Furry Fandom and Drama General

I'm so sick of it man. If I have to hear ONE more person justifying being a confused genderblob that people have to conform to because "it doesn't hurt anyone", I'm gonna revoke my MATI status and reinstate it because there are not enough words to distill my anger with that phrase.
YES; THANK YOU!!
Your wall of text exemplifies a lot why I have the problem wi that phrase. I just do not know how to pu that feeling I have into words.
 
I follow a lot of psych people on Xitter for work, it’s very cerebral and extremely boring. Was rather surprised to encounter this old geezer offering his opinion on furries all of a sudden.

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He gave no context whatsoever so now I’m imagining some fat guy in a panda suit waltzing in to his office demanding affirmation. Wish there was footage.

(Dementia praecox was the historical term for schizophrenia, btw).
In the old guy's defense if a man child in a fucking bear suit walked into an office every normal person there would assume he's crazy.
 
35 bucks a pop for a shirt with some text copypasted from the farms? No thanks.
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But hey, they do carry it in 4XL so Null's probably safe.
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Yes, the pillar of your community: a would-be dogfucker. The furry fandom as we know it sure has a bright future ahead! :3
A 500 lb lead weight but then again I'm now describing 80% of these so-called pillars of the community. He was an absolutely shameless and disgusting freak who openly shared fetishistic art on his Twitter account for all to see and no doubt engaged in horrific shit behind closed doors. Never trust anyone into inflation, they're absolute freaks.

He will only be mourned so long as the GoFundMe remains up then the scavengers will leave his dessicated corpse of FurAffinity to rot. His only lasting legacy will be consumed by infighting thanks to his shortsighted decision making, technical and administrative incompetence.
 
The road to hell is paved with furries drawing porn.

Believe me though, it can only get worse: https://e621.net/posts?tags=kiwi_farms
The fact that most of them have a positive score, instead of getting mass downvoted, gives me the faintest spark of hope for the furry fandom, ngl.
Perhaps one day they will be actively hunting zoophiles and trannies out of their groups...
 
The fact that most of them have a positive score, instead of getting mass downvoted, gives me the faintest spark of hope for the furry fandom, ngl.
Perhaps one day they will be actively hunting zoophiles and trannies out of their groups...
Can't be arsed to go after the trannies. Troons and trendies sure. But if they aren't harassing properly or grooming kids or just doing it because its somehow popular i don't really see an issue. It's a mentally unstable faggot in a dress as opposed to the average fur a mentally instable faggot in a dog costume. Zoophiles can fuck off though. Messaged someone already on here to see if he can help me with one of them. If anyone wants to know who I'm referring to i can dm. I noticed he tried to slime his obscene animal abuse on here before too when looking at the animal control threads.
 
*Post that Kiwifarms greyed out the reply button on*
You love to see it, with each spoilered quote of the posts you can see the viewpoint get more and more extreme as ground is ceded and the frog pot slowly reaches a boiling point. I know these aren't even the same people posting but when you put it together like that it illustrates the slippery slope in effect. Amazing and yet horrifying. This is why people shouldn't put up with their shit even early on into this process.

They're making a Lunarchy - a rule of lunacy where everyone subjected to it is bullied into toeing the line except the line is chaotic and keeps escalating in one big hazing ritual where they keep piling on greater and greater absurdities that one must visibly embrace and conform to.

OK actually that whole last paragraph was just me making up lore, but it is true that it comes across as one big psychological humiliation ritual at this point with how much inane and insane shit they want everyone to conform to for "inclusivity". God knows what sick minds compels the troon horde to subject everyone to this, I think they're caught in some kind of army ant-mill death-spiral and don't even know what they're doing to the world anymore. If you're not a part of the ant-mill you must have been corrupted by "conservative propaganda".
 
You love to see it, with each spoilered quote of the posts you can see the viewpoint get more and more extreme as ground is ceded and the frog pot slowly reaches a boiling point. I know these aren't even the same people posting but when you put it together like that it illustrates the slippery slope in effect. Amazing and yet horrifying. This is why people shouldn't put up with their shit even early on into this process.
I've got a theory. I think the fundamental flaw of their arguments is mistaking perceptions and definitions for being the same thing as reality. Perceiving yourself to be something doesn't mean you are that thing. Others perceiving you to be something doesn't make you that either. Things do exist and have properties beyond peoples' ability to define or perceive them. Changing perceptions or definitions doesn't alter their fundamental essence. It's essentially magical thinking, that if you just believe hard enough and rearrange definitions, you can become whatever you want.

