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[The Ugly One]

Ironically, this was the story of 2016's primary. Two "next guy in line" candidates had failed in a row, and it was time for the GOP to pick a new direction out of the many factions presented by the primary candidates.

Trump steamrolled them all with basic nationalist populism, and the party hasn't come up with a rival ideological faction since. After 8 years, it's just Trump and NeverTrump. I don't know that there is even a meaningful ideological split remaining, other than warmed over neo-cons sliding leftward down the Overton Window, and they don't have the support of the party base any more.

Trumpism is simply the position that the American government should do what's good for Americans first and foremost. The natural antithesis of this is, obviously, that the American government should ignore the interests of Americans and do what's bad for us and good for foreigners. The Democrats have been rather explicit about adopting "Fuck America" the foundation of their party and insisting that wanting what's good for your country is Nazism.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

This is how Tim Walz's wife looks at him vs. how Vance's wife looks at Vance:

this is how white women look at the men they married vs colored women looking at the man they married. its just that simple. also the white woman is in her 60s vs the two lovebirds in their 30s.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

The only one I think that ever truly got a '4 more years' at the end was Reagan

Imagine that happened now? The breathless freakouts and pearl clutching from yr Wonkette, Daily Beast, Morning Joe, and The View? "Deranged Republican Conventiongoers chant to violate the Constitution and Destroy Democracy!"

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Source, nigger. We want a source.

I posted it yesterday, but your circle jerk decided to ignore it.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/07/jd-vance-once-hated-police-attended-pride-supported-gender-affirming-surgery/

This is sort of shit you see from a 20-something normie leaving college into the real world. Not a 40 year old Yale graduate. He's a puppet of Peter Thiel and was told to change his views, and did so on command along with getting a Pajeet beard (how very Christian to marry a Hindu woman in a Hindu ceremony!)

No wonder it's W after W for the left when conservatives defend people like this. The left would never accept a guy who spent the 2010s being full-on MAGA into their club as anything but a token ex-chud.

 

[mlanguishi]

Imagine that happened now? The breathless freakouts and pearl clutching from yr Wonkette, Daily Beast, Morning Joe, and The View? "Deranged Republican Conventiongoers chant to violate the Constitution and Destroy Democracy!"

I noticed how completely pained the Las Vegas crowd was chanting 'USA' even a little seemed and it peters out after a few seconds. It's staggering that even when Dems control the presidency and the Senate, they just can't muster up any energy to be happy. The left always has to be worried about the next 'far right' boogieman and never just settle and think 'we're doing ok as a result of our policies'.

 

[pellegrino31415]

Tim Walz has an interesting Masters Thesis

 

[Halloween23]

Trump is going to lose. I can feel it in my bones. The energy is way off. The meme magic is gone. His posts seem scared and desperate. Unless he comes out and absolutely owns her in the debate, she's going to win.

 

[holyhandgrenade]

Tim Walz has an interesting Masters Thesis

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hell yeah we killed a lot more people before the jews we were just more proficient with them (((according to official statistics))))
suck it kikes

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

Tim Walz has an interesting Masters Thesis

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He was the governor of Minnesota. Chances are half the Africans in his state are hiding from genocide charges.

 

[888Flux]

Trump is going to lose. I can feel it in my bones. The energy is way off. The meme magic is gone. His posts seem scared and desperate. Unless he comes out and absolutely owns her in the debate, she's going to win.

Then buy contracts here:

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and post your position. Even if its $20. Anyone who doesn't do this is yet says "harris is gonna win!!!!" is a shill. If this is what you believe then prove it.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Biden and Bush are two different stories. Biden had all the artificial support, praise ad promotion pulled away from him he was probably used to having and as a result when left to stand on his own in the state he's in the man became a complete afterthought despite holding the position of President of the United States. He was left behind by the side that was supposed to back him.

Bush on the other hand willingly abandoned the base that made him when the wind blew in a direction he wasn't used to. He didn't support Trump in 2016 and he won't support him now. The GOP didn't throw Bush under the bus, he himself abandoned the GOP and does nothing now but paint art and get hollow praise from people who 20 years ago compared him to the Fuhrer of Nazi Germany.

And Biden had the benefit of a pandemic to secure the election

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Tim Walz has an interesting Masters Thesis

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Wtf I love Walz now!

 

[Nuns with guns]

I posted it yesterday, but your circle jerk decided to ignore it.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/07/jd-vance-once-hated-police-attended-pride-supported-gender-affirming-surgery/

This is sort of shit you see from a 20-something normie leaving college into the real world. Not a 40 year old Yale graduate. He's a puppet of Peter Thiel and was told to change his views, and did so on command along with getting a Pajeet beard (how very Christian to marry a Hindu woman in a Hindu ceremony!)

