UK Race riots put Britain on collision course with Elon Musk - Britain’s government has social platforms in its sights as incitement spreads — and the X owner is squaring up for a fight.

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Race riots put Britain on collision course with Elon Musk
Politico EU (archive.ph)
By Esther Webber and Vincent Manacourt
2024-08-06 07:56:44GMT

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Fake news channels on X helped to disseminate false information about the killing of three children in Southport last week. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

LONDON — Britain’s in the grip of its worst race riots in decades. And Elon Musk just can't help himself.

The billionaire X owner sparked fury in the British government this weekend after he responded to incendiary footage of the far-right disorder that's sweeping the country by saying "civil war is inevitable."

The post on X was roundly condemned by U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer's office, which said there was “no justification” for Musk’s comments.

But Musk doubled down on Monday night. Responding to a statement from Starmer vowing his government would “not tolerate attacks on mosques or on Muslim communities,” the X boss effectively accused the British prime minister of wearing blinkers. “Shouldn’t you be concerned about attacks on all communities?”

Starmer's top interior minister, Yvette Cooper, meanwhile has a litany of complaints over the way social media giants like X are policing incitement and disinformation on their platforms.

“There are some things which are clearly already criminal, where we'll need police intervention and action to pursue those," Cooper told the BBC Monday. "There are other areas where the social media companies do have clear requirements at the moment to remove criminal material, and should be doing so, but sometimes take too long to do so.

"There are other areas where they have made commitments around their terms and conditions that are supposed to be enforced but are not being done so."

Cooper's vowed to take up the issue with tech giants this week.

Yet, despite plenty of hand-wringing over the proliferation of far-right messaging, Britain's toolbox for forcing the hands of social media companies seems limited.

This time, the riots — which have seen mosques attacked and accommodation for asylum seekers targeted — were inextricably linked to online communications. Fake news channels on X helped to disseminate false information about the killing of three children in Southport last week.

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The riots — which have seen mosques attacked and accommodation for asylum seekers targeted — were inextricably linked to online communications. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

Right-wing influencers with huge reach, such as English Defense League founder Tommy Robinson and actor-turned-anti-woke activist Laurence Fox, have punted messages at their thousands of followers on X, Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. (Fox approvingly shared Musk's attack on Starmer Monday night.)

WhatsApp and Telegram have been used to organize gatherings at short notice, while flyers organizing specific protests have been spread on Facebook. TikTok has been abuzz with videos of the violence.

But X in particular has proven a particular hotbed of far-right chatter. Musk's direct intervention aside, the platform has also reinstated Robinson's account. He is currently banned on Instagram and Facebook.

In a statement Monday, Britain’s Tech Secretary Peter Kyle said it is “undeniable” that social media has provided a platform for the rioters.

“We have been clear with these companies they also have a responsibility not to peddle the harm of those who seek to damage and divide our society, and we are working closely with them to ensure they meet that responsibility,” he added.

'No need to wait'
So, beyond beefing with Musk, what can Britain’s government actually do? The administration has a big legislative stick to use — but it's simply not ready yet.

Under Britain’s Online Safety Act, years in the making, platforms will have a duty to “take robust action” against illegal content. That includes content that incites violence or which is related to “racially or religiously aggravated public order offenses.”

Platforms are meant to prevent illegal content appearing on the platforms in the first place — and to act quickly to remove it if it does appear.

Failing to meet these obligations could see social media firms face fines of up to £18 million — or 10 percent of their worldwide revenue, whichever is greater — by media regulator Ofcom.

But crucially, the act's provisions on illegal content only come into effect around the end of 2024. And Britain’s existing laws on inciting violence stem from its 1986 public order act, which predates social media by decades — and so require police to comb platforms for potential breaches.

For now, British authorities can only implore tech companies to do the right thing and stringently enforce their own policies, many of which claim to ban the kind of content that has been openly rife online in recent days.

“There’s no need for online services to wait for the new laws to come into force before they make their sites and apps safer for users,” said a spokesperson for Britain's tech regulator, Ofcom.

“Our role will be to make sure that regulated services take appropriate steps to protect their users,” they added. “It will not involve us making decisions about individual posts or accounts.”

Sunder Katwala, director of the think tank British Future, told POLITICO that “will and capacity” are needed by social media platforms to remove offensive or dangerous content, “and what you've got at the moment is less will and and less capacity than you used to have, certainly in the case of X — and on Facebook and Tiktok.” X, Meta, TikTok, and Telegram were approached for comment.

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Social media could have upsides in catching those breaking the law. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

He added that pressure from the top could be key to forcing change, since “politicians have actually got something very important on the regulators — which is that they've got a forum to which you can summon people.”

Sara Khan, who served as former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s adviser on social cohesion, has accused ministers of failing to heed her 2021 report co-authored with Metropolitan Police chief Mark Rowley, which warned that certain prevalent forms of hateful extremism are not captured by existing legislation.

