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This would apply to black people too though wouldnt it? Just more money for shaniqua after pumping out 7 goblins
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Only marginally related- but what happened to people's positions on these betting sites after the Democrats swapped candidates? Did the #RidinWithBiden bros essentially get scammed (twice)?
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I'm assuming the proposition is more complicated than simply giving someone $5000 every time they have a kid
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Next up, a picture of Vance eating pizza with his HANDS!!
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Pizza is Italian, you're supposed to use chopsticks
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I used to exclusively date black women and the ones who took their cues from social media were no different than the cunty white women.
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nah, they were the original JK Rowling/TERFS, outside of a hatred of gays they were extremely generic libs. There's a super old interview with either Phelps daughter from a neo-nazi podcast back in 2006 and she blatantly sticks up for minorities and jews and outside of not being a fan of the iraq war and gays were completely normal people who also were into jesus. She enjoyed network tv and going to sportsball games like everyone else, but the trannies really went after them hard.
Same way JK Rowling is pretty normie-left outside of hating one part of the LGBTQ+ and that means she's the new satan as far as the western world is concerned. The fact that 15 years later literally everyone who's a colonel or higher agrees with WBC on how stupid and faggy the troops are should tell you how attacked they were for nothing.
You're mostly right, but i still believe their intentions were pure. They have more in common with JK Rowling than hitler, and were mainly used as a punching bag because of it. If i can find it i;ll upload it but literally any non-malicious interview from the 2000s will show they're not PatriotFront level bullshit, if you take the gay part out of it they were actually hilariously liberal, especially for where they lived. As for "who's funding them" They all still worked as lawyers and it was hilariously cheap to travel "across the country" back then. Like i'm sure a car full of people going to a funeral would cost less than $200 even if they were going halfway across the country.
Literally think of how the media talks about JK Rowling or Johnny Depp today and realize it was basically the same thing 20 years ago, only the internet was so hilariously left and so niche that the boomers in charge of the church wouldn't have been able to spread the word about their real beliefs.
i'd just announce we are stopping cost of living raises and make it a law, if Trump did that back in 2019 we'd be saving 50% on SSI payments right now. And that's just 5 years with one part, doing the same for food stamps or redefining the requirements for SNAP or Medicaid/are would be another nail in the coffin.
Its like how it used to be just federal student loans were enough for most people who went to college, and were very easy to pay back to now relying on private student loans that actively fuck over people for the rest of their lives. You're starting to see a lot of this already with Medicare part C, a majority of medicare recipients need a private supplement, because 20 years ago they decided to fuck over the elderly. It also lowers the reactionary factor doing it this way because by just making the welfare so useless you aren't necessarily taking it away so there's no way for people to whine about it. You're not an evil miser taking from the poor, the programs are still there. they just barely work well anymore like the ice cream machines at a mcdonalds
i'll explain that away by people who got into religion because of the 12 step program (like W) who replaced their jonesing for a substance with a fervor to get everyone on god's path. Its like how only weirdos seem to really need Jordan Peterson's advice about cleaning their room and ultimately hurting the cause. Meanwhile Dimes Square has done more to help make Christianity cool and atheists seem like losers just by not sperging and treating trannies and socialists with the same dead eyed sardonic jokes they used to give to religious nutcases.
the religious right would have done a lot more good if they presented themselves as too good for tv and mocked the simpsons as something for losers rather than demanding it be removed.
the white woman in our example was literally born in the 60s, plenty of women of all ages have sucked, its just a combination of "no where else to go" that forced them to settle for losers like Timmy and society actively fucking over women that really forced them to be a lot nicer in the "good old days". I'm sure she faked a smile all the time when the only way to have access to a bank account or a credit card was marrying losers like Timmy. Also not all women are like that, but its certainly a big proportion of them, its a lot like having kids, women of all ages didn't want to have kids but society was a lot more heavy about it being a social norm. its a big reason why its what the evil aliens are brainwashing people to do in They Live. Also how people think of families, its a lot easier to not have to worry about your kids and treat them more like younger siblings or pets when society isn't that focused on demanding stuff out of the parents. Ask anyone raised in the 70s, parents would leave kids in the car to go to the bar. As much as people like to whine about "stranger danger" being bullshit, with how normalized neglecting your kids was, there's a reason the 80s were all about not treating your kids worse than the average pet owner in the 20s treats their dogs.
