EU Founder and CEO of encrypted messenger Telegram questioned in France - Telegram founder Pavel Durov detained on arriving in France from Azerbaijan. shit is VERY BAD

https://www.tf1info.fr/justice-fait...ee-telegram-interpelle-en-france-2316072.html ( archived https://archive.ph/edvkC )

Pavel Durov, the founder and CEO of the encrypted messaging Telegram, was arrested around 8 p.m. this Saturday evening when he got off his private jet on the Tarmac of Bourget Airport. This 39-year-old, this Franco-Russian was accompanied by her bodyguard and a woman.

The arrest was carried out by the gendarmes of the GTA (gendarmerie of air transport). Boarded at the FPR (File of Les Persons sought), Pavel Durov arrived straight from Azerbaijan. Above the head he had a French research mandate issued by the OFMIN of the National Directorate of the French Judicial Police issued on the basis of a preliminary investigation.
Why was he under the threat of a research mandate?
Justice considers that the absence of moderation, cooperation with the police and the tools proposed by Telegram (disposable number, cryptocurrencies ...) makes it accomplice of drug trafficking, pedocriminal offenses and scam.

This research mandate ran if, and only if, Pavel Durov was on the national territory. "He committed a dumpling tonight. We don't know why ... was this flight only a step? In any case, he is boxed!", Slips a source close to the investigation at TF1/ LCI. Since he had known himself persona non grata in France, Pavel Durov used to travel to the Emirates, in the countries of the ex-USSR, in South America ... He traveled very little in Europe and avoided the countries where Telegram is under surveillance.

And now ?
Investigators of the ONAF (National Antifraude Office attached to the Customs Department) notified him and placed him in police custody. It should be presented to an investigating judge this Saturday evening before a possible indictment on Sunday for a multitude of offenses: terrorism, narcotics, complicity, fraud, laundering, concealment, pedocriminal content ...

"Pavel Durov will end up in pre -trial detention, for sure," comments an investigator from TF1/LCI. "On his platform, he suggested an incalculable number of crimes and crimes for which he does nothing to moderate or cooperate," analyzes a source close to the file.

His pre -trial detention at the end of his indictment is in fact no doubt. Pavel Durov, a billionaire, has substantial means for fleeing and its guarantees of representation will hardly convince the judges.

A draft to international resonance
For investigators, this draft with international resonance with various objectives. First, it allows you to kick the anthill, impress and dissuade the authors of crimes and crimes which, so far freely, on Telegram. Then, they aim to put pressure on European countries to accentuate the common work to bend the encrypted messaging on terrorist files.

Indeed, Telegram is a hive for criminal content. At the moment, the platform is making the news with the illegal broadcast of Ligue 1. matches but on this encrypted messaging, many accounts are used by organized crime. Beyond terrorism, the most dangerous pedocriminals communicate on Telegram to exchange content. "For years it has become the number 1 platform for organized crime," comments an investigator.

 

[Alexander Thaut]

never forgive the french

 

[Chunky Salsa]

I gotta...I er,I gotta go delete some messages on telegram. A lot of messages on telegram

 

[The Feline Solution]

There is something deeply ironic about all the American hacker/privacy advocate ex-pats in Germany. I guess they think being far left antifascist cunts will protect them, eh?

I didn't know about the ex-pat thing. Germany has good privacy laws for the average citizen but those definitely don't expand to the internet or at least politicians want to actively take away those privacy rights when it comes to anything done online. It feels like every few weeks some out of touch politician comes up with a new plan to do that, each one being more and more reminiscent of old GDR/Stasi methods. In the politician caste here there's also a fundamental misunderstanding about how the internet works, even when it comes to the more simple mechanics.

Oh, I agree with that completely. I just don't believe the French government is being sincere about why they arrested the owner. Do you think they would arrest the CEO of Google because pedophiles use Drive and Gmail to share their dirty wares?

At least Google does the bare minimum and checks hashes of attachments against their, probably vast, database of child abuse imagery, there's been more than a few pedos who are now behind bars because they traded their shit over fucking Gmail like the retards that they are.

 

[Precursor James]

from a 2018 article:

https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/2018/08/28/779206-durov

https://t.me/durov_russia/10

there's something else going on here

 

[Frenzy of Sharks]

Musk will need to stay out of Europe.

The EU is already hinting at banning Twitter for the EU member states because Elon Musk refuses to ban hate speech and what the EU determines as misinformation.

Kim Dotcom probably going to court in America, Telegram's CEO got arrested, and the EU probably going to give Twitter the boot; I think it's intentional.

Pedophilia has nothing to do with anything (as usual.) It's all about the governments not wanting its people to have access to unfiltered and accurate information on what is happening around them and in the world at large. The UK protests against immigration, sparked by that black chimp who killed three little white girls showcased to the EU the same it showcased to the UK government - that their whole system is very fragile and that it's barely holding together. This will/has ushered in a new age of censorship and tyranny. Pedophilia is still one of the rare things that makes NPCs and normalfaggots to freak out, so they're using it a cover.

The 'muh-think of the children' argument has always been one of the big rallying cries for tyrants; right next to fear mongering about terrorists, appeal to emotion through religion, and blind nationalism for a government.

Why is this the case? Because power hungry governments know that the best way to dupe a population is by going after the lowest hanging fruit. They know they can pull the heartstrings of useful idiots in order to convince a population to surrender their rights in the name of "safety".

