UK Race riots put Britain on collision course with Elon Musk - Britain’s government has social platforms in its sights as incitement spreads — and the X owner is squaring up for a fight.

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Race riots put Britain on collision course with Elon Musk
Politico EU (archive.ph)
By Esther Webber and Vincent Manacourt
2024-08-06 07:56:44GMT

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Fake news channels on X helped to disseminate false information about the killing of three children in Southport last week. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

LONDON — Britain’s in the grip of its worst race riots in decades. And Elon Musk just can't help himself.

The billionaire X owner sparked fury in the British government this weekend after he responded to incendiary footage of the far-right disorder that's sweeping the country by saying "civil war is inevitable."

The post on X was roundly condemned by U.K. Prime Minister Keir Starmer's office, which said there was “no justification” for Musk’s comments.

But Musk doubled down on Monday night. Responding to a statement from Starmer vowing his government would “not tolerate attacks on mosques or on Muslim communities,” the X boss effectively accused the British prime minister of wearing blinkers. “Shouldn’t you be concerned about attacks on all communities?”

Starmer's top interior minister, Yvette Cooper, meanwhile has a litany of complaints over the way social media giants like X are policing incitement and disinformation on their platforms.

“There are some things which are clearly already criminal, where we'll need police intervention and action to pursue those," Cooper told the BBC Monday. "There are other areas where the social media companies do have clear requirements at the moment to remove criminal material, and should be doing so, but sometimes take too long to do so.

"There are other areas where they have made commitments around their terms and conditions that are supposed to be enforced but are not being done so."

Cooper's vowed to take up the issue with tech giants this week.

Yet, despite plenty of hand-wringing over the proliferation of far-right messaging, Britain's toolbox for forcing the hands of social media companies seems limited.

This time, the riots — which have seen mosques attacked and accommodation for asylum seekers targeted — were inextricably linked to online communications. Fake news channels on X helped to disseminate false information about the killing of three children in Southport last week.

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The riots — which have seen mosques attacked and accommodation for asylum seekers targeted — were inextricably linked to online communications. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

Right-wing influencers with huge reach, such as English Defense League founder Tommy Robinson and actor-turned-anti-woke activist Laurence Fox, have punted messages at their thousands of followers on X, Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. (Fox approvingly shared Musk's attack on Starmer Monday night.)

WhatsApp and Telegram have been used to organize gatherings at short notice, while flyers organizing specific protests have been spread on Facebook. TikTok has been abuzz with videos of the violence.

But X in particular has proven a particular hotbed of far-right chatter. Musk's direct intervention aside, the platform has also reinstated Robinson's account. He is currently banned on Instagram and Facebook.

In a statement Monday, Britain’s Tech Secretary Peter Kyle said it is “undeniable” that social media has provided a platform for the rioters.

“We have been clear with these companies they also have a responsibility not to peddle the harm of those who seek to damage and divide our society, and we are working closely with them to ensure they meet that responsibility,” he added.

'No need to wait'
So, beyond beefing with Musk, what can Britain’s government actually do? The administration has a big legislative stick to use — but it's simply not ready yet.

Under Britain’s Online Safety Act, years in the making, platforms will have a duty to “take robust action” against illegal content. That includes content that incites violence or which is related to “racially or religiously aggravated public order offenses.”

Platforms are meant to prevent illegal content appearing on the platforms in the first place — and to act quickly to remove it if it does appear.

Failing to meet these obligations could see social media firms face fines of up to £18 million — or 10 percent of their worldwide revenue, whichever is greater — by media regulator Ofcom.

But crucially, the act's provisions on illegal content only come into effect around the end of 2024. And Britain’s existing laws on inciting violence stem from its 1986 public order act, which predates social media by decades — and so require police to comb platforms for potential breaches.

For now, British authorities can only implore tech companies to do the right thing and stringently enforce their own policies, many of which claim to ban the kind of content that has been openly rife online in recent days.

“There’s no need for online services to wait for the new laws to come into force before they make their sites and apps safer for users,” said a spokesperson for Britain's tech regulator, Ofcom.

“Our role will be to make sure that regulated services take appropriate steps to protect their users,” they added. “It will not involve us making decisions about individual posts or accounts.”

Sunder Katwala, director of the think tank British Future, told POLITICO that “will and capacity” are needed by social media platforms to remove offensive or dangerous content, “and what you've got at the moment is less will and and less capacity than you used to have, certainly in the case of X — and on Facebook and Tiktok.” X, Meta, TikTok, and Telegram were approached for comment.

