HBO House of the Dragon - Prequel of one of the most recent cultural trainwrecks

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So that's pretty much confirming that Season 3 is going to be centered around Rhaenyra/Alicent fanfic shipping, despite the fact Alicent shouldn't even be part of the story anymore
This'd be like me making a Pride and Prejudice TV series, but had Mr Darcy learn Ju Jitsu, fight a bear, and fuck all the Sisters at the end, then become king lol.

"I wanted to play around with the expectations of romance films"
 
This'd be like me making a Pride and Prejudice TV series, but had Mr Darcy learn Ju Jitsu, fight a bear, and fuck all the Sisters at the end, then become king lol.

"I wanted to play around with the expectations of romance films"
LMAO! I would watch that. Matthew Macfayden played Uhtred's father in The Last Kingdom and Edmund Reid in Ripper Street, the guy is a good actor. I know he's being more known for Succession (I think?), but he has an extense curriculum.

As much as Ryan Cuckdal is to blame for a lot of issues, it is clear that people were jumpy for Sara Hess [ -> ((())) ? She looks asiatic but "Hess" sounds Ashkenazic. Weird...] and for a good fucking reason. She shat over an entire series, but I'm more concerned for that boy she will ruin in the future. A show is just a show, but the other is an actual human. Sad...

Why can't these people just make their own crap instead of trying to insert their own fantasy? "Let's make Westeros a feminist fantasy" -> How about no? How about you GTFO?
 
As much as Ryan Cuckdal is to blame for a lot of issues, it is clear that people were jumpy for Sara Hess [ -> ((())) ? She looks asiatic but "Hess" sounds Ashkenazic.
She's adopted half Korean. Fun fact, 80-90% of single mothers in Korea abandon their babies to orphanages or in public bathrooms (compared to <1% of U.S.) due to not wanting the burden or societal shame. In typical feminist fashion Hess has decided not to hate her mom/women for it happening but instead her father/men.

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The future non-binary kid comment was due to her and the dyke wife doing some weird science experiment where they decided to play hot potato with IVF embryos between themselves and implant the kid without knowing which one of the two is actually the mother or the father, who one of the two sperm donors is one of the dyke's brother. This poor kid is going to have to walk around not knowing who his actual mother or father is or if his uncle is actually his dad.

There's also the problem that both of these lesbians have extensive genetic health conditions (Hess had a mastectomy for breast cancer) and the other wife has a lot of problems herself. This led to them having to doctor-shop clinics and try to find one who purposely didn't do genetic tests.

Sara did 6 egg retrievals & fertilizations total, and I did 4, tried twice more but cancelled them as I had stopped responding to the medication. Sara did a couple retrievals at one fertility clinic that grew the embryos to blastocyst & then did genetic testing. Only one out of 8 blastocysts tested as totally healthy. I did a cycle at that clinic as well, but of the 4 eggs they retrieved, 2 fertilized and neither made it to the blastocyst stage. This led us to move to a different fertility clinic whose philosophy was not to do genetic testing (particularly because we weren’t getting a ton of eggs each time, and they didn’t want to risk any procedure that might increase the chance of losing the embryo).

The kid is fucked. Who's my mom? Who's my uncle? Who's my dad? Do I have any of these genetic predispositions to cancer or host of other shit? Who knows! Thanks lesbomoms!

As for how we know any of this, they just openly brag about it because anything LGBTQ*NKKHG is 'stunning and brave' and not a sign of moral decay: https://pregnantish.com/profile-talia-osteen-sara-hess/
 
Once again, the shitposters come to save the day.


Aegon's actor Tom Glynn-Carney- a quite handsome man in real life, imo- actually talked in an interview about how the makeup department purposely uglified him. Apparently they were shooting to make him look as much like Chucky as possible. In a similar vein, Helaena's actress Phia Saban is cute IRL, but Helaena more often than not is styled and shot in a way that makes her look mid at the absolute best. It seems that if the cast isn't naturally ugly, they'll try to make them look as unappealing as possible because God fucking forbid we see hot people onscreen.
Once again, trying to make the Greens look worse because God forbid the audience sides with the patriarchy. But given how sloppy the so-called ''good guys'' are, and the fact that in a medieval societal context, having the king's firstborn son succeed over his daughter is seen as just normal, people will side with the Greens given that they have tradition on their side.

