Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

It’s hilarious. MtF idiot thinks he needs to cultivate his vaginal flora and so shouldn’t wash his rothole out - because women are told not to douche. The reason women don’t need to douche is because vaginas are self-cleaning. They produce lubrication that, along with gravity and musculature, means the vagina merrily spits out anything up there unless it’s wedged in good and proper (like a menstrual cup). Washing it out fucks with the natural balance of mucous and flora and so is a bad plan.

Trannies with rotholes don’t have vaginas. I’m pretty sure this idiot’s surgeon will have told him he needed to douche to keep it clean for the rest of his life, but of course troon here thinks he’s now a Real and Honest woman, so he mustn’t douche just like a Real and Honest woman. He doesn’t have a vagina but a wound, with no internal musculature that vaginas have, none of the mucous membranes vaginas have, no cervix, no natural vaginal entrance with labia around it. So he gets pubic hair in there, hair from wherever the donor skin for his rothole came from, and bits of lint and shed skin and god knows what else from both outside his body and from the donor skin that isn’t supposed to be where it is. Then the utter dickhead does all surprised Pikachu face when he gets vile smelling clumps of old crap stuck in there.

The issue is retarded men so committed to their woman fantasy that they believe their surgery sites should actually act like vaginas. Pretty sure most surgeons don’t actually claim this and do tell troons to wash out their rotholes, but we all know no-one argues with the great game of tranny telephone that online trans circles are. By now it’s received wisdom that rotholes magically ‘become just like natal vaginas’ so they don’t need douching and need probiotics. These man are in a hell of their own making.

As for rib removal guy, I really hope the idiot goes through with it. I’m sure it won’t cause any problems for him in future at all. But in haste, repent at leisure and all that.

This is why I have zero sympathy for trannies, including Gruffin/Makayla. They’re so determined to lie and lie and lie and scream and rage and bully everyone else into lying (or at least not arguing) that they can damn well just enjoy the fruits of their labours. You want to mangle your body and fuck up surgery results? Go right ahead, Enjoy every moment of it while you claim to be double plus sexy but so victimised and oppressed. Indulging the fantasies of idiots for fun and profit will need to be challenged at a medical and scientific level, but don’t expect that to come too soon while the coom and cash is still king.

 

[Snack Cracker]

GUYS! GUYS!

NEW TRANNY SURGERY JUST DROPPED!!!

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Shaving off shoulders, and plucking out ribs… What’s the worst that can happen?!

Looking forward to reading about a whole new set of fucked up side effects!

Trying to imagine how bizarre this looks, they didn’t mention doing anything to the neck so that’s still going to be shorter and manly.
And the skull size is obviously still huge, the arms attached to the mutilated shoulders are still going to be gorilla long, GREAT job causing major injuries leading to life long issues, leading to life long pain.
This dumbass man CHOSE debilitating orthopedic surgery.

But I’m sure those girly tortured clavicles and rounded off broad ass shoulders will totally be the thing that makes them pass.

 

[Paper Machete]

"never let me learn how to clean my genitals properly."

sorry to be insensitive but what the fuck is this? is this a new type of abuse? "never let me learn"? how, what, how?

They're probably on some sort of turbo autism that makes them not understand how basic bathing works. Most people do not actively need to be told you should clean your no no square the same as any other nook and cranny. With soap.

At most, it's good to explain you shouldn't use anything too harsh "down there". But it's literally just...washing. You don't/shouldn't need to be reminded in intricate detail once you're old enough to wash yourself. Not so much abuse, as these people not realizing the ways in which they're not normal or adjusted.

 

[Xanthe]

I would love to see her loser family try to sue for Reasons. The discovery would unearth endless, undeniable proof that Pooning Out killed her.

Right but they can't. The doctors have already shielded themselves from all that shit. It's why they don't get sued before. They find patients with good health bennies but not a lot of money. That way, their patients can't afford lawyers. They tell the public the science is settled and shit, but on the paperwork you sign, it's all experimental.

Dr. Crane is still practicing in Texas, so I don't think anything came of the lawsuits in San Francisco.

And I don't think Gruffin's family even wants to know. Imagine finding out that the past ten years of suffering could have been avoided simply by taking Gruffin's tablet away when she was 13?

 

[Haram-Habibi]

I just dunno, kiwifams. Why do you follow this thread?

Very late and gay to this, so lots and lots of apologies to all, begging your indulgences.....

Spoiler

Deepest thanks to all who have collected images of those horrors to save here. You're doing the Lord's work, I swear.

I followed this at first to see what the "vagoominasplattys" looked like post-op. There's a kid very special to my heart who thought he was a she about five years ago. I had not learned of the NZ ag farm site at the time, but I just knew all of this magical tranny BS was wrong. Couldn't exactly say why, because there were no pics online that I could easily find.