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I was probably annoyed at you acting like a retard and scrolled by it, apologies.
The TL;DR is that he had a tranny friend and in all of their conversations, the worst things are
He thought Trump was a racist in 2015
He's soft on fags (the only proof is that he had a tranny fag friend to leak this)
He doesn't like the confederate flag.
He walked past a pride parade and didn't vomit immediately as is appropriate.
Really the only damning thing is him having a tranny friend in the first place.
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First, all of this is couched in the "He told me this, I swear" with no original documents posted leaked by a pissed off troon. I don't really have an opinion on if it's real or not personally, but there's no proof provided other than that the source defiantly knew Vance at Yale well enough to get this signature on Hillbilly Elegy.
"To Sofia- A good friend & fellow midwesterner, and - despite being a godless liberal - a great peson
So, the source is probably his friend and the "super progressive lesbian" that is mentioned for a line in the book as purported. Now everything else is apple screenshots and images of text in a text editor, so that's not really proof, but we'll roll with it for now.
First claim is a quote from the tranny.
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I'd post more images, but I had to convert the one above from .webp and it's annoying... the next attributed quote is a screenshot of an email, supposedly, but clearly just text in an editor to make a pretty screenshot. Vance apologizes or something for calling the tranny ultra-progressive in his book. A literally nothing.
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Fair enough. I kinda hate the police now, and like body cameras. Him falling into the "cops are harder on blacks" thing is slightly annoying, but not huge. It's also funny how NYT capitalizes "black " when they quote him, but the purported original text doesn't. Until I saw the screenshot I thought it was originally like that and that WOULD be troubling to me.
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Suggesting Trump might be racist, but agreeing with his policies. He's obviously turned around on the "Trump is racist" thing or is willing to overlook it to put in place the policies he DOES agree with. Was he taken in by the media? Is it gamesmanship because he thought Trump was a losing horse? He never mentions Mexicans and the border in the quotes I see, just Muslims. So he might be soft on them, and TBF, we've not had any big problems with them recently.
I'm just seeing him being the R party line guy in one of the crazier primary seasons in a long while (the conversation is in 2015). Not great, but it's before he held office, so it's the safe thing to do.
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The final claim is a message that caused the tranny to turn on him like a cur dog, hopefully a lesson learned and is him saying he supports Arkansas banning trans surgeries.
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First, all of this is couched in the "He told me this, I swear" with no original documents posted leaked by a pissed off troon. I don't really have an opinion on if it's real or not personally, but there's no proof provided other than that the source defiantly knew Vance at Yale well enough to get this signature on Hillbilly Elegy.
"To Sofia- A good friend & fellow midwesterner, and - despite being a godless liberal - a great pesonSo, the source is probably his friend and the "super progressive lesbian" that is mentioned for a line in the book as purported. Now everything else is apple screenshots and images of text in a text editor, so that's not really proof, but we'll roll with it for now.
First claim is a quote from the tranny.
Cool, so that was when he was ay Yale, so 2013 before trannies were culturally known. I would've considered it a reasonable response then, personally, but I was more liberal back then.
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I'd post more images, but I had to convert the one above from .webp and it's annoying... the next attributed quote is a screenshot of an email, supposedly, but clearly just text in an editor to make a pretty screenshot. Vance apologizes or something for calling the tranny ultra-progressive in his book. A literally nothing.
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Ok, a claim from a former friend who is politically opposed to him claiming he's a power seeker and claims a shift in opinions from his book. I read his book a few weeks ago and fail to see the incompatibility. An opinion about him.