Book Rhaenyra becomes real fat after having her first child. It's indisputable, because it's part of her entire character. She's lazy and entitled. She never does anything for herself, only making others act for her, down to her own children who she sacrifices. She's so fat and lazy that when she sits on the iron throne after winning it the thing actually fucking stabs her, with one character saying it's because she's unworthy of being on the throne and another just saying 'nah it's cuz she's fucking fat'. GRRM makes it so comical that even her fucking dragon becomes fat and lazy and no longer knows how to hunt for itself, needing food brought to it even when not being caged up.
That's because back when GRRM wrote the book, it wasn't a girlboss feminist thing, it was him trying to paint all monarchs as flawed or evil in some way, so even the ''realm's delight'' looks like she raids cake stores on the weekends and she's downright malicious. Between having Daemon kill Vaemond and feeding the guy to her dragon, to throwing Alicent and Helaena into the brothel to get raped because she was ass-mad about the ''bastards'' accusation, Book Rhaenyra was not a heroine to be admired, but a fat, disgusting piece of shit to be despised.

Book Alicent is very much an evil stepmother trope who absolutely hates Rhaenyra, calling her a whore, voicing to groups of people that she hopes the whore dies in childbirth, etc. The show has stripped all of that away in a vain hope to fight ~misogyny in media~. Vain because they actually made Alicent more fucking evil than the book accidentally by having her purposely sacrifice her children's lives so she can chase after Rhaenyra, who they've decided to insert some not-so-subtle lesbian fanfic relationship with.
Once again, like I said, it's an act of Providence that these girlboss writers make their ''sympathetic'' female characters look worse instead of better. It goes to show how these writers have no sense of context or decency; they're the kind that would burn the world down if it denied them what they wanted. Just like Daenerys in Season 8 of GOT. If the world went full patriarchal, Dany burning KL would be OK in their eyes.

Is there some uggo lesbian cabal writing this season?
Most of the central male characters are put through some weird humiliation ritual, either by fucking his mom, using a prostitute as a mom replacement implying some weird shit or just describing into great detail how one's penis burst into flame.
Am I the only one noticing this shit?
Is this in the books?
No, in the books, the women are just as bad, if not worse than the men. See what I and others said about Book Rhaenyra and Alicent.

Speaking of Rhaenys, Sara Hess literally stated that she wrote the character as a representation of Hillary Clinton (lmao). In an interview with the LA Times, actress Eve Best revealed that Hess approached her and told her about this during her first day on set:

Sara Hess has been pushing the Rhaenicent romance narrative since Season 1. On her Twitter account, she's shared and praised articles about how Queen Alicent and Queen Rhaenyra "would rather co-rule Westeros".
Then that makes Alicent even stupider that she didn't groom Aegon II to marry Rhaenyra and groomed the boy to hate her instead. She could've made her bestie her daughter-in-law and secured her crown.

Hess has an overwhelming fixation on the Rhaenyra/Alicent relationship, to the point where it negatively impacts the development and screen time that other characters receive. The Dance of the Dragons was written as a war between Rhaenyra and Aegon II, with Alicent's character diminishing in importance after Viserys dies. At this point in the story, the key players in the war should be the younger generation, such as Aemond, Aegon, and Jacaerys. Despite this, Hess insists that the story should continue to revolve around the Rhaenyra/Alicent relationship instead of the literal civil war going on. She says this during the S2E8 BTS at 10:55:
Jeez loweez, no wonder GRRM wanted to distance himself from the show. That shipping was not in the books, but is now a central part of the show.

GRRM should've put his foot down and told HBO that he wants the rights to tell the producers to sod off if he sees something he doesn't like. Again, the fact that JK Rowling can have faithful adaptations of her books to the silver screen shows that it's not impossible for GRRM to have the same.

Ironically enough, it's the Viserys/Daemon performances in S1 that were the best things from the show, and now, they tossed that kind of nuance out to get their lesbo fanfiction into the TV show.

