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[draggs]

Source, nigger. We want a source.

Sources are reddit, and fuck you (not in a ghey way like JD Vance)

 

[John Badman]

It’ll be interesting to see the geopolitical cauldron bubble over if either Russia or Iran decide to act mean. Will the media continue to push it out of the news like they’ve done with Venezuela and Britain?

Kamala’s campaign can’t afford any questioning. What happens when they’re forced into an uncomfortable position acknowledging how their primary runner is doing nothing for the country on the campaign trail instead of in the White House?

 

[Sammich]

This is from preddit so take it with a huge grain of salt but this is apparently a pic of Vance at some party dressed as a woman in college
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This is the source apparently
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are they aware of the foolishness people get up to when they are in highschool/college? Why are they so dead set on making jd relatable? What is the attack/issue here? Serious question.

 

[CaddestSlown]

are they aware of the foolishness people get up to when they are in highschool/college? Why are they so dead set on making jd relatable? What is the attack/issue here? Serious question.

Because they think the things that make him relatable are something to be villainized. They're stupid sociopaths and or lizard people.

 

[holyhandgrenade]

Wrong it’s Irish Spring and you’re incorrect.

imagine being an irish nigger

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

imagine being an irish nigger

aye, but I like it too!

 

[spiritofamermaid]

Will we be watching the DNC and reacting to it here or in the DNC thread?

 

[Formica Sample]

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PA was always going to get "fortified." It has Josh Shapiro as governor and a 5D-2R democrat majority in the PA Supreme Court. When people tried to bring lawsuits in 2020, they went nowhere.

Pennsylvania has been a corrupt shithole for decades. The big problem is, it's not quite as corrupt as places like New York or California, and the governor isn't as crazy and loud as, say, Whitmer. Governor Wolf got a little crazy during the pandemic, and PA made the national news once or twice, but the state tends to be a few places down the list in terms of corruption. It's bad, just not quite bad enough to get national attention. To my knowledge, there are no conservative groups bringing lawsuits to clean up voter lists. There's no push for paper ballots. There's no push to get every vote counted on election day. There's nothing.

But rest assured, democrats in PA are just as crazy as the rest. Hell, Josh Shapiro first made headlines wasting PA tax dollars to sue Trump dozens of times.

By the way, this is why Kamala would've picked Shapiro:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-pennsylvania-attorney-general-josh-shapiro-won-40-of-trumps-voter-lawsuits

He's the reason Biden took Pennsylvania.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Do they really want to try to dunk on Vance for putting on a wig when their guy drinks horse cum?

Yes

 

[mlanguishi]

Say what you want about Vance, I think he's one of the sharper VP picks I've seen. But this Walz guy acts like a true flamer, sets up hotlines to snitch on everyone about Covid, lies about his record for years and years, and then says 'mind your own business'. He's a true nut.

It's true that 'both sides', which liberals hate to hear, obviously are easier on their people than their opponents when it comes to plusses and minuses. That's human nature and politics has become more of a team sport than ever. I still can't believe how fast they totally went from 'Biden is our true path to salvation' to 'who is Biden?' in about 3 weeks. Democrats have party loyalty, but clearly do not care whatsoever about who is actually running things.

Republicans can do the same thing sometimes, W was pretty much thrown under the bus by everyone and he's not even invited to the RNC anymore.

And for damn sure, when the left guys like Walz lie he 'misspoke' and if Trump or any Republican makes any mistake it's 'heinous lies'.

ETA and the polls are worse than ever now, nothing makes sense. On issues, on state-wide, all of them are crazy now.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

W

fuck dubya, if he hadn't been running against Joe Liberman and Tipper Gore's husband he would have been fucked

 

[mlanguishi]

fuck dubya, if he hadn't been running against Joe Liberman and Tipper Gore's husband he would have been fucked

I thought his first term was fine, but he totally checked out the 2nd and I kind of don't blame him. He had the same 'Bush=Hitler' treatment almost as bad as Trump. I'm just glad he was in charge during 9/11 instead of Gore. He did get lucky in 2004 because Kerry was just the worst I think ever. Harris/Walz is turning out to possibly be even worse. The main thing that saved W in 2004 imo is the swift-boating and that Kerry waffled on so much.

Later parts of Bush era gas was incredibly cheap too. With Gore who knows, could've been 5x as much. Clinton/Gore was hit by the .dot com bust and Bush by 2008 financial disaster, so all of them sucked on most things. The main thing I'm thankful for W for is getting rid of the AWB which these Democrats STILL go on about like scary looking black rifles are awful on. Trump's mediocre on that subject too, but he doesn't give lip service to AWB talk at all.