No wonder it's W after W for the left when conservatives defend people like this. The left would never accept a guy who spent the 2010s being full-on MAGA into their club as anything but a token ex-chud.

Vance believed Clown World once and now realizes the truth, which only makes him more based. I know I can relate to that, and probably many other men on this thread as well.

From the article you linked, it reads like he was trying to play it off as being respectful and genuinely curious if the LGBT crowd was right, only to realize now that they're dangerous. I don't see anything wrong with this. Again, many of us can relate going from "live and let live" to "why the fuck do they want to cut off the penis of an 8-year-old?"

 

[Jade Philosophies]

Are these people fucking retarded? For the entirety of history, men have dressed up as women AS A JOKE. Even not too long ago you had Mrs. Doubtfire and Tootsie as gag films. In no way does it mean you support fags or that it’s a fetish. Wearing a wig to a frat party with your five o clock was seen as a funny joke, now you have to call them ma’am.

And doing this is nowhere near supporting “drag,” either. A lot of leftist idiots claim every crossdressing in history (either done as a joke or as a means to access a position, mind you) is retroactively drag. This is not true. Before the 20th century and gay liberation, you didn’t have these over the top demonic sex pests demanding to be taken seriously because they’re pozzed faggots wearing makeup.

I hate how they often drag (no pun intended) Barry Humphries and his Dame Edna Everage into it. Mainly on Twitter. Yes, by definition he was in "drag", although he was not a "drag queen" as so many leftards keep calling him. He was (he died fairly recently) a heterosexual comedian who performed as characters and the character that really took off and became by far his most popular happened to be a female character. Dame Edna Everage. (His only female character as far as I know.) "She" (I'll say she in respect of the character, not because I'm "respecting pronouns") wasn't anything like a drag queen beyond actually being a man and a quite over the top but only in the way that comedians often make their characters over the top. Not in the hideously grotesque way drag queens act. "Her" act sometimes leaned towards the adult side, but not really in that way. Just risque jokes sometimes. "She" sometimes performed on shows with children but in a wholesome way. It was just a funny man playing a woman. No attempt at subverting children sexually or anything like that. I watched "her" since I was a very young child. And finally, and most important in regards this whole conversation, Barry Humphries was totally against all this tranny shit!

No he just needs to hammer her on policy. She's an empty husk of a human being. Pin her to her shitty record mark her embrace her policy of slave labor, open borders, property damage, and gender mutilation.

...then after talking about all the shit she did call her a fucking bitch for doing it and drop the mic.

Its also pretty obvious that conversion for gays also doesn't work currently and won't go anywhere without actual research and a backing if the medical industry to "fix" homosexuals medically.

How is it obvious? And they're trying to heal patients with everything against them. Imagine if the politicians and MSM etc were constantly attacking groups like Alcohol Anonymous and trying to ban them while also doing everything possible to enable alcoholics like throwing Alcoholic Pride Parades where they're getting everybody drunk and also having Alcoholic Pride Month that's pushed by the government, MSM and most companies. Pretty much all the major corporations.
Anyway, watch this video about homosexuality and some of its causes and some talk about treatment. I think you might find it quite educational:

Lets go behind the curtain.
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"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Tim Walz has an interesting Masters Thesis

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He's right.

We're told the holocaust is bad (it was) yet it only mentions 6 million of 15 million who were genocided.
Which is nothing compared to the 20 million Stalin did.
Which is nothing compared to the 35 million (of his own countrymen!) that Mao did.

Hitler was an extermination newfag newb in comparison to other genocide-enjoyers.

I hate how they often drag (no pun intended) Barry Humphries and his Dame Edna Everage into it. Mainly on Twitter.

Honourable mention to Paul O'Grady (lily savage). the cast of Monty Python and Mrs Brown's Boys.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

this is how white women look at the men they married vs colored women looking at the man they married. its just that simple. also the white woman is in her 60s vs the two lovebirds in their 30s.

More and more traditional and conservative men are marrying non-white women.

Gee, I wonder why. Couldn't be because white women have collectively become absolutely detestable and insufferable?

 

[CaddestSlown]

I posted it yesterday, but your circle jerk decided to ignore it.

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2024/07/jd-vance-once-hated-police-attended-pride-supported-gender-affirming-surgery/

This is sort of shit you see from a 20-something normie leaving college into the real world. Not a 40 year old Yale graduate. He's a puppet of Peter Thiel and was told to change his views, and did so on command along with getting a Pajeet beard (how very Christian to marry a Hindu woman in a Hindu ceremony!)