So that's pretty much confirming that Season 3 is going to be centered around Rhaenyra/Alicent fanfic shipping, despite the fact Alicent shouldn't even be part of the story anymore.
In the books, Alicent and her daughter Helaena were tossed into the brothels to get fucked because Rhaenyra was ass-mad about the ''whoring around and having bastards'' accusation. Then Helaena offs herself because of that, and the people riot and kill Rhaenyra's dragons, which is how she loses the war. So I suppose Alicent had the last laugh there.

As much as Ryan Cuckdal is to blame for a lot of issues, it is clear that people were jumpy for Sara Hess [ -> ((())) ? She looks asiatic but "Hess" sounds Ashkenazic. Weird...] and for a good fucking reason. She shat over an entire series, but I'm more concerned for that boy she will ruin in the future. A show is just a show, but the other is an actual human. Sad...
We can laugh at the former, but we need to pray for the latter.

The future non-binary kid comment was due to her and the dyke wife doing some weird science experiment where they decided to play hot potato with IVF embryos between themselves and implant the kid without knowing which one of the two is actually the mother or the father, who one of the two sperm donors is one of the dyke's brother. This poor kid is going to have to walk around not knowing who his actual mother or father is or if his uncle is actually his dad.

There's also the problem that both of these lesbians have extensive genetic health conditions (Hess had a mastectomy for breast cancer) and the other wife has a lot of problems herself. This led to them having to doctor-shop clinics and try to find one who purposely didn't do genetic tests.

The kid is fucked. Who's my mom? Who's my uncle? Who's my dad? Do I have any of these genetic predispositions to cancer or host of other shit? Who knows! Thanks lesbomoms!

As for how we know any of this, they just openly brag about it because anything LGBTQ*NKKHG is 'stunning and brave' and not a sign of moral decay: https://pregnantish.com/profile-talia-osteen-sara-hess/
Like I said, we need to pray for that kid. God help them if they have parents like that.

Why can't these people just make their own crap instead of trying to insert their own fantasy? "Let's make Westeros a feminist fantasy" -> How about no? How about you GTFO?
Nobody's stopping them from making their own lesbian fantasy series. But I suppose ruining ASOIAF is good because it's the work of a straight white man who writes rape scenes in his books.

This'd be like me making a Pride and Prejudice TV series, but had Mr Darcy learn Ju Jitsu, fight a bear, and fuck all the Sisters at the end, then become king lol.

"I wanted to play around with the expectations of romance films"
Playing with expectations is code word for bullshit writing these days. I'm getting sick and tired of it. It used to be cute back in the early 2000s, but now, it's clear that most writers don't have the chops to make such stories good.
 
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Jeez loweez, no wonder GRRM wanted to distance himself from the show. That shipping was not in the books, but is now a central part of the show.

GRRM should've put his foot down and told HBO that he wants the rights to tell the producers to sod off if he sees something he doesn't like. Again, the fact that JK Rowling can have faithful adaptations of her books to the silver screen shows that it's not impossible for GRRM to have the same.

Ironically enough, it's the Viserys/Daemon performances in S1 that were the best things from the show, and now, they tossed that kind of nuance out to get their lesbo fanfiction into the TV show.
Paddy Constantine and Matt Smith holding the series. GODS, THERE WAS So much promise BACK THEN. This almost reeks of bait and switch almost. GRRM should have done something to cancel this whole thing or at least say this crap is "not canon in his universe". I'm sure most of his fans would recognize (Guess those "nasty racists" where the first holding the line for things to come, huh?), yet whatever, HBO probably has rights too.
We can laugh at the former, but we need to pray for the latter.
Amen.
Nobody's stopping them from making their own lesbian fantasy series. But I suppose ruining ASOIAF is good because it's the work of a straight white man who writes rape scenes in his books.
Yeah... it's typical.
 
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Nobody's stopping them from making their own lesbian fantasy series.
You just know these kind of post-modern girlboss leftoid retard hack writers are too lazy, incompetent, stupid and retarded for that. I am just so tired of these cause seeking asshats that shit over every single story I kind of enjoy in my freetime to escape from the shitty clownworld these fuckers have created. I can only hope they continue to write themselves into a corner and the fanbase shits all over them like they did with GoT S7 and 8, so that this corporate clusterfuck dies off. Maybe we get a faithful adaptation in 20 years or something.
 
