UK Race riots put Britain on collision course with Elon Musk - Britain’s government has social platforms in its sights as incitement spreads — and the X owner is squaring up for a fight.

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Race riots put Britain on collision course with Elon Musk
Politico EU (archive.ph)
By Esther Webber and Vincent Manacourt
2024-08-06 07:56:44GMT

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Fake news channels on X helped to disseminate false information about the killing of three children in Southport last week. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

LONDON — Britain’s in the grip of its worst race riots in decades. And Elon Musk just can't help himself.

The billionaire X owner sparked fury in the British government this weekend after he responded to incendiary footage of the far-right disorder that's sweeping the country by saying "civil war is inevitable."

The post on X was roundly condemned by U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer's office, which said there was “no justification” for Musk’s comments.

But Musk doubled down on Monday night. Responding to a statement from Starmer vowing his government would “not tolerate attacks on mosques or on Muslim communities,” the X boss effectively accused the British prime minister of wearing blinkers. “Shouldn’t you be concerned about attacks on all communities?”

Starmer's top interior minister, Yvette Cooper, meanwhile has a litany of complaints over the way social media giants like X are policing incitement and disinformation on their platforms.

“There are some things which are clearly already criminal, where we'll need police intervention and action to pursue those," Cooper told the BBC Monday. "There are other areas where the social media companies do have clear requirements at the moment to remove criminal material, and should be doing so, but sometimes take too long to do so.

"There are other areas where they have made commitments around their terms and conditions that are supposed to be enforced but are not being done so."

Cooper's vowed to take up the issue with tech giants this week.

Yet, despite plenty of hand-wringing over the proliferation of far-right messaging, Britain's toolbox for forcing the hands of social media companies seems limited.

This time, the riots — which have seen mosques attacked and accommodation for asylum seekers targeted — were inextricably linked to online communications. Fake news channels on X helped to disseminate false information about the killing of three children in Southport last week.

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The riots — which have seen mosques attacked and accommodation for asylum seekers targeted — were inextricably linked to online communications. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

Right-wing influencers with huge reach, such as English Defense League founder Tommy Robinson and actor-turned-anti-woke activist Laurence Fox, have punted messages at their thousands of followers on X, Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. (Fox approvingly shared Musk's attack on Starmer Monday night.)

WhatsApp and Telegram have been used to organize gatherings at short notice, while flyers organizing specific protests have been spread on Facebook. TikTok has been abuzz with videos of the violence.

But X in particular has proven a particular hotbed of far-right chatter. Musk's direct intervention aside, the platform has also reinstated Robinson's account. He is currently banned on Instagram and Facebook.

In a statement Monday, Britain’s Tech Secretary Peter Kyle said it is “undeniable” that social media has provided a platform for the rioters.

“We have been clear with these companies they also have a responsibility not to peddle the harm of those who seek to damage and divide our society, and we are working closely with them to ensure they meet that responsibility,” he added.

'No need to wait'
So, beyond beefing with Musk, what can Britain’s government actually do? The administration has a big legislative stick to use — but it's simply not ready yet.

Under Britain’s Online Safety Act, years in the making, platforms will have a duty to “take robust action” against illegal content. That includes content that incites violence or which is related to “racially or religiously aggravated public order offenses.”

Platforms are meant to prevent illegal content appearing on the platforms in the first place — and to act quickly to remove it if it does appear.

Failing to meet these obligations could see social media firms face fines of up to £18 million — or 10 percent of their worldwide revenue, whichever is greater — by media regulator Ofcom.

But crucially, the act's provisions on illegal content only come into effect around the end of 2024. And Britain’s existing laws on inciting violence stem from its 1986 public order act, which predates social media by decades — and so require police to comb platforms for potential breaches.

For now, British authorities can only implore tech companies to do the right thing and stringently enforce their own policies, many of which claim to ban the kind of content that has been openly rife online in recent days.

“There’s no need for online services to wait for the new laws to come into force before they make their sites and apps safer for users,” said a spokesperson for Britain's tech regulator, Ofcom.

“Our role will be to make sure that regulated services take appropriate steps to protect their users,” they added. “It will not involve us making decisions about individual posts or accounts.”

Sunder Katwala, director of the think tank British Future, told POLITICO that “will and capacity” are needed by social media platforms to remove offensive or dangerous content, “and what you've got at the moment is less will and and less capacity than you used to have, certainly in the case of X — and on Facebook and Tiktok.” X, Meta, TikTok, and Telegram were approached for comment.

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Social media could have upsides in catching those breaking the law. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

He added that pressure from the top could be key to forcing change, since “politicians have actually got something very important on the regulators — which is that they've got a forum to which you can summon people.”