We've all seen some shit here, man, and there's been days when it was a bad thing to have eyes. The flesh origami here is positively Lovecraftian, and worse than I could have even imagined.

Anyhoo, me and others were successful in convincing this kid to just endure the wonderland that is puberty, and assured him that no one enjoys it, but everyone survives it. If he wanted to do it later, well.....go for it, but not when you can't legally consent to this shit, either the hormones or the surgeries.

Kid was delighted to see that he survived puberty as promised, and we were delighted that the "most kids decide not to chop bits off once the hormones settle down" statistic turned out to be true in our case. He decided that becoming a man wasn't as horrible as he feared it would be, and it was okay to have some not stereotypically male interests.

If any of you real and true homos are reading this, there's a little baby homo heading to college this year, courtesy of our personal efforts to "save the gays". Our family's roots aren't from a very "prideful" place, and I don't wanna think about what would or could happen to him in the homeland. But we decided we'd much rather have a living, flaming AF, fabulous son come home someday with another rainbow spangled young man, than a mutilated, fake "daughter" like Jazz, forever mentally stunted and medicated to the gills.

As depressing as it is to see these butcher jobs over and over, knowing that there's a possibility that some confused kid might see this and snap out of it before it's too late is a good thing.

The "everything will be amazing if you do this" propaganda out there isn't as overwhelming as it once was, but it's still thick out there. There are sites that tell kids what to say, how to say it, and what to do if your "vital healthcare" is denied, unfortunately.

My local PFLAG group is all tranny all the damn time, so it's no help if any parents want support for delaying irreversible treatments, or just a place for their "booooooring" cishomo kid to not feel so alone. Even in my backwater, you got to be careful what you say, what psych help you get your child (yes, we have a few groomers moonlighting as therapists here, too), and where your kid goes to school (thankful for charter schools that lean conservative - no danger hair teachers providing "sanctuary" from evil parents who "don't understand like I do".)

At least it's getting easier for parents to say "hell nah, not doing it" now in most parts of the US. Can't wait for this revolting human experimentation to end.

It has to someday, right?

(ETA correct tags for the spoiler, because today I am dumbfag, sorry.)

 

[Hubelublub]

"never let me learn how to clean my genitals properly."

sorry to be insensitive but what the fuck is this? is this a new type of abuse? "never let me learn"? how, what, how?

I'm intrigued by the idea of a 'nonabusive family' teaching a young women how to clean her genitals properly. Mum, dad, grandparents, brother and sister, maybe even uncles and aunts, sitting down family conference style at the dinner table, to discuss with pre-pubescent woman on genital cleanliness. Perhaps even with demonstrations.

Truly every young girl's dream.

 

[Poonocchio]

Anyway I googled "hair wrapped around cervix" as troony described and found only 3 articles and a reddit post. 2 articles mentioned the cervix in particular but noted that it's incredibly rare to collect hair in the female genitalia, and seems to happen predominantly in post menopausal women due to reasons I don't understand or care to research.

The most likely reason, which was in the third article, says that in extremely rare cases women can develop hair follicles near their cervix and that can cause this issue.

TIL more shit I didn't want to know and have a new fear unlocked yet again thanks to the Farms.

 

[PigFarm]

I'm intrigued by the idea of a 'nonabusive family' teaching a young women how to clean her genitals properly. Mum, dad, grandparents, brother and sister, maybe even uncles and aunts, sitting down family conference style at the dinner table, to discuss with pre-pubescent woman on genital cleanliness. Perhaps even with demonstrations.

Truly every young girl's dream.

I've heard this a lot from autistics that also have personality disorders.

The idea of "someone didn't teach me on MY time/the way I wanted, therefore abuse" is repeated amongst self victims.

The shit I've heard...

"It's not my fault I can't drive. Mom offered to teach me after 6pm (ie when work was done and dinner was made) but that's rush hour so I can't. She offered driving lessons during my preferred time but I'm not sitting with a stranger. Therefore mom abused me by not teaching me" (she was 27).

"It's not my fault I dont have a job. Dad didn't teach me how to write resumes. Yes I had classes in high school and can now access a zillion online/free in person courses to teach me but I won't cause dad didn't teach me as a teen." (Of course she never asked.)

My favorite was "it's not my fault I can't wash the dishes, parents never taught me." Parents had but gave her shit because she rushed through it and left globs of food on it. So instead of slowing down and using her eyes to make sure shits clean when she cleans (a concept most don't realize you have to teach people), she decided she wasn't taught correctly and therefore must be forever stuck to paper plates. Literally when trying to be taught to budget, she insisted paper plates and utensils MUST be on the list.


