Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Ghostse]

Not really a good idea. A nuclear reactor isn't something you can just turn on and off. Its always on even when its off. An offline reactor is less a sleeping cat and more a tiger that has been collared and is held in place by a bit string tied to a wooden stake in the ground. The reaction does not stop completely. Its just very tightly controlled and requires lots of external power to keep continuous amounts of coolant flowing. Its the one issue with nuclear power. Its more economical to keep the thing on all the time. The only time its "off" is when the reactor rods are completely depleted and need to be replaced. And even then they need to be put in a retaining pool with constant rotation of fresh coolant.

Setting a bunch of retards loose in the facility to "smash shit" is a good recipe for bad things™ to happen.

Now as I was writing this post I realized I was making a large and likely wrong logical assumption, which is Western reactors, being in nice countries, are designed keep those nice areas from turning into radioactive moonscapes. This is Russia, and very likely Soviet, so no one gave a care about irradiating that piece of shit country.

Anyway, while you don't want to send a squad of олівець eaters in start randomly smashing shit, if you have someone go in and drop the control rods you can go hog-wild on the control systems as long as you don't enter the reactor itself. The worst thing you could do, with a fully scrammed reactor, is shut off coolant pumps (and the back up pumps, and the emergency backup pumps) and let it boil dry such the mega hot uranium (even neutron shielded) is exposed to oxygen.... but while it might explode the reactor should be able to contain it without anything leaking out, even though the reactor itself is completely fucked.

Chernobyl got as bad as it did because they didn't fully offline the reactor. (also due to utter shit reactor design and russian incompetence and attempts to hide/deflect blame).
Edit: I just checked, Kursk is also the same reactor design as Chernobyl, but has had some safety retrofits since. LOL. Fucking LOL. Muscovites best be getting out their lead-lined undies. LOL.
Fukushima was as bad as it was because a)the reactor was automatically shut down but only barely before the tsunami fucked everything up further and b) the rector vessels were damaged in the earthquake and following tsunami. The sea water from said tsunami also got into places it wasn't supposed to be and got irradiated, which has hampered clean up.
Basically the towns near by at this point are about as dangerous to live in as Denver, but are kept evacuated because they are eventually going to need to clean up the spilled nuclear fuel and they still aren't 100% sure how bad it is - so even if you let people come back, they'd have to be evacuated again - best to keep them away.

Again, the REACTOR is completely and utterly turbo fucked, and while you wouldn't want to be downwind at the time it was happening its wouldn't be a Chernobyl or even a Fukushima. You know, assuming everything was built to spec. (lol)

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

For those who haven't seen it, I found Oliver Stone's "documentary" on Ukraine posted to some tankie leftist's YT channel.

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It's absolutely no surprise that our z-nig sisters arguing mirrors exactly the spoon-fed Russian talking points regurgitated by Stone; almost like they're the same kind of people who swallow Michael Moore's bullshit whole, and which makes them experts by osmosis. Those faggots never change.

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Speaking of Chernobyl, I highly recommend this guy's channel. I may have suggested it before, but it's still worthwhile.

 

[MG-34]

Zigger media is editing videos of Ukrainian trench raiders ambushing a Russian defensive line.

Here's the orginal unblurred version of Ivans eating shit from over a year ago for the benefit of our z-nigger counterparts that scan this thread hourly:

 

[mindlessobserver]

Syrski has updated Zelensky publicly on the operations in Kursk. Ukraine is claiming control of around 1,000 sq km of the region, with advanced echelons of the invading force in battle south of Kauchuk. Some estimates put the Ukrainian force at around 10,000 but that is just a guess.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-incursion-kursk-afa42b9613323901bef07800ac2cae9e

 

[AncientPhosphur]

If he fears arrest, perhaps he'll flee to Russia permanently, hoping that his relative wealth can buy him very young female companionship.

Why would they let him in?

 

[Ghostse]

Zigger media is editing videos of Ukrainian trench raiders ambushing a Russian defensive line.

