The British Summer of Discontent - The growing civil unrest of the native British population, sparked by the murder of 3 young girls in Southport

[Obstacle]

I suppose it depends on what you define as "Religious", but profoundly irreligious societies like Scandanavia, France and even England were doing just fine until the religious descended upon them en masse.

I would argue that they embraced "Secular Humanism" which is like being religious, but without the dignity.
That ideology then rendered them ripe for invasion, because they developed from it a culture revolving around treating human beings as an interchangeable commodity.
This made their collapse inevitable as soon as they were exposed to people with a more tribalistic outlook.

Frankly, burning the odd heathen in a wicker man keeps the foreigners out.
There's also the argument that the cultural bonding through ritual and shared belief is one of the few forms of social organization that can compete with ethno-nationalism as a catalyst to mass action.

Secular westerners are just pathetically listless and atomized, and all the science in the world won't fix that.

 

[AnOminous]

Religion is dumb and gay.

Enjoy your euphoria.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Then why is it such an effective social binding agent?

Because everyone thinks they are doing it right. There’s a reason you can get absolved of your sins. Not even the institutions expect you to do it right. They expect you to try knowing you’ll fail. As does God in a lot of cases.

The reasons we are having issues now is the Churches have stopped caring that you even have to pretend or try.

Frankly, I'm coming round to the idea that if you believe a higher power is on your side, you can do anything.

I could have told you that. It’s about belief in you yourself being right, just or confidant. Channeling that through something, such as God, is the easiest thing for people.

It boils down to believing in yourself. A lot of people can’t do fhat without something.

 

[Obstacle]

Because everyone thinks they are doing it right. There’s a reason you can get absolved of your sins. Not even the institutions expect you to do it right. They expect you to try knowing you’ll fail. As does God in a lot of cases.

The reasons we are having issues now is the Churches have stopped caring that you even have to pretend or try.

I’m not religious in any way and I could have told you that. It’s about belief in your yourself being right, just of confidant. Challening that through something is the easiest thing for people.

It boils down to believing in yourself. A lot of people that don’t believe in God can’r do fhat.

Yup, frankly, pouring libations over the tombs of your ancestors, and swearing dire oaths over them on pain of damnation and eternal shame, is sort of a primitive lifehack.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Yup, frankly, pouring libations over the tombs of your ancestors, and swearing dire oaths over them on pain of damnation and eternal shame, is sort of a primitive lifehack.

Hey, if it works.

 

[FuckedOffToff]

Ok guys, you can rate me dumb, autistic or whatever, I just need to get this out of my brain. It's typical drunk guy in the corner of the pub stuff, but I swear I'm not drunk, just an insomniac, and it's about 4am currently.
So. Here's what I'd do if I was in charge
1)Leave the European Convention of Human rights. It's now nothing more than increasingly bureaucratic bullshit designed to deny humans rights and give sub-humans extra rights.
Plus, who the fuck do the Europeans think they are telling us about human rights?

2)Britain ended the transatlantic slave trade at great human and financial cost to the country. We only finished paying that loan off in 2015, so Britons alive today contributed tax money towards the project of ending transatlantic slavery. The question of reparations then becomes a bit more nuanced, and I reckon we're due a bye for a decade or three. Which brings us neatly to

3) We have a shit ton of crumbling infrastructure, and a lot of men of working age already being compensated with free housing, three meals a day, and a weekly allowance for entertainment. Much more than a huge amount of British natives have. The only problem is they can't work. This is dehumanising, as robbing a man of purpose is definitely against our natural human rights. It's incredibly altruistic to give these poor direction less men not only purpose, but an actual stake in the country they respect so much they cross continents to get here.
If they're building schools, hospitals, prisons, repairing roads and otherwise contributing to Britain, we can instill in them a sense of pride. And the compensation is already adequate, so economically, it makes line go up,up,up.
This would be for anyone on low-skill visa, who arrived on a small boat, a bogus student visa and probably others I haven't thought of.
Absolute minimum term of this altruistic program is 5 years.
Term dependent on behaviour. Chain migration? Well, the women can work the canteens, laundry and daycare for immigrant children. Any elderly relatives have no recourse to social care, but can use A+E in emergencies. Chronic illness or being possessed by malevolent Djinn are not emergencies.

4)Try to escape this by disappearing into the grey economy? Any business caught hiring from our new infrastructure team will be fined a week's profits for every day of said guests employment. Per person hired. Standard audit by HMRC will follow.

5) Ban first cousin marriage, any already existing are annulled by law. For natives too.