A lot of this self victim shit can be helped by teaching parents of mentally deficient teens that they need to be very specific in how they teach life skills. Instead of assuming that your 18 year old can figure out how to press "on" on a cordless vacuum and rub it against the floor, you need to show their assess step by fucking step. You need to make a list for washing the dishes (1. Fill sink to this level. Put in this much detergent. 2. Pick up sponge etc).

Unfortunately people don't do this because these kids are able to learn extensively about shit they hyper focus on. It's less an ability to learn, and more making it as easiest as possible to learn things they don't give a shit about.


Anyway that's my sperg

 

[Lady Farishta]

Reply function doesn't work for some reason, but the above explanation makes sense.

the fucking twat hairballs though. a real woman would have to work fucking hard to get hairballs, like actively shove hair up there and keep shoving as needed, as the magical nature of the vagina would invariably push it out fairly asap, I would think.

 

[PigFarm]

Reply function doesn't work for some reason, but the above explanation makes sense.

the fucking twat hairballs though. a real woman would have to work fucking hard to get hairballs, like actively shove hair up there and keep shoving as needed, as the magical nature of the vagina would invariably push it out asap.

My theory (which i have no basis on, just from what these people seem to be like) is dirty sex toys. Dumping their dildos onto the ground or unwashed bedsheets that are covered in cat hair and their own personal shedding.

 

[Otterly]

If she had some vulnerability to blood clotting the doctors should have refused to operate or give her T.

Of course. They shouldn’t have. Any kind of clotting disorder should be an absolute nope. But that’s exactly the problem - ethics is now subordinate to trans ideology. No is not allowed any more. There is NEVER a clinical reason to give a woman the massive levels of testosterone these pooners are getting. Never.There’s never a justification to do any of these surgeries at all, So the answer should always be no, but once it starts to be yes, the goalposts shift and here we are. Every group who has lobbied and put pressure on to get the standard of care pushed by WPATH (who are eunuch fetishists and deviants) are to blame here

 

[SimplyScrumptious]

Reply function doesn't work for some reason, but the above explanation makes sense.

the fucking twat hairballs though. a real woman would have to work fucking hard to get hairballs, like actively shove hair up there and keep shoving as needed, as the magical nature of the vagina would invariably push it out fairly asap, I would think.

I know right? Literally can only think that, if indeed a real situation, she’s using filthy tampons that were left open and on the floor, she’s pushing hair up for some reason, or she’s confusing anatomy when stray shed hairs from showering/ bathing end up in your butt crack.
I have never heard any real woman discuss this problem. Of course it wouldn’t be ‘normal’ conversation but occasionally “does this weird thing happen to you?” topics do come up.

As for hygiene. You fucking learn yourself. You can feel when something is wrong down there, and in bad cases you can smell it. This pooner would have been told when young, as most good parents will teach their child. Any attempts as an adult to encourage hygiene would have been seen as abuse lol. I’ve also seen young overly online personal cows claim abuse when their tech was confiscated lol.

The ‘tisms really be an excuse.

 

[Paper Machete]

To be honest it's horrifying the amount of not washing and actively making yourself gross you would have to do to get to a point where anything that could resemble a hairbull is happening in the underpants. Even a few days not washing when out camping in the backcountry gets you that gross. These people are chronically not looking after their hygiene and doing things that actively makes the simple act of not using soap worse by...whatever the fuck it is they do.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Know this might get some red x’s, but I do wonder how much of this “I can’t look after myself because I wasn’t taught” stuff is from parents not being around as much when the children were young. In many countries now, it’s just not possible to survive financially without two incomes, certainly not if you have children. Less time with kids, less time of the kids being around mum and dad, watching the jobs that they do around the home (and garden/garage, if they have them).

Could also be that kids are too engrossed in tv, vidya and online creepo forums to pay attention, but these basic skills used to be taught earlier than that anyway. I’m an oldfag, we still had ‘home and family’ lessons in school and we were all taught basic sewing, cooking, woodwork and electrics, both boys and girls.

Maybe it’s a bonding thing? My parents certainly had their issues but little kids tend to adore their parents anyway, unless there’s really horrific abuse going on. They want to hang around their parents when they’re young - I’m talking like 3-7 kind of age, where you follow mum round while she hoovers and she lets you have a go with the duster and shows you about lifting things up to dust underneath them. That kind of thing. Do parents just not do that now? Are kids tied to screens from babyhood?

Man, this is depressing. No wonder so many kids are dumb enough to think bodies are plug and play and that communism is as easy as making rich people pay for your rent and door dash. I’ve made myself sad now.

Let the kids play, ffs. This internet-raised generation is gonna be the death of us.

 

[Hedgehog]

Does this mean the rotdog is just twitching around whenever the pooner walks?