 

[Breadbassket]

Republicans can do the same thing sometimes, W was pretty much thrown under the bus by everyone and he's not even invited to the RNC anymore.

Biden and Bush are two different stories. Biden had all the artificial support, praise ad promotion pulled away from him he was probably used to having and as a result when left to stand on his own in the state he's in the man became a complete afterthought despite holding the position of President of the United States. He was left behind by the side that was supposed to back him.

Bush on the other hand willingly abandoned the base that made him when the wind blew in a direction he wasn't used to. He didn't support Trump in 2016 and he won't support him now. The GOP didn't throw Bush under the bus, he himself abandoned the GOP and does nothing now but paint art and get hollow praise from people who 20 years ago compared him to the Fuhrer of Nazi Germany.

 

[holyhandgrenade]

ush on the other hand willingly abandoned the base that made him when the wind blew in a direction he wasn't used to. He didn't support Trump in 2016 and he won't support him now. The GOP didn't leave Dubya behind, he left the GOP behind and does nothing now but paint art and get hollow praise from people who 20 years ago compared him to the Fuhrer of Nazi Germany.

W was a politician because his daddy was just like his daddy etc and he forced him into it. If not for that he would have been some retard liberal arts major who painted cats for a living and smoked hemp.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Biden and Bush are two different stories. Biden had all the artificial support, praise ad promotion pulled away from him he was probably used to having and as a result when left to stand on his own in the state he's in the man became a complete afterthought despite holding the position of President of the United States. He was left behind by the side that was supposed to back him.

Bush on the other hand willingly abandoned the base that made him when the wind blew in a direction he wasn't used to. He didn't support Trump in 2016 and he won't support him now. The GOP didn't leave Dubya behind, he left the GOP behind and does nothing now but paint art and get hollow praise from people who 20 years ago compared him to the Fuhrer of Nazi Germany.

The real test is what the boomers do post-Trump. The same people in my life that were very pro-Reagan, Bush Sr., Dole, Bush Jr., Romney, and McCain are all now very pro-Trump. Ideologically, these candidates don't align with Trump at all, with the minor exception of Reagan's first campaign.

The 2028 Republican primaries will tell the story. Do they slip back into the next neocon that the GOP pushes in front of them, or do they stick with their newfound idealism and force another populist candidate?

@holyhandgrenade Bush Jr. was never supposed to win. Jeb was planned to be Bush Sr.'s successor, but Al Gore was a smarmy queer that nobody wanted to vote for. Bush Jr did so much damage to the GOP's reputation that a lot of right leaning millennials left the party, leaving Romney and McCain hanging in the wind on youth votes. By the time it was Jeb's turn, the Bush family was already dead to any voters under 40.

 

[Breadbassket]

The real test is what the boomers do post-Trump. The same people in my life that were very pro-Reagan, Bush Sr., Dole, Bush Jr., Romney, and McCain are all now very pro-Trump. Ideologically, these candidates don't align with Trump at all, with the minor exception of Reagan's first campaign.

The 2028 Republican primaries will tell the story. Do they slip back into the next neocon that the GOP pushes in front of them, or do they stick with their newfound idealism and force another populist candidate?

I am very curious to see what a GOP without Trump at the center of it would look like. He still has the potential to be a kingmaker until the 2030s should he win this election. Unless his ideas can be solidified into some sort of creed or standard for Republican politicians to stick to there is a very real possibility a power vacuum will appear in the party at some point.

 

[harmy.kook]

but yeah I'd love to hear about how Vance crapped in lolicon's personal stash, because holy shit I was merely "meh" on the dude and this nigga coming out with both barrels like a catboy jerker crying about Trump and DA JUICE

Let's be real here: Lolicon niggers have been getting BTFO'd all over the place this year.

All the pedophiles and degenerates are losing their shit because Trump/Vance winning would mean blows to their "Freedom of Expression" or whatever.

 

[mlanguishi]

Bush on the other hand willingly abandoned the base that made him when the wind blew in a direction he wasn't used to. He didn't support Trump in 2016 and he won't support him now. The GOP didn't throw Bush under the bus, he himself abandoned the GOP and does nothing now but paint art and get hollow praise from people who 20 years ago compared him to the Fuhrer of Nazi Germany.

Yeah, Bush is an odd one for me to really gauge. Even people I know that supported him would just say 'damn he sounds like an idiot' a lot. The term 'Bushisms' was all over the place.

