Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

It still is impressive how much mismanagement of Star Wars has occurred. Not everything has been a financial failure, but they're still failures with massive mistakes in execution.

Is Star Was Lego the only thing that hasn't been mismanaged?

They've stuff up with films, TV, theme parks, novels, comics, non-star wars products and video games.
It's not that weird when you consider that the same class of people have been doing the same thing to video game companies and other properties they got a hold of. What happened to Star Wars has been happening to comics for decades before the SJWs showed up. Pander out to demographics, whore out the franchise, let nepo babies and corporate retards raid it or use it as an agitprop for their stupid politics, don't give a shit about the quality of the story, then leave it for dead when it no longer makes money.

You also have to consider the fact that the people who run Star Wars now hate the demographic that it appeals to-young boys and men who like military/fantasy/sci-fi stuff, as well as young men who like strong male heroes and sexy ladies. So it could also be them seeking revenge against those people for not liking their feminist propaganda. These twats would rather see Star Wars die instead of it appealing once more to the same fanboys who made it great.

The same thing happened to Halo and the Xbox brand as a whole; a brand built up by guys who like military shooters, sexy babes, while yelling the N-word through the Xbox live headset. Microsoft shooed them away and tried to attract SJW audiences, but they're getting nothing for their trouble. So they'd rather let the franchise and the brand die instead of going back to appease the chuds they hate-the very same chuds who made their franchise and brand successful in the first place.

I'm sure the top people at Lucasfilm already have their golden parachutes ready for when the whole thing falls apart and the Star Wars brand collapses into the dirt. Hopefully it can become public domain when that happens, so that any fan can write their own stories and probably make something good out of the franchise when the company finally falls.
 
In saying that canon no longer matters, Disney's SW writers unwittingly freed the fans from any obligation to them. Now any fan can write their own canon that takes in whatever they like from both the Disney SW universe and the old SWEU, or write their own canon with their own fanfiction, and it would be just as valid as anything Disney shits out.
A friend and I have actually been doing just that for years with a bunch of RPG campaigns, where we have established rules, our own continuity and repeated references. For example with the Mandalorian stuff, we synthesized a version that took a bunch of ideas from the various contradictory ideas of what they are, hewing much closer to the KoTOR version but taking the odd element from Traviss and TCW. For example there is no issue with them being wiped out or whatever because Mandalorians are absolutely prodigious with the number of colonies across the galaxy like the Greeks or the Norse/Normans, with divergent cultures across the place, though they tend to look towards Mandalore as a cultural and religious guiding light.
 
You also have to consider the fact that the people who run Star Wars now hate the demographic that it appeals to-young boys and men who like military/fantasy/sci-fi stuff, as well as young men who like strong male heroes and sexy ladies. So it could also be them seeking revenge against those people for not liking their feminist propaganda. These twats would rather see Star Wars die instead of it appealing once more to the same fanboys who made it great.

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"it's a century before the acolyte so it makes total sense everything's super generic scifi and looks nothing like star wars"
Also that second cover looks like it might have been heavily based on/traced off some anime thing. That specific shot looks eerily familiar in a way that's triggering something in my "guy who watched a lot of imported japanese shit in the 90s and 2000s as a kid" brain.
 
>Resistance
>Freedom fighters

Jesus fucking christ and these retards whine about manbaby-bigot fanboys being incapable of moving the hell on from the original trilogy. Is this the fifth scuffed Rebel Alliance in nu-wars canon now or the sixth?!

As for the art and "H*CKIN VALID AND JOYFUL AND DIVERSE GENDERQUEER ROMANCE" plotline over....actual fucking plotline.......yeah this is straight up unironically the end result of hiring tumblr manatees for pennies and churros
 
I agree canon doesn't matter for them, when it comes to them retconing whatever the hell they want to promote the message. Nothing is sacred for them. But I also think they are all broadly in the same page.

So for instance they will have zero issue retcoming Ki-Adi-Mundi’s birthday, or Filoni literally inventing Time travel to save Ashoka,

What I find extremely naive, however, is that some fans unironically believe that, KK will , somehow approve and fully fund a project a project to “DeCanoNise THe SeQUels”. Which was a full on copium people had with the first season of the mandalorian. Then Luke had a cameo and everyone pretended like this meant they would ignore the sequels.

