Debate @Hollywood Hulk Hogan about why banning porn is retarded

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[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

You mean like human trafficking laws and CSAM Laws?

Which one of these will remove porn, a shitfuck cesspit through which human traffickers operate?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Banning porn is unconstitutional. It's freedom of speech.

And where do you draw the line? Do you ban movies with tits in them? Movies with sex scenes? Movies with real sex scenes?

And better yet, allow people to run their own damn lives instead of forcing your bible thumping shit on them. If someone wants to make porn, let them make porn. It's supposed to be a free country

 

[Spud]

It's freedom of speech.

I disagree, it's a product. Legal adults filming themselves having sex and selling said video to others for monetary gain.

Which one of these will remove porn, a shitfuck cesspit through which human traffickers operate?

Are those traffickers in the room with us now? You don't care about the victims you just want to force your beliefs down everyone else's throat. Considering the increase of immigration from 3rd worlders you want something like porn to keep them pacified to make sure they don't chimp-out. Now if someone who's broken the law using a public platform like pornhub to showcase their acts the platform must obey the law and report said act to LEO's. I understand in slav land you don't have laws regarding the possession of this stuff, that doesn't mean everywhere else share the same laws.

 

[Pool's Closed Due to AIDS]

Pornhub by being a LEGAL REGISTERED CORPORATION are by law forced to work with US government, when people uploaded the illegal stuff they cooperate with LEO and take it down and evidence is given.

https://www.newsweek.com/pornhub-still-crime-scene-even-after-its-rebrand-opinion-1927282

O rly

 

[Spud]

https://www.newsweek.com/pornhub-still-crime-scene-even-after-its-rebrand-opinion-1927282

O rly

Like I said, in a perfect world but this is not a perfect world. Also you're surprised Jews are trying to skirt the law?

 

[Pool's Closed Due to AIDS]

Banning porn is unconstitutional. It's freedom of speech.

How

And where do you draw the line? Do you ban movies with tits in them? Movies with sex scenes?

Suspiciously similar arguments to the ones made by the "the age of consent is just like...arbitrary man" people.

Movies with real sex scenes?

So, porn.

Like I said, in a perfect world but this is not a perfect world. Also you're surprised Jews are trying to skirt the law?

You've gone from
"keep porn legal because otherwise it'll go underground and there is harm"
to
"well yeah illegal activity involving harm is happening on the legal porn sites anyway. Lmao Jews"

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Are those traffickers in the room with us now? You don't care about the victims you just want to force your beliefs down everyone else's throat.

I don't give a donkey's rat what you or someone else believes. Porn is shit, it's industry people are less than shit and everyone involved in it are shit too. It's a vile, degrading industry that has provided nothing to society, only harmed everyone involved and it should not exist.
This isn't a political opinion, it is absolute fact.

Considering the increase of immigration from 3rd worlders you want something like porn to keep them pacified to make sure they don't chimp-out.

What the fuck are you event talking about?
I swear, the more I read your shit, the more deranged you sound. At least here we have another example of what porn does to a person's brain, what little of it there is.

Now if someone who's broken the law using a public platform like pornhub to showcase their acts the platform must obey the law and report said act to LEO's.

When the law is enforced. There was a time when child pornography was available on pronhub and the owners did fuck all until the cops started looking into it. And that's just pornhub. Who's enforcing all the other 999 pornsites? You can't put a cop next to every criminal, but you can pass laws and enforce a ban on this type of shit.
Internet businessmen are bitches anyway, it should be easy to do. Consider that my political opinion.

I understand in slav land you don't have laws regarding the possession of this stuff, that doesn't mean everywhere else share the same laws.

Fuck off nigger. In slav land we don't have troons running around with dildos in their ass in public either, nor do we tolerate degenerate retards in our public spaces. Maybe you bigshot westerners could learn a thing from us poor molerat slavlanders in basic human dignity and decency. It might stop your grandma from crying for 2 seconds.

 

[Pool's Closed Due to AIDS]

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[Spud]

"keep porn legal because otherwise it'll go underground and there is harm"

Keep porn legal cause two consenting adults filming themselves having sex for money by posting it to the public Internet is not something that breaks the law. Someone posting videos of themselves abusing children or Trafficking victims breaks the law.

"well yeah illegal activity involving harm is happening on the legal porn sites anyway. Lmao Jews"

That they should be punished for, by law they have to report said content to which it is then removed from the public place where it was uploaded to. To punish the legal porn sites you'd have to violate section 230 of the communications decency act unless they refuse to cooperate via subpoena and/or warrant/s. In a perfect world those kikes would have cooperated or face extreme punishment but instead they have friends in high places who help them skirt the law and leaves us arguing over one another with pointless "so what you're saying is" statements that help and solve nothing.

