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Does Donny have a chance in 2024?

  • Absolutely, tremendously. Sleepy Joe is already losing and ballots are Chinese

    Votes: 1,650 29.4%
  • I am trusting the plan with every fiber of my being. I hurt with how hard I trust the plan.

    Votes: 604 10.8%
  • У меня аутизм, пожалуйста, смейся надо мной

    Votes: 1,410 25.1%
  • Slow down CornPop, Joe's already got the oval office chair just right. He's staying.

    Votes: 792 14.1%
  • JEB!

    Votes: 2,418 43.1%
  • He did, until Kamala took Biden’s place

    Votes: 185 3.3%

  • Total voters
    5,608
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Crying about NY Times polls

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The New York Times ran a longform article over the weekend about how his campaign has been a dumpster fire. I think they clearly hit a nerve with it. I'll put it under a spoiler tag for those who want to read it.


Inside the Worst Three Weeks of Donald Trump’s 2024 Campaign​

People around the former and would-be president see a candidate knocked off his bearings, disoriented by his new contest with Kamala Harris and unsure of how to take her on.

The Aug. 2 dinner at the Bridgehampton, N.Y., home of Howard Lutnick, the Cantor Fitzgerald chief executive, was a high-powered affair. Among the roughly 130 people who dined under an air-conditioned tent were some of Donald Trump’s wealthiest supporters, including the billionaire hedge-fund financier Bill Ackman, who sat next to the former president, and Omeed Malik, the president of another fund, 1789 Capital.

Some guests hoped Mr. Trump would signal that he was recalibrating after a series of damaging mistakes. He did not.

Before the dinner, answering a question that voiced concerns about the upcoming election during a small round-table discussion inside Mr. Lutnick’s house, Mr. Trump said, “We’ve got to stop the steal,” reviving yet again his false claims about the 2020 election — claims that his advisers have urged him to drop because they don’t help him with swing voters.

According to two people present, Mr. Trump himself also brought up his remark, made two days earlier at a gathering of the National Association of Black Journalists, in which he had questioned Vice President Kamala Harris’s racial identity.

It had been a display of flagrant race-baiting that was egregious even by Mr. Trump’s standards, and it instantly reprogrammed America’s TV news chyrons: He falsely claimed that Ms. Harris had only recently decided to identify as Black for political purposes.

But Mr. Trump showed no regret. “I think I was right,” he told the rattled donors that Friday night.

Later, at dinner under the tent, Harrison LeFrak, the scion of a New York real-estate family, whose father is an old friend of Mr. Trump’s, asked how Mr. Trump planned to take the narrative back from Democrats, and what his positive vision for the country would be. It appeared to be a request for reassurance.

Mr. Trump provided none. Instead, he criticized Ms. Harris on a range of fronts, before adding: “I am who I am.”

The fund-raiser came amid a stretch of flailing and self-harm that began after President Biden’s July 21 withdrawal from the race and endorsement of Ms. Harris to succeed him. Close Trump allies have described this as the rockiest period of Mr. Trump’s campaign — and easily the worst since a late 2022 spree in which he mused about terminating parts of the Constitution and dined at Mar-a-Lago with a white supremacist and an outspoken antisemite.

Since then, Mr. Trump has picked fights with allies publicly and privately, including a broadside against Gov. Brian Kemp of Georgia at an Atlanta rally — the kind of meanspirited public attack on a popular Republican that his own allies believe helped sink two Senate races in Georgia in January 2021 and could harm Mr. Trump in the state, a vital battleground in November.

This story is based on interviews with more than a dozen people close to Mr. Trump, nearly all of whom insisted on anonymity to describe private discussions and events.

As Ms. Harris — long ridiculed and underestimated — has transformed the contest, campaigning energetically and drawing roughly even with Mr. Trump in many polls, Mr. Trump has responded with one unforced error after another while struggling to land on an effective and consistent argument against her.