It comes across as insane because it is. They don't believe reality to be concrete. You can see why these delusions become more extreme because there is nothing anchoring them at all. It's also built on a binary foundation. Every view has to be valid, else none of them would be.
 
I haven't come across many of those trans-species furries outside of "in all aspects except physical I'm a wolf" actual lolcows. Even among the most degenerate zoophillic furfags, they usually cope by inventing consent as opposed to saying "I'm a dog too" and claiming it makes it alright.

Even in the hyper-liberal sphere I'd expect the cross-species identity argument not to stick too much because it can't be construed as a social construct. What you may see flying is some kind of animistic pagan bastardization, which isn't very common: you have to be religious enough to believe in a soul, and that animals posses them and that somehow things got mixed up, but you are somehow still observably rational and human.

Personally, I think the lack of backlash to that specific flavor of lunacy is more due to liberal leaning people being mortified of being seen as in the "wrong side of history" in a tweet/etc. (by deriding a mentally ill individual) 6 years down the line when they get their whole life examined in detail by some terminally online person over some unimportant disagreement. It's the kind of opinion they'll share with you over a beer, not one that they'll put down in writing.

Things do exist and have properties beyond peoples' ability to define or perceive them
Nice bit of transcendental idealism too.
 
I haven't come across many of those trans-species furries outside of "in all aspects except physical I'm a wolf" actual lolcows.
They aren't too unusual a sight within circles of high furry populations. It's a subcommunity that really doesn't like being visible, and generally tries its hardest to avoid drawing attention to itself. The relatively sane know well enough to simply not be public about it outside of a self-identifying label on their public-facing profiles, at most. The ways they self-identify keep changing every decade or so due to the sheer volume of lunatics that end up donning their labels, shitting up their spaces, and in general make a given label an outright embarassment to publicly carry.

"Otherkin" and "therian" are two prominent examples of this. Circles under those labels dedicated to the concept of identifying as non-human generally tried their hardest to keep out kids, idiots, and other bad apples. But since social media tags (the primary method for the comparatively insane to congregate) are far more publicly visible, those labels ended up completely redefined by attention-seeking teenagers, trend-chasers, and individuals of a far greater degree of delusion. Any attempt to suggest alternate terms or otherwise publicly point out what's happening usually leads to being dogpiled (debatably literal) for the crime of gatekeeping. After a few years, the ones responsible for redefining a given label proceed to aggressively push out those who use the label to self-identify as non-human. Any attempt to point out the original coining of a term is met with denial and accusations of ableism.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a more concise descriptor of that phenomenon, as there's many similar cycles I've seen across internet communities.

Currently, non-human identification is in a transitory state where there simply isn't a collectively agreed-upon label at the moment. The number of relatively sane people using "therian" has been steadily dropping ever since TikTok started popularizing the term. Some opt for the more sophisticated "alterhuman". Some quirky fellas use "trans-species" (Sadly, most donning that label are just trolls). Some have reverted to how self-identification of non-humanity went back in the Usenet days, of simply saying "I am a [species]". Some simply use "non-human".

It's essentially magical thinking, that if you just believe hard enough and rearrange definitions, you can become whatever you want.

It comes across as insane because it is. They don't believe reality to be concrete. You can see why these delusions become more extreme because there is nothing anchoring them at all.
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I've got a theory. I think the fundamental flaw of their arguments is mistaking perceptions and definitions for being the same thing as reality. Perceiving yourself to be something doesn't mean you are that thing. Others perceiving you to be something doesn't make you that either. Things do exist and have properties beyond peoples' ability to define or perceive them. Changing perceptions or definitions doesn't alter their fundamental essence. It's essentially magical thinking, that if you just believe hard enough and rearrange definitions, you can become whatever you want.

It comes across as insane because it is. They don't believe reality to be concrete. You can see why these delusions become more extreme because there is nothing anchoring them at all. It's also built on a binary foundation. Every view has to be valid, else none of them would be.
I just like dressing like a girl because girls are cute and I want to look cute. The fact people legitimately believe putting on a dress and shooting up some drugs will make them an actual girl is mind boggling to me. I'm all for people having fun. But none of that changes what you are born as. This is why i separate myself from troons. I'm Trans because I think passing as a woman is cool. I'm not going to pretend I'm suddenly an actual woman. I'm a dude in a dress who looks ridiculous and does it to have fun. Also the fact people have drugs they take to further their delusions and infect children's minds with it kinda pisses me off too. Adult fun stuff is for adults. And pretending it's more than adult fun stuff has legitimately done society a great amount of brainrot.
 
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