In reality they just got baited with nostalgia bait again.

Like it or not, the sequels are Disney Status Quo. So I doubt anything will be allowed to override them as long as KK is in charge.
 
Lol, kek even.

As a side note, for Clones, neither 3 million or quintillions make sense. Sci-fi writers just can't into scale. This is not a Star Wars exclusive problem.

As a general rule, your state needs enough soldiers to garrison and defend your civilians, and still be fed by them.

Coruscant is the most populous planet with 1 trillion. 3 million clones couldn't even garrison half of it. But they wouldn't have ships nor food nor guns for a quintrillions.

Same thing for some Warhammer Warmaster that boasted about having like 5 million men. A hive city has 5 billion.

Generally writers also don't know jack shit about stuff like space or basic logistics and economy. And I am not talking about quantum physics or stonks, but shit like how the the crapolyte witches or any other isolated group survives and has technology, food, etc, without having stuff like farms. Or how the hilariously stupid Rebel moon Not-Imperial Guard Not-Galactic Empire needs a small village's grains as they can't figure out hardtack nor find any other worlds with food for them to use. The grain must flow!

Lucas and the old eu for a good example clearly showed how the tuskens have banthas, which made them more believable. Small attention to detail like this matters.
 
Is this the fifth scuffed Rebel Alliance in nu-wars canon now or the sixth?!
Yes.

Seriously said this before but it still bothers me that the first order is treated like the empire and the "resistence" like the rebellion when the lore they made for them and state constantly in the movies is that the "resistence" is literally a section of the republic army and the "first order" is a small faction of imperial loyalists that formed their own rebellion of sorts. If shit was actually coherent you'd end up with old style stormtroopers fighting first order stormtroopers or some shit like that considering the republic and the empire were more or less the same governing body with a different head. The "new republic" is basically just returning to how it worked before palpatine pulled his shit.

Palpatine being "somehow returned" all burnt up and shit on life support implying some loyalist saved him last second and hid him on that spooky hell cave planet makes the whole "revenge for the empire by latching onto the next powerful guy seeking more power to show up" plot the first order had make no sense but that's been also been explained to death. They fucking tried "fixing it" in the novelization by making him a clone which makes even less sense because he's fucking blind and burnt up hooked up to a machine like he literally survived falling directly down a hot ass reactor exhaust chute. That's not even getting not the shit 'm still thinking about 5 years on with the early showings and some theatres seemingly having a weird "5 or 6 different cuts" thing going on where scenes were apparently shuffled around like the movie was made of fucking segments to try and garner the most positive reaction some people were schizoposting about after noticing the ones they watched didn't line up with others. Similar thing happened with spiderverse 2 having different dialogue a while back but with that one they actually confirmed that there was a running change with 2 or 3 versions of the movie. Disney was radio silent when that shit happened with rise of skywalker.
 
Lol, kek even.

As a side note, for Clones, neither 3 million or quintillions make sense. Sci-fi writers just can't into scale. This is not a Star Wars exclusive problem.

As a general rule, your state needs enough soldiers to garrison and defend your civilians, and still be fed by them.

Coruscant is the most populous planet with 1 trillion. 3 million clones couldn't even garrison half of it. But they wouldn't have ships nor food nor guns for a quintrillions.

Same thing for some Warhammer Warmaster that boasted about having like 5 million men. A hive city has 5 billion.

Generally writers also don't know jack shit about stuff like space or basic logistics and economy. And I am not talking about quantum physics or stonks, but shit like how the the crapolyte witches or any other isolated group survives and has technology, food, etc, without having stuff like farms. Or how the hilariously stupid Rebel moon Not-Imperial Guard Not-Galactic Empire needs a small village's grains as they can't figure out hardtack nor find any other worlds with food for them to use. The grain must flow!

Lucas and the old eu for a good example clearly showed how the tuskens have banthas, which made them more believable. Small attention to detail like this matters.
It makes sense for quintillions, since there's millions of planets in the Republic. That sounds like a large number, until you divide quintillions by millions and you get a decent-sized force to guard the planets in the Republic. The Republic has thousands of worlds like Coruscant that are city worlds. They also have millions of worlds that are in between city and agriculture, like Naboo or Alderaan, or just full-on farm worlds like Uphrades or Dantooine. Population numbers vary. Some worlds would need 1-2 million soldiers at minimum to keep things under control, others would just need a single legion or a Star Destroyer's worth of soldiers, which is just a bit over 9000.

