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What’s shaping up as tension points between Harris and the left
Politico (archive.ph)
By Politico Staff
2024-08-05 09:00:00GMT
Politico (archive.ph)
By Politico Staff
2024-08-05 09:00:00GMT
The Democratic presidential candidate is already encountering demands and disappointment over issues progressives want her to push even harder than Biden.
Vice President Kamala Harris has broken with the demands of some coalitions on the left with her stances on climate and abortion policy. | Jamie Kelter Davis for POLITICO
Vice President Kamala Harris is already starting to break with the party’s left flank.
Harris has been able to keep a low profile on many issues that cleave Democrats. But in the short period it took for her to lock down the party’s presidential nomination, she has already staked out positions on a pair of key issues — climate and abortion policy — that buck progressives who hoped she would go further than President Joe Biden.
Harris is also facing pressure from the left to maintain — or surpass — Biden’s regulatory offensive on “corporate greed” and antitrust policies while business groups and moderate Democrats want a friendlier approach across economic issues, including cryptocurrency.
It’s a friction Democrats are eager to avoid airing in public after weeks of infighting over Biden’s fate and almost certainly part of the calculus in picking a No. 2 in the next few days.
These early tensions with the left highlight the policy tug-of-war Harris is being thrust into. Her approach may determine how much sway progressives have after largely being empowered to shape Biden’s economic agenda.
But armed with an avalanche of campaign cash, high popularity among Democrats and backing from the left’s biggest brands, Harris’ ability to take a moderate approach on some issues illustrates how quickly she’s consolidating support as the party’s new boss.
A Harris campaign spokesperson said in a statement that the vice president “believes real leadership means bringing all sides together to build consensus.”
“It is that approach that made it possible for the Biden-Harris administration to achieve bipartisan breakthroughs on everything from infrastructure to gun violence prevention,” the spokesperson said. “As President, she will take that same pragmatic approach, focusing on common-sense solutions for the sake of progress.”
These are the wedge issues already emerging between Harris and the left:
Abortion
Harris is calling for restoring Roe. v. Wade, the same position Biden took during his campaign, but one that falls short of what many abortion-rights activists had hoped for.
While most abortion-rights groups support Harris’ candidacy, some within the movement are frustrated because the status quo under Roe protected abortion only until the fetus is viable, around 22 weeks of pregnancy.
Mini Timmaraju, president and CEO of Reproductive Freedom for All, an enthusiastic supporter of Harris, said the vice president’s position shows that “we have more to do as a movement.”
“Our job, ultimately, as advocates, is to do two things: push for the most expansive and progressive legislation we can get — and in an ideal world that does go beyond Roe — but also elect a Congress that will send her the most expansive version of legislation to codify a federal right to abortion,” she said.
While most abortion-rights groups support Harris’ candidacy, some within the movement are frustrated because the status quo under Roe protected abortion only until the fetus is viable. | Mark Schiefelbein/AP
Other abortion-rights activists called Harris’ campaign position “unacceptable,” arguing that Roe’s protections harmed patients by allowing states to ban abortion later in pregnancy and impose restrictions such as mandatory waiting periods and clinic regulations that led many to shut down over the past few decades.
“It’s absolutely critical that we not look at Roe as something worthy of returning to, but something we should move away from and do way better,” said Pamela Merritt, executive director of Medical Students for Choice.
Merritt’s group along with several others, including the National Institute for Reproductive Health, are endorsing a set of policies they’re calling Abortion Justice Now, which would enact sweeping federal protections for the procedure.
“We have spent 49 years in a defensive posture protecting Roe,” Merritt said. “But it is simply not the framework we need in 2024.”
— Alice Miranda Ollstein
Climate
Harris’ campaign recently said she would not ban fracking, reversing her position from when she was campaigning for the White House in 2019.
Still, environmental groups say they are giving her space to breathe on an issue that has evolved from five years ago. Fracking, a fossil fuel extraction technique that has helped the U.S. reach record oil and natural gas output, is seen as a key issue in battleground Pennsylvania, where it supports many jobs.
The politics of such a ban changed after Republicans used the high gasoline prices coming out of the post-pandemic economic turnaround and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as a cudgel to hit Democrats. There’s also the realization that ending fracking would take not just executive branch actions but also involve congressional lawmaking.
Climate activists are still expecting Harris to take steps to steadily — but irretrievably — cut fossil fuel production, a key driver for America’s economic strength that is also a major contributor to climate change.