6) If the products of said union turn out to be genetic abominations, any subsequent issue will be denied financial and NHS support. You've been told the likelihood of it happening again, contraception exists, Allah's will be damned. Which leads nicely to

7) Islam shall be banned and declared a proscribed terrorist organisation, as it's not merely a religion, it's political, militaristic and culturally all consuming way of life that not only hates the very country it parasitically leeches from, but wishes to conquer it and subjugate the native peoples.

As a terrorist organisation, all islamic properties(not including owned family dwellings)
shall be seized by the state. All Mosques shall be turned into subsided working mens/women's clubs, to encourage community again. They'll be bars, but community activities/specific clubs, say ttrpg for example, will also be encouraged, with spaces away from the bar focusing on attempting to get gen z to do face to face bloody anything.

9)Let the small boats land, have constant watches for them, where they can housed in camps, modelled on Pontins and Butlins. If Brits would pay to holiday there, they can hardly be compared to Auschwitz.

I also have ideas what I would do with the civil service, judiciary, education, including the infestation in Universities, but this is long enough and I should probably get some sleep.

Would you vote for a party with this manifesto, or am I just insane?
Also, this would get me arrested and jailed anywhere else online.
God bless KiwiFarms.

 

[Obstacle]

@FuckedOffToff
Reply is bost, so.
I'm here at ten to six, and feeling similar;
There are some good ideas, and some bad ones.
Frankly, I think the good ideas are banning Islam and turning all their mosques into pubs, nightclubs and geek dens.
The bad ones are anything that involves accommodating any foreigner further than the nearest port of departure.
And I'd give the Yids the same treatment as the Muzzies, because frankly, between Barbara Learner Specter, Hollywood propaganda, the Israelis wanting to "Send all the palestinians to Europe", and every other Kike in a position of power in a European state?
I'm just about done with Semitic anything.
Not even too hot on Christianity either these days.
The pope spends too much time kissing nigger feet and demanding we open our borders to refugees.
Protestantism is foreign to my blood.
And that goes double for Orthodoxy.

 

[FedPostalService]

Enjoy your euphoria.

I have an antitheist euphoria boner as we speak

 

[close]

"Their" land? The Crusades were taking back land that had been taken by force from Christians.

Retarded take, if land is taken from you by force, it is no longer your land.

That's why this whole Israel thing is so silly - the Jews didn't take land off the Muslims by their own strength, and now there are all sorts of problems. Big brother England had to do it for them, and now the "defeated" can't accept the loss or respect the opponent, because they were a proxy the whole time.

Reply is bost, so.

Highlight the part of his post you want to reply to, and click "quote". Don't go round trying to full quote entire megamessages like Leo fucking Tolstoy here sharted out at 4 AM.

 

[RACISM]

Daily reminder that the most religious societies are also almost always the worst places in the world to live.

OK list those most dangerous places. Then what religion they have. Let's see if any religion is underrepresented.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

OK list those most dangerous places. Then what religion they have. Let's see if any religion is underrepresented.

Oh we are totally on the same page about which religion forms the worst.

Where I think we are likely to disagree is the middle area of "Not hellscapes or dystopias like Gaza or Saudi Arabia, but still not comfortable or safe". Even at the upper end in Europe, states with religious populations that happen to be very unenthusiastic about Islam like Romania are still comparatively unpleasant places to live.

As many areas as he was wrong about Marx was right on this one. There is no coincidence that religiosity (admittedly not always identity) is always negatively correlated with affluence, happiness and education level.

Yes, that does mean that the worse it gets the more religious people will become which will help making formerly irreligious places bigger shitholes even faster.

 

[geckogoy]

Oh we are totally on the same page about which religion forms the worst.

Where I think we are likely to disagree is the middle area of "Not hellscapes or dystopias like Gaza or Saudi Arabia, but still not comfortable or safe". Even at the upper end in Europe, states with religious populations that happen to be very unenthusiastic about Islam like Romania are still comparatively unpleasant places to live.

As many areas as he was wrong about Marx was right on this one. There is no coincidence that religiosity (admittedly not always identity) is always negatively correlated with affluence, happiness and education level.

Yes, that does mean that the worse it gets the more religious people will become which will help making formerly irreligious places bigger shitholes even faster.

Thats only a recent and european pattern, in the US church retention was always higher among more educated goers and obviously europe as a whole was only educated by the church in the first place

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

I suppose it depends on what you define as "Religious", but profoundly irreligious societies like Scandanavia, France and even England were doing just fine until the religious descended upon them en masse.

