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[quaawaa]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8Id8AZnVYHkrather interesting video by Chuck antecedently Sneed, basically accuses others of Cherry Picking when he himself is ignoring the central argument of these people that Tokyo has been growing pretty massively yet there's been no major increase in housing prices, very disingenuous, and all the comments are calling him out.

Chuck is right and the comments saying that he’s wrong because Tokyo still has affordable housing despite an increasing population are themselves wrong. They do have an increasing population, but their housing (especially in the areas that urbanists like) is only affordable to foreigners who can take advantage of the weak Yen.



Tokyo's population is slightly increasing, but the Greater Tokyo Area now has a declining population and has been flat for years:


Compare those population growth rates to American metro areas and it should be clear that Tokyo is not facing the same challenges as the US:

There are 245 American metro areas that grew more from 2020-2023 (three years) than the Tokyo Metro Area grew from 2015-2020 (five years).

They told Chuck to look up Tokyo's population and compare it to other metro areas, but they didn't actually do that themselves.

An English article talking about how normal Japanese people feel about Tokyo's housing market:

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Only in urbanist land is $865k for a 646 sq ft apartment considered affordable. The cheap housing isn’t in places like Shinjuku that Jason visited and gushed about. It’s in the outskirts where the commute to the central city takes over an hour.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

I like the metric system for cooking where precise measuremens and conversations are common, but not much else due to bias. Also going 100 kilometers an hour isn't as impressive as going 100 miles an hour. However, the one thing that Americans are objectively correct in using is Fahrenheit, it is perfect.

• The range 0 to 100 reasonably reflects the range humans can live in (anything below 30 or above 80 is when risk of hypothermia/heatstroke get serious)
• Because of that range it makes it easy and intuitive to appropriately prepare for the day.
• The measurements of F is half the size of C and therefore more accurate and easier to get the AC to the perfect temperature.

Fuck Celsius

that first point is pretty much the exact reason why the scale was calibrated the way it was
(also it was devised in a time with much lower numeracy in general; it was believed that most people would have trouble understanding negative numbers)

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Also almost all USA fire trucks aren’t that custom built - they’re on a standard Oshkosh or similar heavy-doody truck chassis and customizable to the needs of the department at the time. Rural areas? Lots of chainsaws and debris removal equipment. Urban? Jaws of life and other “separate the faggots stuck together” type dealios.

All firetrucks are custom built in so far as they are all built to order. But they come with the options of standardized pieces, they are built off a standardized frame and use standardized modules which are joined together to order per the customer's request. However there will be customizations made on request. That's how Pierce (which as far as I'm aware is the largest firetruck manufacturer in America) does it at least.

Most of the comments are anti-gun:

Does that honestly surprise you?

nobody wants a Kei truck in a parade or at a funeral

Speak for yourself, Kei trucks are cute as hell.

I can see them argue about narrow streets where cars can't get to, but there's a reason why those are completely extinct except for third-world shantytowns and tourist-oriented historical sites.

WHat they're typically used for is things like Spring Break or other similar things where there are massive, dense, crowds of people and many many closed or inhibited roads and most of your calls are going to be things like "Two retards having a fist fight, minor cuts and bruises" or "Drunk retard passes out from heat stroke, administer IV".

Too many of the autistic metric units while being multiples of ten are useless at human scale without being multiples. And nobody uses decimeter and such things anyway.

My favorite metric unit is the litre because it is almost precisely one quart. I find that quite ironic.

And you can check the exact conversion in seconds. It really doesn't take long to google "X mph kmh"

And here in America we need to learn both anyways. Most of us never use Metric but for those of us who work with our hands we can fairly reliably do conversions or near enough conversions in our heads.

 

[quaawaa]

This is just a random Twitter thread, but it's funny and related to this thread.

