US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[mlanguishi]

Can someone explain why they think unmuted microphones would be good for Kamala? Do they really think the "A BLACK WOMAN IS SPEAKING UH-HUH HONEY" line will hit that hard? Trump absolutely crushed Hillary with unmuted microphones.

Yes, they expect him to 'go crazy' on her and she'll be able to act like the poor slave black mammy getting whipped. That's all there is to it and it's not going to work. These debate games are such a sign of desperation, they don't know wtf to do cause nothing is working.

 

[MrJokerRager]

This might sound silly, but how did you guys and girls learn about politics, and when did you become conservative?

When I learned how it was all lost.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Can someone explain why they think unmuted microphones would be good for Kamala?

Kamala needs to be interrupted, it's her only chance. Having to speak extemporaneously for 90 seconds at a time without interruption is going to be a disaster for her. I think it's 50/50 she still finds a way to back out.

 

[0713]

Can someone explain why they think unmuted microphones would be good for Kamala? Do they really think the "A BLACK WOMAN IS SPEAKING UH-HUH HONEY" line will hit that hard? Trump absolutely crushed Hillary with unmuted microphones.

They're saying this:

she "will be fundamentally disadvantaged by this format, which will serve to shield Donald Trump from direct exchanges with the Vice President."

And this is the best response to that nonsese:

Yeah she's telling on herself with this "I am disadvantaged by this format!" schtick. If your argument can't hold up if you can't interrupt or be interrupted by the opponent your ideas suck, you suck at debate, you suck at life, and you should go home and eat your doritos.
She's so embarassing.

 

[Betonhaus]

I'm wondering if it's possible that Trump is perfectly capable of choosing not to interrupt Harris so she embarrassed herself, and whenever he chooses to relent for her debate format she is forced to actually go and debate? Like if he has the muted mic debate and trounces her, she goes and blames the debate style for her floundering, then he goes "ok let's have a debate your way then" and now she has no choice but to have a second debate. I don't think it's possible for any debate format to work in her favor.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

getting suddenly angry at the name of Lake Calhoun something NO ONE had a problem with before and renaming it to something no one can pronounce

what the fuck

 

[DocAwe]

This might sound silly, but how did you guys and girls learn about politics, and when did you become conservative?

I started paying attention to politics when I stumbled across Michael Savage one night at work listening to the radio because I forgot my CD wallet.

 

[CaddestSlown]

If you have an Indian's original last name documented somehow (her grandparents, don't go based off Harris - jeets change their name when they migrate to white countries), you can look up what caste they belonged to and how shit they were.

The grandfather's family name is Gopalan, born in a Tamil Brahmin family? Conservative. Lived in a place called Karol Bagh, both were he and grandma were born in a place called Thulasendrapuram. Grandfather married grandma when she was 12. Grandpa was a glowie that worked with refugee management and grandmother was a... woman's rights activist and community organizer. I'm unsure if their family name ever changed, as far as I know they're pretty upper caste. I don't have much context for this information, but I know it means they're very much a rich family.

Pretty much each of their children went on to get higher education, even Kamala's mama.

I guess the big notes homework is to look into their family history, like deep into their family history. But it probably doesn't have to go that far.

 

[Egg McMuffin]

I started paying attention to politics when I stumbled across Michael Savage one night at work listening to the radio because I forgot my CD wallet.

Funny you say that I just came across this interview with him and Tulsi Gabbard recently; he seems to be doing well.

 

[ForTheHoard]

Funny you say that I just came across this interview with him and Tulsi Gabbard recently; he seems to be doing well.

Savage still has the most based firing from a news network ever. He got a show on Fox in the late 90's/early 00's and it only lasted a couple weeks because some gay guy called in and Mike told him to go die of AIDS.

Edit-MSNBC, not Fox. Looking back, I have no idea why they ever hired him.

 

[Meat Target]

Harris: "I'm a strong woman! I'm speaking!"

Also Harris: "I'm at a disadvantage!"

Seriously, can anyone imagine this bitch handling things like this with other world leaders? My goodness.

Schrodinger's Girlboss: simultaneously a force to be reckoned with and always needs special treatment for a fair fight.

 

[HackerX]

I started paying attention to politics when I stumbled across Michael Savage one night at work listening to the radio because I forgot my CD wallet.

The Savage Nation was the go-to for cool stuff long before I knew what the hell he was talking about. The only thing close to that experience was surfing the radio during some long-distance driving and stumbling on a guy talking about vampires at 2 or 3 AM. Unfortunately, I have obvious concerns with ... ahem...EARLY LIFE.... as well as his son being the CEO of Rockstar energy drinks, but I want to believe he's one of the good ones.

 

[tehpope]

Also Gish Gallop, which is something I'd never heard before but on DU and other sites they act like it's some long term thing everyone uses.

IIRC, Gish Gallop is a technique creationists use. Like Ray Comfort the banana guy. Overload people with questions so they give a stupid answer.

 

[autistic dog]

There is this thing black people do where everything is oppressive and its always an external factors fault they cant get things done. Women do a similar thing but its more self centered and the oppression can be cause by something on earth not being designed specifically for them.

Both groups would get a lot more real world support for their causes instead of lip service if they replaces all that with a humble sense of appreciation for what they have. Kamala manages to combine both of those and bring in 5 degrees of Kevin Bacon where not only is she oppressed but is also your fault. This makes it outright impossible to help her or work with her on issues even if you wanted too because any discussion turns into a struggle session again you halfway through.

Back in the day this was an entirely non-issue because you could smack them up side he head to get them actin right again. There is something primal about explaining how good life is by swiftly making the situation much more unpleasant temporarily. If anything this seems to have been the ONLY way black people and women understood how good their lives were.