“Our rules have failed to evolve with this growing extremist threat, there are gaps in our legislation that is allowing them to, in effect, operate with impunity," Khan told the Guardian this week.

Over in the EU, the bloc's equivalent of the Online Safety Act — the Digital Services Act — is already in force and X is facing a probe by the European Commission over the spread of toxic content on the platform.

In France, President Emmanuel Macron even floated the idea of cutting access to social media platforms altogether because of the role he said they played in exacerbating riots in the country last summer. Britain seems unlikely to go quite that far.

Action by social media giants ultimately depends on the credible threat of enforcing regulation, according to Katwala — something he believes has been sorely lacking so far. "If tech companies don’t comply when the time comes, we’ll have a broad range of enforcement powers at our disposal," said the Ofcom spokesperson.

In the meantime, social media could have upsides in catching those breaking the law. Nazir Afzal, who was chief crown prosecutor in the north west of England at the time of 2011 disorder, pointed out that videos shared online would make it far easier to identify perpetrators than it was 13 years ago, when the main resource available was CCTV.

But, as the sparring with Musk continues, Britain's government remains to be convinced. “Some of this is about criminal behavior of individuals, and some of this is about the responsibility of the social media companies,” said Cooper, the home secretary. “We need to pursue both, because we obviously cannot carry on like this.”
 
I don't really care.
Jews do not have a homeland in Europe. They do not belong here. They are not a special breed of foreigner that I should respect more, or worse, consider an ally.
You reject European history too. You reject Romans destroying Judea. You reject pogroms and national socialism. You reject anti-Semitism and the endless expulsions, expropriations and forced conversions.
A real European would consider all this a millennia long struggle against an infiltrating tribe.
And that's the end of it.
Oh, and many congratulations on surviving for so long and being such an ancient tribe.
That's genuinely great.
But kindly, be awesome in Israel, away from us. Thanks!
Well, it's your prerogative to be wrong. There's no such thing as pan-Europeanism, there's no single shared European culture. European history is nothing but one infiltrating tribe against another. Some tribes are winners, some tribes are losers. Some tribes are bound for greatness, some for mediocrity if not worse.

Some tribes, like the Roman tribe, did not stand the test of time. Will yours?
 
Some tribes, like the Roman tribe, did not stand the test of time. Will yours?
Subversion and deconstruction to the very end. How quaint.
It's like I would start debating if you're a real Jew or not if you're from the Levi or Benjamin tribes and start bringing back the endless intra-Jewish feuds in a petty attempt to drive the narrative that you don't share an identity. EyeGuy for example seems secular and doesn't really like the Haredim, at least from what I perceived. Catch the Rainbow also seems on the fence about the orthodox Jews and their fanaticism. Imagine I would start to push the idea that because of these inner power struggles, a Jewish identity does not really exist.
Why are you guys like this? Why is Israel not enough? It's just... so much entitlement and pride. Crazy shit.
 
Subversion and deconstruction to the very end. How quaint.
It's like I would start debating if you're a real Jew or not if you're from the Levi or Benjamin tribes and start bringing back the endless intra-Jewish feuds in a petty attempt to drive the narrative that you don't share an identity. EyeGuy for example seems secular and doesn't really like the Haredim, at least from what I perceived. Catch the Rainbow also seems on the fence about the orthodox Jews and their fanaticism. Imagine I would start to push the idea that because of these inner power struggles, a Jewish identity does not really exist.
Why are you guys like this? Why is Israel not enough? It's just... so much entitlement and pride. Crazy shit.
I don't understand your complaint. By that logic Christians don't belong in Europe as their homeland is also Israel. How many nations do Christians need? Why is Rome not enough for the Catholics?

Your land is only yours if you can defend it, whether by fire and sword, or by cunning. Otherwise it very quickly becomes someone else's homeland and you become a footnote in the history books. Crying about it after the fact is, well, kinda gay. Either pick up a sword and fight, or shut the fuck up. Europe is no exception, survival of the fittest still applies.

Now to get back on topic, the British are fighting for their homeland right now against Muslim invaders, and that exemplifies exactly what I've been talking about. Land is not given, it's taken by fire and sword. Glad to see they learned from Israel how to stand up to Muslims.
 
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Fake news channels on X helped to disseminate false information about the killing of three children in Southport last week.
What specifically was fake?

Under Britain’s Online Safety Act, years in the making, platforms will have a duty to “take robust action” against illegal content. That includes content that incites violence or which is related to “racially or religiously aggravated public order offenses.”
"Content that incites violence" makes for lovely contrast with content that incites sadness. If you're sad, you're sick: you have to submit to brainwashing, poisoning, and chemical castration. But if you're angry, the person who said (maybe relayed) a thing that made you angry is guilty of a crime.

