General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

Randon played some of these a while back, they're as awful as you'd expect
Even the AI knows that Pippa hates us.
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I think my perspective will depend on what Yagoo means by wanting to emulate Disney?

I know why he wants to do that because Japanese people have always worshiped The mouse House to the point that Mickey and Betty boop are the reason anime characters exist in the first place ( it's why they have those big eyes)

It's a loaded question that can mean a lot of things depending on who you talk to and is already something that not even the company themselves can emulate
 
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Which if that's the case, it circles back to A) If she's staff, she seemingly did nothing, and B) why did she say absolutely nothing publicly?
Didn't Kirsche have someone sending her inside logs and whatnot? Nyaru might be that person. We don't have much to go on suspecting ill or not. I doubt Kirsche herself would want someone to meaninglessly torpedo their own position to make a fuss for her unless they really wanted to themselves.
 
In lighter news, Highping Monaca is applying to Vshojo.

7k followers? Hmmm Unless she knows some people there I think she's gonna get the VShojo experience everyone else gets.
Stay safe Froot
She's probably getting a train run on her by them to be honest. Willingly mind you.

I think unfortunately, this just is a bad look even after looking at everything.

Her saying that it's because of a "change in direction with the company" just plants a lot of poisonous seeds that will only grow as time goes on.
I think more of the Old guard is going to follow her
If they lose Pekora, Marine, Or Korone. I'd say the end times are at hand.
Until I see one of those 3 step down though. I'll remain skeptical.

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anyone see this picture of panko before? posted with no validation on /pcg/
Its really feels like 99% of vtubers are all asians or happas. I don't know exactly why that is. Maybe its anime shit IDK.
But where the white people at?
 
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With Suisei's recent twitter space, there's an almost certainty that someone else will follow Aqua in graduating. My bet is it's one of the other old guard, before someone big like Suisei doing it also
And Cover would have no one else to boame but themselves
Was there anything notable said there? i havent seen anyone besides here post about it like that


EDIT: The only summuary i could find was a reddit one where she pretty much just stated that current Holo has more restrictions and considerations before getting the OK for content
Discord summary of Suisei’s Twitter space
Suisei: The direction that the company takes doesn't have anything to do with me. I do what I want in the way I want. Their direction doesn't matter. I changed the greeting at my discretion.

Looking at the news, she was like it's not that big of news. Also, it's not like she's quitting being a VTuber. Finally, she asks us to please believe in the direction Aqua is going.

I hate saying "It can't be helped." But...it can't be helped. If you are told, "Difference in direction," what can you even do?

Suisei: Well, the company's growth is good. Because the company grew, we can do things like have that expo in Makuhari every year. But they are solidifying the rules, and it's harder to do things outside the box. And if you try to do something new, they will first take time to research and try to protect you and make rules before you can do it.

Before, I would lightly say, I'd like to try this, and before they'd be like, "That's interesting. Try it, let's see what happens." Now, they're like either "Well, that's against the rules" or, "There's no rules for this. We need to discuss this. Can we get back to you on it?" And sometimes Suisei is like "Goddamn this is taking forever." But it's all to protect you from messing up.

Suisei: doesn't want us to take this as her complaining or criticizing the management.

Suisei: is still considering. The company for the talents, or the talents for the company? She's not sure that it's good that a company just bends over for every single thing a talent wants to do. But to stifle talents, well, VTubing is an industry where you need the talents.
 
I really don’t understand Nip business practices.

Aqua currently has over 2 million subs. What percent of their entire talent has that many? She is still very popular and is still a money printer with merch, sponsorships, etc.

I don’t see how it’s smart business to just let an IP and character they have built up just walk. I wonder what percent of the OG talents are also tired of the idol grind bullshit. If most seemingly don’t mind the grind and idol bullshit, then there shouldn’t be complaints of unfair treatment, but even if there was you’d still tell them to fuck off because she’s a veteran who has earned the right to work as they please (seemingly like Gura has).
The whole idol grind narrative doesn't make sense, when you consider that Aqua actually enjoyed the idol aspect of Holo.
She was one of the first members to get any sololives before the restrictions (She got 3 if you count the Nissin one). And she regularly made covers and original songs. She also regularly streamed karaokes too.
In Miko's own words, she was one of the most idol like Holos
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Anyone who regularly watched her could confirm that.

Most likely, she just got fed up with trying to get permissions from management for streaming games and other related projects. Seems like the most likely thing according to what Suisei said
 
off topic, sort of,

but i found this crazy hime schizoid on twitter.

hundreds of mf tweets of this guy just talking to a fucking wall, holy shit
one chain with 200 something total tweets with some other person goading his schizo ass on.
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bit of a nothing burger compared to the aqua shit but threads moving slow anyway

how do i archive entire accounts on x
 
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Taigaholic's currently losing his shit over the whole deplatforming situation, how almost nobody outside his community seems to care about it, and how Nux Taku never made a proper apology.
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https://x.com/toraxholic/status/1821027870271001084 (Archive)
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https://x.com/toraxholic/status/1821031242042675429 (Archive)
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https://x.com/toraxholic/status/1821037431950348664 (Archive)
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https://x.com/toraxholic/status/1821038174480609735 (Archive)
He also changed his PFP, and this was his new username for about 5-10 minutes.
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https://x.com/toraxholic/status/1821051137794974155 (Archive)
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https://x.com/toraxholic/status/1821057134097813984 (Archive)
He's also seemingly threatening suicide in his Discord.
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https://x.com/Clustifle/status/1821013840148230235 (Archive)
 
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The popular speculation from the JP side of things, which is even trending on JP twitter now because of how regularly JP fans are mentioning it, has nothing to do with any thoughts on China (I'll be real the fixation and rratposting on that topic is a mostly western thing by a wide margin) Is that the disagreement from Aqua is more related to her not wanting as much pressure on the "Idol route" side of holo and instead wanting to just stream as a gaming streamer who happens to sing sometimes like was the case for holo when she first joined (Hololive didn't start going hard on the idol side of things until partway through it's existance) Hololive as a company is a very different animal than it was at the time someone like Aqua first joined, so something like that wouldn't be that surprising to me, and everything about this graduation seems to be amicable even with whatever disagreement is going on.
This wouldn't surprise me. I know HoloMyth have been streaming a lot less the last year or two compared to when they first debuted and have been talking about being tired a lot due to their schedules and while that might be self imposed for a workaholic music creature like Calli, I doubt Ame would willingly choose dance practice and concerts over streaming games if given the option.
 
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