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Sounds like something you say back to a friend you disagree with. Notice there's no accusations from Vance on Scalia being homophobic, just that he thinks Scalia is politically motivated, not judicially motivated.
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I'll admit I don't like that, but he's a Yankee, so fuck him and his opinions on the flag. Also the quote is really chopped up, so who knows what else was said in mitigation.
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Mildest praise possible. A nothingburger
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Suggesting Trump might be racist, but agreeing with his policies. He's obviously turned around on the "Trump is racist" thing or is willing to overlook it to put in place the policies he DOES agree with. Was he taken in by the media? Is it gamesmanship because he thought Trump was a losing horse? He never mentions Mexicans and the border in the quotes I see, just Muslims. So he might be soft on them, and TBF, we've not had any big problems with them recently.
I'm just seeing him being the R party line guy in one of the crazier primary seasons in a long while (the conversation is in 2015). Not great, but it's before he held office, so it's the safe thing to do.
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Hating on the establishment, a good thing.
Lots of people felt like this about Trump and were wrong. Possibly buying media bullshit. He was currently living in Washington elite circles. so it's understandable, if stupid.
The final claim is a message that caused the tranny to turn on him like a cur dog, hopefully a lesson learned and is him saying he supports Arkansas banning trans surgeries.
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Well if that is the logic that gets them off the hook, you should read up on the Allies bombing supply lines to the German camps, and revise some numbers accordingly. We'll forgive you for deciding Adolf gets a bad rap, but I wouldn't recommend posting your findings to mainstream sites.
Are we allowed to point that out outside of the designated thread?
More seriously: a normie conservative would wax poetic about the importance of culture, not race, and suggest men are marrying the women who stick to a more traditional culture. A reactionary right-winger would point out normie conservatives became decracinated over the last 40 years (which is true whether you consider that a good thing or bad thing). That opens up the side which traditionally had fewer interracial marriages to a catching-up effect.
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Stalin and Mao allowed those people to die - the ones who were meant to be protected by their leader, because they simply didn't give a fuck, they were callous.
Hitler genocided because he believed it was the way to save 100's of million of lives. While equally callous in nature, he at least believed he did it for what he believed was a better future for his people.
There's no justice for those who died, nor those who suffered. Hitler is not the same as Stalin and Mao. The former did bad for 'good' reasons. The latter did it because they could.
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He was a lawtroll. His MO was to do awful shit, get attacked, and sue. That's it.
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In Judi Agustin’s freshman year at Mankato West High School, her teacher instructed her to wear a yellow star.
It was part of a Holocaust curriculum at the school, located in a remote area of Minnesota with barely any Jews. For a week, freshmen were asked to wear the yellow stars, which were reminiscent of the ones the Nazis made the Jews wear. Seniors played the part of the Gestapo, charged with persecuting the “Jews.”
Unlike everyone else in her class in the 2001-2002 school year, Agustin was Jewish. The experience “was incredibly hurtful and offensive and scary,” she recalled on Tuesday. Her father complained to the district, and wrote a letter to the local paper decrying the lesson.
In response, she recalled, a teacher intervened. That teacher, according to her recollection: current vice presidential nominee Tim Walz.
“When Tim Walz found out about it, he squashed it real quick, and as far as I understand they never did it again,” Agustin told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency. “So he was an advocate for my experience, as one of four Jewish kids in the entire school district. And I always felt like he had our back.”
A progressive favorite in Minnesota, where he is now governor, Walz is also heralded for his background as a public school educator. Lesser known is the fact that, while teaching in rural, largely white Midwestern school districts, Walz developed a particular interest in Holocaust and genocide education.
Walz is on the campaign trail this week with Vice President Kamala Harris, his running mate, and did not immediately respond to a request for comment. JTA could not independently verify that he was the teacher who stopped the Mankato West lesson.
