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[LavenderMenace]

What, in your view as a Farmer, should doctors and therapists do for people suffering from genuine gender dysphoria (not AGPs)?

Anti-Depressants, limit internet time, block social media sites, and letting teenagers live their life until 25 and then check back on them.

Teens don’t realize how much of your world changes when you leave high school/collage.

 

[The Judean People's Front]

What, in your view as a Farmer, should doctors and therapists do for people suffering from genuine gender dysphoria (not AGPs)?

Adding to the other Farmers whom I agree with, I'd say also education about how gender roles are bullshit and it's fine if you want to be a man named Sally who wears heels and makeup, but you're still a man. Idk if other Farmers are on board with that, y'all can be a more conservative bunch than I, but seriously how much easier would it be if that was how Troons handled shit?

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

What, in your view as a Farmer, should doctors and therapists do for people suffering from genuine gender dysphoria (not AGPs)?

We know that much of gender dysphoria is either homosexuality or autism.

Homosexuals simply need time to come terms with themselves and nothing more. It's pretty much a self healing problem where you only need to keep them from hurting themselves until they get better.

Autistic people otherhand need help to deal with autistic symptoms, especially adult routines and social skills. Puberty hits autistic kids harder than regular kids and they tend to need more help with growing up. It's a long term thing but has very little to do with gender issues all though it's different between boys and girls.

 

[LongDayAgain]

Adding to the other Farmers whom I agree with, I'd say also education about how gender roles are bullshit and it's fine if you want to be a man named Sally who wears heels and makeup, but you're still a man. Idk if other Farmers are on board with that, y'all can be a more conservative bunch than I, but seriously how much easier would it be if that was how Troons handled shit?

I'm conservative on some issues, libertarian on others. I am fine with defying traditional gender roles. I'm not exactly hyper-masculine either, and I think femboys and tomboys should be free to live as they want without being pressured into trooning out.

 

[Procrastinhater]

What, in your view as a Farmer, should doctors and therapists do for people suffering from genuine gender dysphoria (not AGPs)?

The two posts I quote below pretty much sum up my opinion

Treat them the same way they do with any other body dysmorphia.

We don't tell anorexics that their weight loss is so brave. It's still generally frowned upon (for now) to cut off the limbs of someone who thinks they should have been born with one leg.

Work with them to come to terms with the fact that they can never be the opposite sex. It’s cruel to pretend that they can change sex and crueller still to mutilate their bodies in pursuit of an impossible goal.

Gender dysphoria is no different to any other dysmorphia, it's a lack of self esteem and a warped body image.
For people who genuinely suffer from it, and aren't just fetish rotted AGP abominations, it must be a terrible neuroticism to have to live with, but the best treatment is to help them fin a way to do just that, it's the only form of dysmorphia that we "treat" by just agreeing with the patients delusions, despite the negative medical outcomes that come from the "affirmation" model.
We don't give anorexics Ozempic, and we don't blind people who think they should be born blind. We don't amputate the healthy limbs of body dysmorphia patients, but tell a doctor it's your penis you want to cut off or your tits instead of your legs, and the medical profession sees dollar signs and railroads people into devastating mutilation.

It's cynical money grubbing at the expense of people's health and it's fucking disgusting that these sick sociopathic ideologues get away with it.
It doesn't help a delusional patient to "affirm" their delusions, and this gendershit is the only delusion that the medical profession wants to "affirm" and a lot of it (outside the crazy activists) is entirely because of the profit motive in turning these people into lifelong patients.

An anorexic given Ozempic will die quick, theres only so many limbs you can amputate from a person who thinks they should have been born a torso, but Troons and Pooners require lifelong hormone replacement, plus regular "revisions" as their butchered typically go wrong straight away or have a short shelf life before something goes wrong.

 

[BlerdBjern]

What, in your view as a Farmer, should doctors and therapists do for people suffering from genuine gender dysphoria (not AGPs)?

Take em out back behind the shed and give em the "Old Yeller" special.

