Paris 2024 Olympics shenanigans - The most multicultural Olympics ever.

We've all heard the talking point that conservative Algeria would NEVER allow a man to compete like that.

Let's look at the story of Dora Ratjen:
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German Dora Ratjen competed in the women's high jump in the 1936 Olympic Games in Berlin for the literal Nazis.
The doctor couldn't make sense of his genitals at birth, so he was raised as a girl. When he entered puberty he realized he's a boy, but was too embarrassed to say anything about it.
So he continued doing women's sport finishing 4th in the Olympics in Nazi Germany and also setting the world record two years later.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Ratjen

They are saying that Algeria is more Nazi than the actual Nazis.
The german wiki has more:

Ratjens Vater erklärte bei seiner Befragung, dass „Dora […] im Stehen kein Wasser lassen könne.“ Ratjen selbst war froh darüber, dass seine Doppelexistenz beendet war, protokollierte die Polizei. „Er hat diesen Zeitpunkt schon seit längerer Zeit erwartet, denn er war sich darüber klar, dass eines Tages die sportliche Betätigung als Frau nicht mehr tragbar sein wird.“
Ratjen's father explained during his interrogation that “Dora [...] could not urinate standing up”. Ratjen himself was glad that his double existence was over, the police recorded. “He had been expecting this for some time, because he was aware that one day his sporting activities as a woman would no longer be sustainable.”


So basically his father raised him as a girl (or continued to), because he wasn't able to pee standing up.

This is him at the time of his arrest:

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I feel for the paralympic athletes having to watch the shitshow that a lot of the normal stuff has been (the river, malfunctions, controversy, injuries, dreadful food and accommodation etc) and knowing they have all that to come.
It's ok, some of them can't see.


What's the reason Imane doesn't just get a chromosome test now from a neutral party and let the results be public? It'd go a long way to settling this debate. I can only think of one reason why someone wouldn't consent to this.
Because if he did that, he would prove the "haters" right. He can't do that.

It's been a week and you guys are still falling for the Snigger troll... When will it end.
 
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What's the reason Imane doesn't just get a chromosome test now from a neutral party and let the results be public? It'd go a long way to settling this debate. I can only think of one reason why someone wouldn't consent to this.
I believe Imane has, it's just that no one is legally allowed to release the results.
Personally I have no clue why that is, nor how you can get around it.
 
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He has man hands, Imane is a dude. I’ve known big bitches with no tits before, he is not built like one. Dude is likely aware he’s intersex, but using the current social climate to win prize money and sponsorships from woke Western companies.

I respect you holding back judgement, but everything I’ve see from the pro-Imane people is weak evidence. They could release a Karotype test with no issues and they don’t.
 
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Don't know man. Looks like a dood to me. Simple as.
Absolutely. Algerian males have like five faces they share and this nafri nigger is sporting one of them. I pass dudes with that face on the streets every day and i wager other european bughive dwellers on here do the same.
 
The german wiki has more:





So basically his father raised him as a girl (or continued to), because he wasn't able to pee standing up.

This is him at the time of his arrest:

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He was arrested in March 1939, got a male name and passport entry and was told not to participate in women's sport anymore.
However:
In 1939 she broke the world record with 1.66m, only to have it snatched away from her soon after by a jump by Germany's Dora Ratjen. Tyler had been suspicious of Ratjen since they'd met in Berlin. Tyler recalled, "They wrote to me telling me I didn't hold the record, so I wrote to them saying, 'She's not a woman, she's a man'. They did some research and found 'her' serving as a waiter called Hermann Ratjen. So I got my world record back." Tyler's world record was formally recognised by the sport's world governing body, the IAAF, in 1957.

The 1.66m record is dated to 29 May 1939. This implies that he continued pretending to be a woman in sport after already having been told to stop doing so.
 
You can all keep crying at me and downvoting me like faggot redditors, I am happy to be the one correct person in the retard echochamber not staring at a woman and desperately imagining her with a cock. If you have any questions please re-read my previous posts until you understand.
That's your third 'not reply', you fucking tranny chasing megafaggot. We get it; you like tranny dick.
 
This shit is retarded, she's just a genetic freak like a lot of Olympic athletes as their body does 'naturally' what other's would need to dope for. We had this same conversation over ten years ago because Caster Semenya (who looks undeniably like a dude) took home a bunch of golds before she was essentially disqualified from further participation in 2019 when they changed the rules for hormonally abnormal athletes. Retards regurgitating the AIBA's decision have no fucking idea what they're talking about. The IBA is literally such a corrupt shitshow the IOC- an equally corrupt shitshow- dropped them as a governing body for their boxing events 4 years ago.
It's like 90/10 she has an all-natural axe wound regardless of how mannish and ugly she is. You can make the argument that her hormonal levels are too close to a man's to compete against women, but this "I ZOOMED IN 50X YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE OF HIS PENIS LOOK LOOK LOOK" shit is fucking embarrassing. Actual cum-gargling faggots do not fantasize about cock this much.
 
I believe Imane has, it's just that no one is legally allowed to release the results.
Personally I have no clue why that is, nor how you can get around it.