But it’s clear that how to teach the Holocaust well has occupied Walz for decades. In 1993, while teaching in Nebraska, he was part of an inaugural conference of U.S. educators convened by the soon-to-open U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. Eight years later, after moving to Minnesota, he wrote a thesis arguing for changes in Holocaust education. And as governor, he backed a push to mandate teaching about the Holocaust in Minnesota schools.
Through it all, Walz modeled and argued for careful instruction that treated the Holocaust as one of multiple genocides worth understanding.
“Schools are teaching about the Jewish Holocaust, but the way it is traditionally being taught is not leading to increased knowledge of the causes of genocide in all parts of the world,” Walz wrote in his thesis, submitted in 2001.
The thesis was the culmination of Walz’s master’s degree focused on Holocaust and genocide education at Minnesota State University, Mankato, which he earned while teaching at Mankato West. His 27-page thesis, which JTA obtained, is titled “Improving Human Rights and Genocide Studies in the American High School Classroom.”
In it, Walz argues that the lessons of the “Jewish Holocaust” should be taught “in the greater context of human rights abuses,” rather than as a unique historical anomaly or as part of a larger unit on World War II. “To exclude other acts of genocide severely limited students’ ability to synthesize the lessons of the Holocaust and the ability to apply them elsewhere,” he wrote.
He then took a position that he noted was “controversial” among Holocaust scholars: that the Holocaust should not be taught as unique, but used to help students identify “clear patterns” with other historical genocides like the Armenian and Rwandan genocides.
Walz was describing, in effect, his own approach to teaching the Holocaust that he implemented in Alliance, Nebraska, years earlier. In the state’s remote northwest region, Walz asked his global geography class to study the common factors that linked the Holocaust to other historical genocides, including economic strife, totalitarian ideology and colonialism. The year was 1993. At year’s end, Walz and his class correctly predicted that Rwanda was most at risk of sliding into genocide.
“The Holocaust is taught too often purely as a historical event, an anomaly, a moment in time,” Walz Told the New York Times in 2008, reflecting on those Alliance lessons. “That relieves us of responsibility. Obviously, the mastermind was sociopathic, but on the scale for it to happen, there had to be a lot of people in the country who chose to go down that path.”
In his thesis, he noted that he intended to bring this curriculum to the Mankato school district as a “sample unit.” But another kind of lesson was unfolding there at the same time.
For years at Mankato West, high school students had been engaged in a peculiar lesson that was, all the same, not unusual for its time: In an effort to teach students who had never met a Jewish person what it might have been like to live under the Nazis, teachers had them role play.
For a week, freshmen wore the yellow stars, and seniors playing the Gestapo were given permission to torment them.
Such lessons had been going on since at least the 1990s, recalled Leah Solo, a Jewish student who graduated from Mankato West in 1998. For Solo, these lessons weren’t so bad.
“People knew I was Jewish, people knew to be sensitive around me,” Solo told JTA. Her teacher, who was not Walz and whom she liked, “was doing his best to try to teach a really hard subject to folks who had no idea. Most of these kids had never met a Jew before.” In her senior year she was given the choice of whether she wanted to play a Nazi or another kind of role, and chose the latter.
Things were different by the time Agustin took the class several years later. By then, the Holocaust role-playing wasn’t just limited to the confines of the classroom.
“They could come up to you in the lunchroom,” recalled Anne Heintz, a fellow student at the time. Local students whispered about the lesson before they got to high school, she said.
One senior, in Agustin’s recollection, got violent and started shoving the “Jewish” freshmen into lockers.
Outraged, her father wrote a letter to the local newspaper, and some parents complained to the school district. Agustin left the high school after her sophomore year. None of this happened in Walz’s classroom, according to the students, and Heintz recalled that the lessons had ended by the time she graduated in 2004.
“I’m not sure what his involvement was. I know it just ended,” Heintz, who is not Jewish, told JTA. “He was teaching at the time it ended.”
JTA could not verify whether Walz knew about the lessons, which had been going on for years, before they were stopped. A spokesperson for the high school told JTA they “don’t have any information” on the details of the lessons, but noted, “When Governor Walz was at Mankato West High School he was primarily a Global Geography Teacher and Football Coach. Subjects such as the Holocaust were taught in history courses.”