He has found the change disorienting, those who interact with him say. Mr. Trump had grown comfortable campaigning against an 81-year-old incumbent who struggled to navigate stairs, thoughts and sentences. Suddenly, he finds himself in a race against a Black woman nearly 20 years younger, one who has already made history and who is drawing large and excited crowds.

The people around Mr. Trump see a candidate knocked off his bearings, nothing like the man who reclined serenely on July 15 as he watched as thousands of delegates cheered him on the first night of the Republican National Convention. Then, Mr. Trump, his ear bandaged, was a living martyr after the assassination attempt two days before. Inside the Milwaukee arena, the Democrats had already been defeated; the only thing left to wonder about was the margin of Mr. Trump’s victory.

In a statement in response to the reporting for this story, a spokesman, Brian Hughes, said that Mr. Trump “continues to run a winning campaign and has built a movement focused on making our nation great again.” Another spokesman, Steven Cheung, insisted Mr. Trump had put forward a “positive” vision for the country that contrasted with “the dangerously liberal policies” of Mr. Biden and Ms. Harris.

But to Mr. Trump’s close allies, that first night in Milwaukee now seems a foggy memory, as if it never happened.

A foul mood​

At the Aug. 2 dinner, Mr. Trump told donors that the news media had been incorrectly suggesting that he had mellowed since the assassination attempt. “I’m not nicer,” he said, according to one person in attendance.

Another said Mr. Trump described himself as “angry,” because “they” — unspecified adversaries that the attendee took to mean Democrats — had first tried to bankrupt him and then to kill him.

Indeed, Mr. Trump has often been in a foul mood the past few weeks. He has ranted about Ms. Harris. He has called her “nasty,” on “Fox & Friends,” and a “bitch,” repeatedly, in private, according to two people who heard the remark on different occasions. (“That is not language President Trump has used to describe Kamala, and it’s not how the campaign would characterize her,” Mr. Cheung said.)

His quickness to anger has left him susceptible to manipulation, even among close allies.

A week before the Hamptons fund-raiser, on July 25, Mr. Trump stunned one of his wealthiest patrons, Miriam Adelson, the widow of the casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, by having an aide, Natalie Harp, fire off a series of angry text messages to Mrs. Adelson in Mr. Trump’s name, according to three people with knowledge of what took place.

The texts were particularly jarring because Mrs. Adelson and Mr. Trump had a friendly meeting just a week earlier at the Republican National Convention, according to a person briefed on the matter.

The texts complained about the people running Mrs. Adelson’s super PAC, Preserve America, into which she is pouring millions of dollars to support Mr. Trump.

At the time, Preserve America was spending nearly $18 million on a week’s worth of ads aiding Mr. Trump in three battleground states. The texts said that the officials running Preserve America were “RINOs” — Republicans in name only — and that Mrs. Adelson’s late husband would never have tolerated that, the people said.

According to two of the people, aides to Mrs. Adelson later discovered that the outburst against her had been encouraged by another major Trump donor, Ike Perlmutter, the former chairman of Marvel Entertainment, who had hoped in vain that Mrs. Adelson would contribute to a rival super PAC that he backs. (A lawyer for Mr. Perlmutter did not respond to an email seeking comment, and an adviser to Mrs. Adelson, Andy Abboud, declined to comment.)

The text messages prompted concerns — as yet unrealized — that Mrs. Adelson might scale back her support of Mr. Trump.

Over the past two weeks, Mr. Trump has fielded complaints from donors about his running mate, JD Vance, as news coverage exploring Mr. Vance’s past statements unearthed — and then exhaustively critiqued — remarks including a lament that America was run by “childless cat ladies.”

Mr. Trump dismissed out of hand donors’ suggestions that he replace Mr. Vance on the ticket. But Mr. Trump privately asked his advisers whether they had known about Mr. Vance’s comments about childless women before Mr. Trump chose him.