Sometimes I think maybe it would be better if presidents just have a single 6 year term, because it sure feels like the US is in constant election mode. Usually when a president leaves he's mostly forgotten shortly. Trump is the one for sure that kept in the news nonstop since 2015. That's a very double edged sword because a lot of people just get sick of hearing about the same person. The only one I think that ever truly got a '4 more years' at the end was Reagan.

I'm just still shocked how Biden is basically done now. He's going to go down like an HW Bush I think, just mostly known for crap economy and doing almost nothing.

ETA and 2028 I think will be up to DeSantis, Vivek, and Vance (Vance if Trump wins, otherwise he'll disappear).

 

[John Badman]

John Kass has a salient take in Chicago I find worthwhile reading as to not go insane over the anger I feel towards the political system.
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Can Harris and Walz Keep Hiding Who They Are?​

By John Kass
Aug. 11, 2024
Are Kamala Harris and Tim Walz just too weird to win election in November?
Or are they the two Democrats that America needs right now dammit, a special pair that have the unique ability to see what can be, unburdened by what has been?
I just can’t say. I’m just a guy who spent his life working in the American news media, much of that time writing a political column at a well-known conservative Chicago newspaper. But after the Black Lives Matter riots of 2020, the paper went woke and then broke and neo-Marxists took the newsroom. I hear them and what remains of the chattering class talking gibberish and jaberwocky about how “Democracy Dies in Darkness” with Harris avoiding any meaningful news conferences, and I’m just about as dazed and confused as the rest of you.
But nagging questions persist. Chief among them: Will Harris and Waltz continue to hide their true selves as what is left of a broken media covers for them?
For example, is is too weird to suggest Vice President Harris–a famous coddler of criminals and George Soros prosecutor zero who unleashed a national crime wave allowed masked thugs to smash-and-grab up t0 $950 in stolen goods a day–has now transformed herself into a stern border warrior who is tough crime? Or is her tough-on-crime pose and her feigned concern over the broken border simply more tapioca pudding shoveled at foolish infants?
And is her Democrat running mate Minnesota Gov. “Tampon Tim” Walz too weird for mandating tampons for middle-school boys at Minnesota schools?
Hmm. Are feminine napkins for schoolboys just too weird, or is all this in keeping with the pursuit of the new “fweedoms” Harris and Walz keep yammering about to their chorus at MSNBC? It’s just rather confusing now that the left wing corporate “mainstream media” (which is anything but ‘mainstream’ ) allows Harris’ and Walz’ true identities to remain masked and hidden. But if they win this election will they finally reveal themselves as did the Jacobins of the French Revolution? Of course. Because by then it will be too late.
Currently, the true nature of the Democrat Party remains hidden. The Jacobins could not win election if their first promise was to crush freedom and lop off the heads of the nobles. It all remains obscure, like their smiles.
And rather like the masks Americans were forced to wear in lockdown states with lockdown governors like Minnesota and Illinois, where we were discouraged from gathering together in our homes on the holidays. We were prohibited from attending church services on Sundays, and public schools were closed, but our political leaders allowed us to worship of sorts at box liquor store and get high on state-approved weed. Remember?
Today’s Democrat is not the Democrat Party I remember, that party of Richard J. Daley in Chicago, the party that loved America like Harry S. Truman. But this Democrat Party preparing to gather in Chicago on August 19 is a gathering of Jacobins. They are all about selling abortion and racial hate. And as such they are nihilists, as were the French Revolutionaries. This is the Democrat Party that is driven to destroy the political system, the party that destroys the old icons and statues, the party that changes the foundational dates, from 1776 to 1619, the party that whips up racial animosity as they did during the insurrectionary Black Lives Matter riots of 2020. The party that sells abortions as “freedom.”
Have you forgotten the BLM riots to glorify the criminal George Floyd, the thug who held a loaded gun to the abdomen of a pregnant woman? Those the leftist riots in his name destroyed Chicago and other cities like Minneapolis. Have you forgotten, even as the national news media wants you to forget? It was Gov. Walz who let Minneapolis burn, and he took days and days to call out the National Guard as his aides worried if the guard was diverse enough to handle the riots.
Remember?