 

[Hassou Tobi]

I know you did the "not AGP" caveat but honestly I'm suspicious of "gender dysphoria." Maybe some people have it genuinely but so much of it seems from porn/social contagion. I think of the 40 year old married men who are happily having sex with women their whole lives who troon out and discuss how "my partner touched my penis and it just felt so wrong and bad! I have such intense genital dysphoria!" It's hard for me to believe this is genuine and not just people being influenced by too much social media/placebo. It's like how psychology majors all become convinced they have different mental disorders because they read about them all day. Except instead of getting perspective like the psychology majors they're told that they really will kill themselves if they don't cut their dicks off.

 

[LongDayAgain]

I know you did the "not AGP" caveat but honestly I'm suspicious of "gender dysphoria." Maybe some people have it genuinely but so much of it seems from porn/social contagion. I think of the 40 year old married men who are happily having sex with women their whole lives who troon out and discuss how "my partner touched my penis and it just felt so wrong and bad! I have such intense genital dysphoria!" It's hard for me to believe this is genuine and not just people being influenced by too much social media/placebo. It's like how psychology majors all become convinced they have different mental disorders because they read about them all day. Except instead of getting perspective like the psychology majors they're told that they really will kill themselves if they don't cut their dicks off.

I think gender dysphoria is a real thing, but transtrenders and AGPs have muddied the waters so badly it's hard to tell who legitimately has it anymore.

 

[SnergenFlergen]

I'd say also education about how gender roles are bullshit and it's fine if you want to be a man named Sally who wears heels and makeup, but you're still a man. Idk if other Farmers are on board with that, y'all can be a more conservative bunch than I, but seriously how much easier would it be if that was how Troons handled shit?

The 'gender role' thing is a whole other debate* (and it's always important to reiterate that the term was coined by notorious pedophile and child-mutilator John Money), but you do actually have something of a point there.

I think where trannies crossed the line of acceptability for a lot of people was when they went from "I'm a woman" to "I'm a woman and you must acknowledge me as such at all times, or else incur significant legal penalties". I don't give a shit what a grown adult wants to do to themselves or how they want to dress, but forcing others to comply and play along is where your personal choices start to infringe upon my agency.

So yes overall I agree, it would certainly be easier if troons were like that- but even if they were, their personal choices would still force me to have conversations with my children that (in a sane world) we would not be having. You know, the whole "Daddy, why is that overweight balding man wearing a dress?" talk.

Spoiler: *Gender role sperg

While I despise the term 'gender roles' due to it's provenance, what it describes is absolutely not bullshit. Men and women are built differently and for different purposes and so-called 'gender roles' are the behaviours that naturally come about as a result of those differences. Yes there are some external pressures in the form of societal expectations that influence it and those expectations differ from one culture to the next. But overall men and women are different and serve different complimentary purposes. Are there different ways to exist and operate within that framework? Sure. You do you, friendo. Just keep your deviance to yourself so civilized society can continue around you.

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

I think gender dysphoria is a real thing, but transtrenders and AGPs have muddied the waters so badly it's hard to tell who legitimately has it anymore.

I don't know what this is even supposed to mean, if someone wants to chop off their dick and "become a woman" he,
she or it is obviously severely disturbed - you could almost say dysphoric - about their gender.
They're all mentally ill and no one should get mutilated.
Edit: Especially agp coomers are the most delusional about it, even more so than the assumed "true" trannys - they are the ones who are all about the female soul trapped in the wrong body, less so the poor gay schmucks who get bullied into it. If anything, it's the other way around and these should be more treatable because for them it's really just a self contained delusion, less so for, say, a thai lady boy who happens to already kinda fit the bill without trying and is then even incentivized by society at large to go for it. Mass delusion is less treatable on the individual level - if society tips over we're stuck with this madness, like indians who have been castrating little boys for millenia. Which is what they're still tying to accomplish by now backpedlaing to "we just treated the wrong trannys".

 

[The Judean People's Front]

You know, the whole "Daddy, why is that overweight balding man wearing a dress?" talk.

Not to take the bait, but this take is retarded.

"Daddy why is that fat bald man wearing a dress?"
"Because he likes dresses, son. Who gives a fuck?"

There ya go.