“We can’t ban fossil fuels, but we can do a managed decline while we ramp up clean energy,” said Jane Kleeb, progressive chair of the Nebraska Democratic Party who helped spearhead the opposition to the Keystone XL oil pipeline. “That’s where we all see Vice President Harris’ approach.”
For now, green groups are trying to be patient with Harris’ climate policies, even those that strongly criticized Biden for not going far enough in shutting down domestic oil production and for approving massive oil projects in Alaska. With Harris as their best hope for continuing a strong climate agenda, those groups are now praising Biden’s record of clean energy investments as a way to boost the vice president’s popularity among progressives.
“On this issue, the Biden-Harris administration has put in place strong rules to reduce methane emissions from oil and gas operations,” NRDC Action Fund senior adviser Alexandra Adams said. “Those rules must be implemented and enforced, not repealed as Trump has vowed.”
— Ben Lefebvre
Crypto
Harris is being thrust to the center of a tug-of-war over the party’s approach to the cryptocurrency industry.
Competing factions of Democrats are pushing Harris to adopt their position on crypto policy — an issue that’s taken on outsize political importance because of the industry’s massive spending on this year’s elections.
Pro-crypto Democrats are lobbying Harris to start taking a friendlier approach to digital asset firms, which have faced tough enforcement actions from Biden’s regulators. They say the party should embrace the technology’s potential and not cede the issue to former President Donald Trump, who is courting crypto enthusiasts and attracting campaign cash from several top industry leaders.
The push risks alienating prominent progressives like Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts who have argued that crypto poses major risks to consumers, the financial system and the fight against money laundering. A softer approach would also be a break from Biden.
“If she listens on the issue of enforcing our income tax laws, our sanctions laws, our human trafficking laws, she’ll continue to reach the same conclusion that the Biden-Harris administration has made,” said Rep. Brad Sherman, a fellow California Democrat who is urging Harris to maintain the tougher status quo.
Harris hasn’t taken a position on digital asset policy, but her camp has had contact with crypto representatives in recent weeks, according to three people with direct knowledge. Top White House officials are expected to participate in a virtual roundtable discussion with crypto executives this week.
“It’s important to use this opportunity to reset relations with the broader community and the industry,” said Democratic Rep. Wiley Nickel of North Carolina, who is among the pro-crypto Democrats working to set up the roundtable.
— Jasper Goodman and Eleanor Mueller
Corporate power
Over the last several years, an aggressive antitrust posture emerged as a major part of the White House’s economic policy. Biden signed a wide-ranging 2021 executive order directing agencies across government to prioritize competition and made key appointments in Lina Khan to head the Federal Trade Commission and Jonathan Kanter as Justice Department antitrust head.
Largely absent from that work, however, was Harris. The vice president was not involved in much of the administration’s economic policy, including antitrust and competition. And when there’s a void, people tend to project their own wishes. That led to several major democratic donors including venture capital investor and Microsoft board member Reid Hoffman saying they hope a Harris administration can be a reset with the business community and calling for her to sideline Khan at the FTC. (The president can’t fire a FTC commissioner for political reasons, but they can pick a new chair.)
The blowback was predictable, with progressives calling on Harris to return the money and publicly back Khan. So far that hasn’t happened. Government officials pushing for aggressive antitrust enforcement say they have seen nothing to indicate Harris is changing course, but they are hoping for more clarity soon.
At a rally in Atlanta, Harris specifically called out corporate greed and junk fees, a recurring theme for the White House. | John Bazemore/AP
There are some signals. As California’s attorney general for six years, Harris led one of the most active groups of state prosecutors focused on antitrust enforcement. Kathleen Foote was part of that effort for more than three decades under seven different attorneys general. “[Harris] was a strong supporter of Antitrust Section initiatives, as well as its collaborations with the DOJ,” Foote wrote months before the last-minute pivot to Harris. “She was deeply interested in the Section’s strategic thinking about how to advance certain areas of law. And despite budget issues, she managed to achieve a modest increase in the Section’s staffing.”
And Harris’ economic policy adviser since last November has been Carolina Ferrerosa Young, who previously spent two and a half years in the same role for the populist progressive lawmaker Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio).
At a July rally in Atlanta, Harris specifically called out corporate greed and junk fees, a recurring theme for the White House. “On day one, I will take on price gouging and bring down costs,” Harris said at the rally. “We will ban more of those hidden fees and surprise late charges that banks and other companies use to pad their profits.”