GRRM should've put his foot down and told HBO that he wants the rights to tell the producers to sod off if he sees something he doesn't like.
When he signed over the ASOIAF rights to HBO it was understood that whoever HBO hired would get the final say. But then HBO was purchased by the Discovery Channel and is now a dead brand at this point. So not only were the people like D&D able to just do whatever they wanted with ASOIAF when they made Game of Thrones. But now the people from Discovery and Warner Brothers can just sodomize the corpse of ASOIAF without GRRM being able to really do anything anymore other than either watch or look away in disgust.

It was already a stupid deal he signed with HBO in the first place. Because he naively thought that HBO would cancel the show after a few seasons but he'd at least get to see the Red Wedding and maybe a battle or two. But with Game of Thrones being more popular than A Song of Ice and Fire he has essentially signed over his entire creation and lost control over it. He never imagined that his books would be secondary to a Discovery and Warner Brothers show that the HBO brand would be phased out of existence.

Probably the majority of people working on Game of Thrones related adaptations have not read the books or even worked on the main series show. They are just making their own fan fiction within the ASOIAF universe. But I don't even think that D&D actually read the books either so that's nothing new as well.
 
Paddy Constantine and Matt Smith holding the series. GODS, THERE WAS So much promise BACK THEN. This almost reeks of bait and switch almost. GRRM should have done something to cancel this whole thing or at least say this crap is "not canon in his universe". I'm sure most of his fans would recognize (Guess those "nasty racists" where the first holding the line for things to come, huh?), yet whatever, HBO probably has rights too.
Paddy Considine's Viserys and Matt Smith's Daemon, those two are like Mario and Luigi. And now that Mario's dead, Luigi has to hold up the franchise. But this isn't Nintendo, so the writers just go with whatever makes them wet even if it fucks with the story. So we get Luigi's Mansion in Harrenhal but it's written by Yas Queen Slay types, so the whole journey serves to snip off Daemon's proverbial cock so that he becomes just like Jon ''MUH KWEEN'' Snow back in S8 of Game of Thrones. You know, the version of Jon Snow that people hated the most.

It's hard to imagine someone growing up healthy in such an environment, but miracles do happen, so keep that kid in your prayers.

Yeah... it's typical.
It's so typical, from ASOIAF, to Star Wars, to LOTR, it's one big bonanza for maladjusted social activists to ruin what fat, white men created.

It's basically a hobby of theirs.

You just know these kind of post-modern girlboss leftoid retard hack writers are too lazy, incompetent, stupid and retarded for that. I am just so tired of these cause seeking asshats that shit over every single story I kind of enjoy in my freetime to escape from the shitty clownworld these fuckers have created.
That's the point. They don't want you to escape the shitty clownworld they created. They want you to digest it even in fiction.

That's going to backfire on them terribly. One thing that made the Bush and Obama years bearable for the opposing team was that there was enough fiction for them to sink their heads in and forget the other guy who's ruling isn't theirs. You remove that, and you'll get an angry populace that will be hard to satisfy or calm down.

I can only hope they continue to write themselves into a corner and the fanbase shits all over them like they did with GoT S7 and 8, so that this corporate clusterfuck dies off. Maybe we get a faithful adaptation in 20 years or something.
Hopefully, we get a comic to cartoon adaptation where they can be as faithful as possible to the original setting. Hell, I'd love to see ASOIAF get handled anime-style. Just imagine the same people who did Berserk handling ASOIAF.

When he signed over the ASOIAF rights to HBO it was understood that whoever HBO hired would get the final say. But then HBO was purchased by the Discovery Channel and is now a dead brand at this point. So not only were the people like D&D able to just do whatever they wanted with ASOIAF when they made Game of Thrones. But now the people from Discovery and Warner Brothers can just sodomize the corpse of ASOIAF without GRRM being able to really do anything anymore other than either watch or look away in disgust.
That's the problem. GRRM shouldn't have made such a deal, he should've included in the deal that he'd be able to interfere and change things at will, kind of like how George Lucas used to interfere and change things in the Star Wars universe, in the expanded universe books as well as the cartoons and games. Before he sold out, that is. If I were GRRM, I'd have made it clear to HBO that I will be an active member of the writing team and that if anything they put in goes against my vision, it gets removed, pronto. If they refuse, I walk, take my books with me, and there's no adaptation at all. If JK Rowling can get faithful adaptations of her Harry Potter books on the silver screen, GRRM can do the same. That fat bastard just didn't try hard enough.