 

[babadook]

In that same time there was Krautgate with the pregnant trouts and RageafterStorm. What Kraut did pissed me off and was following the Mister Metokur series on it. At a certain point during the scandal we were all presented a crossroads decision, do we embrace White people and the right? Or do we embrace people like Kraut and Tea? I choose to embrace White people and the right. During that scandal a 4chan thread brought up Kraut and Tea's Kiwifarms page and embed a link to it. Curious I clicked through and it was the first time I've ever heard of or used Kiwifarms. Years later I finally decided to get an account

Pretty much my first contact with the farms, with the added courtesy of me lurking for years before making an account

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

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what the fuck

That's how we all felt when that happened. To add more, a lot of small businesses in that area had Calhoun as part of their name due to location. When the city and dnr changed the name of the place they bullied all the local businesses there and tried to label them as racist unless they changed there names. Like I said before, no one cared that it was named after John C Calhoun. People saw it as being named after a historical vice president and nothing more. People liked the name because it had a nice ring to it and was a nice place to be during the summer. It's not shocking that the same people that got pissy over it's name burned down the uptown district and that part of Lake Street and Hennepin avenue a few blocks further over George Floyd.

 

[Harvey Danger]

There's going to be plenty of people watching. Plenty of people saw the debate with Biden, and that effectively became the straw that broke the camel's back for Pedo Pete.

A lot of eyes are going to be on this. I sense there will be copium ... Lots of it.

That's the only reason people will watch--they've been told that a debate can go so badly, it boots a sitting President off a ticket. They want to see if a train wreck will happen again. But everyone's forgetting the media is the one who solidified the train wreck narrative--if they were still on Joe's side, he would have been crowned the winner, no matter what clips Trump posted on Twitter.

But Harris won't be as bad as Biden. She'll look like a draw by comparison, to any undecided voters, so they'll wait for the media to tell them what to think. And the media, glancing nervously at the calendar, will anoint her the winner.

Remember the short lived talking point from the Biden campaign, whining that Trump lied a hundred times but the media wasn't talking about his lies? Now they'll talk about his "lies". Global thermonuclear fact checking will be deployed. Nobody will question anything Kamala said, just praise her for saying it in the face of Trump's bluster.

 

[mlanguishi]

IIRC, Gish Gallop is a technique creationists use. Like Ray Comfort the banana guy. Overload people with questions so they give a stupid answer.

Right, well I saw on leftist sites say that Trump used it during the Biden debate when they all were stunned that biden could barely talk and said Trump simply dumped endless lies and that's what made him so shook up he couldn't answer or speak lol. They'll do that again if kamala freezes up or lashes out too.

 

[babadook]

To be fair, seeing Tim Pool, Nick Fuentes, Sytx, Laura Loomer and other annoying YouTube people get fucked in the ass by feds would be really, really, really funny. All they need to do is add Destiny and other breadtubes to it for the ultimate chefs kiss. Do that, and I might apply to be a glowie right now.

I hope this sets a precedent for the DoJ to go after other foreign funded lol-politicaldrama-cow streamers. Annoying political streamers might start filing for bankruptcy once they lose such a profitable source of shady griftbucks (alternatively they register as a foreign agent?)


...& in a just world, even the tankie streamers that receive fat stacks of foreign propaganda cash would be under investigation (for example, Nebula's obvious bizarre pro-Qatar bias. Heck, one of their creators actually made a video bragging about how Al Jazeera is a progressive unbias news source free from political agendas and/or interference )

This won't happen because breadtubers are a government asset

 

[StarkRavingMad]

That's the only reason people will watch--they've been told that a debate can go so badly, it boots a sitting President off a ticket. They want to see if a train wreck will happen again. But everyone's forgetting the media is the one who solidified the train wreck narrative--if they were still on Joe's side, he would have been crowned the winner, no matter what clips Trump posted on Twitter.

But Harris won't be as bad as Biden. She'll look like a draw by comparison, to any undecided voters, so they'll wait for the media to tell them what to think. And the media, glancing nervously at the calendar, will anoint her the winner.

Remember the short lived talking point from the Biden campaign, whining that Trump lied a hundred times but the media wasn't talking about his lies? Now they'll talk about his "lies". Global thermonuclear fact checking will be deployed. Nobody will question anything Kamala said, just praise her for saying it in the face of Trump's bluster.

I disagree. The media tried its damndest for a few days to gaslight everyone into believing that Joe "just had a bad night" but "at least he was honest." When that didn't work (because his polls tanked), and when Biden's post-debate interviews were also a catastrophe, the media had no choice but to throw him under the bus at that point. The public response actually forced some major Democrats to come out of the woodworks to do damage control to try to calm their base down. Not even the DNC could ignore the doom and gloom. Jen Psaki, Gretchen Witmer, Gavin Newsom, Nancy Pelosi, AOC ... All of them actually did some significant TV appearances to say stuff like "Hey! There's always 2028! Never lose hope!"

A debate moment ruined Harris' presidential hopes once. I believe it can be done again. If Trump pulls off at least once Tulsi Gabbard moment, she's toast. And I don't think any media gaslighting will work, just like how it didn't work when they tried to make excuses for Biden.

Sure, I personally don't think her numbers will tank as hard as Joe's did among Democrats, but that's just because the Democrats are desperate at this point and they know it's OVER if Kamala doesn't pull this off, so they'll convince themselves that she did. I do, however, believe it could convince a sizeable amount of Democrat voters to stay home instead of vote, and it could very well sway some independents.