"related to racially or religiously aggravated public order offenses" makes it illegal to talk about a crime you've been a victim of; by the letter, it should also apply to incidents of huwhites beating pakis but of course it won't.

And I love that a once-proud nation of daring colonizers is now put "on a collision course" with a bald coomer.
 
What specifically was fake?
Bunch of claims about the killer being a Muslim, that they arrived by boat last month etc.
I personally think what set them off was the fellow carrying the knife near the vigil, news about whom seems to have vanished as effectively as the motivation behind the stabber. But there was misinformation about the child murdering scum circulating online, it even made it here.
 
Words cannot describe how much I absolutely despise these nigger loving faggots that run the UK.
No way in hell this UK could or would have stood up to Hitler after the fall of France. They'd have fought each other to go over there and suck Hitler's dick for an armistice.

Just a fucking shame, isn't it. Winston Churchill, Queen Elizabeth, and a host of others are turning over in their graves at 500 rpm.
 
Your land is only yours if you can defend it, whether by fire and sword, or by cunning. Otherwise it very quickly becomes someone else's homeland and you become a footnote in the history books. Crying about it after the fact is, well, kinda gay. Either pick up a sword and fight, or shut the fuck up. Europe is no exception, survival of the fittest still applies.
You're one fucking annoying Jew sometimes.
If I am to pick up a sword, I would only do it if it's to crusade for Jerusalem and remove kebab and matzo for eternity from that hellish desert lands.
After all - survival of the fittest.
Fucking annoying how you push the Bongs to do some Muslim oppression and fuckery cause it suits Jews, how Israel is the Jewish homeland, but also how Europeans don't deserve homelands and have no identity.
God I wish I could make the kvetching stop, it's insanity that we tolerated it for so long.
For other Europeans: read this exchange and burn it in your fucking minds, and remember who we are dealing with.
 
You're one fucking annoying Jew sometimes.
If I am to pick up a sword, I would only do it if it's to crusade for Jerusalem and remove kebab and matzo for eternity from that hellish desert lands.
After all - survival of the fittest.
Fucking annoying how you push the Bongs to do some Muslim oppression and fuckery cause it suits Jews, how Israel is the Jewish homeland, but also how Europeans don't deserve homelands and have no identity.
God I wish I could make the kvetching stop, it's insanity that we tolerated it for so long.
For other Europeans: read this exchange and burn it in your fucking minds, and remember who we are dealing with.
How are you going to pick up a sword if you never held anything heavier than a dick? I'm still trying to understand why in your little peasant mind it's impossible for the British people to get pissed off at the Muslims to the point of wanting to lynch them without it being a Jewish psyop.

Have you unironically never met a Muslim? They're a rather repulsive invasive species. By propagating the whole "Jews done it" narrative you useful idiots are only harming white Europeans by distracting them from their true enemy. Jews have lived in Europe longer than Christians have, and have always been a part of it. Muslims are invaders.
 
The esteemed Douglas Murray adds his two penn'orth into the mix


He and Richard Grenell are two of the most based gay men on Earth.

They both understand the insanity of unlimited 3rd world migration

No way in hell this UK could or would have stood up to Hitler after the fall of France. They'd have fought each other to go over there and suck Hitler's dick for an armistice.

Just a fucking shame, isn't it. Winston Churchill, Queen Elizabeth, and a host of others are turning over in their graves at 500 rpm.
Don't forget possibly the last truly BASED man in politics in England.... Enoch Powell
 
Really the only people opposed to this anti-Muslim sentiment in the UK are either outright Muslims themselves or are assorted swarthoids like Balkan mystery meat Turkish rape-babies who know they're next after the Muslims are gone. Maybe a tankie retard or two.

Murray is pretty funny. He uses his tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore.
 
Would be hilarious if musk shadowbanned all accounts of the limey gov, labour and other state propaganda channels.

Not a ban, just nobody can see what they post. See how they like that.
Fake news channels on X helped to disseminate false information about the killing of three children in Southport
Observe the wording, they are already implying the killings never happened at all.
In France, President Emmanuel Macron even floated the idea of cutting access to social media platforms altogether because of the role he said they played in exacerbating riots in the country last summer.
DO IT! DOOOOO EEEEET! the plebes are already out of bread, take their circus away and see what happens, I dare you, I fucking double-dare you you frog manlet statutory rape shithead.
the harm of those who seek to damage and divide our society
Britain’s Tech Secretary Peter Kyle
So you then?
journalists are going to regret their traitorous existence one day.
Only if you make them regret it, none of the journos who supported dubya's wars regrets it because there were no consequences.

Also knowing journo's scummy nature if shit gets bad enough they're going to flip sides and disavow their past, and most normies are gonna go with it.
 