An American tourist says that he immediately understood why Europeans are called "Europoors":

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A European urbanist takes offence:

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A European immigrant to America disagrees:

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The Europoor is traumatized by seeing so much open space:

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(There are sidewalks in the picture)

The European-American points out that European cities are infested with Roma and North African degenerates:

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And the Euro-cuck says that's a good thing:

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The adoptive American says they're still criminals:

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and the European says that he's more afraid of Russia invading than being pickpocketed by a Roma or being stabbed by a Knife of Peace:

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The American woman points out that men don't have to fear being raped by diversity:

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No response.

Who is this stereotypical European? A Latvian programmer married to a street performer:


He also loves migrants because he doesn't have any nearby:

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[reptile baht spaniard rid]

That’s the thing that pisses me off about immigration. There are tens of thousands of Europoor white-and-white-adjacent who’d love to come gargle American cock.

And instead we have to import the blackest of niggers.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

And the Euro-cuck says that's a good thing:

When in world history have North Africans and Europeans been friends? Most of North Africa/Europe encounters have been warfare. Also in most of world history, if you were living in a situation where you could hear strangers on the other side of the wall, you were among the urban poor. Does this cuck ever hear his neighbors having sex, playing loud music, a persistent and sickly cough, random hammering and power tools, and all manners of other noise, all of these at any point in 24 hours, and think "man, this is the way humans were meant to live"?

 

[JJLiautaud]

Who is this stereotypical European? A Latvian programmer married to a street performer:

Tarasov is also a Russian last name so there's another thing you don't have have to worry about in america Russians invading your country and flooding it with Russians and forcing Russian Culture and Language on your country to create a 5th column to prevent independence movements. There's a reason why there were a lot of Baltic SS Units during the War.

 

[Meriasek]

What does he know about urban areas and dense cities? That faggot lives in Riga, which has like 600k people and about 2000 people per km². That's barely a dense city. Compare that to over 4000/km² in Berlin or Munich, or over 10000/km² in NYC.

 

[kiwirevolving]

That "Fuck the Fire Department" song was satire but this faggot chose to shit on firefighters unironically

Repost from r/FuckCarsCirclejerk, does he know that Heineken uses trucks in Amsterdam to deliver beer to bars?

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

and the European says that he's more afraid of Russia invading than being pickpocketed by a Roma or being stabbed by a Knife of Peace:

Then he must be larping. Every kid in Eastern Europe knows to avoid cygan. The ones who didn't listen had their bikes stolen.

Most of us never use Metric but for those of us who work with our hands we can fairly reliably do conversions or near enough conversions in our heads.

It doesn't take long to understand the approximate conversions. I quickly learned that 1 meter is almost the same thing as 1 yard, because almost every single sewing tutorial I came across used yards. I learned the mph/kmh conversion because I love watching police bodycams videos. Inches are simple enough. Usually there is no need for autistic precise measurements, just the approximations are good enough. And if you actually need the precise conversion you can always just check online.

Does this cuck ever hear his neighbors having sex, playing loud music, a persistent and sickly cough, random hammering and power tools, and all manners of other noise, all of these at any point in 24 hours, and think "man, this is the way humans were meant to live"?

But think of those bougie barcades and boulangeries and tap beer places!

 

[maxell4hd]

What does he know about urban areas and dense cities? That faggot lives in Riga, which has like 600k people and about 2000 people per km². That's barely a dense city. Compare that to over 4000/km² in Berlin or Munich, or over 10000/km² in NYC.

And has seen significant population declines and the Baltic states are all much less populated than they used to be. At least in the USSR, they were strategically important for greater access to the sea and the land bridge to Kaliningrad. Now, other than some modestly successful industries they've become a sleepy backwater of no importance.

 

[Meriasek]

And has seen significant population declines and the Baltic states are all much less populated than they used to be. At least in the USSR, they were strategically important for greater access to the sea and the land bridge to Kaliningrad. Now, other than some modestly successful industries they've become a sleepy backwater of no importance.

I guess of the three big Baltic cities Riga, Talinn, and Vilnius, Vilnius is probably the most industrially signficant. At least to me, they have some very important companies relevant to my field of work.