— Josh Sisco
Israel-Gaza
When it comes to Israel’s war in Gaza, the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is cautiously optimistic about Harris.
While it is still unclear to what extent Harris might break with Biden’s approach to Israel, some of the biggest critics of Israel within the Democratic Party are hoping that Harris will adopt a more progressive policy toward the Middle East.
Several people who have advocated for the Democratic Party to adopt a less tolerant approach toward Israel said they were encouraged by Harris’ remarks following her meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in late July.
“What has happened in Gaza over the past nine months is devastating,” Harris said. “We cannot look away in the face of these tragedies. We cannot allow ourselves to become numb to the suffering. And I will not be silent.”
Trita Parsi, an executive vice president at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, said that Harris’ comments “showed the type of fundamental empathy that is necessary for her to be able to approach this differently.”
“But it isn’t obviously enough for a lot of the folks that have been quite disillusioned with the Biden administration,” Parsi added. “Ultimately, it comes down to policy changes.”
Biden has weathered a lot of backlash in recent months over its policy to Israel’s war in Gaza, with critics claiming that his administration has not done enough to improve the humanitarian crisis unfolding there.
Hala Rharrit, who resigned from the State Department over Biden’s Gaza policy, said that Harris must do more to gain her support.
“Harris needs to take action now on Gaza to win my vote and the vote of countless other patriotic Americans who are unwilling to vote for a candidate that puts donors and the interests of an extremist foreign government over the interests of the American people,” Rharrit said.
Parsi pointed to the campaign during the Democratic primary earlier this year, where people voted “uncommitted” to protest Biden’s handling of the war in Gaza.
“They were not uncommitted because of Biden’s personality, they were uncommitted because of the policy Biden pursued,” he said. “If Harris’ policy remains the same but with a different rhetoric, that’s not going to be enough to make them committed.”
— Miles J. Herszenhorn and Matt Berg
Vice President Kamala Harris has broken with the demands of some coalitions on the left with her stances on climate and abortion policy. | Jamie Kelter Davis for POLITICO
Vice President Kamala Harris is already starting to break with the party’s left flank.
Harris has been able to keep a low profile on many issues that cleave Democrats. But in the short period it took for her to lock down the party’s presidential nomination, she has already staked out positions on a pair of key issues — climate and abortion policy — that buck progressives who hoped she would go further than President Joe Biden.
Harris is also facing pressure from the left to maintain — or surpass — Biden’s regulatory offensive on “corporate greed” and antitrust policies while business groups and moderate Democrats want a friendlier approach across economic issues, including cryptocurrency.
It’s a friction Democrats are eager to avoid airing in public after weeks of infighting over Biden’s fate and almost certainly part of the calculus in picking a No. 2 in the next few days.
These early tensions with the left highlight the policy tug-of-war Harris is being thrust into. Her approach may determine how much sway progressives have after largely being empowered to shape Biden’s economic agenda.
But armed with an avalanche of campaign cash, high popularity among Democrats and backing from the left’s biggest brands, Harris’ ability to take a moderate approach on some issues illustrates how quickly she’s consolidating support as the party’s new boss.
A Harris campaign spokesperson said in a statement that the vice president “believes real leadership means bringing all sides together to build consensus.”
“It is that approach that made it possible for the Biden-Harris administration to achieve bipartisan breakthroughs on everything from infrastructure to gun violence prevention,” the spokesperson said. “As President, she will take that same pragmatic approach, focusing on common-sense solutions for the sake of progress.”
These are the wedge issues already emerging between Harris and the left:
Abortion
Harris is calling for restoring Roe. v. Wade, the same position Biden took during his campaign, but one that falls short of what many abortion-rights activists had hoped for.
While most abortion-rights groups support Harris’ candidacy, some within the movement are frustrated because the status quo under Roe protected abortion only until the fetus is viable, around 22 weeks of pregnancy.
Mini Timmaraju, president and CEO of Reproductive Freedom for All, an enthusiastic supporter of Harris, said the vice president’s position shows that “we have more to do as a movement.”
“Our job, ultimately, as advocates, is to do two things: push for the most expansive and progressive legislation we can get — and in an ideal world that does go beyond Roe — but also elect a Congress that will send her the most expansive version of legislation to codify a federal right to abortion,” she said.
While most abortion-rights groups support Harris’ candidacy, some within the movement are frustrated because the status quo under Roe protected abortion only until the fetus is viable. | Mark Schiefelbein/AP
Other abortion-rights activists called Harris’ campaign position “unacceptable,” arguing that Roe’s protections harmed patients by allowing states to ban abortion later in pregnancy and impose restrictions such as mandatory waiting periods and clinic regulations that led many to shut down over the past few decades.