It was already a stupid deal he signed with HBO in the first place. Because he naively thought that HBO would cancel the show after a few seasons but he'd at least get to see the Red Wedding and maybe a battle or two. But with Game of Thrones being more popular than A Song of Ice and Fire he has essentially signed over his entire creation and lost control over it. He never imagined that his books would be secondary to a Discovery and Warner Brothers show that the HBO brand would be phased out of existence.
Basically, yes. Everyone calls it Game of Thrones even though it should be called ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' since Game of Thrones is just the title of the first book in the series. It goes to show how the HBO show is more definitive and well-known by the fanbase when compared to the books.

Probably the majority of people working on Game of Thrones related adaptations have not read the books or even worked on the main series show. They are just making their own fan fiction within the ASOIAF universe. But I don't even think that D&D actually read the books either so that's nothing new as well.
I heard Sean Bean at least made an effort to read the books. The Barristan Selmy actor, Ian McElhinney, read the books, and was surprised to see his character die since Ser Barristan is still alive in the books.

If GRRM really cared about ASOIAF he would actually finish the books

He doesn't give a fuck. Lazy fraud.
If GRRM actually cared, he'd finish the main seven books first before going into expanded universe and prequel materials like Fire and Blood or A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. I mean, at least George Lucas finished the original Star Wars trilogy first before letting the franchise go deep into Expanded Universe lore or the Prequel films, so the series would at least have a stable rock to serve as the foundation. GRRM's foundation for ASOIAF are five books that are supposed to be seven, that have yet to be finished, and should've been finished before the last seasons of Game of Thrones came out.
 
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Paddy Considine's Viserys and Matt Smith's Daemon, those two are like Mario and Luigi. And now that Mario's dead, Luigi has to hold up the franchise. But this isn't Nintendo, so the writers just go with whatever makes them wet even if it fucks with the story. So we get Luigi's Mansion in Harrenhal but it's written by Yas Queen Slay types, so the whole journey serves to snip off Daemon's proverbial cock so that he becomes just like Jon ''MUH KWEEN'' Snow back in S8 of Game of Thrones. You know, the version of Jon Snow that people hated the most.
That's... quite an anology. LoL, I like it. Yeah, Certainly no Nintendo.
It's hard to imagine someone growing up healthy in such an environment, but miracles do happen, so keep that kid in your prayers.
Sadly, I've never seen much examples of "rebel kids to degenerate parents" of looking well adjusted. They tend to be just as fucked up, but yeah... I hope he's okay. He has no guilt. Fuck this world.
Hopefully, we get a comic to cartoon adaptation where they can be as faithful as possible to the original setting. Hell, I'd love to see ASOIAF get handled anime-style. Just imagine the same people who did Berserk handling ASOIAF.
YES! Or Vinland Saga. That adaptation is great, and this is coming from someone who calls anime in general as "tranime". I know there's a tomboy (eugh, meaning boyish looking girl in the series) and they made Canute the Great a fucking girl-ish looking boy during his youth. Despite that, it's a solid adaptation. I don't see how this isn't possible to see in ASOIAF.
Basically, yes. Everyone calls it Game of Thrones even though it should be called ''A Song of Ice and Fire'' since Game of Thrones is just the title of the first book in the series. It goes to show how the HBO show is more definitive and well-known by the fanbase when compared to the books.
Don't get me started on how much I despise that. Same with "The Last Kingdom" is to The Saxon Chronicles/The Saxon Tales by Bernard Cornwell. It's the title of the first damn book. And now the same with "The Winter King", with The Warlord Chronicles.
If GRRM actually cared, he'd finish the main seven books first before going into expanded universe and prequel materials like Fire and Blood or A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. I mean, at least George Lucas finished the original Star Wars trilogy first before letting the franchise go deep into Expanded Universe lore or the Prequel films, so the series would at least have a stable rock to serve as the foundation. GRRM's foundation for ASOIAF are five books that are supposed to be seven, that have yet to be finished, and should've been finished before the last seasons of Game of Thrones came out.
I guess that's his fault for being a novella writer back in 1970s, writing collections rather than books. He followed a different format and decided to try it with his magnum opus.
 