Agustin’s father, Stewart Ross, told JTA that he did not recall Walz being involved. Neither did Bob Ihrig, one of the teachers who taught the lesson as part of a World War II unit. He said it continued in a limited, classroom-only version until his retirement in 2014.
Ross, Ihrig and all three Mankato West High students spoke highly of Walz as a teacher and community leader, though only one, Heintz, actually had him in the classroom.
“What I remember most is, he always made all the subjects that we talked about super engaging,” she said. “It always seemed like he was able to make a subject really exciting for folks and really engage everyone in class. And I think that is part of how he speaks now that he’s on a national stage as well.”
Solo, who had Walz’s wife Gwen for a different class, took a student trip led by the couple to China, where Tim Walz taught for a year early in his career. She recalled how, in 2004, Walz stood up for her when she was working with John Kerry’s presidential campaign and security for a George W. Bush rally tried to boot them from the premises.
“When security also tried to kick him out, he was like, ‘I am a former Teacher of the Year who just returned from being deployed. I don’t think you want to kick me out,’” Solo recalled, describing an incident that made local news at the time. “And then after the rally, he came and signed up to volunteer with the Kerry campaign, because he did not appreciate that.”
Volunteering with Kerry’s campaign led directly to Walz’s entrance into politics. Solo would go on to work for Walz’s congressional campaigns.
Walz stuck with teaching as he began his political career; when he was elected to represent Mankato in 2006, he was the only active educator in Congress.
Last year, as Minnesota’s governor, Walz returned to Holocaust education, and supported and signed a law requiring the state’s middle and high schools to teach about the Holocaust. The law, initiated and championed by the Jewish Community Relations Council of Minnesota and the Dakotas, also encourages schools to teach about other genocides. A working group for the curriculum hit snags earlier this summer when a pro-Palestinian activist was removed from the committee amid debates on whether Israel’s conduct in Gaza constitutes genocide.
The mandate is still anticipated to go into effect in the 2025-2026 school year. “This is going to work out, this is going to be good, because the governor and his staff are highly attuned to the concerns and sensitivities of the Jewish community,” Ethan Roberts, the JCRC’s deputy executive director, told JTA.
Speaking at a JCRC event in June, Walz said he had been “privileged and proud” to have participated in the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum training early in his career. But he said more needed to be done, and he emphasized that the curriculum chosen to accomplish the requirement would determine its success.
“We need to do better on Holocaust education. We need to do better on ethnic studies,” he told the crowd. “And I tell you this as a teacher and as governor, too, we don’t need test scores or anything to tell us that we’re failing.”
It was the kind of message that former Mankato West students said they came to expect from him.
“He is what you hope a great teacher is,” said Solo, “which is someone who’s not only teaching, but also learning at all times.”
With additional reporting by Jackie Hajdenberg.
Correction and updates (Aug.: This story has been corrected to remove a reference to Tim Walz as department chair. It has also been updated to reflect additional sources about Holocaust instruction at Mankato West High School.
Go read The Holocaust: An Introduction by Thomas Dalton.
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I assume they just lost. I mean, they're not 2 way races on the betting sites, you could have picked Kamala when Biden was still the presumptive nominee.
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that's sorta like the idea of Werner Von Braun
is it worse if he was gung-ho on his rockets killed a shitload of enemies of the Fatherland, or if he was "vunz da roketz go up, who carez ver dey kum daun?" and just wanted to build his toys and had no concerns about if or who they were killing
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"Zat's not my department," says Werner Von Braun.
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Love me some Tom Lehrer!
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a rousing uplifting song
en CHerman
or english!
I know how to count down!
und I'm learning Chinese...
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He's still alive and nothing made me happier than him outliving Henry Kissinger.
He also invented the Jello shot. It was a way to get around base regulations on alcohol when he served in the US Army (specifically the NSA).
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