Sara Khan, who served as former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s adviser on social cohesion, has accused ministers of failing to heed her 2021 report co-authored with Metropolitan Police chief Mark Rowley, which warned that certain prevalent forms of hateful extremism are not captured by existing legislation.

“Our rules have failed to evolve with this growing extremist threat, there are gaps in our legislation that is allowing them to, in effect, operate with impunity," Khan told the Guardian this week.

Over in the EU, the bloc's equivalent of the Online Safety Act — the Digital Services Act — is already in force and X is facing a probe by the European Commission over the spread of toxic content on the platform.

In France, President Emmanuel Macron even floated the idea of cutting access to social media platforms altogether because of the role he said they played in exacerbating riots in the country last summer. Britain seems unlikely to go quite that far.

Action by social media giants ultimately depends on the credible threat of enforcing regulation, according to Katwala — something he believes has been sorely lacking so far. "If tech companies don’t comply when the time comes, we’ll have a broad range of enforcement powers at our disposal," said the Ofcom spokesperson.

In the meantime, social media could have upsides in catching those breaking the law. Nazir Afzal, who was chief crown prosecutor in the north west of England at the time of 2011 disorder, pointed out that videos shared online would make it far easier to identify perpetrators than it was 13 years ago, when the main resource available was CCTV.

But, as the sparring with Musk continues, Britain's government remains to be convinced. “Some of this is about criminal behavior of individuals, and some of this is about the responsibility of the social media companies,” said Cooper, the home secretary. “We need to pursue both, because we obviously cannot carry on like this.”
 
Protect users from what? Children were stabbed in their torsos, not their twitter accounts, and people scream at shitskins outside, not on the online.
The UK government would probably like Elon more if he was the one running around stabbing British children on the street. Nobody hates the British people more than them.
 
British policewomen are so adorable. American cop-ettes mistake your wallet for a belt-fed machine gun and shoot you as you're getting your driver's license out during a fix-it ticket. British boobie bobbies go 'excuse me sah, I'm ninety pounds soaking wet, completely unarmed and if you yelled at me I'd cry, but I'm going to come into your house and place these cuffs on you now, just as is propa for you having a naughty little opinion".
 
You need to understand the context here . Yes it’s seething at musk for not rolling over but it’s also the UKs utterly draconian service laws.
The uk government has been trying to put a more solid online surveillance Act in for a long time. The IPA (sadly not beer, but the investigatory powers act) is already incredibly intrusive;
I encourage everyone to read what’s that link (it’s a guardian article, that outlines what it allows, stuff like making phone companies keep everyone’s browsing history for a year and almost total access to communications data that can be processed by government and private companies.)
What they want now with the online safety act will make everything even worse.
Remember we also have the malicious comms act which allows anything that’s deemed offensive (which isn’t defined of course, it’s just ‘I feel offended’) to be prosecuted and we have hate speech laws. Scotland has a law which polices speech even in people’s homes.
We are at the point now where anything you do or say can be deemed offensive even if it’s at your own breakfast table and prosecuted.
And a reminder that this stuff of disproportionally used on the natives. The Muslims are allowed to say whatever they like, but if you criticise them you’re losing your job.
The GDR fell over this shit. All it needs is toilet paper, bananas and coffee running out for two weeks straight, then the Bongs will topple their government. If Germans can get it done, they absolutely will do it.
 
The GDR fell over this shit. All it needs is toilet paper, bananas and coffee running out for two weeks straight, then the Bongs will topple their government. If Germans can get it done, they absolutely will do it.
Well, it’s funny you say that, because we have had some ‘test runs’ of supply shocks. I am convinced that the eggs being absent wasn’t actually bird flu it was a managed supply shock to track what happens. I suspect the runs (pun not Intended) on toilet paper may have been the same thing.
But yeah if the teabags, milk and Greggs dry up we will see some fun.
 
If those rioting were 'immigrants', 'migrants', or 'asylum-seekers', the cucks in charge in the UK would say that's fine and dandy.

But when the British people themselves riot, all of a sudden they are public enemies. Then the police and those in charge wonder why the people now vilify them.

Fuck that shit, and fuck the cucks who have run a once-great nation right into the ground.

Musk can say what he pleases because he lives in a country with a Bill of Rights. X goes all over the world, showing the world 24/7 just how truly fucked the UK is.
 
Off topic but probably related to what's going on in Bangladesh, I heard on the grapevine that we're no longer getting our clothes supply from there. It remains to be seen if business will continue as usual but I wouldn't be surprised if 2024 was a major happening with many disruptions a la covid.
 