“It’s absolutely critical that we not look at Roe as something worthy of returning to, but something we should move away from and do way better,” said Pamela Merritt, executive director of Medical Students for Choice.
Merritt’s group along with several others, including the National Institute for Reproductive Health, are endorsing a set of policies they’re calling Abortion Justice Now, which would enact sweeping federal protections for the procedure.
“We have spent 49 years in a defensive posture protecting Roe,” Merritt said. “But it is simply not the framework we need in 2024.”
— Alice Miranda Ollstein
Climate
Harris’ campaign recently said she would not ban fracking, reversing her position from when she was campaigning for the White House in 2019.
Still, environmental groups say they are giving her space to breathe on an issue that has evolved from five years ago. Fracking, a fossil fuel extraction technique that has helped the U.S. reach record oil and natural gas output, is seen as a key issue in battleground Pennsylvania, where it supports many jobs.
The politics of such a ban changed after Republicans used the high gasoline prices coming out of the post-pandemic economic turnaround and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as a cudgel to hit Democrats. There’s also the realization that ending fracking would take not just executive branch actions but also involve congressional lawmaking.
Climate activists are still expecting Harris to take steps to steadily — but irretrievably — cut fossil fuel production, a key driver for America’s economic strength that is also a major contributor to climate change.
“We can’t ban fossil fuels, but we can do a managed decline while we ramp up clean energy,” said Jane Kleeb, progressive chair of the Nebraska Democratic Party who helped spearhead the opposition to the Keystone XL oil pipeline. “That’s where we all see Vice President Harris’ approach.”
For now, green groups are trying to be patient with Harris’ climate policies, even those that strongly criticized Biden for not going far enough in shutting down domestic oil production and for approving massive oil projects in Alaska. With Harris as their best hope for continuing a strong climate agenda, those groups are now praising Biden’s record of clean energy investments as a way to boost the vice president’s popularity among progressives.
“On this issue, the Biden-Harris administration has put in place strong rules to reduce methane emissions from oil and gas operations,” NRDC Action Fund senior adviser Alexandra Adams said. “Those rules must be implemented and enforced, not repealed as Trump has vowed.”
— Ben Lefebvre
Crypto
Harris is being thrust to the center of a tug-of-war over the party’s approach to the cryptocurrency industry.
Competing factions of Democrats are pushing Harris to adopt their position on crypto policy — an issue that’s taken on outsize political importance because of the industry’s massive spending on this year’s elections.
Pro-crypto Democrats are lobbying Harris to start taking a friendlier approach to digital asset firms, which have faced tough enforcement actions from Biden’s regulators. They say the party should embrace the technology’s potential and not cede the issue to former President Donald Trump, who is courting crypto enthusiasts and attracting campaign cash from several top industry leaders.
The push risks alienating prominent progressives like Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts who have argued that crypto poses major risks to consumers, the financial system and the fight against money laundering. A softer approach would also be a break from Biden.
“If she listens on the issue of enforcing our income tax laws, our sanctions laws, our human trafficking laws, she’ll continue to reach the same conclusion that the Biden-Harris administration has made,” said Rep. Brad Sherman, a fellow California Democrat who is urging Harris to maintain the tougher status quo.
Harris hasn’t taken a position on digital asset policy, but her camp has had contact with crypto representatives in recent weeks, according to three people with direct knowledge. Top White House officials are expected to participate in a virtual roundtable discussion with crypto executives this week.
“It’s important to use this opportunity to reset relations with the broader community and the industry,” said Democratic Rep. Wiley Nickel of North Carolina, who is among the pro-crypto Democrats working to set up the roundtable.
— Jasper Goodman and Eleanor Mueller
Corporate power
Over the last several years, an aggressive antitrust posture emerged as a major part of the White House’s economic policy. Biden signed a wide-ranging 2021 executive order directing agencies across government to prioritize competition and made key appointments in Lina Khan to head the Federal Trade Commission and Jonathan Kanter as Justice Department antitrust head.
Largely absent from that work, however, was Harris. The vice president was not involved in much of the administration’s economic policy, including antitrust and competition. And when there’s a void, people tend to project their own wishes. That led to several major democratic donors including venture capital investor and Microsoft board member Reid Hoffman saying they hope a Harris administration can be a reset with the business community and calling for her to sideline Khan at the FTC. (The president can’t fire a FTC commissioner for political reasons, but they can pick a new chair.)