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Also knowing journo's scummy nature if shit gets bad enough they're going to flip sides and disavow their past, and most normies are gonna go with it.
This is something I've always considered since the right started getting invigorated post-Obama.

There's always grifters and quislings switching sides when it's most convenient, I'd even say it's a fair barometer of when and where the culture is shifting.

And far too often, people on the right are accepting of these types of scumbags, desperate and eager for anything to bolster their influence and numbers.

The left certainly won't oblige anyone guilty of wrongthink, no matter how hard they shill for the cause or how long ago they said 'nigger' on twitter. Normies are always going to go with whats popular, so their opinion and judge of character is meaningless in the grand scheme of things, but its on those who know better to remind ppl who they're dealing with when they lay down with devils.
 
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Some tribes, like the Roman tribe, did not stand the test of time

Buddy the average ashkenazi is more closely related to italians than the OG jews. You had to bring back hebrew because it was a dead language, not saying it is a larp but its getting close...
I don't understand your complaint. By that logic Christians don't belong in Europe as their homeland is also Israel. How many nations do Christians need? Why is Rome not enough for the Catholics?
Because its a religious not an ethnic group, christians are what jews could've been if they had dropped the race thing and just proselytized to anyone who would hear. NGL there were attempts, some jews saw the opportunity when greeks started asking questions about the one god thing, but most jews didn't want more people to join the club.
And far too often, people on the right are accepting of these types of scumbags, desperate and eager for anything to bolster their influence and numbers.
That only works when you're a relatively tiny group on the defensive, once you're on top the need for validation stops.
The left certainly won't oblige anyone guilty of wrongthink, no matter how hard they shill for the cause or how long ago they said 'nigger' on twitter.
Getting cancelled on the left depends on your status and how useful you are. There are plenty of wife beaters, rapists, unironic racists and other scum but they tow the line so everybody looks the other way.
 
Because its a religious not an ethnic group, christians are what jews could've been if they had dropped the race thing and just proselytized to anyone who would hear. NGL there were attempts, some jews saw the opportunity when greeks started asking questions about the one god thing, but most jews didn't want more people to join the club.
There are varieties of Jews, from Ashkenazi to Ethiopian. Not a particularly cohesive ethnic group nowadays. It's also a religion that people can convert to (not easily).
 
That only works when you're a relatively tiny group on the defensive, once you're on top the need for validation stops.
Yeah, that's why I say they should be weeded out early, because once you're on top, there's little incentive to oust the fence-jumpers.

Thats why I say theyre good barometers, as theyre proactive and opportunistic, inherent to their character when advancement of self takes priority over ideals.

They become embedded, and then just wait for the opportunity to stab you in the back the second things start looking grim. Parasites just feeding off of their host until they jump to a new one.
 
How are you going to pick up a sword if you never held anything heavier than a dick? I'm still trying to understand why in your little peasant mind it's impossible for the British people to get pissed off at the Muslims to the point of wanting to lynch them without it being a Jewish psyop.

Have you unironically never met a Muslim? They're a rather repulsive invasive species. By propagating the whole "Jews done it" narrative you useful idiots are only harming white Europeans by distracting them from their true enemy. Jews have lived in Europe longer than Christians have, and have always been a part of it. Muslims are invaders.
Piss off with your false dichotomy. Both - jews and muslims - are a repulsive invasive species. Both are the mortal enemies of Europeans. Or, more to the point, both have declared war on anyone and everyone who isn't them. Muslims have the Ummah and the kaffir, and if the unbelievers won't convert revert, they want them Dhimmi or dead. Likewise with jews and gentiles, and the jews want the goyim either dead or enslaved.

And jews and muslims have both been expelled from Europe a few times before, too. There's no negotiation or compromise possible either, since both in-groups see it as their sacred duty to achieve dominion over the religiously-designated out-group. You can all fuck off, please. Thank you kindly.
 
Piss off with your false dichotomy. Both - jews and muslims - are a repulsive invasive species. Both are the mortal enemies of Europeans. Or, more to the point, both have declared war on anyone and everyone who isn't them. Muslims have the Ummah and the kaffir, and if the unbelievers won't convert revert, they want them Dhimmi or dead. Likewise with jews and gentiles, and the jews want the goyim either dead or enslaved.

And jews and muslims have both been expelled from Europe a few times before, too. There's no negotiation or compromise possible either, since both in-groups see it as their sacred duty to achieve dominion over the religiously-designated out-group. You can all fuck off, please. Thank you kindly.
Fuck off with that retarded peasant revisionist shit.

Jews have been in Europe longer than Romanian gypsies who got kicked out of India, Christian missionaries from the Middle East, or Arab invaders from Arabia. Current European culture is essentially built on Judaism which formed the base for Christianity. Otherwise you albino forest niggers would still be worshipping tree stumps and sacrificing each other to the forest gods.
 
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