That seems bizarre. If Imane had the test done and said the results should be public, I don't see how anyone else could say otherwise. Not saying you're wrong, but it just makes no sense to me.

I get @SiggerNlayer is having a good time trolling, but I wish he'd put more effort into his posts.

I mean c'mon, he can't cite the IBA for not saying anything about Imane's chromosomes for four years like that means anything when he has as much access to those test results as he does the ones saying Imane is XY which is to say he doesn't and it's unverifiable on both ends. It weakens the believability of his arguments.

He also keeps citing Jake Paul calling Imane a tranny (it was Logan Paul you inattentive nigger) and doesn't mention the retraction. Note, the retraction is just for calling Imane a tranny, not the DSD theory. For some reason, @SiggerNlayer refuses to argue the intersex angle, just defaulting to the mostly dismissed tranny lines.

He'll say Imane is currently doing stuff to lower testosterone levels as if that would have any impact on Imane's physical development during puberty if they did have internal testes, as if inhibiting T-levels is going to undo the bone and muscle development from puberty. Again, he'd dismiss this as speculation, either oblivious or fully cognizant that he's doing the same thing just taking the father's words as fact on the matter.

It's whatever. The tryhard fag can argue however/whatever he wants, as long as he's enjoying himself, I guess. I personally just really want to know whether Imane has XY chromosomes. Still doesn't seem like an unreasonable ask in this situation.
 
The german wiki has more:





So basically his father raised him as a girl (or continued to), because he wasn't able to pee standing up.

This is him at the time of his arrest:

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I've previously posted parts of this article elsewhere on the site:
The Ratjens were simple folk, and although they later took over a bar, they barely made enough money to live on. The couple already had three daughters when Mrs Ratjen gave birth on November 20, 1918. On September 22, 1938 Dora's father Heinrich made the following statement to the police: [...]"When the child was born the midwife called over to me, 'Heini, it's a boy!' But five minutes later she said to me, 'It is a girl, after all.'"
[...] Nine months later [...] Heinrich Ratjen called a doctor and asked him to inspect the child's genitalia while he was at it. Something wasn't quite right, he told the doctor. In his statement to police, he said: "The doctor replied, 'Let it be. You can't do anything about it anyway.'"
[...] the child was raised as a girl. Dora attended a girls' school, was religiously confirmed in 1932 as a girl, and liked playing ball and shopkeeper. "My parents brought me up as a girl," Dora told the police in 1938. "I therefore wore girl's clothes all my childhood. But from the age of 10 or 11 I started to realize I wasn't female, but male. However I never asked my parents why I had to wear women's clothes even though I was male."
Dora started to become particularly concerned when she didn't develop breasts like all the other girls. From the age of 17 onwards she shaved her legs every other day, and sooner or later she experienced her first ejaculation. But she was too embarrassed to talk about what was happening to her. An officer who spoke with the alleged fraudster at length said Ratjen must have felt "sexless," a hermaphrodite forced to accept the cards that fate had dealt. "However because he has lived almost all his life in female circles he thinks he can only live his life from a female perspective."
[...] Ratjen's life became a big game of hide-and-seek; a life among women, first Dora's three older sisters, later with female friends. Dora discovered a love of sport, joined Komet Bremen Athletics Club in 1934, and after graduating from high school she became a packer in a tobacco factory.
[...]By the age of 15 Ratjen was an outstanding high-jumper, and in 1934 she was the regional champion of Lower Saxony and one of the strongest contenders for the German Olympic squad. Dora may have appeared wiry and boyish, but so were many other sportswomen at the time.
[...]Germany had begun feverishly preparing for the Olympic Games since the early 1930s [...]. Hitler and his sports minister were greatly concerned about national comparisons, and determined to demonstrate the German nation's sporting superiority. It was at around this time that Germany's top three female high-jumpers -- Bergmann, Ratjen, and Elfried Kaun -- met for the first time.
Unfortunately, the joy was short-lived for the Jew among them. Whereas Kaun and Ratjen were among the "chosen," as the German press dubbed them, Bergmann was left out by the Nazis shortly before the start of the Games.
[...]"I never had any suspicions, not even once," Gretel Bergmann says to this day. "In the communal shower we wondered why she never showed herself naked. It was grotesque that someone could still be that shy at the age of 17. We just thought, 'She's strange. She's odd.'"
[...]Her unmasking in September 1938 was therefore a liberating experience. "Ratjen openly admits to being happy that 'the cat has been let out of the bag,'" noted a police officer after her arrest. "He has been waiting for this moment for a long time because he was well aware that he wouldn't be able to compete as a woman forever."
[...]a police physician arrived from Magdeburg to determine Ratjen's sex, and came to the unambiguous conclusion: "The secondary sexual characteristics are entirely male. The named person can unambiguously be considered a man." However the doctor did note one distinctive feature: "A thick band of scar tissue running backwards from the underside of the penis in a relatively broad line. It is therefore questionable whether this band of scar tissue would allow him to engage in sexual intercourse in a normal manner." This anatomical anomaly probably explains the confusion about Ratjen's gender at birth.
[...] The very same day, a radio message was sent to Berlin: "Women's European high-jumping champion Ratjen, first name Dora, is not a woman, but a man. Please notify the Reich Sports Ministry at once. Awaiting orders by radio."
Reich Sport Minister Tschammer und Osten reacted immediately. The senior officer called the criminal investigation division in Magdeburg personally and demanded the arrested athlete be sent to Hohenlychen sports sanatorium for further tests. But the results were the same: Ratjen was a man.
[...]Dora promised the authorities he would "cease engaging in sport with immediate effect." [...] Speaking to the Bremen health authorities, Heinrich Ratjen insisted "Dora shouldn't be allowed to wear men's clothing under any circumstances because she couldn't urinate while standing. Nor would he permit Dora to take a man's job." For her part Dora's mother told police she still hadn't come to terms with her child's "transformation from a girl into a man."
[...] Ratjen's father initially even objected to a change of name, while civil servants argued about how Dora's name should be changed. Correcting a person's name and their sex posed a considerable problem for the authorities. It therefore wasn't until January 11, 1939 that staff at Verden district court amended the entry for the girl Dora into "A boy." Two months later, on March 29, 1939, Ratjen's father wrote to the police chief of Bremen: "Following the change of the registry office entry regarding the child's sex, I would request you change the child's first name to Heinrich." And he ended his letter, "Heil Hitler!"
[...] And yet the case was clearly important to the Nazis themselves, as attested by the five-page report signed personally by security chief Reinhard Heydrich and sent to chancellery chief Hans Heinrich Lammers. This letter [...] contains no evidence of any previous manipulation. In fact the report provides an amazingly frank summary of events, including the comment that the case "did not prompt undesirable public debate or even conflict in the international sporting arena."
[...] Damage limitation was conducted behind the scenes, just as the Ratjens had requested. Germany openly returned its European Championship gold medal, and the runner-up in Vienna was crowned the victor. Ratjen's record was struck from the books.
[...] Gretel Bergmann emigrated to the United States in 1937. She found out about the allegedly deliberate Nazi mega-plot from a magazine she came across during a visit to the doctor in 1966. "I had to screech and laugh. Everyone thought I was insane," she recalls.
[...]Time devoted just a few sentences to describing how Ratjen had "tearfully confessed" that the Nazis had forced him to represent Germany as a woman "for the sake of the honor and glory of Germany." The magazine finished the segment with an alleged quote from Ratjen: "For three years I lived the life of a girl. It was most dull." It's not clear if Time ever spoke to Ratjen.
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" The 1.66m record is dated to 29 May 1939. This implies that he continued pretending to be a woman in sport after already having been told to stop doing so."
Rätjen jumped 1.70m in 1938, after his uncovering the Nazis voluntarily struck this record off and returned his medal. He was definitely not joining any women's competitions afterwards.
 