I've always been wary of politicians and governments that say they're doing it "For the Children". Whenever I see someone say they want to save kids, I ask myself this question; do they really want to help kids or is there a more sinister motive involved? (Such as wanting unchecked power).

Don't get me wrong, society does have an obligation to bring child predators to justice but I never liked how politicians use this to try to gain more unchecked power for themselves and the useful idiots that surrender their rights to create a surveillance state just to stop a few predators or stop a few terrorists in society.

Beware of the moralfags because the moralfag will gaslight you and manipulate you through tugging your heartstrings through appeals to emotion and appeals to authority and then screw you over in the end when you foolishly surrender your rights. That is the end result. Be wary of what someone is trying to sell you because if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is; don't buy poison that results in you having no rights anymore in the end.

 

[Otterly]

It’s funny how they break up or compromise these apps ‘for the children’ and yet they never seem to make any headway at all in actually getting some of the millions of abusers and trafficking rings into jail isn’t it? How we can’t speak freely, but the very obvious grooming gangs were allowed to operate with impunity?

Had a bus protesting the Opening Ceremony of the Olympics.

I hadn’t heard about this, thanks for posting it

What is the final solution to the French Question?

The entire leadership gets to choose between Madame G or a diet of Greggs for the rest of their life.
I’m curious whether he landed in France voluntarily or ‘was landed.’

 

[Inspector Rex]

Well in that sense you can argue that you are never safe from glowies, since you still have all the hardware backdoors.

Oh, absolutely, if glowies want to get you specifically, you can't really live a normal life anymore. I was talking about evading mass survelliance.

 

[Glowie]

Yet fucking Discord gets a free pass.
Fucking french cuckolds.
Time to fork the shit out of telegram then.

 

[World in Scarlet]

Combining an extreme lack of privacy with an extreme lack of moderation isn't a great design decision.
Telegram is an excellent source for news, but it also has big issues that are going undressed. Apparently in a way that rises to the level of criminal liability.

I assume the people in this tread bitching about freeze peach are merely retarded and not pedophiles, pornographers, or scammers who are butthurt their business might get impacted, but as the recent high profile ban of that CSAM enthusiast from here showed, you never know.

Idk whether this was mentioned before, but telegram is used by the military for command and data sharing purposes, like doing BDA or calling in artillery or air strikes.
Discord is too, since it's such a versatile communications suite. It can even display live drone feeds and you can voice call and host files on it, have segregated servers, set up different channel visibility for different groups of people, etc.

Edit
I want to remind people that running a drug market place is also illegal, even in the USA.

 

[FunPosting101]

Honestly, modern France can go fuck itself, it's blatant bullshit that they're actually charging him for this.

 

[Baked Buu]

What's left that's 'safe' now? Signal?

 

[AnotherPleb]

I love how you burgers like to class Europe as a single country like the US.

If the EU issues a diktat can a nation in the EU tell them to pound sand?

Might as well be with how the EU has more legal control over every country in it's umbrella as time goes on. Accept the encroaching federalization of your region europoor!

The EU is the US without the ability do directly elect any of their main officials.

 

[Fastest Hand In The East]

you are guilty of pedophilia and murder because you didn't moderate your product, that you own, to our satisfaction and you didn't take down The Hate Speech

Always remember, folks- this is what EU's "freedom of speech" looks like, this example right here.

 

[Orthodox]

I never even used Telegram beyond browser previews, now I'm curious.

 

[AnotherPleb]

You should expect to feel safe in your own country.

Should is carrying a lot of weight there.

Sorry I went to Niggerland II(Europe) this year and none of that is true.

The big difference between US and Europe is that the browns that Europe tends to import are devil worshippers that lust for war and dominion. A literal ticking time bomb in the heart of society.

Don't forget that Europe went out of its way to make protesting against the imported invasion illegal.

French news BFMTV just claimed that the warrants were issued minutes before he landed. If any one clipped that please post the video.

...never mind, this shit was 100% done at America's behest now.

Um... how?

You presume that the landing was voluntary. If he wasn't landing in France previously, that suggests him landing there now was likely a result of a) being forced down while overflying b) bomb threats c) mechanical sabotage d) subverted pilots.

Considering that the warrants were issued in the plane's final approach I'm calling some gigafaggotry here.

 

[World in Scarlet]

Always remember, folks- this is what EU's "freedom of speech" looks like, this example right here.

I'm pretty sure you're required to remove illegal content from your platform in the US too.
Null also cooperates with all lawful requests by US authorities.

 

[AnotherPleb]

I'm pretty sure you're required to remove illegal content from your platform in the US too.
Null also cooperates with all lawful requests by US authorities.

The difference is in what's not considered lawful in the US compared to the European Economic Zone.

 

[World in Scarlet]

The difference is in what's not considered lawful in the US compared to the European Economic Zone.

> Ofmin, which is responsible for combating violence against minors, had issued a warrant for his arrest.

 

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I want to remind people that running a drug market place is also illegal, even in the USA.

fuck your shithole country

 

[World in Scarlet]

fuck your shithole country

You're such a child.
Freedom ain't free. If you allow absolutely everything, you enable the trading of CSAM, financial scams, frauds, and other crimes.
It is possible to allow people to express their opinion without allowing, for example, the exploitation of minors.
This guy sounds like one of those lolbert faggots who thinks EVERYTHING should be permissible, so why jump to conclusions? Wait to see what they have on him and what happens next.