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What would the outcome of the harassment restraining order be?

  • A WIN for the Toe against Patrick Melton.

    Votes: 62 15.4%
  • A WIN for the Toe against Nicholas Rekieta.

    Votes: 6 1.5%
  • A MAJOR WIN for the Toe, it's upheld against both of them.

    Votes: 101 25.1%
  • Huge L, felted, cooked etc, it gets thrown out.

    Votes: 72 17.9%
  • A win for the lawyers (and Kiwi Farms) because it gets postponed again.

    Votes: 162 40.2%

  • Total voters
    403
Interestingly that’s actually perfectly legal. I was watching a lehtos law video on YouTube about that subject awhile back. Basically if you make a mark on a piece of paper with the intention of signing it, it’s perfectly valid. Draw a cat if you want to. Though I guess it would make an interesting case if the signature was disputed.
As long as they can prove that you were physically there and agreed to whatever you were signing it's cool.
The X is a time honored tradition.
 
Why do we still use written signatures? If you can draw something as retarded looking as mr moon did and have it still work clearly it doesn't work for non repudiation. Cryptographic signatures have existed for years now..
Maybe there’s a chance in the future where someone can ramp up A.I. generated technology that clones someone’s written name and fake it to make it look like said person in question wrote it.
 
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As long as they can prove that you were physically there and agreed to whatever you were signing it's cool.
The X is a time honored tradition.
I’ve probably signed 100 documents where it would actually be hard to prove I was there and signed it. A lot of stuff doesn’t require a notary** and they might not have security camera footage or something, if the signatures not identifiable I think it’d be somewhat difficult to prove that X is you.

(** also notaries are kinda bullshit too. Everyone I know seems to have someone who will notarize shit without really verifying identities and such)
 
I’ve probably signed 100 documents where it would actually be hard to prove I was there and signed it. A lot of stuff doesn’t require a notary** or they have security camera footage or something, if the signatures not identifiable I think it’d be somewhat difficult to prove that X is you.

(** also notaries are kinda bullshit too. Everyone I know seems to have someone who will notarize shit without really verifying identities and such)
This is exactly what I'm talking about and exactly what cryptographic signatures solve. Really important stuff is probably signed cryptographically already, DocuSign and all that.
There should be a standard for accepting digital sigs on forms, both electronic and paper.
 
If a notary knows you, they don't need to verify your ID.
Right, but I also sold a car to a friend once and he was like "Nah, you don't gotta be there to get it notarized, I have someone who will do it for me", so you can find one who will literally notarize things without the person being present. (Would have never agreed to that if it was a stranger)
 
They're supposed to write it down in the register.
In Ohio at least, there is no requirement for a notary to keep a log for in-person notarizations:

In Ohio, traditional notaries are not required to keep a journal of their notarial transactions, but online notaries are. However, keeping a journal is strongly recommended for all notaries to document transaction details and protect against false claims of misconduct.
 
The witness' ID. It may be state dependent.
The few states I've done it in want all applicable parties present for signing. If it's forged, the notary can often be sued.

That might also be state dependent, but I don't know a single person would notarize a pre-filled document with only the witness attesting to being there when it was signed.

This can be the new tripod discussion!
 
The few states I've done it in want all applicable parties present for signing. If it's forged, the notary can often be sued.

That might also be state dependent, but I don't know a single person would notarize a pre-filled document with only the witness attesting to being there when it was signed.

This can be the new tripod discussion!
There might be some miscommunication. I meant that if a notary knows a signatory present for signing, they can have a witness swear to the identity and use their ID for verification.

I'd never notarize a prefilled form. I ranted about that earlier in the thread.
 
The few states I've done it in want all applicable parties present for signing. If it's forged, the notary can often be sued.

That might also be state dependent, but I don't know a single person would notarize a pre-filled document with only the witness attesting to being there when it was signed.

This can be the new tripod discussion!
An interesting further thought about documents being notarized.... Is that you can buy a Notary Stamp online and literally just fake a notarization. You'll probably get caught eventually but you can probably cause some damage in the meantime.
 
There might be some miscommunication. I meant that if a notary knows a signatory present for signing, they can have a witness swear to the identity and use their ID for verification.

I'd never notarize a prefilled form. I ranted about that earlier in the thread.
That makes much more sense, but I still wouldn't put insurance on the line for that.
 
Do you mean mixing booze with a little bit of energy drinks?
ew... there's monster in my Lagavulin 16.

That signature is the best thing that's happened on the site in a long while.
Dude probably spends hours getting all the paperwork in order, having it notarized, getting it filed, all to provide that information we crave.......

20 pages of his signature getting made fun of.
 
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