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Has anyone here finished Moral Orel? What's up with it?

I figured it might be something I'd like, and I've only heard the best about it. I'm now around the middle of S2 and I want to kill myself. It's so fucking boring.

The punchline of every single joke is that Protestants are evil/retarded and a bad influence on Orel. I'm an atheist myself so I don't personally mind the bashing, but just shitting on Protestants over and over while making them cartoonishly evil got old quickly. Maybe it's because the show was on during the middle 2000's - when it was a lot more profound and edgier to shit on Christianity? Or maybe I just don't get it because there are no Protestants where I'm from and they ARE that bad?

Am I missing something? Why do people love this show so much and think it's genius? I've been told it gets a lot more serious in S3, but I don't really see how that would fix it.
 
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Its especially obvioused sandwhiched between competent cartoon artstyles.
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Either this was a writer or direcror something shoving in their shit own designs, or some sort of diversity hire. Maybe both.
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I'd hesitate to call the one on the left "competent" but I can instantly tell why they didn't use the right one.
Far too similar to Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarves.
 
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The punchline of every single joke is that Protestants are evil/retarded and a bad influence on Orel. I'm an atheist myself so I don't personally mind the bashing, but just shitting on Protestants over and over while making them cartoonishly evil got old quickly. Maybe it's because the show was on during the middle 2000's - when it was a lot more profound and edgier to shit on Christianity? Or maybe I just don't get it because there are no Protestants where I'm from and they ARE that bad?
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It's more about religious hypocrites who don't literally practice what they preach. They all preach these values that they themselves don't follow. Most of them only say this as a way to keep some sort of authority.
I can tell you growing up around Protestants, they were that bad in the 2000s (and I'm not shitting on them for the sake of shitting on them, I'm a christfag myself still but not protestant.)

If you watch the entirety of the series you'll notice Orel is the only one who keeps his faith and betters himself as a person by the end and is one of the few that keeps any sense of happiness.

That being said, if you don't like it or get it, that's totally fine. This is just how I saw it.
 
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Schizofriend said:
Has anyone here finished Moral Orel? What's up with it?

I figured it might be something I'd like, and I've only heard the best about it. I'm now around the middle of S2 and I want to kill myself. It's so fucking boring.

The punchline of every single joke is that Protestants are evil/retarded and a bad influence on Orel. I'm an atheist myself so I don't personally mind the bashing, but just shitting on Protestants over and over while making them cartoonishly evil got old quickly. Maybe it's because the show was on during the middle 2000's - when it was a lot more profound and edgier to shit on Christianity? Or maybe I just don't get it because there are no Protestants where I'm from and they ARE that bad?

Am I missing something? Why do people love this show so much and think it's genius? I've been told it gets a lot more serious in S3, but I don't really see how that would fix it.
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I enjoyed the show but few notes.

It does kinda start as just shitting on Protestants but evolves into studying religion more fully. By the end Christianity is shown in very flawed but still positive light where faith can be an excuse or a tool to do horrible things or a light that pushes you trough hardships. It's all about how you practice your faith and if you choose improve yourself or not. Not every shitty person is particularly interested in religion and not every good person ignores the Bible.

The first season is very different from the rest of the series. At first Moral Orel was just a gag centric adult parody of moral centric kids shows. So you get supernatural powers, funny rape and general nothing matters beyond the episode so go nuts energy. Basically just a Rule of Funny and Edgy.

This changes in season 2 onwards. While it doesn't drop the comedy, drama and character relationships become much more important and are taken seriously. The series gets a very strong continuity to point we see the same moments from different characters point of view to add contexts and full episodes set in the past to explain why they act like they act. I highly prefer the series like this. The drama really compliments the dark comedy and improves examination of certain type of Christian culture.

Season 3 gets dark, really dark and got canceled mid way trough the production because CN who ordered more dark episodes got scared how dark it was. So they kinda had to wrap the story way too fast. It's far from bad but it's hard not to notice how many plot points got dropped or just glossed over. It's a shame because the series had great deal of it's best material in this season but the writers couldn't do landing like they wanted to.

The movie is... Hmm... I don't hate it and I do like that we got see intresting unused ideas from season 3 but because it's a presequel characters had go back from their development. Clay and Oral were fine, seeing their relationship before the series was intresting, but seeing other characters back in the square one otherhand was more boring. For example I love end series Putty but early Putty is eh. The movie is nice but not great, and it's shame.
 
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is there a reason why Beetlejuice's 4th season is longer than seasons 1-3 combined? 1-3 = 29 Episodes while 4 = SIXTY-FUCKING-FIVE!!! What was it about moving over from ABC to Fox Kids that they just decided to go "lol fuck it, just group everything under one season"

I'm currently ripping the complete collection from SHOUT! Factory, and fucking season 4 takes up TWO cases with 4 DVD's each. No bonus features either, which kinda sucks.
 
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Celebrate Nite said:
is there a reason why Beetlejuice's 4th season is longer than seasons 1-3 combined? 1-3 = 29 Episodes while 4 = SIXTY-FUCKING-FIVE!!! What was it about moving over from ABC to Fox Kids that they just decided to go "lol fuck it, just group everything under one season"

I'm currently ripping the complete collection from SHOUT! Factory, and fucking season 4 takes up TWO cases with 4 DVD's each. No bonus features either, which kinda sucks.
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Welcome to syndication, baby, crank out 65 new ones, tack the first three batches on and milk that rerun money for a few years.
 
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We've officially got our first look inside the new CN/WB Animation Studio courtesy of Emmy Magazine.
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Looks pretty cool honestly...
 
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I like Moral Orel a lot but the pacing starts out pretty slow. Clay makes the show for me with how weird he is. Wish the show had gotten a proper conclusion oh well.
 
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Celebrate Nite said:
is there a reason why Beetlejuice's 4th season is longer than seasons 1-3 combined? 1-3 = 29 Episodes while 4 = SIXTY-FUCKING-FIVE!!! What was it about moving over from ABC to Fox Kids that they just decided to go "lol fuck it, just group everything under one season"

I'm currently ripping the complete collection from SHOUT! Factory, and fucking season 4 takes up TWO cases with 4 DVD's each. No bonus features either, which kinda sucks.
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When I was a kid I watched the tapes more than I did on TV. I thought the show was over after one season. *sigh*
 
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We've officially got our first look inside the new CN/WB Animation Studio courtesy of Emmy Magazine.
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Looks pretty cool honestly...
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I mean, it looks nice but I'd be surprised if you told me it was a cartoon studio. It looks like a high-end hotel.
 
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Autistic Gunspergings said:
Modern architecture is a meme nowadays. I guess they were trying to go for a "cartoony" art style with odd shapes and whatnot, but I just don't think it's going to age well.
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If they wanted to go that route then the buildings should have straight up been made to look like they came from a cartoon. Build the studio to resemble mung dhals kitchen from chowder or some thing like that.


Ngl the inside feels like it'd be a cool place to spend a day. Old cartoon vhs tapes you used to get at the video store, a statue of chowder that from I hear was commissioned when the show was new, and that lounge with the models.

Seems like a chil place.
 
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if anyone is familiar with seeing vewn's work once in a while in their recommended, she's uploaded a new one today

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seemingly in theme with the rest of her videos being absurdist/satirical, but the face reveal is odd (don't recall anything similar from a glance on her channel)
 
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