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I love how relatable and natural Smiling Friends' dialogue is. The scenarios can go off the rails with the character designs, yet their dialogue and everyday predicaments grounds its absurdity.
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I love how relatable and natural Smiling Friends' dialogue is. The scenarios can go off the rails with the character designs, yet their dialogue and everyday predicaments grounds its absurdity.
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What is it about the way Smiling Friends does that it that makes it so much better than when Rick and Morty does it? Maybe it's the lack of obnoxious stammering.
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Because R&M's improv is of the kind that tries to be wacky and come up with outrageous ideas and one-up one another. See the Two Brothers bit.
SF's is more based.
No! I mean, SF's is more based on awkward naturalistic conversations, with small misunderstanding and people talking over each other accidentally, and sometimes it come almost straight from their own lives. Check the Create Unknown episode with Mike and Zach, how they came up with the Renaissance Men bit, they were tired and bored and out of ideas while working on what they thought was gonna be the worst episode, and the conversation evolved from that turned into the bit. They recorded it the same day, at night, which is why it comes off so appropriately low-energy.
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To me, it's that the characters in Smiling Friends are inherently less annoying than Rick and Morty. With Rick and Morty, before even including the other characters, they're his two voices. Neither is his speaking voice so it sounds like someone... doing a voice. As we all know, Charlie is just Zach's voice so it sounds less like he's saying lines through an act and more that he's just talking. You could say "but Allan is Mike pulling a voice" but when Allan gets into these more improvisational-sounding convos/arguments, a lot of the strange pronunciation/cadence is dropped, which in of itself is funny, implying that Allan actively uses a flat affect as a personal choice.
Also it's what Nick Obre said, the conversations are more grounded. People can relate to Person A bringing something up because he read it in an article and Person B not knowing what Person A is talking about or talking about what they liked and didn't like about a movie they just came out of. The normal person who doesn't have a drunk/depressed/schizophrenic family member can't relate to sudden philosophical rants or stammering diatribes about szechuan sauce or whatever
Also it's what Nick Obre said, the conversations are more grounded. People can relate to Person A bringing something up because he read it in an article and Person B not knowing what Person A is talking about or talking about what they liked and didn't like about a movie they just came out of. The normal person who doesn't have a drunk/depressed/schizophrenic family member can't relate to sudden philosophical rants or stammering diatribes about szechuan sauce or whatever
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I meant more when characters (usually Rick and Morty) have their "real" talks with each other that usually entails them both stammering every other word. Unless that's also improved.
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DEI show receives 38 gorrillion awards and tops every "critic" list and then gets cancelled because nobody actually watched it.
Truly, this is such an unprecedented turn of events, I don't even know what to say, how could this possibly happen.
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Except that show was fucking boring, it doesn't surprise me that it got cancelled
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I cannot remember who said it. The reason why animation often uses talking animals is that they make the mundane more relatable and humorous. Smiling Friends' humor is the absurd intertwining with the mundane and ordinary. The jokes that Smiling Friends do, Family Guy would just use them in a cutaway gag. Or practically spell OUT that they're making a joke which ruins the flow of the plot.
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In regards to new AS shows, I’ve been enjoying Psi-Cops as a dumb goofy show.
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I think Smiling Friends the improvish scenes are just there to be funny and reflect on the absurd cartoon universe. Whereas Rick & Morty fell in the same hole as Family Guy with being shocking and edgy just for the sake of being shocking and edgy.
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your attention span has been destroyed by endless scrolling and reddit
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And you're ignoring the fact that it was a badly writen DEI shitpile who's only redeeming feature was the concept art.
It had all the coherence of a third grader spitballing ideas while on a sugar high and none of the concepts presented in it were even remotely thought out.
It was the sci fi equivallent of "Ooooh look how weird and RANDOM we are."
Its literally rick and morty except without the comedy. When rick builds a nuclear reactor using the hemomoroid of some random alien its stupid, but when scavenger's reign does it its profound all of a sudden?
Who is this show meant to appeal to? Sci fi fans? They'll be annoyed that the show gives 0 fucks about worldbuilding. People will latch onto coherence, the only reason anyone gives a shit about rainworld is because the ecosystem it built is intresting and consistenct. Compare this multimillion dollar product employing hundreds of people to south scrimshaw made by some guy using stock sounds and its night and fuckign day.
Characters in scavengers reign somehow have absurd ammounts of knowledge about the ecosystem that rely on ludicrusly wild extrapolations there is no way they could have made on their own (in fact, watching how they LEARNED all the crazy shit they do would be waaaaayy more intresting than them already having the knowledge) and are also complete morons that don't understand or respect the dangers of the ecosystem at the same time.
The writers never attempt to actually work out how the world would work in practice, and only think as far as what would look cool for the next scene. The entire writer's room of this show can be summed up as "WHOA WOULDN'T IT BE COOL IF" and that's the end of it.
Once you get past the pretty animation the show has nothing to offer you unless you're an LSD addict.
Scavenger's reign is the definition of style over substance. Its transformers for pretentious people.
Really the opening scene tells it all. The characters after a month on the planet have somehow discovered that if you cut the side of a specific animal, climb inside its guts, do the konami code with its intestines, its going to spawn 2 orbs, that if you then clang, said orbs will generate light.
Also the creature is unharmed by this btw.
I highly doubt that the writers have actually thought through the biology of this creature, they just wanted a trippy intro.
Actually while I'm ranting about creatures let's talk about Hollow. When I first saw hollow I was intrigued. "Oh ok, so this creature has an incredibly weak body making it unable to feed itself but uses telepathy to make others feed it! That's a cool and unique conce-" and then a few minutes later the same creature is performing hardcore metalbending telekinesis breaking appart reinforced steel while running at terminal velocity.
None of the creatures in scavengers reign exist in their own independant little ecosysten which is the whole appeal of a show like this, they exist purely to serve the plot because the writers are too stupid to actually write an ecosystem.
Once you get passed the initial "wow so wacky" factor there is nothing left, you cannot sustain a show on trippy imagery alone, you need something to hold it toogether, which this show lacks.
How you're supposed to make a show like this, is that first you create the ecosystem and figure out all its intricasies, and THEN you try to work out how humans would survive in it.
The writers meanwhile did the exact opposite, they had the plot they wanted to tell with the humans, and designed the ecosystem around them instead of the other way around, which is why none of the animals feel like real animals, they feel either like traps or tools specifically designed for a TV series about humans.
Watching scavenger's reign I was instantly reminded of south scrimshaw, which is literally scavenger's reign except not shit from the documentarian aspect, and subnautica, which is literally scavenger's reign except not shit from the survivalist aspect.
I'm sorry but scavenger's reign deserved to fail because the writing is transformers tier.
Transformers has a lot of effort put into the CGI too, that doesn't make it good.
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tl;dr, you tard. this thread is about Smiling Friends. Go whinge about your grievances with Scavengers Reign somewhere else.
tl;dr, you tard. this thread is about Smiling Friends. Go whinge about your grievances with Scavengers Reign somewhere else.
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tl;dr, you tard. explaining why bad writing and good animation don't make a good show is relevant in the discussion of good mature cartoons and bad mature cartoons and why some work and why some don't, doubly so when it comes to substance vs style, both of which are reasons for smiling friend's success.
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It’s just a cartoon lol calm down