And, at the Aug. 2 fund-raiser, according to two people with knowledge of what took place, when a donor at the round-table discussion asked about Democrats trying to paint the Republican ticket as “weird,” Mr. Trump replied: “Not about me. They’re saying that about JD.”

Mr. Trump didn’t reveal any loss of confidence in Mr. Vance. Rather, he offered him simple advice: Attack, attack, attack. And Mr. Trump has been impressed over the past week as Mr. Vance attacked Ms. Harris and her new running mate, Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota, on the campaign trail — praising him and taking credit for scouting him, according to two people who have spoken to Mr. Trump. They said Mr. Trump had described Mr. Vance as a great political “athlete.”

Whipsawed by events​

Mr. Trump deals more in projection than subtext, and his recent posts on Truth Social reveal how blindsided he feels about the upturned election.

Despite his public insistence that he would rather face Ms. Harris than Mr. Biden, those close to him say that is untrue. He had been on a glide path to an all but certain victory. Now, he needs to work for it.

But Mr. Trump has also been whipsawed by a seven-week roller-coaster-ride of events: an attempt on his life, the selection of a running mate, a nominating convention, his opponent’s withdrawal from the race, the entry of a galvanizing new rival, a potential Iranian assassination threat against him and new layers of security that have brought a bunker-like feel to his properties, more than at any time since he was in the White House.

Also unsettling to him: For the first time in Mr. Trump’s political life, his opponent has received more sustained news coverage than he has, beating him at the game of “earned media,” the kind that costs campaigns nothing to produce.

Moreover, the coverage of Ms. Harris has overwhelmingly been positive.

Ms. Harris “has gotten the equivalent of the largest in-kind contribution of free media I think I have ever seen in all the years I’ve been doing presidential campaigns,” said Tony Fabrizio, the Trump campaign’s chief pollster.

Mr. Trump has seemed to want to wish his new situation away. He claimed on Truth Social, without evidence, that Mr. Biden regretted his decision to drop out and wanted to undo it. He has talked repeatedly about how badly he thinks Democrats mistreated Mr. Biden. He has complained about how unfair it is that he’s had to start the race over again. He has vented about wasting time, energy and millions of dollars on Mr. Biden only to find himself facing a new opponent for the final 100-day sprint.

And Mr. Trump told one aide that Democrats were trying to “steal” the election again from him — comparing the reshuffling of the Democratic ticket to when state legislatures changed voting rules midway through the 2020 election cycle because of the Covid pandemic.

He has also peppered his advisers with questions about whether Ms. Harris can sustain her momentum, constantly asking what new polling shows.

Soon after Ms. Harris replaced Mr. Biden atop the Democratic ticket, Mr. Fabrizio, the Trump pollster, stressed to the campaign staff that the polls would get worse before they got better. Mr. Fabrizio has insisted, though, that the race has not fundamentally changed, that once voters are educated about Ms. Harris’s liberal record on crime and her role in Mr. Biden’s unpopular policies — especially on immigration — they will sour on her.

Mr. Fabrizio has predicted to campaign colleagues that Ms. Harris will have another two to three good weeks, through the Democratic National Convention, and then her poll numbers will turn in the other direction.

Others are more concerned about what they are seeing in private polling. Two private polls conducted in Ohio recently by Republican pollsters — which Mr. Trump carried in 2020 with 53 percent of the vote — showed him receiving less than 50 percent of the vote against Ms. Harris in the state, according to a person with direct knowledge of the data.

Struggling to frame the attack​

Nearly three weeks since she became his Democratic opponent, Mr. Trump and his campaign are still struggling to settle on how to define Ms. Harris, what message with which to attack her, and even what nickname with which to belittle her.

He initially called her “Laffin’ Kamala,” mocking her laugh, before cycling through other epithets, including “Crooked,” an insult he had used against both Hillary Clinton and Mr. Biden. Lately, he has favored “Crazy Kamala.”

His advisers have gone to great lengths testing policy-based attacks to see which work best with voters in the battleground states. They have privately described having so much material against Ms. Harris — from interviews to policy statements to her record as a prosecutor — that condensing it all into a specific frame can feel like a challenge.