 

[Tootsie Bear]

That guy from Riga Latvia is for a rude awakening if he thinks "immigrants" would be better neighbors than Russians. Hell, I would like to see him try to live in major liberal cities in California, Oregon, or Washington state. He'll be dreaming he was camping in a tent in a rural area.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

The Europoor is traumatized by seeing so much open space:

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(There are sidewalks in the picture)

We do have small boutique shops though, they're in strip malls, which are based.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

That guy from Riga Latvia is for a rude awakening if he thinks "immigrants" would be better neighbors than Russians. Hell, I would like to see him try to live in major liberal cities in California, Oregon, or Washington state. He'll be dreaming he was camping in a tent in a rural area.

Russians causing problems is easily solved by unlimited cheap vodka. Other immigrants are more difficult to quiesce.

 

[Gog & Magog]

That guy from Riga Latvia is for a rude awakening if he thinks "immigrants" would be better neighbors than Russians.

What if the immigrant is from Russia?

 

[Midwit]

Does this cuck ever hear his neighbors having sex, playing loud music, a persistent and sickly cough, random hammering and power tools, and all manners of other noise, all of these at any point in 24 hours

Especially when you neighbours decide to randomly start hammering 5 times a day.

But think of those bougie barcades and boulangeries and tap beer places!

>tap beer places
You mean a pub?

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

>tap beer places
You mean a pub?

Yes, but much more expensive and homosexual

 

[Atypical Dog]

What does he know about urban areas and dense cities? That faggot lives in Riga, which has like 600k people and about 2000 people per km². That's barely a dense city. Compare that to over 4000/km² in Berlin or Munich, or over 10000/km² in NYC.

"Oh wow, I wonder how dense my home city is-"

Metro Manila: 21,202/sq. km

Does that make me qualified to speak about density? I have Opinions (tm), like:
> Roads are great and if you have a city you should overbuild them.
> Adds room for transport if ever you end up needing it.
> Radial roads around natural chokepoints like bridge crossings should be made as much as possible. Not in the Metro, but here's a particularly bad one.

We do have small boutique shops though, they're in strip malls, which are based.

Air conditioning is based. Cars are portable air conditioning units with a box and engine attached.

Only in urbanist land is $865k for a 646 sq ft apartment considered affordable. The cheap housing isn’t in places like Shinjuku that Jason visited and gushed about. It’s in the outskirts where the commute to the central city takes over an hour.

Those are pain and suffering, but we have plenty of people taking two or three hour commutes into Metro Manila. Density is Hell in a handbasket.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Density is Hell in a handbasket.

This is the reality. Yes, living in a cabin innawoods means you don't have things that are necessary and nice, but there's a definite list you can make and once you meet all those, there's really not a need for anything more.

I only need one Walmart - I don't need ten. Is it sometimes nice that there's another one close by if the first is out of something? Sure, but it's not much compared to all the downsides.

There's a reason they always fall back to restaurants - because you can patronage 50+ easily, which gives them some justification. But nobody needs 50 grocery stores; at most you have, what, Costco, Trader Joes, Aldis, Walmart, Albertsons, local corner store - six or so?

Who the hell actually needs this shit?



Nobody - it's just that the number of people need to have that number of stores to supply the niggercattle with food.

"Oh, but the Getty couldn't exist without the dense urban sprawl of LA" yeah fuck a goat, it's a museum and it exists separate from the urban shithole, and few people visit it. It's fucking free and they get 1.5 million visitors per year; not even half the population of LA goes to it once a year! Oh wait, 25% of the visitors are international tourists! Oh, fuck, another 10% are schoolkids forced to attend! https://www.getty.edu/press/pdfs/Getty-Facts-for-Press-2020.pdf (a)

None of it depends on the 18 million niggers living nearby.

Oh! I forgot! LA isn't even urban enough, it's a carbrained rural area!