 

[Pool's Closed Due to AIDS]

Keep porn legal cause two consenting adults filming themselves having sex for money by posting it to the public Internet is not something that breaks the law. Someone posting videos of themselves abusing children or Trafficking victims breaks the law.

Which goes back to the argument about whether someone can consent to sex when money is exchanged.

Who's doing the checks to see if both parties consented and there was no coercion involved?
Because those are already supposed to exist...and yet

If someone consents to having their legs chopped off and this is filmed and put on the internet, this is okay because consent?

That they should be punished for, by law they have to report said content to which it is then removed from the public place where it was uploaded to. To punish the legal porn sites you'd have to violate section 230 of the communications decency act unless they refuse to cooperate via subpoena and/or warrant/s. In a perfect world those kikes would have cooperated or face extreme punishment but instead they have friends in high places who help them skirt the law and leaves us arguing over one another with pointless "so what you're saying is" statements that help and solve nothing.

Why are you referencing a US law?
Are you aware that other countries exist and that your laws are not applicable to us?
To ban pornography would involve more than the US Legal system.

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

Honestly, just go ahead and try to make porn illegal. Let's see how fast the monkey's paw turns into a fist when your internet traffic is being explicitly watched and regulated, because that's the only effective way you can enforce this ban. No KF user should be advocating for bans that can only feasibly be enforced by internet censorship and government control, because this site would be the in the first wave of things to get banned. There's plenty of NSFW content here that would need to be wiped, and we'd no longer be allowed to keep evidence of how degenerate a lot of lolcows are.

 

[Spud]

Are you aware that other countries exist and that your laws are not applicable to us?

Considering how liberally people outside the US use DMCA's to take down what they don't like does it? If it's a case of you live in a country that doesn't punish people for HT and CSAM that sounds like a you problem.

If someone consents to having the legs chopped off and this is filmed and put on the internet, this is okay because consent?

We already let them invert their genitalia so why not? You can't regulate stupidity away so you may as well enforce Authoritarian policies to make sure people don't get a paper cut. Shit we already do allow it to happen we just have a clause saying it needs to be a fictional depiction like how a horror movie would show people getting sliced and diced.

Which goes back to the argument about whether someone can consent to sex when money is exchanged.

We already allow people the agency to exchange their time for money but we don't argue about whether or not they're coerced into it because of the money. If a consenting adult wants to sell sex as a service outside of health checks that flag STD's and the sort that would cause issues do they have that agency?

Who's doing the checks to see if both parties consented and there was no coercion involved?

That would be a collaboration between Government, the platform that hosts the content and an organization dedicated to stopping the proliferation of CSAM and HT. Official paperwork with a Notary seal, including official documents of identification, clean bill of health from a doctor and confirmation from the NCCASP and the like ensuring they have the conscious agency to make the decision.

 

[Pool's Closed Due to AIDS]

Let's see how fast the monkey's paw turns into a fist when your internet traffic is being explicitly watched and regulated, because that's the only effective way you can enforce this ban.

Is there CSAM on this website?
Are we distributing controlled substances?
Are we selling biological weapons here?

Funny how this site and many others can enforce bans on the above (and many other things) without freeze peach being impacted.
Funny how we can regulate and control the usage of many things on the planet, but it is impossible to do with porn.

@Spud, this reply is for you too.

Still waiting for @Hollywood Hulk Hogan to explain the freedom of speech angle or why I should give a shit about the US Constitution

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

Is there CSAM on this website?
Are we distributing controlled substances?
Are we selling biological weapons here?

Funny how this site and many others can enforce bans on the above (and many other things) without freeze peach being impacted.
Funny how we can regulate and control the usage of many things on the planet, but it is impossible to do with porn.

@Spud, this reply is for you too.

Still waiting for @Hollywood Hulk Hogan to explain the freedom of speech angle

You're comparing porn, images of legal adults without clothes on, to three things that are WAY more dangerous and magnitudes more morally reprehensible.
Porn on its own is also about 1000x bigger and more widespread than CSAM by itself, maybe about 10x bigger than drugs, and unfathomably more prevalent than biological weapons being distributed on the internet. "Funny how we can regulate nuclear weapons but we can't regulate porn! SOCIETY!"

I see the problem now. I wouldn't say banning porn is retarded, but you certainly are a giant fucking retard.

 

[Spud]

this reply is for you too.

This is an adult website that despite not being pornographic in nature does host archived content from OF as it pertains to one or more of the people this website talks about and has fair use cases supporting the ability to talk about these people and the content they produce, Like Anisa, Trisha Paytas, Momokun and other E-thots. By expanding the definition of what constitutes pornography to include the mere discussion of people who either partake in viewing or producing sites like this that are for adults but not for pornographic content would fall under threat. Besides what the other guy is talking about already comes from the hands of private companies and banks colluding with one another behind the scenes. Force banks to process legal transactions and companies that make the backbone of the Internet host legal websites and this site would easily be able to finance itself.

