Mega Rad Gun Thread

[break these cuffs]

Agreed. I've seen people say Magpul's Glock mags are trash, but I've got a bunch of them and use them at the range, and they've never given me any problems. I carry with OEM mags, though. Magpul's Glock mags do feel oddly cheap. Very strange considering how nice their other mags are.

I have a bunch and they're fine in my experience. The only thing I've ever seen with them is they can gum up if you're running a shitload of dirty steel cased ammo at a multi-day class or something, but they clean up fine.

 

[Club Sandwich]

here's a more interesting question: Magpul offers aluminum P320 magazines.

https://magpul.com/firearm-accessories/pmags/amag-sig-p320.html

i bought 5 to see how they are at the range and shoot house. pray for me, this is a brave new world. soon the all-metal glock will come out and be cast into the sea, wounding the Beast as he rises, the blood of the dying old world healing him during the End of Days.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

here's a more interesting question: Magpul offers aluminum P320 magazines.

https://magpul.com/firearm-accessories/pmags/amag-sig-p320.html

i bought 5 to see how they are at the range and shoot house. pray for me, this is a brave new world. soon the all-metal glock will come out and be cast into the sea, wounding the Beast as he rises, the blood of the dying old world healing him during the End of Days.

Description says “stainless steel alloy”

What’s the advantage vs regular 320 mags?

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

yes and no. are you a racegun enthusiast or need extremely high precision fit for a string of fire before packing up after getting your bullseye points?

No, I'm just a mall ninja who likes to rice my guns. Sounds like I shouldn't do it then. All indications that you know what you're talking about, so I'll take your word for it.

 

[Club Sandwich]

No, I'm just a mall ninja who likes to rice my guns. Sounds like I shouldn't do it then. All indications that you know what you're talking about, so I'll take your word for it.

if you want to do it, go for it, however generally lapping starts by having the surfaces made parallel or milled close to parallel (or stoned parallel) by about a thousandth, then you lap with 800 then 6000 grit compound and oil and use a leather or delrin mallet with a mandrel or slide holder to keep things square and in line. at the end of many many hours you will take off about 1-4 thousandths to get a working fit and no more, get a less reliable gun that gets dirty easily and out of "true" after a few hundred shots. great for olympic target pistols or raceguns that see long distance pistol bullseye use with puff loads, not very useful for anything practical. it is also very easy to completely screw yourself over during lapping by getting the ends of the rails canted, or galling with a stainless frame and slide or managing to get debris in the rail and ruining the lap forcing extremely careful welding or giving up and getting a new frame to start over, et c.

fitting a slide to a frame is much more practical way to tighten up slide slop if you feel it's holding back your shooting. this is done with gauges and parallel blocks with a mandrel to get the right fit for both slide and frame independently, making sure they are very close clearance and that clearance is consistent (typically within 5 thousandths is what i recommend for a working pistol).

Description says “stainless steel alloy”

What’s the advantage vs regular 320 mags?

interesting, they don't really attract a magnet strongly, i guess i read "alloy" and assumed aluminum. presumably the P320 doesn't lend itself well to all-polymer magazines due to frame dimensions and these are less expensive than the OEM SIG magazines by like $11 each.

 

[EggImpregnator]

I can't stand AR elitism.

 

[break these cuffs]

I can't stand AR elitism.

Heh. Sorry, can't hear you over the Hodge Defense I paid $5,000 to part together on the secondary market.

 

[quaawaa]

I can't stand AR elitism.

There's a handful of brands like LMT, KAC, and JP that are worth a premium (and a few more like CMMG that make unique uppers) but everyone else that reddit loves like Aero Precision, BCM, Daniel Defense, Geissele, etc. are not worth the extra money over a PSA.

 

[Verdun_Salient]

Is replacing worn out barrels on milsurp worthwhile?

 

[AncientPhosphur]

Heh. Sorry, can't hear you over the Hodge Defense I paid $5,000 to part together on the secondary market.

*misses the silhouette at 200m*

Also any place that sells M17 complete slides? I have the M18 but I’m thinking of just getting the M17 and use that as a production gun for USPSA since it’s the only thing I haven’t really modified and I don’t want to do open matches with my Glock 19 while everyone tricks out 2011s

 

[break these cuffs]

There's a handful of brands like LMT, KAC, and JP that are worth a premium (and a few more like CMMG that make unique uppers) but everyone else that reddit loves like Aero Precision, BCM, Daniel Defense, Geissele, etc. are not worth the extra money over a PSA.

I've read complaints over LMT's civilian QC these days. Their bolts are great, but you're paying for the name. KAC doesn't honor their accuracy guarentee for civilians and you're paying a huge premium for the name along with the innovating they're doing that you don't need. There are plenty of companies overpay for if you have money burning a hole in your pocket, but we live in a world where carbines I'd put in the workhorse category are now $1400-1600 instead of $1000-1200. That's plenty for me.

You can look at LWRC's DI guns for fancy stuff like a fully ambi lower and their pseudo mono upper is intriguing if you're actually going slap a lot of shit on your rails. ADM has their fully ambi lower and their accessories have always been top quality. Pretty sure they use Criterion barrels, or at least they did. I was actually thinking about getting one of JP's basic bitch guns before covid because they seemed competitively priced for what you usually pay for the JP name. Never had any complaints about antyhing I've bought from them and very responsive customer service.