For example, a planet like Tatooine would probably have a single Clone legion that's basically 10,000 strong or less. But a planet like Taris would necessitate a million men just to secure the upper city, never mind the lower and undercity which are full of scum and aren't well-policed.
 
As a side note, for Clones, neither 3 million or quintillions make sense. Sci-fi writers just can't into scale. This is not a Star Wars exclusive problem.

Battletech somewhat solved this problem by just saying that a single BattleMech would be able to waste an entire army, so while you still needed decent sized conventional forces for security, when it came to planetary invasion the only conflicts that were really important were between BattleMechs - but they wouldn't be the ONLY conflicts occurring, just the only ones that would actually matter in the grand scheme.

Then they sort of lost the script after the Great Refusal when you went from BattleMechs being in rather limited supply due to the technology to create needed parts being lost or practically magic due to how far the techbase had fallen, to being cranked out at the scale you'd expect nations that were comprised of hundreds of systems would be able to industrialize production at once more than about a dozen people in the known galaxy knew how to make fusion reactors.
 
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Can someone please explain the Nihil from the gay high republic shit that disney shat out, are they just space marauders or are they Sith aligned fanatics?
 
It makes sense for quintillions, since there's millions of planets in the Republic. That sounds like a large number, until you divide quintillions by millions and you get a decent-sized force to guard the planets in the Republic.
Consider the example of General Rahm Kota. I've always preferred the explanation that clones are the frontline fighting force, and for every one of them is a thousand Just Some Guy doing backline duty, crewing ships, etc. The Kaminoans only have so much space on their shitty water world, and it can't be easy or cheap to feed quadrillions of men while you're kicking your heels waiting for the war to start.

Battletech somewhat solved this problem by just saying that a single BattleMech would be able to waste an entire army, so while you still needed decent sized conventional forces for security, when it came to planetary invasion the only conflicts that were really important were between BattleMechs - but they wouldn't be the ONLY conflicts occurring.
Kind of? A BattleMech is still vulnerable to getting ganked by tanks or some guy with an ATGM or, god help the MechWarrior, an inferno launcher. It's the weird culture of the setting that has mechs matter as much as they do (and also that you the player/reader are here for mechs, not tanks). It's also that it's stated that mechs are pound for pound the most efficient weapons platform available, and the intimidation factor is part of that. Planets also tend to not be garrisoned very strongly in general, and that's why a single Union full of mechs can take them.
 
Consider the example of General Rahm Kota. I've always preferred the explanation that clones are the frontline fighting force, and for every one of them is a thousand Just Some Guy doing backline duty, crewing ships, etc. The Kaminoans only have so much space on their shitty water world, and it can't be easy or cheap to feed quadrillions of men while you're kicking your heels waiting for the war to start.
Unless of course, you're being funded by the space equivalent of the Rothschilds, which Darth Tyranus and Darth Plagueis were. Palpatine had the former as his apprentice, and he killed the latter and inherited his wealth. They were also wealthy enough to buy a galactic invasion fleet to ferry the Clone Army to hotspots all over the galaxy, and I assume that would be far more costly than any number of clones, especially when these ships numbered in the millions since they had millions of worlds to patrol.

There's also the fact that the clones being the cannon fodder is their basic duty, which is the main point of the story for the Republic side of the Clone Wars. They're the expendable schmucks that Palpatine sent into the jaws of hell so that random Joe the Republic citizen doesn't get drafted for the war. After all, if the Republic starts drafting people for the war, and they come back home in body bags, Palpatine's going to lose popularity points, and no would-be dictator wants that; he needs the people on his side when he starts ripping the Constitution apart and making himself king of the galaxy.

Anyways, it was the droids that numbered in the quintillions, not the clones. Hence why Palpatine had to end the war in year three. Otherwise, the sheer number of the droids would eventually wear down the clones if the war goes on for 5-10 years. Even if they draft entire population sectors, it would eventually come up short. At most, the clones probably numbered in the billions, maybe even low trillions.