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Social media could have upsides in catching those breaking the law. | Christopher Furlong/Getty Images

He added that pressure from the top could be key to forcing change, since “politicians have actually got something very important on the regulators — which is that they've got a forum to which you can summon people.”

Sara Khan, who served as former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s adviser on social cohesion, has accused ministers of failing to heed her 2021 report co-authored with Metropolitan Police chief Mark Rowley, which warned that certain prevalent forms of hateful extremism are not captured by existing legislation.

“Our rules have failed to evolve with this growing extremist threat, there are gaps in our legislation that is allowing them to, in effect, operate with impunity," Khan told the Guardian this week.

Over in the EU, the bloc's equivalent of the Online Safety Act — the Digital Services Act — is already in force and X is facing a probe by the European Commission over the spread of toxic content on the platform.

In France, President Emmanuel Macron even floated the idea of cutting access to social media platforms altogether because of the role he said they played in exacerbating riots in the country last summer. Britain seems unlikely to go quite that far.

Action by social media giants ultimately depends on the credible threat of enforcing regulation, according to Katwala — something he believes has been sorely lacking so far. "If tech companies don’t comply when the time comes, we’ll have a broad range of enforcement powers at our disposal," said the Ofcom spokesperson.

In the meantime, social media could have upsides in catching those breaking the law. Nazir Afzal, who was chief crown prosecutor in the north west of England at the time of 2011 disorder, pointed out that videos shared online would make it far easier to identify perpetrators than it was 13 years ago, when the main resource available was CCTV.

But, as the sparring with Musk continues, Britain's government remains to be convinced. “Some of this is about criminal behavior of individuals, and some of this is about the responsibility of the social media companies,” said Cooper, the home secretary. “We need to pursue both, because we obviously cannot carry on like this.”
 
Are there still riots? I've heard all cooled down. No news about actual proper events this week.
Bongs got drunk yet again in the weekend, and then went "welp, gotta get to work so I can get drunk again the next Friday, sorry but important political goals like dealing a mortal blow to the pro-immigration gobmint can wait, wagecage here I come!"
esteemed Douglas Murray
That's a homosexual Zionist.
 
All Musk has to do is the exact same thing our Dear Feeder has done. Cite he has done nothing wrong, keep the coverage up and tell these crocodile-teared journos and the government gimp that has their hand up their ass to fuck right off.

This is exactly why the Cathedral has doubled their censorship efforts on their platforms because X formerly known as Twitter has been unveiling their bullshit left and right. Won't forget the time when Twitter was bought out, the Japanese section stopped shilling racial divisive shit and K-pop for Anime, hobbies and nature. Silicon Valley deserves to fall into the ocean.
 
Are there still riots? I've heard all cooled down. No news about actual proper events this week.
Bongs got drunk yet again in the weekend, and then went "welp, gotta get to work so I can get drunk again the next Friday, sorry but important political goals like dealing a mortal blow to the pro-immigration gobmint can wait, wagecage here I come!"

That's a homosexual Zionist.
There's been riots every night so far. It'll be the football - God I hate niggerball so much - that will if anything calm things down. Or might cause even more chaos. 50/50
 
Time to Norm-post: "My greatest fear is that, after the Rwandans nobody voted to import brought their machetes and used them on children, we might see some mean tweets."

and so require police to comb platforms for potential breaches
An army to enforce censorship against the native population, but none available to stop the machete-wielding hordes...
 
You need to understand the context here . Yes it’s seething at musk for not rolling over but it’s also the UKs utterly draconian service laws.
The uk government has been trying to put a more solid online surveillance Act in for a long time. The IPA (sadly not beer, but the investigatory powers act) is already incredibly intrusive;
I encourage everyone to read what’s that link (it’s a guardian article, that outlines what it allows, stuff like making phone companies keep everyone’s browsing history for a year and almost total access to communications data that can be processed by government and private companies.)
What they want now with the online safety act will make everything even worse.
Remember we also have the malicious comms act which allows anything that’s deemed offensive (which isn’t defined of course, it’s just ‘I feel offended’) to be prosecuted and we have hate speech laws. Scotland has a law which polices speech even in people’s homes.
We are at the point now where anything you do or say can be deemed offensive even if it’s at your own breakfast table and prosecuted.
And a reminder that this stuff of disproportionally used on the natives. The Muslims are allowed to say whatever they like, but if you criticise them you’re losing your job.
 