If GRRM actually cared, he'd finish the main seven books first before going into expanded universe and prequel materials like Fire and Blood or A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.
He never finished anything. ASOIAF is unfinished, but Dunk and Egg and Fire and Blood as well.

He clearly doesn't give a fuck and fans trying to protect integrity of this sellout are hilarious.
 
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That's... quite an anology. LoL, I like it. Yeah, Certainly no Nintendo.
Comparing GRRM to the people who made Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess is like comparing an amateur fantasy writer to JRR Tolkien. Oh, wait, they actually called GRRM the Tolkien of the modern day, they really are that stupid.

ASOIAF has more in common with political thrillers than fantasy novels proper considering how shallow the fantasy aspects are in ASOIAF. Like I said before, GRRM wants us to think that the dragons are smart and sapient, yet they let some silver-haired incest mongrels turn them against each other even though all the dragons are supposed to be family and descended from the original three that Aegon the First used to conquer Westeros. If these overblown lizards had any brains, they'd have told the incest mongrels to knock it the fuck off with the baby-mama drama, refuse them a ride until they put this dispute behind them, and settle their disputes through trial by combat. It would make better sense for the Dance of Dragons if the Dragons were just brainless steeds that did whatever their riders told them to.

Then GRRM wants us to think that the Others, some necromancers with their own army of zombies, with obvious weaknesses to fire and obsidian, are some kind of existential threat to Westeros, when the Westerosi not only have an entire island made of obsidian that they could mine that's right next to the capital, but the capital also has their equivalent to Greek Fire in the form of Wildfire, meaning that the squabbling kings and lords could just send one of their own up north with both of these weapons and wipe out the Others, so they can get back to squabbling over that pointy chair of theirs.

And yes, we've heard a thousand tales about things like Asshai or Yi Ti, but we've yet to see them in the story proper. Things like the Warlocks of Qarth or the Many-Faced God are low fantasy at best.

Sadly, I've never seen much examples of "rebel kids to degenerate parents" of looking well adjusted. They tend to be just as fucked up, but yeah... I hope he's okay. He has no guilt. Fuck this world.
I've seen some examples where you have rebel kids to degenerate parents go full traditional authority because they hate their folks. But yes, we must keep our hopes up.

YES! Or Vinland Saga. That adaptation is great, and this is coming from someone who calls anime in general as "tranime". I know there's a tomboy (eugh, meaning boyish looking girl in the series) and they made Canute the Great a fucking girl-ish looking boy during his youth. Despite that, it's a solid adaptation. I don't see how this isn't possible to see in ASOIAF.
My point exactly. Anime is the medium of choice for dark fantasy in my opinion. I've seen enough dark fantasy anime to know it can work, and work well.

The problem is, GRRM and HBO. Are they favorable to anime? Would they even approve of it?

Don't get me started on how much I despise that. Same with "The Last Kingdom" is to The Saxon Chronicles/The Saxon Tales by Bernard Cornwell. It's the title of the first damn book. And now the same with "The Winter King", with The Warlord Chronicles.
It really goes to show how influential the TV show is over the novels. Which just goes to show how most plebs don't have the patience to read the fucking books. And why would they? The first three books are fine, but the last two books are just sidequest material padded out. It's the equivalent of those Skyrim players who are trying to do all the sidequests and grind all the skills before going to Alduin and playing the DLCs. Not the kind of stuff which would be good for novel material.

I guess that's his fault for being a novella writer back in 1970s, writing collections rather than books. He followed a different format and decided to try it with his magnum opus.
Which is stupid. Even in the 70s-90s, you had the examples of Lucas and Tolkien who at least finished their fucking works before doing things like the Silmarillion or the Thrawn Trilogy. There's just no excuse. GRRM should've finished the last two books by the time seasons 7 and 8 of Game of Thrones came out. Season 4 came out three years after the last book, that's when The Winds of Winter should've come out, and three years after that should've been when A Dream of Spring came out. If he had a regular release schedule, there'd already be a bevy of material ready for Seasons 5-8, so it wouldn't just be an outline or sidequest padding.