The blowback was predictable, with progressives calling on Harris to return the money and publicly back Khan. So far that hasn’t happened. Government officials pushing for aggressive antitrust enforcement say they have seen nothing to indicate Harris is changing course, but they are hoping for more clarity soon.
At a rally in Atlanta, Harris specifically called out corporate greed and junk fees, a recurring theme for the White House. | John Bazemore/AP
There are some signals. As California’s attorney general for six years, Harris led one of the most active groups of state prosecutors focused on antitrust enforcement. Kathleen Foote was part of that effort for more than three decades under seven different attorneys general. “[Harris] was a strong supporter of Antitrust Section initiatives, as well as its collaborations with the DOJ,” Foote wrote months before the last-minute pivot to Harris. “She was deeply interested in the Section’s strategic thinking about how to advance certain areas of law. And despite budget issues, she managed to achieve a modest increase in the Section’s staffing.”
And Harris’ economic policy adviser since last November has been Carolina Ferrerosa Young, who previously spent two and a half years in the same role for the populist progressive lawmaker Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio).
At a July rally in Atlanta, Harris specifically called out corporate greed and junk fees, a recurring theme for the White House. “On day one, I will take on price gouging and bring down costs,” Harris said at the rally. “We will ban more of those hidden fees and surprise late charges that banks and other companies use to pad their profits.”
— Josh Sisco
Israel-Gaza
When it comes to Israel’s war in Gaza, the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is cautiously optimistic about Harris.
While it is still unclear to what extent Harris might break with Biden’s approach to Israel, some of the biggest critics of Israel within the Democratic Party are hoping that Harris will adopt a more progressive policy toward the Middle East.
Several people who have advocated for the Democratic Party to adopt a less tolerant approach toward Israel said they were encouraged by Harris’ remarks following her meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in late July.
“What has happened in Gaza over the past nine months is devastating,” Harris said. “We cannot look away in the face of these tragedies. We cannot allow ourselves to become numb to the suffering. And I will not be silent.”
Trita Parsi, an executive vice president at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, said that Harris’ comments “showed the type of fundamental empathy that is necessary for her to be able to approach this differently.”
“But it isn’t obviously enough for a lot of the folks that have been quite disillusioned with the Biden administration,” Parsi added. “Ultimately, it comes down to policy changes.”
Biden has weathered a lot of backlash in recent months over its policy to Israel’s war in Gaza, with critics claiming that his administration has not done enough to improve the humanitarian crisis unfolding there.
Hala Rharrit, who resigned from the State Department over Biden’s Gaza policy, said that Harris must do more to gain her support.
“Harris needs to take action now on Gaza to win my vote and the vote of countless other patriotic Americans who are unwilling to vote for a candidate that puts donors and the interests of an extremist foreign government over the interests of the American people,” Rharrit said.
Parsi pointed to the campaign during the Democratic primary earlier this year, where people voted “uncommitted” to protest Biden’s handling of the war in Gaza.
“They were not uncommitted because of Biden’s personality, they were uncommitted because of the policy Biden pursued,” he said. “If Harris’ policy remains the same but with a different rhetoric, that’s not going to be enough to make them committed.”
— Miles J. Herszenhorn and Matt Berg
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Trying to find the cache or archive of this, it was posted then deleted:
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They need a war Trump would fall for.
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1. We did it in the 1950s and 60s, and it resulted in massive concentrations of crime
2. Niggers and addicts trashed it, making the programs cost far, far more than projected
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Pretty sure the destruction of those places has more to do with the fact that they closed down the factories, shipped all the manufacturing overseas, which robbed a lot of these working class black and white people of unskilled labour. Few opportunities for these people to learn to do something different so they instead turned to drugs and crime and that's how those cities became shit.
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Tim Kaine?
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Now explain why US blacks are dysfunctional in exactly the same ways and ratios that the African population is.
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Criminal aliens make up nearly 10% of the US total population. Imagine if 10% of all the housing opened up at once. There would be an inverse housing crisis.
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The destruction of those cities happened from about 1968-1975. The loss of American manufacturing overseas happened in the 1990s.
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Are we sure RFK Jr. hasn’t killed anyone?
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...but if those are her favorite albums..why does she not already have them?
What a pathetic stunt.
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They were patient zero for what was intended for the rest of us, believe it or not.
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