Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

On the other however, as long as it is around the Russians will continue to pour resources they can ill afford into maintaining it for stupid fucking reasons, and that's resources they're not pouring into shit that would actually be useful (not just in Ukraine, but in general).
I've heard a similar argument about the Kerch bridge (connecting Crimea to Russia). Russia is expending huge resources defending it. Ukraine occasionally puts out announcements that it's going to be blown up real soon. This spooks Russia and they redouble their defense, and the bridge becomes ever more of a black hole consuming their capabilities.

If Ukraine ever does succeed in knocking it out, yeah it'll hurt Russia's logistics, but it will also free up a chunk of their defense budget.
 
If Ukraine ever does succeed in knocking it out, yeah it'll hurt Russia's logistics, but it will also free up a chunk of their defense budget.

And that chunk and more would be immediately consumed by working out some alternative and probably riskier way to supply Crimea, wouldn't it? They wouldn't just give up on that clay.

Easier said than done to destroy a big hunk of concrete that's surely behind Russia's most competent air and sea defenses (or what's left of them), but I'm sure it's still a priority.

If finances were a concern, Moscow should have given up on this adventure long ago.
 
New satellite footage (and on the ground photo) of Morozovsk airfield's complete ACK.
  • Su-34 destroyed.
  • Two Su-34s likely damaged by debris.
  • Ammunition depot completely destroyed.
  • Four technical buildings and two hangars at the airbase damaged/destroyed.
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Me too. Apparently this guy was just some Commie who got purged twice by Stalin and Zhukov, he's not symbolic like the Moskva in that sense.

Kuznetsov was similar to Zhukov when it came to competency, in some ways he was more competent than Zhukov. He believed war with the Nazis was inevitable and during the initial hours of Barbarossa his command readiness saved the Soviet Baltic Fleet from annihilation while the Red Army was ordered to stand down, but both men were very stubborn which inevitably led to Zhukov fucking over Kuznetsov when Zhukov became Defense Minister.

I've heard a similar argument about the Kerch bridge (connecting Crimea to Russia). Russia is expending huge resources defending it. Ukraine occasionally puts out announcements that it's going to be blown up real soon. This spooks Russia and they redouble their defense, and the bridge becomes ever more of a black hole consuming their capabilities.

If Ukraine ever does succeed in knocking it out, yeah it'll hurt Russia's logistics, but it will also free up a chunk of their defense budget.

I'd love to see the bridge fall for the optics and the absolute shitstorm of seething from vatniggers, maybe they'll spam those old photos of the dead Abrams from 86 different angles again.

And that chunk and more would be immediately consumed by working out some alternative and probably riskier way to supply Crimea, wouldn't it? They wouldn't just give up on that clay.

Easier said than done to destroy a big hunk of concrete that's surely behind Russia's most competent air and sea defenses (or what's left of them), but I'm sure it's still a priority.

If finances were a concern, Moscow should have given up on this adventure long ago.

If they ever do knock the bridge out it would force Russia to expend naval resources to get supplies to their forces on Crimea, those Russian ships will be vulnerable to the Ukrainian drone ships. It just intensifies the overall level of attrition against their war effort. I suppose they could try to airdrop supplies to Crimea, but Ukraine may have air defense close enough to make that a big challenge too.
 
M2 Bradley combat vehicles continue to operate despite receiving over 20 hits from Russian drones

What? That's impossible. I saw a bunch of posts in another thread assuring me the Bradley wasn't designed to fight in eastern europe, only in deserts and that it was total garbage, so heavy it would be vastly inferior to event he BMP1, its a NAFO lie that they are being anything other than a death trap and easy target for the most advanced and supreme production MBT in the world, the T-14 T-90M T-80BU T-62M!

New satellite footage (and on the ground photo) of Morozovsk airfield's complete ACK.
  • Su-34 destroyed.
  • Two Su-34s likely damaged by debris.
This is about 3% of Russia's (remaining. kek) Su-34 fleet in one go.
 
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MOSCOW, August 5. /TASS/. The F-16 fighter jets that arrived in Ukraine recently will eventually be destroyed as they can’t compete with the Russian Su-35S, the Russian industrial conglomerate Rostec said.


"If you look at the specifications of the US-made aircraft, the conclusion is unambiguous: It is not a rival to the Su-35S, much less the Su-57. In a head-on air combat, our jets are superior to the US fighter jets. The F-16 is not the newest jet, but this is no reason to rejoice and relax. The jet can carry advanced missile systems and can cause a lot of problems. Nevertheless, they, as the rest of Western equipment, will face the same end: destruction," the state-owned corporation said.

Well Western pigdogs are you ready to watch your latest NATO wunderwaffen get BTO by superior soviet engineering?
 

Yeah that's not what you should be doing with that armor system I don't get it it with eastern Europeans when they put explosive reactive armor on absolutely everything

also people keep saying that Russia is using 1960s and 70s and 80s they're not the SU-25 is from the 2000s the Russian version of the S 300 currently in stock is a modernized version and the S 400 is from the 2000s as well
they mean Russian anti tank missile that can take out the M1 Abrams is from the 1980s

the javelin is also a 1990s weapon as well as most of the US equipment we are sending them

a handful of F16 fives is not going to change the course of the war

if America was serious about winning the war they'd send them well over 100
as well as 300M1 aprons and a bunch of bradleys probably about 100

Ukraine is losing the war simply due to the fact of overwhelming Russian numbers you're not winning a war when you're trying to ban people off the streets in construction gangs

but no one was ever willing to deal with this problem in 2014 or hell even when it started America could have solved it with gunboat diplomacy but everyone is too much have a limp noodle to actually deal with crisis these days and will send strongly worded letters
 
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The main tactic, as we've seen in videos, is to just drone the ammo storage and mission kill the tank for a day or two. Which is a very interesting Denial-of-service strategy and I'm curious to see how the yooks solve it,
I don't even know why I asked this question when the answer was this obvious.