His refusal to call the national guard? What was that? Or the lies he told about his own National Guard service while he abandoned his troops on the eve of war, like some cheap character in a movie like “The Four Feathers”? And what of Harris’ famous Bail fund during the BLM riots as Walz let Minneapolis burn?
If you’re able to, chip in now to the @MNFreedomFundto help post bail for those protesting on the ground in Minnesota. https://t.co/t8LXowKIbw
— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) June 1, 2020

During the Minneapolis BLM riots, Gov. Walz was criticized for being too slow to react, waiting days and days without action as Minneapolis burned to the ground. And his daughter was lit up using social media to tip off the rioters, and his wife opened the windows so she could smell the city burning. Did it smell like victory? Or did it smell like the dreams of the middle class, as their livelihoods and businesses burned?
My question: How did they fiddle as Minnesota burned and why has the media covered them? Answer: Because they and the media are hard left. They despise you.
As Walz wrung his hands, a suspect released with the help of a nonprofit organization operating a Minnesota bail fund endorsed by Vice President Kamala Harris was charged with murder. Shawn Michael Tillman, a repeat felon, shot and killed a passenger on a light rail platform in St. Paul, Minnesota in May after reportedly being released from jail for indecent exposure thanks to the Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF).
I’m reminded that the stark policy differences between Harris Walz and Trump Vance, differences that are just too glaring to brush away; on crime and taxes, regulations, the economy, energy independence, and the border that Biden, Harris and the Democrats have broken, allowing at least 10 million illegals to break into our country, and they’re provided welfare and other benefits courtesy of the American taxpayer.
“The people just won’t stand for it,” said a friend, a former longtime Chicago Daley Democrat now supporting Donald J. Trump. “The people just won’t take it,” he said.
They won’t?
I hope and pray that I’m wrong about this, but I’m not a dealer in Marxist incantations: I am burdened by what has gone before. In the west we call this history.
Think about it for a minute. The media hates conservatives and the middle class. And by the media I mean NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune, even the puppy training paper, the Sun Times, USA Today and the rest. I was among them for decades. I know how they think and what they think about you. They despise you as rubes. I remember now how they covered for the Democrats when the 51 intelligence officials lied and insisted the Hunter Biden laptop was a product of Russian disinformation (it wasn’t). But they got old Joe into the White House even though he was all but senile, to cement Obama’s third term.
And you haven’t forgotten the corporate media insisted that the Russia Collusion scandal was a scandal (it wasn’t) and on and on.
They gave themselves Pulitzer Prizes and other awards. They bragged that they protected the republic and although they’re going broke they’re still selling papers and TV and radio ads for the time being, so they’ll get through the next five, six months, selling the big lie to the American people who don’t want to believe that the corporate media is a racket for chumbolones. They’re running out the clock, just like Harris and Walz, and if they win the election they might show us the other side of their face. If they feel like it.
But by then it’ll be too late. If Democrats win this one, complaining about the First Amendment and how “misinformation” must be crushed out, I don’t think there will be any way to vote ourselves out of it. It’ll be done. They’ll have complete and final institutional control. They insist there’s no going back now, but what they want is to force us into their brave new world without gas powered cars, without gas stoves, where we shut up and forget and do what we’re told. There will be no going back for us from Room 101.
Walz won’t be so fatherly. Harris won’t be our “Mamala.” But she’ll go back to laughing. And she’ll laugh and laugh.

Outside of already conservative voters Kamala has done herself no favors giving a wagon for the very city she’s holding a convention to ride on. There’s been many previous Biden democrats taken under the wing of Trump’s conservative democrat policies that’ll come out to vote against Kamala.

The Marxist stance on the new left’s campaign is not dramatic hyperbole. It is by definition Marxism more specifically neo-Marxism of new school leftism taught within the NYU rich daddy think tanks zoomers are being recruited from.

 

[Breadbassket]

Yeah, Bush is an odd one for me to really gauge. Even people I know that supported him would just say 'damn he sounds like an idiot' a lot. The term 'Bushisms' was all over the place.

Sometimes I think maybe it would be better if presidents just have a single 6 year term, because it sure feels like the US is in constant election mode. Usually when a president leaves he's mostly forgotten shortly. Trump is the one for sure that kept in the news nonstop since 2015. That's a very double edged sword because a lot of people just get sick of hearing about the same person. The only one I think that ever truly got a '4 more years' at the end was Reagan.

I'm just still shocked how Biden is basically done now. He's going to go down like an HW Bush I think, just mostly known for crap economy and doing almost nothing.

It's funny to think that as far as words go, Bushism generally refers to stupid stuff George W. Bush said and Trumpism is seen as a political movement. Perhaps it shows how seriously one man is seen compared to the other in the grand scheme of things.