The only reason the CIS didn't steamroll the Republic in the war, outside of Dooku pulling his punches, is also because the Republic had superior warships. Sure, the Providence-class is a great warship, but most Confederate ships are Munificient and Lucrehulk-class ships that are basically cargo and communications ships with guns slapped on them. The former are not known for being able to stand up to even outdated dreadnought-class heavy cruisers in a 1v1 fight, and the latter can get flattened by two Acclamator-class Troop Transports, as was shown in the Republic Commando game where a Lucrehulk got destroyed because it chose to stand its ground against two of those aforementioned Acclamators. They aren't even the strongest ships the Republic fielded during the war; the Venator and Imperator-class Star Destroyers far eclipsed the Acclamators in firepower and tonnage.

It doesn't matter if you swarm a planet with billions or trillions of battle droids if the enemy fleet won control of space; they can just pull a Darth Malak and glass the planet, killing your droids. Or bomb enough of it so that the Clone Army can swoop down and take the planet.

Can someone please explain the Nihil from the gay high republic shit that disney shat out, are they just space marauders or are they Sith aligned fanatics?
Space Pirates, but they're not as cool as the ones from Metroid.

Kind of? A BattleMech is still vulnerable to getting ganked by tanks or some guy with an ATGM or, god help the MechWarrior, an inferno launcher. It's the weird culture of the setting that has mechs matter as much as they do (and also that you the player/reader are here for mechs, not tanks). It's also that it's stated that mechs are pound for pound the most efficient weapons platform available, and the intimidation factor is part of that. Planets also tend to not be garrisoned very strongly in general, and that's why a single Union full of mechs can take them.
That's basically the Tarkin doctrine in a nutshell. They didn't have enough men or ships to garrison every planet in the galaxy, so they make their weapon systems big and scary so that the common normie who doesn't have a head for tactics or strategy gets spooked enough to keep his head down and pay his taxes on time.
 
He's in his 50s and he's still a toddler so I guess logically he shouldn't reach adulthood for at least a few centuries.
Based on Yoda he should be equivalent to a 5yr old, him being an a perma-infant is for marketability.
As a side note, for Clones, neither 3 million or quintillions make sense. Sci-fi writers just can't into scale. This is not a Star Wars exclusive problem.
A planet in Star Wars is basically just a town in the grand scheme of things, it's one of those things where realism takes a back seat since the numbers required for a "realistic" space war is going to be so ridiculously massive that it doesn't really mean anything.
 
A planet in Star Wars is basically just a town in the grand scheme of things, it's one of those things where realism takes a back seat since the numbers required for a "realistic" space war is going to be so ridiculously massive that it doesn't really mean anything.
Some planets are towns, other planets are somewhere between a farm and a city, other planets are fully cities. A planet like Coruscant, for instance, is going to need way more men to secure it than 3 million clones. Tatooine however, can be secured by a few thousand, and Dantooine would require even less.

Also, if you paid attention to most sci-fi, Star Wars didn't start that trend. Trek was already doing the planet=town thing way before Lucas wrote the first SW script.
 
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There's also the fact that the clones being the cannon fodder is their basic duty, which is the main point of the story for the Republic side of the Clone Wars. They're the expendable schmucks that Palpatine sent into the jaws of hell so that random Joe the Republic citizen doesn't get drafted for the war. After all, if the Republic starts drafting people for the war, and they come back home in body bags, Palpatine's going to lose popularity points, and no would-be dictator wants that; he needs the people on his side when he starts ripping the Constitution apart and making himself king of the galaxy.

Anyways, it was the droids that numbered in the quintillions, not the clones. Hence why Palpatine had to end the war in year three. Otherwise, the sheer number of the droids would eventually wear down the clones if the war goes on for 5-10 years. Even if they draft entire population sectors, it would eventually come up short. At most, the clones probably numbered in the billions, maybe even low trillions.

The only reason the CIS didn't steamroll the Republic in the war, outside of Dooku pulling his punches, is also because the Republic had superior warships. Sure, the Providence-class is a great warship, but most Confederate ships are Munificient and Lucrehulk-class ships that are basically cargo and communications ships with guns slapped on them.
You clearly didn't watch The Clone Wars, chud. The clones are all special unique snowflakes and totally aren't cannon fodder. The Republic also won every battle they got into because the bad guys are all hilariously incompetent.

(Also, I don't think Republic Commando, literally my favorite thing to come out of this stupid franchise, is cannon anymore :()
 
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