Ok I know I'm late here, but this for buried and I need to know.

 

[Hubelublub]

Know this might get some red x’s, but I do wonder how much of this “I can’t look after myself because I wasn’t taught” stuff is from parents not being around as much when the children were young.

I think it's the opposite, in a roundabout way. Parents aren't physically around as much (in the sense of no one works on the homestead anymore), but the cultural mores of today say that they 'should' be available to their children every waking minute. Children way back when used to be able to regularly spend the whole day away from their parents, and the assumption was that they had to either figure problems out themselves, or wait until the evening. Even mid last century, a day at work in the city meant dad or mum was uncontactable until the evening, unlike today where every parent not only has a phone, but they're expected to answer it at all times. Boarding schools weren't at all unusual for those with means, whereas to send your child away for the entire semester these days is seen as a bit shocking. There was also no such thing as mum or dad flying away for a business meeting for just a day or two. Any trip away from the home meant days on the road, or possibly months at sea. Regular illnesses that might get a parent down for a few days today used to be weeks or months of convalescence, or even death for things which are now easily preventable through vaccination and proper hygiene.

The difference is that all this was accepted as a misfortune befalling some or many children, and children weren't instructed to have a sense of entitlement about what they got. You had your lot, it probably sucked, and you dealt with it by making the best of it because that was all you could do. Your parents might fuck you up, they might be there too much or not enough, but you can use that as a lesson to improve yourself, and the chances for the next generation.

Children now are encouraged to have an external locus of control, most things are probably someone else's fault, and if your parents aren't up your backside or hovering over you 24/7 like a sentient pile of bubblewrap, you have suffered a great injustice. Your parents should swoop in to save you from any negative feels, and hand deliver all important information directly to your brain. Learning through mistakes or misfortune is abuse. Parents giving their children mere advice or multiple suggestions on how to resolve an issue is poor parenting, and risks the potential for their children making a less than perfect choice. Instead, parents should get in there and fix it for their children, or better yet, prevent any negativity from having occurred in the first place.

Human nature is that if we are told there's someone else to blame, if we're given the option for it, we'll tend to absolve ourselves of responsibility.

Let the kids play, and let them make mistakes. The stakes for fucking up are so much less in childhood than they are in adulthood. A smelly 12 year old should get a bit of bullying from her peers, which will make her get her shit together and take a goddamn shower. A smelly 32 year old will get socially polite silence and a complete lack of social circle or job prospects.

Sperging over, please leave your puzzle pieces at the bottom.

 

[papaya]

You’re both right. Kids have way less freedom to roam outside, so they’re stuck at home, but also parents cba to watch them, so they’re stuck on iPads. Jonathan Haidt has some excellent writing on this topic

 

[Lady Farishta]

point is, I don't think most of us got (or needed) an in-depth lesson on how to wash our genitals properly. I'm sure we learned when we were little and learning to generally bathe/wash, or the ol' wipe front to back advice or whatever. but you get older and it's fucking common sense.

"never let me learn" ffs

 

[Coldsteel the Hedgehog]

You’re both right. Kids have way less freedom to roam outside, so they’re stuck at home, but also parents cba to watch them, so they’re stuck on iPads. Jonathan Haidt has some excellent writing on this topic

This is it. Is it any wonder these people grow up maladjusted when they're not allowed to be outside unsupervised until they're 17 but have parents who spend all day working and telling them to go in their rooms and play? We have raised an entire generation of young adults who collectively suffer from emotional neglect with stunted development.

These parents literally teach their kids to not be curious and retreat into themselves. Those examples of "little kids following their mom and being taught to vacuum" don't happen anymore because they internalize from their parent's lack of engagement that they're not supposed to do that, and they self-isolate. These kids have never learned life skills because their parents never offered, and they have been disincentivized to ask.

 

[Hubelublub]

point is, I don't think most of us got (or needed) an in-depth lesson on how to wash our genitals properly. I'm sure we learned when we were little and learning to generally bathe/wash, or the ol' wipe front to back advice or whatever. but you get older and it's fucking common sense.

"never let me learn" ffs

Or they didn't wash properly, got a yeast infection or UTI or whatever, and figured out what the cause of the infection was.
The younger you are, the faster you generally recover from illness and infection, which is why youth is a great time to make these mistakes and figure out self-care.

Now, kids are taught that if something goes wrong, someone else (mum and dad, usually) should do the thinking for them and sort it all out, and if they don't, any consequences are mum and dad's fault. So why bother trying to figure anything out for yourself?

In fact, I suspect most of them don't even have the skill set to be able to figure out things for themselves, even if they wanted to. Which they don't.

The lack of self-drive in these trannies, both MtF and FtM, is absolutely astounding. I get why it is, and yet I don't understand it at all.