Yet most of Mr. Trump’s top advisers have urged the campaign and the candidate to focus on the economy, immigration and crime — issues on which Mr. Trump’s message resonates powerfully with the so-called persuadable voters they are targeting.

Sometimes, Mr. Trump has done so. Other times, he has not.

His advisers have urged Mr. Trump to portray Ms. Harris as someone who frequently changes her positions, some of them recalling how successfully President George W. Bush used that strategy against John Kerry in the 2004 presidential race.

Mr. Trump has called her “fake” — but in self-defeating ways, like questioning whether Ms. Harris, who is Black, is Black.

Outside advisers and allies have also called Mr. Trump to impress on him the political peril of continuing with those kinds of attacks. Kellyanne Conway, who managed his 2016 campaign, recently told Mr. Trump to stick to policy contrasts, rather than personal attacks, and to treat Ms. Harris as a formidable adversary, as he had Mrs. Clinton.

That advice has gone unheeded. At his news conference on Thursday in Palm Beach, Fla., Mr. Trump again attacked Ms. Harris as “nasty,” denigrated her intellect and said she was “very disrespectful” to both her Black and Indian heritages.

Mr. Trump’s mood improved a little in recent days, people who have spoken with him said, after Ms. Harris named Mr. Walz her running mate. He had become convinced that she would choose Gov. Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania, and that Mr. Shapiro could help her carry a must-win state. On “Fox and Friends,” Mr. Trump called Mr. Walz “a shocking pick,” adding, “I could not be more thrilled.”

Griping about circumstances, but not staff​

Summertime has been a challenging season for Mr. Trump in election years: In June and again in August of 2016, he replaced his campaign leadership. In July 2020, he fired his campaign manager.

However, changes to his team do not now appear likely; Mr. Trump has privately expressed faith in his top advisers, even as he gripes about his current circumstances.

On Aug. 2, before the Hamptons fund-raiser, Mr. Trump met at his club in Bedminster, N.J., with his daughter-in-law, Lara Trump, whom he had installed as a co-chair of the Republican National Committee, and with Ms. Conway, according to three people with knowledge of the meeting. Ms. Trump, reached by phone, said there was no discussion of replacing any senior aides. Ms. Conway declined to detail her conversation with Mr. Trump, but also said she had not discussed any personnel by name, saying she was there instead to discuss policy, strategy and how to beat his new, female rival.

In an angry phone call to a Times reporter on Friday afternoon, Mr. Trump denied that he was making any changes to his team, saying he was “thrilled” with his top advisers, Susie Wiles and Chris LaCivita, and asking why he would even want to make such a change.

(In the same call, Mr. Trump threatened to sue The Times over a story about his description in Thursday’s news conference of a near-death experience on a helicopter ride with Willie Brown, the former California politician. Mr. Brown denied ever having flown on a helicopter with Mr. Trump.)

Mr. Trump’s own behavior remains one of the most unpredictable factors in his campaign.

And after years of holding only a few rallies a month and still managing to play plenty of golf, while Mr. Biden held very few campaign events, Mr. Trump now has an opponent who is outworking him politically.

Perhaps the clearest indication that Mr. Trump’s knack for forcing the public discussion to take place on his terms was failing him came a week ago, when he abruptly declared in a midnight social media post that a debate on ABC News, to which he had agreed when Mr. Biden was running, was now “terminated” and that he would only debate Ms. Harris on the more hospitable terrain of Fox News.

Mr. Trump was widely mocked as fearing a confrontation with Ms. Harris.

On Thursday, he reversed himself, declaring in his news conference that he would, indeed, show up for the ABC debate — and proposing two others.
 
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Trumps VP pick JD Vance has been outed as a troon.
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Well, this isn’t good. Even if it’s “lol college bro” shit, trump’s fan base isn’t going to like it. I think trump will try to deflect anything having to do with Vance with “that’s him; not me”. He already said that to reports when they ask about people calling him (and other republicans) weird.
 