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Dad seems like a based and cool guy. I'm glad our girl won. You can hate trannies and globohomo without becoming a mindless retard who jumps onto every shitfest controversy that blows up on twitter.

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Hold on. Allegations of DSD. We are missing a key question.

How closely related is her father and her mother/cousin? Sister?
 
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It seems France has gotten just a tiny bit more diverse over the last couple days. Three congolese athletes (out of six), a judoka, a swimmer and a runner (this fine gentleman also failed a doping test) forgot to attend the closing ceremony. They also forgot to return home afterwards to Africa. Classic mistake, who hasn't ever overslept, amirite?
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It seems France has gotten just a tiny bit more diverse over the last couple days. Three congolese athletes (out of six), a judoka, a swimmer and a runner (this fine gentleman also failed a doping test) forgot to attend the closing ceremony. They also forgot to return home afterwards to Africa. Classic mistake, who hasn't ever overslept, amirite?
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The olympic cringe never ends!!!!!!! I seriously cannot wait for the paras in a couple weeks and LA in 4 years!!!
 
It seems France has gotten just a tiny bit more diverse over the last couple days. Three congolese athletes (out of six), a judoka, a swimmer and a runner (this fine gentleman also failed a doping test) forgot to attend the closing ceremony. They also forgot to return home afterwards to Africa. Classic mistake, who hasn't ever overslept, amirite?

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Meh, if we only accepted Olympic athletes as refugees/defectors we'd be much better off in the West. At least we know these guys have a good work ethic. I'd take 100 of these guys over 10 Pajeets/Muslims any day.
 
Imane's own coach admitted the endocrinologist said they had a chromosomal and hormonal problem, so what the fuck are we even still debating here?
It really doesn't matter because we're never gonna convince people who believe nothing and all at the same time.

If the guy had been born with the biggest cock that ever existed, yet he still chose to identify himself as a woman, morons would go with him being a woman because that's what he believes and what really matters, not his body.

But if he had been born instead with a chromosome disorder making him fully male except for being born with what looks like a vag, those same morons would say "see? SHE is a woman because SHE has female genitalia".

You can't have a reasonable debate, or even a discussion, with people like this.

Not the actual Olympics, but the Paralympics is going to have one blind tranny competing, Valentina Petrillo (50) from Italy.
It makes sense a tranny is competing as a retarded person...
 
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