My go to option to recommend for years was Centurion Arms. Great tolerances and FN barrels. They'll drill your gas port to spec if you ask. I have a 12.5" ported for 100% can use and love it. Their prices only went up like $150 even during the huge covid hikes. They never had the popularity of say BCM, but I'd put mine up against rifles that cost substantially more.

 

[quaawaa]

Also any place that sells M17 complete slides? I have the M18 but I’m thinking of just getting the M17 and use that as a production gun for USPSA since it’s the only thing I haven’t really modified and I don’t want to do open matches with my Glock 19 while everyone tricks out 2011s

Sig sells OEM parts and Midwest Gun Works is a good retailer. Remember, the only controlled part of a P320 is the FCU.

You can look at LWRC's DI guns for fancy stuff like a fully ambi lower and their pseudo mono upper is intriguing if you're actually going slap a lot of shit on your rails.

LMT is the only company that sells a mono upper because the patent hasn't expired yet.

KAC doesn't honor their accuracy guarentee for civilians and you're paying a huge premium for the name along with the innovating they're doing that you don't need.

Better to pay the premium for "useless" innovation than for ??? like with the hyped companies.

 

[break these cuffs]

LMT is the only company that sells a mono upper because the patent hasn't expired yet.

Hence why I qualified it with the word pseudo.

Better to pay the premium for "useless" innovation than for ??? like with the hyped companies.

Buy something that actually suits your use case and then spend the rest on ammo, pay for classes, or buy quality optics instead of slapping some $300 "best bang for the buck" dogshit on a 16" DMR RECCE SPR Hadji Killer.

 

[quaawaa]

Buy something that actually suits your use case and then spend the rest on ammo, pay for classes, or buy quality optics instead of slapping some $300 "best bang for the buck" dogshit on a 16" DMR RECCE SPR Hadji Killer.

That is poorfag cope. The guys who can afford a $2000+ rifle can also afford $1500 LPVOs and more ammo than they can shoot. You might have to make a choice between buying a gun and going to the range but they don't.

If you can't afford the ultra-high end guns, just get a PSA because it's just as good for 99% of civilian shooters.

 

[break these cuffs]

That is poorfag cope. The guy who can afford a $2000+ rifle can also afford a $1500 LPVO and more ammo than he can shoot. You might have to make a choice between buying a gun and going to the range but they don't.

How is saying "buy what you need instead of frivilous shit and spend the rest on using what you buy" poorfag cope? Nowhere did I imply you're choosing between a rifle and ammo. Between this and not knowing what the word pseudo means, are you ESL?

 

[quaawaa]

How is saying "buy what you need instead of frivilous shit and spend the rest on using what you buy" poorfag cope? Nowhere did I imply you're choosing between a rifle and ammo. Between this and not knowing what the word pseudo means, are you ESL?

No, I just don't think that buying a pseudo-monolithic upper is worth it over a standard upper. Either buy the real thing or the cheap thing.

You did imply that buying a KAC (or in your words a '16" DMR RECCE SPR Hadji Killer') is a waste of money because they're so expensive that owners can't afford more than $300 for an optic. I said that when you pay the $2k+ for them, you're actually getting something for your money (e.g. exotic bolt/barrel coatings, dual ejectors, more reliable bolt design, full ambi lower, etc.) unlike a lot of the other mid/high priced guns where the only thing you're getting is vague promises about quality control.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

LMT is the only company that sells a mono upper because the patent hasn't expired yet

I guess they need to sue Colt, cause that's where I got my mono upper from.

 

[quaawaa]

I guess they need to sue Colt, cause that's where I got my mono upper from.

LMT did sue Colt over that:

 

[break these cuffs]

No, I just don't think that buying a pseudo-monolithic upper is worth it over a standard upper. Either buy the real thing or the cheap thing.

Then say what you mean instead of just writing random shit. How the does:

LMT is the only company that sells a mono upper because the patent hasn't expired yet.

convey what you later clarified?

You did imply that buying a KAC (or in your words a '16" DMR RECCE SPR Hadji Killer') is a waste of money because they're so expensive that owners can't afford more than $300 for an optic. I said that when you pay the $2k+ for them, you're actually getting something for your money (e.g. exotic bolt/barrel coatings, dual ejectors, more reliable bolt design, full ambi lower, etc.) unlike a lot of the other mid/high priced guns where the only thing you're getting is vague promises about quality control.

Dude, I flat out said that buying expensive AR, not just KAC, is useless for what most people shoot. I gave multiple examples, not just the $300 optic, of things I think their money would be better spent on. Nowhere did I say they couldn't even afford a better optic. I said they don't buy them because over the past 20+ years of shooting I have seen plenty of people buy all kinds of expensive guns and then cheap out on everything else. How many fucking people don't even put a sling on their rifle or buy a holster for their pistol?

You're reading what you want to read. I don't know whether it's autism, cope because you spent $6000 on a KAC during covid, or you're black. Fucking read and then write what you mean.

 

[quaawaa]

Dude, I flat out said that buying expensive AR, not just KAC, is useless for what most people shoot.

not worth the extra money over a PSA.

just get a PSA because it's just as good for 99% of civilian shooters.

Speak for yourself:

You're reading what you want to read. I don't know whether it's autism, cope because you spent $6000 on a KAC during covid, or you're black. Fucking read and then write what you mean.