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Well, this isn’t good. Even if it’s “lol college bro” shit, trump’s fan base isn’t going to like it. I think trump will try to deflect anything having to do with Vance with “that’s him; not me”. He already said that to reports when they ask about people calling him (and other republicans) weird.
They will probably ignore it by immense cognitive dissonance and MAGA cope. It;ll be along the lines of "libtards love drag, so they can't make fun of the loveseat lover being a mimsy"
 
Is a targeted strike on one guy on a third rate power and turning a PMC into ingredients outside Russian territory really the same thing?

Putin would have done his """Special Military Operation""", there just wouldn't have been effective NATO measures against it. He'd have walked in.
I’m sorry but what? Half the reason why Ukraine is able to put up a decent fight is because the US under Trump went turbo mode in terms of arming and training them after Obama basically left them out to dry.
Vance really isn't helping the "closet fag" rumors fade away.
There's a big difference between a missile attack on a 2nd world country's general and a mercenary team that is operating in a third world country and bombing Russia's largest city. Bombing Moscow would certainly lead to war, perhaps nuclear. Trump wouldn't have even done that, he's just a paper tiger that a bunch of intellectually disabled beta male simpletons worship
I mean you're the guy who claimed that it was "lucky" that Iran didn't retaliate against the US for icing Soleimani so now it's not a big deal because Iran isn't a serious threat?

Trump's threats work because one can genuinely believe he'd send the US army to fuck you up or give allies the big guns to do it for him at least. Nobody believed Biden or Harris when they claimed totally legit and serious consequences for Russia invading Ukraine.
 
May God have mercy on us all. Do I even want to know the context behind this image?
The photo reeks of the 2000s emo shit but that could be even more damaging to the boomers that vote for him than being in drag. If this really is him, then claim it was a humiliation ritual. Turn it into a sob story about the leftist elites and hope for the best
 
Crying about NY Times polls

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He's right for the wrong reasons. The New York Times is quickly becoming the American equivalent of the Daily Mail given how heavily it's been entrenched in horse-race punditry.
It's so funny, had this been a picture of Tim Walz, Pete Buttigieg, or any Democrat politician, the Right would invest every single one of their resources to ruining their lives forever and using it to fearmonger about how Kamala Harris is going to troon out their kids.
 
I wouldn’t put it past Trump to think that he needs a personal security guard made up of “loyal, MAGA-loving patriots” and sincerely not recognize that it would make it look like he’s creating a paramilitary organization.

“You fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?”

“Which generals?” Kelly asked.

“The German generals in World War II,” Trump responded.

“You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?” Kelly said.

But, of course, Trump did not know that. “No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” the President replied.
 
If this keeps up, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump quietly drops Vance and picks someone a bit more..."classy" for lack of a better term.
I don't know how you could quietly drop a VP that confirmed at the RNC, can Trump even change his VP after the RNC I don't know the nuances of the American system but aren't they both locked in until the election?
 
I mean you're the guy who claimed that it was "lucky" that Iran didn't retaliate against the US for icing Soleimani so now it's not a big deal because Iran isn't a serious threat?

Trump's threats work because one can genuinely believe he'd send the US army to fuck you up or give allies the big guns to do it for him at least. Nobody believed Biden or Harris when they claimed totally legit and serious consequences for Russia invading Ukraine.
Iran isn't a serious threat but at the same time, if they had done something back to us it would've likely escalated into a huge war. Afghanistan wasn't a threat to the US before 9/11, but Al Qaeda still managed to do 9/11 and start that war.

If Trump did send the US army in to Russia, it'd probably start a nuclear war. I know you fantasize about Donald Trump in a sexual way, but I thought you obese, elderly conman fetishists loved his "no war" approach? Now you're saying you'd love a war if the love of your life did it? This is why everyone laughs at you Alaskans and thinks you're retarded
 
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