Funny how this site and many others can enforce bans on the above (and many other things) without freeze peach being impacted.

It's like its a US legal website that complies with the laws of the country it's hosted in. Fed post too hard and you info gets given to the feds cause it's the law the website has to follow. A very interesting concept I'm glad you brought that up and I think other sites like Pornhub would greatly benefit from having the same enforcement put upon it.

 

[Pool's Closed Due to AIDS]

You're comparing porn, images of legal adults without clothes on, to three things that are WAY more dangerous and magnitudes more morally reprehensible.
Porn on its own is also about 1000x bigger and more widespread than CSAM by itself, maybe about 10x bigger than drugs, and unfathomably more prevalent than biological weapons being distributed on the internet. "Funny how we can regulate nuclear weapons but we can't regulate porn! SOCIETY!"

It's bigger because we let it be bigger.
It was not the case even a decade ago.

Again this argument holds no water.
People in the 50s would have laughed if you told them cigarettes would be regulated to the point they are now.
Asbestos used to be used as a building material up till the 1980s.
Slavery was legal and I could go on and on.

"It's widespread" is not an argument.

I see the problem now. I wouldn't say banning porn is retarded, but you certainly are a giant fucking retard

Because you can't construct logical arguments, you resort to name calling.
Why not just call me a Nazi like Redditfags do?

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This is an adult website that despite not being pornographic in nature does host archived content from OF as it pertains to one or more of the people this website talks about and has fair use cases supporting the ability to talk about these people and the content they produce, Like Anisa, Trisha Paytas, Momokun and other E-thots. By expanding the definition of what constitutes pornography to include the mere discussion of people who either partake in viewing or producing sites like this that are for adults but not for pornographic content would fall under threat. Besides what the other guy is talking about already comes from the hands of private companies and banks colluding with one another behind the scenes. Force banks to process legal transactions and companies that make the backbone of the Internet host legal websites and this site would easily be able to finance itself.

So naked pictures of people exist on here, so therefore porn can't be banned.
Walk me through that.
Because we're back to "it still exists anyway so why bother enforcing it all"?

Side note: What exactly is the net gain to a user that we can see Anisa, Trishas etc titties or vulva?

It's like its a US legal website that complies with the laws of the country it's hosted in. Fed post too hard and you info gets given to the feds cause it's the law the website has to follow. A very interesting concept I'm glad you brought that up and I think other sites like Pornhub would greatly benefit from having the same enforcement put upon it.

But Pornhub does have that enforcement on it. They didn't comply.

You're also now disagreeing with @Lightsaber Dildo because you're asking for even greater glowie oversight of the internet in order to police this.

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

It's bigger because we let it be bigger.
It was not the case even a decade ago.

Again this argument holds no water.
People in the 50s would have laughed if you told them cigarettes would be regulated to the point they are now.
Asbestos used to be used as a building material up till the 1980s.
Slavery was legal and I could go on and on.

"It's widespread" is not an argument.

Because you can't construct logical arguments, you resort to name calling.
What not just call me a Nazi like Redditfags do?

My arguement isn't "it's widespread" little autist, it's "this is the internet we're talking about" and when you are banning porn, you will not make any headway without dire irreversible consequences for your privacy.

Okay retard, if you can explain to me how porn would be banned without a governing body monitoring the internet, I will tell you why it won't make a difference.

 

[Pool's Closed Due to AIDS]

My arguement isn't "it's widespread" little autist, it's "this is the internet we're talking about" and when you are regulating porn, you will not make any headway without dire irreversible consequences for your privacy.

I'm on the internet now and not dealing drugs.
Drug dealing and consumption is widespread.
So is slavery.
I'm not doing either.

This isn't a porn site, Null polices the content just fine and this doesn't invade my privacy.

Okay retard, if you can explain to me how porn would be banned without a governing body monitoring the internet, I will tell you why it won't make a difference.

Remove the sites.
Penalties to sites owners who host it.
Penalties for downloading

Same thing we do for other illegal activities. There are already multiple governing bodies monitoring the internet and private corpos.

Do you know what glowies are?

 

[AgendaPoster]

For the same reason that every other form of prohibition is retarded.

Is prohibiting sex with minors retarded?
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JFC how many coomers do we even have in these forums?
Why do you need porn?
Have sex with women.
You can't?
Why should I care? Use your imagination and deal with it, improve yourself, or just make peace with the fact that not everyone is supposed to have sex.
I am now leaning more and more towards banning porn simply to spite coomers and lolberts.