He never finished anything. ASOIAF is unfinished, but Dunk and Egg and Fire and Blood as well.

He clearly doesn't give a fuck and fans trying to protect integrity of this sellout are hilarious.
I remember one of GRRM's fans bashing Dan and Dave while saying ''The Spirit of Martin is with us'' in full seriousness.

I spat out my drink laughing my ass off when I heard that. GRRM is not as bad as DnD, but he's still pretty much a joke compared to real fantasy writers like JRR Tolkien and CS Lewis, much less JK Rowling, who actually managed to finish her books and get faithful adaptations of her work on the screen. And the fact that he won't finish his mainline series even though it serves as the bedrock for his IP just goes to show his lack of dedication.
 
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I dislike george rr martins religion or culture related world building he can create entertaining charecters for modern audiences but the religion or cultures he creates are generally pretty weak. The dornish are generic tan skin sexually liberated people. The dothraki are generic violent nomads. Every medieval charecter is some kind of atheist who doesnt respect religion
 
I dislike george rr martins religion or culture related world building he can create entertaining charecters for modern audiences but the religion or cultures he creates are generally pretty weak. The dornish are generic tan skin sexually liberated people. The dothraki are generic violent nomads. Every medieval charecter is some kind of atheist who doesnt respect religion
Which makes no goddamn sense. Even people back then who hated the Medieval Church and competed for power with the Pope, like Emperor Frederick II, still fought against enemies of Catholicism because the Faith is, as Tommen said in the show, a pillar upon which the world rests, along with the crown. Heck, the first part of Frederick II's written constitution, the Liber Augustalis, was about how heretics are enemies of God who should be struck down by the state. And Frederick II was a known opponent of the Church hierarchy who competed with them for power, waging wars with the Papacy in Italy. Yet even this guy was killing heretics because they were enemies of the Faith, and by extension, were enemies of society at large, and Frederick II knew that.

The fact that half the characters in this supposed medieval fantasy are atheist says more about GRRM than it does about Westeros. It shows me that, aside from the fact that his opinions on religion are the basic skeptic stuff, his research on the Medieval world is sorely lacking.

And don't get me started again on the Dornish. Them being tan skin sexually liberated people are the least of their problems. But them defeating dragons when they can't even take the Reach is fucking hilarious. Especially when Aegon took the Reach and the Westerlands in the very same battle. The fact that their land is mostly desert with a few places that could be farmed would've made it even easier for fire-breathing dragons to burn the land and force them to surrender. Just burn the part that can be farmed, or send an army to torch it, then send a fleet to blockade their ports, and it's game over.
 
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GRRM is not as bad as DnD
He is maybe better fantasy writer but he is a worse person, annoying with his endless self pitying and victim mentality.

He betrayed his fans. He betrayed HBO and D&D in a way.

He is not victim in any way. He earned millions and millions of dollars on something he is not capable of finishing, he sold a false promise and never got the blame he deserves for his failures.
 
He is maybe better fantasy writer but he is a worse person, annoying with his endless self pitying and victim mentality.

He betrayed his fans. He betrayed HBO and D&D in a way.

He is not victim in any way. He earned millions and millions of dollars on something he is not capable of finishing, he sold a false promise and never got the blame he deserves for his failures.
My point exactly. GRRM being treated like a victim by his fans is always amusing. In a way, he gave them Dan and Dave, he's the one who picked those two because they figured out R plus L equals J. Him trying to pass off Westeros as realistic to the Medieval world to excuse his sadism porn is an insult to anyone who studied Medieval history. All he did was take the typical dystopia and dress it up in Medieval characteristics.

People keep saying that the books won't end like the show, but the way Season 8 handled the Others as well as the ending, it reeks of Martin's endless desire to subvert expectations. It probably is the reason why he's so slow with the books, his ending just got revealed and people hated the fuck out of it. He's probably shitting bricks over how to end the series, and hasn't figured it out yet.