Well Western pigdogs are you ready to watch your latest NATO wunderwaffen get BTO by superior soviet engineering?
We haven't seen any Su-57s in combat because they are stealth; duh
 
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Gotta say I'm suprised the T-72s aren't going faster than the T-62s.

Ukrainian F-16s photographed with MAWS pylons along with AIM-9M and AIM-120B.
Clearly fake, can't be Ukrainian. There is no ERA bolted to it.
 
Ukrainian troops apparently staged an incursion into Kursk oblast on the Russian side of the undisputed border - not Russian anti-Putin militias but actual UA troops. I saw one Telegram post claiming they even took a couple prisoners but it's early enough that I wouldn't fully trust any news or social media posts about anything yet. Hopefully the more cautious NATO members (and I'm definitely including the US in that) aren't going to get too pissy about this little stunt if true.

 
Yeah that's not what you should be doing with that armor system I don't get it it with eastern Europeans when they put explosive reactive armor on absolutely everything

also people keep saying that Russia is using 1960s and 70s and 80s they're not the SU-25 is from the 2000s the Russian version of the S 300 currently in stock is a modernized version and the S 400 is from the 2000s as well
they mean Russian anti tank missile that can take out the M1 Abrams is from the 1980s

the javelin is also a 1990s weapon as well as most of the US equipment we are sending them

a handful of F16 fives is not going to change the course of the war

if America was serious about winning the war they'd send them well over 100
as well as 300M1 aprons and a bunch of bradleys probably about 100

Ukraine is losing the war simply due to the fact of overwhelming Russian numbers you're not winning a war when you're trying to ban people off the streets in construction gangs

but no one was ever willing to deal with this problem in 2014 or hell even when it started America could have solved it with gunboat diplomacy but everyone is too much have a limp noodle to actually deal with crisis these days and will send strongly worded letters
There is a delicious level of irony in that all you've done here is highlight how fucked Russia's shit has been for decades when their "new from the 2000s" technology is getting BTFO'd by old-ass western equipment from the 1990s. And why are they using 2000's era technology instead of, y'know, those T-14s? Wouldn't it have been the perfect demonstration of the tank's combat effectiveness in, y'know, actual combat against M1 Abrams?

And where the fuck are these 'overwhelming Russian numbers' when Russia never made it past that infamous 40 mile convoy to nowhere? Wagner literally won that hard fought battle and then turned and marched right back to Russia before whatshisname decided to pussy out and to nobody's surprise got bombed out of the sky weeks later. Armies that are winning don't have entire fighting groups all turn mutiny after winning a battle.

Russia's anti-air is absolutely shit with all these drones coming in and firebombing the oil refineries.

Hell, Russia has to buy ammo from fucking North Korea, which considering this war started with Russia's own missiles literally turning around mid-flight and returning themselves to sender, I cannot imagine the non-existent quality control of Nork supplies they're shitting out to meet arbitrary quotas. And then weren't African and Indian "mercenaries" getting involved, too, as bullet sponges?

Seems to me like Russia is just trying to throw everything it can at Ukraine and it's getting nowhere fast. The recent Kursk thing itself feels like something akin to the Doolittle Raid - ultimately inconsequential in terms of damage but the fact it even happened is going to shake things up internally.
 
Russia's anti-air is absolutely shit with all these drones coming in and firebombing the oil refineries.
Can't forget S-300 and Buk getting taken out by cruise missiles they were supposedly intended to destroy.

On the other hand, Patriot has proven itself and then some, taking out just about everything the Russians throw at it. Near as I can tell the only complaint the Ukrainians have about Patriot is that there just isn't enough of them.
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Well, I suppose even with all of Japan's infamous problems with their policing services they're better than Ukraine. God knows the Ukrainian cops will probably be asking for interrogation pointers.

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But, but... I thought the BMP had the firepower to take one on no problem! I thought the Bradley was overheavy and a slow target! Were the Russian fanboys lying to me?
 
But, but... I thought the BMP had the firepower to take one on no problem! I thought the Bradley was overheavy and a slow target! Were the Russian fanboys lying to me?

It's almost like the horseshit the Reformers spread about the Bradley was just that - horseshit - and it's actually a good vehicle.

Aw who am I kidding; if there's any of that lot of mentally addled wargamers still around I'm sure they'd smugly proclaim that it was their "warnings" about the Bradley (see the groundbreaking documentary The Pentagon Wars) that ensured it'd be re-engineered and made into a decent vehicle.
 
Yea, Chechens are retreating north after the border troops pretty much just ran.
A Russian counter attack was also defeated.
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Well, what's Putin going to announce now that his special military operation has turned into his own soil being counter-invaded?
It's almost like the horseshit the Reformers spread about the Bradley was just that - horseshit - and it's actually a good vehicle.

Aw who am I kidding; if there's any of that lot of mentally addled wargamers still around I'm sure they'd smugly proclaim that it was their "warnings" about the Bradley (see the groundbreaking documentary The Pentagon Wars) that ensured it'd be re-engineered and made into a decent vehicle.
If you're unfamiliar with the Sgt. York and its constant issues, go look into it. Now that's a vehicle that deserved the Pentagon Wars treatment. One time for a test the electronics malfunctioned because it had just been washed down, leading to a very sardonic comment from an observer wondering if it ever rained in Europe.
 
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