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Here's the orginal unblurred version of Ivans eating shit from over a year ago for the benefit of our z-nigger counterparts that scan this thread hourly:

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What you do you mean, comrade? Clearly this is Russian soldiers wearing disguises to trick a Ukrainian infiltration squad disguised as russians. There is zero chance the soldiers of the 2nd mightest army in the world would ever get punked in their own trenches like this, much like the only reason they'd give up half an oblast is a 4820-D chess move by Putin to look like a bitch on Global TV such that Ukraine will feel bad for him and take their bullshit peace terms.

Also I remember this being posted and people analyzing the stuff in the ammo-box dugouts. The bearded guy was speculated to be a russian milblogger propaganda-spewing-war-tourist until he turned up alive and breathing else where.

Why would they let him in?

Useful idiot to parrot their talking points + Putin needs someone to talk about his hobbies (pedophillia) with

 

[National Defense Advocate]

Zigger media is editing videos of Ukrainian trench raiders ambushing a Russian defensive line.

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Here's the orginal unblurred version of Ivans eating shit from over a year ago for the benefit of our z-nigger counterparts that scan this thread hourly:

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Are they trying to pass off a Ukrainian Trench assault as a Russian trench assault?

 

[WhiteNight]

I am an ignoramus about power delivery, but one thought is that since Russia has been wrecking Ukraine's power infra for 2.5 years, possibly Ukraine could redirect power from the Kursk NPP to themselves. That is, is it feasible for Ukraine to run a line across the border they control, thus routing power into their grid?

Scenario 1: Ukraine takes control of the KNPP. Then they have fine control over where the power goes, and can cut off any supply not going towards the border.

Scenario 2: Ukraine is unable to seize the KNPP. It seems Ukraine could still connect the grids. Russia would have to cut power to an entire chunk of the Kursk region to deny Ukraine power (which they might do, but there would be some domestic discontent).

In either case, Russia can still lob missiles at substations, but with missile defense that might be manageable.

Anyone with knowledge of electrical engineering able to say whether this is possible?

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

It's absolutely no surprise that our z-nig sisters arguing mirrors exactly the spoon-fed Russian talking points regurgitated by Stone; almost like they're the same kind of people who swallow Michael Moore's bullshit whole, and which makes them experts by osmosis. Those faggots never change.

Their safe space is on the brink of civil war and a pogrom against the Jews.

That is, is it feasible for Ukraine to run a line across the border they control, thus routing power into their grid?

If the infrastructure is not ready already (Ukrainian and Russian networks were once connected), it would not make sense. A lot of work, the lines would be at risk of destruction, and it is an occupied area after all.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Watching DW.

They are saying its up to around 5 Ukrainian Brigades at this point. So this is most definitely not a raid or incursion. Its developing into a full on invasion. The question now is, is that true and is Russia sending enough forces to the area to deal with it. These are looking to be Ukraines pipe hitters, as far as the units involved go. Trying to send some lightly armed 18 year old conscripts on their 2 year national service up against them would be like leading lambs to slaughter.

 

[draggs]

AFU has been probing the Belgorod border southeast from the Kursk attack

Probing maybe not the right word, more like a couple platoons driving up on Russian border posts, squeezing off some rounds, and heading back. Seeing what response they get and trying to keep the Russians off balance

 

[BlackDragoons]

3 day Operation turns into a counter invasion 2 years later with Ukraine pushing into your territory.

I wouldn't be surprised if Putin commits suicide with a bullet to the back head.

 

[Tealeaf]

High voltage transmission lines are relatively cheap and easy to put up. There’s a reason Russians would rather strike substations rather than transmission lines: substations are expensive and difficult to build or repair, as well as much easier targets for inaccurate weapons. As such, the main risk of synchronizing the west Kursk grid into the Ukrainian grid is that Russia will try to destroy the substations, particularly the ones at the nuke plant that feed the grid.