And to think that there's still people who defend him is hilarious. A children's fantasy writer like JK Rowling could finish her books on time AND get a faithful adaptation to the screen. But GRRM could not. That just reeks of bullshit from where I'm looking at it. If JK Rowling could do it, GRRM could do it, too. He just doesn't have the balls to try hard enough.
 
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The fact that half the characters in this supposed medieval fantasy are atheist says more about GRRM than it does about Westeros. It shows me that, aside from the fact that his opinions on religion are the basic skeptic stuff, his research on the Medieval world is sorely lacking.
Most of the religions in this setting confer no-shit superpowers. The idea that secular atheism is an operative philosophy here is just retarded.
 
My point exactly. GRRM being treated like a victim by his fans is always amusing. In a way, he gave them Dan and Dave, he's the one who picked those two because they figured out R plus L equals J. Him trying to pass off Westeros as realistic to the Medieval world to excuse his sadism porn is an insult to anyone who studied Medieval history. All he did was take the typical dystopia and dress it up in Medieval characteristics.

People keep saying that the books won't end like the show, but the way Season 8 handled the Others as well as the ending, it reeks of Martin's endless desire to subvert expectations. It probably is the reason why he's so slow with the books, his ending just got revealed and people hated the fuck out of it. He's probably shitting bricks over how to end the series, and hasn't figured it out yet.

And to think that there's still people who defend him is hilarious. A children's fantasy writer like JK Rowling could finish her books on time AND get a faithful adaptation to the screen. But GRRM could not. That just reeks of bullshit from where I'm looking at it. If JK Rowling could do it, GRRM could do it, too. He just doesn't have the balls to try hard enough.
George probably cant even finish the book by himself if he had 10 years. I wish george woudl swallow his pride and hire ghost writers to help him write faster.
 
Most of the religions in this setting confer no-shit superpowers. The idea that secular atheism is an operative philosophy here is just retarded.
Exactly. I mean, nobody doubts the power of the Daedric Princes in Elder Scrolls, the Chaos Gods in Warhammer, or the Holy Light in Warcraft. That shit actually works. People can see it. They have empirical evidence that God, or whatever kind of God these people worship, is real. Atheism should be deader than dead. Especially with the Lord of Light religion, the Many-Faced God, and the Old Gods.

There's also the fact that Faith of the Seven are the strongest faith in southern Westeros, but they don't have actual superpowers. Which makes no goddamn sense when one religion has magical assassins, and another has priests who can literally RAISE PEOPLE FROM THE DEAD like it's Jesus Christ raising Lazarus from the grave. But I suppose GRRM's explanation for the Faith of the Seven having any real power is ''hurr durr superstitious medieval people manipulated by religion'' even though half the Westerosi morons you run into are atheists.

George probably cant even finish the book by himself if he had 10 years. I wish george woudl swallow his pride and hire ghost writers to help him write faster.
That's probably how the series will end. GRRM takes the millions he's earned from the HBO spinoffs, pays off a skilled ghostwriter, who then cobbles together something decent from the notes, outlines, and other crap GRRM had planned for The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring.
 
Exactly. I mean, nobody doubts the power of the Daedric Princes in Elder Scrolls, the Chaos Gods in Warhammer, or the Holy Light in Warcraft. That shit actually works. People can see it. They have empirical evidence that God, or whatever kind of God these people worship, is real. Atheism should be deader than dead. Especially with the Lord of Light religion, the Many-Faced God, and the Old Gods.

There's also the fact that Faith of the Seven are the strongest faith in southern Westeros, but they don't have actual superpowers. Which makes no goddamn sense when one religion has magical assassins, and another has priests who can literally RAISE PEOPLE FROM THE DEAD like it's Jesus Christ raising Lazarus from the grave. But I suppose GRRM's explanation for the Faith of the Seven having any real power is ''hurr durr superstitious medieval people manipulated by religion'' even though half the Westerosi morons you run into are atheists.


That's probably how the series will end. GRRM takes the millions he's earned from the HBO spinoffs, pays off a skilled ghostwriter, who then cobbles together something decent from the notes, outlines, and other crap GRRM had planned for The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring.
I agree with you man. Did you see the video where it was predicated that george would winds in 2032.
 
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