Were they? Were they really? Was it their atheism that industrialized them and built their colonial empires? Or was it when the tide of atheism hit that their societies started to rotting to the point that a mass invasion of Muslims could even happen?

 

[Jimmy Dean Bowl]

On the subject of two teir justice: How many of the people arrested at Notting Hill "carnival" (the 300 odd on "family day") will be hauled lickety split before a Court and in jail by end of next week? Fucking NONE of them. Not a single one.

Whitey had their photos plastered everywhere for the world to see over things as mundane as mean tweets and chanting, while stabby murderers with distinctly non Anglo names are treated very differently.

The "full force of the law" looks different in the formerly Great Britain if you're white.

 

[Train Operator]

I suppose it depends on what you define as "Religious", but profoundly irreligious societies like Scandanavia, France and even England were doing just fine until the religious descended upon them en masse.

those societies were literally described as "Christendom" for hundreds/thousands of years. it's only recently after the world wars or so where they have become culturally "irreligious" (in reality it just became less Christian. every society is religious they just worship different things, it's hard coded into humanity.) and within that small amount of time everything has gotten objectively worse culturally and politically.

 

[TrinityReformed]

Wonder if anyone here made this vid.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qHlnVtxoBhc

 

["Not" Count Dankula]

I suppose it depends on what you define as "Religious", but profoundly irreligious societies like Scandanavia, France and even England were doing just fine until the religious descended upon them en masse.

Irreligious societies do fine, it's importing the deranged that is the problem.

Daily reminder that the most religious societies are also almost always the worst places in the world to live.

(The only reason I say "almost always", is to give room to North Korea. I would argue that is a religious state though because despite it being a secular socialist state in name the Kim family do claim divine origin and various miraculous magical powers so....)

In the long-term, it was those countries losing their hardcore religiosity that made them susceptible to the pro-humanist, universalist doctrine which eventually robbed them of the ability to say "fuck off, we're full".

In Europe, Christianity killed Tribalism but wore it as a skinsuit for centuries, then Humanism killed Christianity and did the same during the Enlightenment.

We're living through the last few decades of Humanism as Tribalism 2 creeps up behind it, carrying a big fucking rock and a skinning knife.

Fuck knows what that's going to look like, but it'll probably have something to say about Allan's Snackbar

 

[Obstacle]

We're living through the last few decades of Humanism as Tribalism 2 creeps up behind it, carrying a big fucking rock and a skinning knife.

Fuck knows what that's going to look like, but it'll probably have something to say about Allan's Snackbar

Well then, we're gonna have to formulate a reply, aren't we?
And in a post-enlightenment context, we're going to have to back those words with force.
But we can't do it alone, as we assuredly are; scattered leaderless, and vulnerable.
I suggest we form our own "Hundreds" - basically, an informal assembly composed of representatives of local families.
Though if you're in the Danelaw the traditional term is apparently "Wapentake", using that word formally might cause concern in regional authorities.

 

[Otterly]

suppose it depends on what you define as "Religious", but profoundly irreligious societies like Scandanavia, France and even England were doing just fine until the religious descended upon them en masse.

Irreligious societies do fine, it's importing the deranged that is the problem.

Evolution works at the group level as well as the individual. A band with a cohesive religious outlook will outcompete one who won’t stand together.
Scandi societies built a model which worked fine for them UNTIL they have to compete on a specifically (deliberately specific imo) playing field with the religious Islamic types. It was fine when they were in one bit of the world and the Islamic were in another, because they were competing on Scandinavian terms. As soon as the enemy gets imported in, the clannishness becomes a positive selection factor for them.

An irreligious society cannot cope with groups of Muslims within it. They act like cancer cells, taking resource and damaging the whole.

 

[I'm a Silly]

Evolution works at the group level as well as the individual. A band with a cohesive religious outlook will outcompete one who won’t stand together.
Scandi societies built a model which worked fine for them UNTIL they have to compete on a specifically (deliberately specific imo) playing field with the religious Islamic types. It was fine when they were in one bit of the world and the Islamic were in another, because they were competing on Scandinavian terms. As soon as the enemy gets imported in, the clannishness becomes a positive selection factor for them.

An irreligious society cannot cope with groups of Muslims within it. They act like cancer cells, taking resource and damaging the whole.

https://odysee.com/@QuantumRhino:9/Why-is-Sweden-multicultural--(2021):4

"Why is Sweden multicultural?" is a full length documentary that highlights the transition from a homogenous Sweden to a multicultural one.

A documentary by Jonas Nilsson