No wonder it's W after W for the left when conservatives defend people like this. The left would never accept a guy who spent the 2010s being full-on MAGA into their club as anything but a token ex-chud.

I checked your post history, you did in fact post this, and it probably got swept up and forgotten after the fact. I'm reading this over as well as the DailyDot article you linked because I did say I wanted those spicy details and I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, fair's fair.

Vance wrote about Nelson in his well-known 2016 memoir Hillbilly Elegy, referring to her as “an extremely progressive lesbian.” When Nelson underwent gender-affirming surgery, Vance wrote to her, “I don’t understand what you’re doing, but I support you.”

So in 2016, the general operational processes of this sort of thing were way less known than they are now, he even admits he doesn't understand what exactly she is talking about.

This period of time is when the LGBTQ+ community had a more pristine public record because things hadn't become too insane yet.

But as one becomes more educated on stupid shit, the more likely they are to oppose it. That link is relatively popular video on the topic released 2019, when things began to tip over into "kill them all," mode.

After 2020, things began to escalate very quickly and reactions to it followed suit. Drag Queen Story hour began in 2015 but the momentum to really shut it down wouldn't happen until much later. Public awareness matters.

In 2014, Vance wrote of the now-deceased anti-LGBTQ+ Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, “He’s become a very shrill old man. I used to really like him, and I used to believe all of his stuff about judicial minimalism was sincere. Now I see it as a political charade.”

In 2014, he's proven to be even more liberal than he was in 2016. All of these things are indicating things he's done from 2014-2016. And in eight years, yes, it does seem like his views on these things changed as he got older and exposed to things he found very unsavory (much like a lot of us here, I imagine.)

Vance replied, “I will always love you, but I really do think the left’s cultural progressivism is making it harder for normal people to live their lives.”

And this just sounds like a man who's torn between a genuine friendship and and ideals he finds genuinely harmful, deciding to put the good of what he believes to be the whole over one person.

And he even explains why his worldview changed regarding shit that might hurt children,

He has been open about the fact that some of his views from a decade ago began to change after becoming a dad and starting a family.

It all checks out. And doesn't really change much, just that his support waned over the years as things became more extreme. This is all relatable, and only makes him look like a normal person. Y'know, growing, changing, adapting and seeing things differently.

I thought, generally speaking, it was known people mellow out and become more conservative as they get older? Usually around age 25 - 28.

The second article you linked, I'll just post the last part:

“It’s within the realm of possibility that I am the reason why he changed his mind about being gay. And, for that, I am not sorry. I’m sorry about Project 2025, but I was not going to take one for the team,” he concludes.

Colby tells the Daily Dot that he was not able to provide any people he contemporaneously told the story to corroborate the story. But that given the circumstances and “embarrassing” nature of the date, adding “I never thought I would see him again.”

But he hopes the data is out there.

I don't entirely trust this Colby guy.

 

[TheRaptorJesus]

Wikipedia removing Vance's medals.

Currently digging through the edit, happened on july 30th.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

We're told the holocaust is bad (it was) yet it only mentions 6 million of 15 million who were genocided.
Which is nothing compared to the 20 million Stalin did.
Which is nothing compared to the 35 million (of his own countrymen!) that Mao did.

Stalin and Mao certainly killed many of their fellow countrymen intentionally or imprisoned them under brutal conditions, but the majority of those who died under them were the result of incompetence or the sheer failures of the Marxist policies that they tried to implement. Hitler intended for all of those people to die.

In the end I suspect it matters little to those who died, regardless of what may have been intended, but I wouldn't try to compare death counts beyond anything but that. Genghis Khan has them all beat, but that was so long ago that no one gets particularly upset about it any more. In time this too will all become little more than a small part of history schoolbooks that little children forget about after the exam.

 

[holyhandgrenade]

Stalin and Mao certainly killed many of their fellow countrymen intentionally or imprisoned them under brutal conditions, but the majority of those who died under them were the result of incompetence or the sheer failures of the Marxist policies that they tried to implement. Hitler intended for all of those people to die.

In the end I suspect it matters little to those who died, regardless of what may have been intended, but I wouldn't try to compare death counts beyond anything but that. Genghis Khan has them all beat, but that was so long ago that no one gets particularly upset about it any more. In time this too will all become little more than a small part of history schoolbooks that little children forget about after the exam.

In the modern era it absolutely matters whether policy decided 10s-100s of thousands/millions would die. Are you retarded?