Edit: @SnergenFlergen

Spoiler: we're veering way off topic, this should be on the Trans Deep-thoughts, off-topic thread, but

It's not someone "merely doing what they want" that I'm all for - it's someone doing what they want that has actually zero consequences in my life. Men wearing dresses has zero effect on me or others except "huh I feel a little uncomfortable because this is atypical in my culture." If the dress has his junk hanging out, then it effects others because it's sexually inappropriate. If he's using the women's restroom because a pretty dress makes him feel like a lady, then it's invading women's spaces and creating a threatening environment where sexual assault risk is heightened. But a dude walking around in, say, a loose cotton swing dress that hits him at the knee and no visible erection? Whatever, floats your boat, dude. It might look fucking stupid, but so does a lot of everyday fashion so who am I to complain about that? Teach your kids the difference between "that makes me uncomfortable because I haven't seen it before" and "that makes me uncomfortable because I'm actually being threatened." We will have way fewer assholes in society if you do.

 

[SnergenFlergen]

Not to take the bait, but this take is retarded.

"Daddy why is that fat bald man wearing a dress?"
"Because he likes dresses, son. Who gives a fuck?"

There ya go.

Not to reply to you, but can you explain how far the "because [that's what they like to do], son. Who gives a fuck" line of logic goes as far as you're concerned? Presumably you draw the line somewhere, or is someone merely doing what they want the only consideration for an action to be considered justifiable?

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

Not to reply to you, but can you explain how far the "because [that's what they like to do], son. Who gives a fuck" line of logic goes as far as you're concerned? Presumably you draw the line somewhere, or is someone merely doing what they want the only consideration for an action to be considered justifiable?

Since you're not replying to anyone specific, I would draw the line a genital mutilation. Which is why I don't agree with what you said earlier:

I don't give a shit what a grown adult wants to do to themselves or how they want to dress, but forcing others to comply and play along is where your personal choices start to infringe upon my agency.

It's important what others around us do and what it thought of as acceptable because it will come back to your kids or grand kids to haunt them. But just dressing like an idiot harms no one but the idiot and even the idiot can just stop doing it without any permanent harm - it's just clothing. The problem really is that people don't actually care about the /fa/ but actually about the "women" clothes on a man spook. There's just dressing good and dressing bad, some guys happen to look fish in women's clothes and most don't. That's all there is to know.

 

[Squid Bitch]

I think gender dysphoria is a real thing, but transtrenders and AGPs have muddied the waters so badly it's hard to tell who legitimately has it anymore.

Even if gender dysphoria is a real thing, why does that make it something that should be validated?

Anorexia is a real thing, but if an anorexic who felt distress at a BMI of 17 sought out a therapist to affirm their desire to get to a BMI of 13, a dietician to come up with a meal plan to cut calories, a psychiatrist to prescribe Ritalin to curb appetite, and a plastic surgeon to do lipo on whatever little fat they had left, every single one of those providers would lose their licenses for their obviously unethical treatments. But if a kid feels distress from gender dysphoria, it is somehow considered ethical to halt their growth and physical and mental development, pump them full of hormones, and start removing healthy organs.

We understand that we need to help anorexics learn to tolerate the distress and discomfort of living in a body they consider "wrong" rather than mutilate it, why should gender dysphoria be treated any differently?

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

What, in your view as a Farmer, should doctors and therapists do for people suffering from genuine gender dysphoria (not AGPs)?

Force them to read the SRS thread?

 

[Geraldine]

Can't fully decipher this one.
Does that mean I'm getting old?
Link . Archive

Anyone?

 

[The Judean People's Front]

Apparently fingender means "any female gender" and mingender means "any male gender", despite literally having "minge" in the word.

 

[Geraldine]

Nothing about 'findom" then?
And what is a luneboy?

I suspect they are just fucking with us.

 

[Positron]

And what is a luneboy?

A male or pooner lunatic.

 

[Geraldine]

A male or pooner lunatic.

I'm sure they are, but what did the self-identified luneboy mean?
Maybe I'm making a mistake assuming he meant something.
We already know words having meanings is not important to troons.