It’s so funny to watch a world “leader” wring his hands over an Elon Musk tweet and try to sound tough. Elon Musk, love him or hate him, owns one of the largest platforms in the world and loves to get into slap fights. I genuinely hope Starmer and his lackeys keep poking him.

Part of me wonders if the traitorous child killers that run the UK have any idea how ridiculous they look, then I remember they have been so fully immersed in the WEF religion they can’t fathom anyone but the filthy natives disagreeing with them.
 
The fuckwagons who believe they run the UK should keep something keenly in mind...you can quell riots but you cannot quell ideas. Even if you suppress social media as harshly as the Chinese the ideas will out. And the majority of Britons still believe they have some sort of rights; they will speak their minds.

These idiots would do well to listen to people's concerns and try to address them. Stop letting in so many who neither need nor deserve to live in England. Take your foot of the neck of the people.

The next set of riots will be much worse, far worse than those in charge may be able to handle. The UK police have, for a very long time now, have counted on people's cooperation. Believe they should no longer take that for granted. When you have a UK police force that seems indifferent to real crimes but attacks instances where people are offended like capital crimes, you plant the seeds of lawlessness and outright contempt for authority. If there's little to lose by committing a serious crime, may as well go out there and do it. And don't count much on the British Army, too small to keep the entire island under control. Look how much it took for the British Army to keep Northern Ireland from tearing itself apart.

Personally have no expectation that the swine who murdered those three little girls will face any real justice. He might get a few months in jail, maybe even a year, then back out to kill again.

This shit isn't over, and believe the next time things will be much worse. People's patience with these fools is just about gone for good.
 
Are there still riots? I've heard all cooled down. No news about actual proper events this week.
Bongs got drunk yet again in the weekend, and then went "welp, gotta get to work so I can get drunk again the next Friday, sorry but important political goals like dealing a mortal blow to the pro-immigration gobmint can wait, wagecage here I come!"

That's a homosexual Zionist.
When will the Romanians rise up against the brown menace that floods their streets with crime, violence, and drugs? Oh wait, that's just Romanians themselves.

I thought you'd be first to celebrate Europeans rising up against a horde of unwashed degenerate Muslim invaders, just like their Zionist role models in Israel.
 
When will the Romanians rise up against the brown menace that floods their streets with crime, violence, and drugs? Oh wait, that's just Romanians themselves.

I thought you'd be first to celebrate Europeans rising up against a horde of unwashed degenerate Muslim invaders, just like their Zionist role models in Israel.
Bad bait hon.
I literally said they should be all deported in the main topic.
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Our differences are not with Muslims, but with Jews, which I consider still foreign and Semitic. You guys have Israel, that should be enough, but for some reason, it's not.
You see, I am 100% fine if all the West deports Romanians. I believe in ethnic states, where you get land, and you remain there.
But you would cry crocodile tears for Jews being deported from countries where they do not belong.
 
Bad bait hon.
I literally said they should be all deported in the main topic.
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Our differences are not with Muslims, but with Jews, which I consider still foreign and Semitic. You guys have Israel, that should be enough, but for some reason, it's not.
You see, I am 100% fine if all the West deports Romanians. I believe in ethnic states, where you get land, and you remain there.
But you would cry crocodile tears for Jews being deported from countries where they do not belong.
Except that unlike Muslim invaders and African economic migrants, Jews always lived in those parts. It's a religion older than Christianity and Islam put together. It was around Europe and the Med when most of y'all were still worshipping tree stumps and wearing animal furs. Never forget that Christianity came to Europe came after Judaism, you don't want to start a discussion on who is truly the foreign element there.
 
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Except that unlike Muslim invaders and African economic migrants, Jews always lived in those parts. It's a religion older than Christianity and Islam put together. It was around Europe and the Med when most of y'all were still worshipping tree stumps and wearing animal furs. Never forget that Christianity came to Europe came after Judaism, you don't want to start a discussion on who is truly the foreign element there.
I don't really care.
Jews do not have a homeland in Europe. They do not belong here. They are not a special breed of foreigner that I should respect more, or worse, consider an ally.
You reject European history too. You reject Romans destroying Judea. You reject pogroms and national socialism. You reject anti-Semitism and the endless expulsions, expropriations and forced conversions.
A real European would consider all this a millennia long struggle against an infiltrating tribe.
And that's the end of it.
Oh, and many congratulations on surviving for so long and being such an ancient tribe.
That's genuinely great.
But kindly, be awesome in Israel, away from us. Thanks!
 
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