The uk government has been trying to put a more solid online surveillance Act in for a long time. The IPA (sadly not beer, but the investigatory powers act) is already incredibly intrusive;
I encourage everyone to read what’s that link (it’s a guardian article, that outlines what it allows, stuff like making phone companies keep everyone’s browsing history for a year and almost total access to communications data that can be processed by government and private companies.)
What they want now with the online safety act will make everything even worse.
Remember we also have the malicious comms act which allows anything that’s deemed offensive (which isn’t defined of course, it’s just ‘I feel offended’) to be prosecuted and we have hate speech laws. Scotland has a law which polices speech even in people’s homes.
We are at the point now where anything you do or say can be deemed offensive even if it’s at your own breakfast table and prosecuted.
There is a bear trap closing around us; and no normie I know seems to care. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because every time I bring it up they just shrug, or call me a liar or say 'oh no that won't happen'. I feel like Cassandra but more racist and homophobic.
 
That's a homosexual Zionist.

a.) If you're going to pack the fudge, at least be like Douglas about it. Wear a well-cut suit and keep it behind closed doors.

b.) People are so insufferably dumb about teh jooz. Complain about them living among civilized white people. Complain about them wanting to fuck off to a shithole in the desert to live there. If all shitskins wanted to go home to live in Pakistan or Bangladesh or some other shithole, that'd be a cause for celebration, not for complaint. (Of course, that's never going to happen. Put a group of niggers or shitskins together and all you'll have is a group of niggers or shitskins. The very best you can hope for is inertia. The most likely outcome is economic collapse. They want to live among white people and jews because we know how to build a civilization.) But when it's the jews wanting to fuck off back to a shithole in the desert, people act as though child raping, lying donkeyfuckers are some valuable civilization that are somehow worth protecting because... ah, yes. da jooz, da jooz!
 
There is a bear trap closing around us; and no normie I know seems to care. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because every time I bring it up they just shrug, or call me a liar or say 'oh no that won't happen'. I feel like Cassandra but more racist and homophobic.
The number of times I've told people what will happen, been dismissed as paranoid or ignorant, then watched it happen, only to have them turn around and say "why did nobody tell us this would happen?" is large enough that I had to take my socks off to count them. It's starting to get on my nerves, just a little bit.
 
a.) If you're going to pack the fudge, at least be like Douglas about it. Wear a well-cut suit and keep it behind closed doors.

b.) People are so insufferably dumb about teh jooz. Complain about them living among civilized white people. Complain about them wanting to fuck off to a shithole in the desert to live there. If all shitskins wanted to go home to live in Pakistan or Bangladesh or some other shithole, that'd be a cause for celebration, not for complaint. (Of course, that's never going to happen. Put a group of niggers or shitskins together and all you'll have is a group of niggers or shitskins. The very best you can hope for is inertia. The most likely outcome is economic collapse. They want to live among white people and jews because we know how to build a civilization.) But when it's the jews wanting to fuck off back to a shithole in the desert, people act as though child raping, lying donkeyfuckers are some valuable civilization that are somehow worth protecting because... ah, yes. da jooz, da jooz!
Well, yeah, he is a tolerable homo.
However, his rabid Zionism is unacceptable for me. Why is he not arguing for a British Ethnostate? Why is he so pro-Jewish? Like Tommy Robinson?
Just be neutral.
Fuck foreigners, end of story. Don't prioritize a foreigner tribe. Don't go report from Israel and embed with the IDF. Don't shill for Palestinians either.
Neutrality on all non-Europeans, and refusal to support either tribe in any way.
@teriyakiburns if there's something you disagree with, you can tell me what it is and why. After all, we've been posting together in the war threads for a year. I would assume that if you have something against my takes, you'd be just saying what it is and argue your position.
 
There is a bear trap closing around us; and no normie I know seems to care. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills because every time I bring it up they just shrug, or call me a liar or say 'oh no that won't happen'. I feel like Cassandra but more racist and homophobic.

The number of times I've told people what will happen, been dismissed as paranoid or ignorant, then watched it happen, only to have them turn around and say "why did nobody tell us this would happen?" is large enough that I had to take my socks off to count them. It's starting to get on my nerves, just a little bit.
Yeah me too. People don’t want to hear it.
 
It's afraid
But but but if people actually see what is happening in real time with pictures and videos of events, they might learn the truth of a situation before TPTB get a chance to spin it into whatever they want!
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Wasn’t the BBC started because the UK didn’t like the idea of independent media that could control the narrative in a way the government didn’t like? Britain has always had a weird nanny state mentality.
 
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