 

[Thomas Talus]

I am an ignoramus about power delivery, but one thought is that since Russia has been wrecking Ukraine's power infra for 2.5 years, possibly Ukraine could redirect power from the Kursk NPP to themselves. That is, is it feasible for Ukraine to run a line across the border they control, thus routing power into their grid?

Putting up lines is one thing, defending their entire length through what is still enemy clay is another thing entirely.

 

[mindlessobserver]

3 day Operation turns into a counter invasion 2 years later with Ukraine pushing into your territory.

I wouldn't be surprised if Putin commits suicide with a bullet to the back head.

I doubt that. He still thinks he can win, or at the very least come out ahead. I do have to wonder though if he could go back to Feb 20, 2022, whether or not he would have gone over the border knowing this is where he would be today. We all joke about how everything is going according to plan even today, but really the entire vision Russia had for this was dead the moment they had to retreat from Kiev. Everything since has been desperate flailing to try and salvage something from the disaster.

There is also the question of what happens to the Russian economy once the war ends. Government military spending is the only thing keeping things afloat right now. The consequence of sanctions, the need to stop spending on Arms and Soldiers coupled with so many young men getting killed or wounded guarantees a major recession after its all said and done. That's tomorrows problem though. The problem for today is a foreign State has invaded Russia for the first time in almost a century that the Russian Army is fumbling the ball again like its 1942 all over again.

And setting aside both Ukraine and Russia, for NATO and the USA in particular this war has been INVALUABLE. Its been the biggest live fire exercise of NATO shit ever. Up until this war, all this modern equipment and the concept of what a 21st century battlefield looks like has been academic and the subject of speculative fiction. Now we have a very good idea. I think one of the most immediate reforms coming down the pipe for the US Army will be a new Infantry MOS dedicated to drone operations. Every company of Infantry should have at least 1 squad of drone operators.

I've thought about how that could work, and the idea that comes to mind is a Platoon of them attached to HQ Company with a 1st or 2nd Lieutenant in charge and a SFC. While on mission, the Platoon is divided into squads and attached to each company in the Battalion, with the LT and SFC in the TOC overseeing things. This would be for frontline shit like short range recon and FPV flying bombs. Brigade and Division level can have bigger shit. The FPV flying bomb in particular would be cash money. Since it doesn't require guidance (its flown by hand) they can be churned out on the cheap and be relatively small. A Squad of operators could probably carry one a piece in their ruck sack, and have on command the equivalent of a short range air strike for whatever company they are with.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

A Ka-52M joins Team TZD:

 

[Mikoyan]

A Ka-52M joins Team TZD:
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Clearly triggered by the 5.11 hat.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Ukrainian Army has taken full control of Sudzha. Looks like with Minimal fighting. Also, note the English on the drivers console. This is first person inside an American made HMMWV. It is pleasing to listen to that familiar engine roar while looking at the sight of a passing Russian town. That vehicle is finally living its best life, doing the thing God intended for it.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Ukrainian Army has taken full control of Sudzha. Looks like with Minimal fighting. Also, note the English on the drivers console. This is first person inside an American made HMMWV. It is pleasing to listen to that familiar engine roar while looking at the sight of a passing Russian town. That vehicle is finally living its best life, doing the thing God intended for it.

According to my unofficial information, the center of Sudzha survived because it was not fought for at all.

Generally speaking, there was almost no fighting in the city itself - there was heavy destruction in the suburbs, but it resulted from... Russian bombings. These idiots literally dropped their FAB bombs on their OWN CITY and on their own forces' positions

 

[Astro Galactic Megalul]

According to my unofficial information, the center of Sudzha survived because it was not fought for at all.

Generally speaking, there was almost no fighting in the city itself - there was heavy destruction in the suburbs, but it resulted from... Russian bombings. These idiots literally dropped their FAB bombs on their OWN CITY and on their own forces' positions

Russia bombing itself means it's not bombing Ukraine, at least not as much.

A Ka-52M joins Team TZD:
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Talk about benefiting from confusion