DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell: General Discussion #2

[DarkScrubPhil]

My thought is this is an example of confessing to a lesser transgression to cover up a major crime.

No one really cared about Phil playing WWEC. No one really cared if he spent money. It's the bankruptcy fraud and possible tax fraud that's the issue. It's the spending on WWEC when he was begging for food and rent.

Another favorite manipulation tactics is making claims without providing any evidence. If Phil really sold the account, there would be receipts. Communications between the buyer and Phil. But we don't get that. Instead we get, "Just trust me bro." Phil could have shown the evidence to someone else who Phil trusted and that person could have vouched the evidence. But, no, Phil couldn't do that.

Phil is still a manipulative greaseball liar, and I don't believe him when he says he sold the account. I hope the IRS gets to him.

 

[Grease Fountain]

I mean, if someone committed a felony to access my bank information, I'd be pretty fucking angry as well.

Sure, but he was pinned down before the bank leaks and he knew it. The name changes, Discord connection, Line connection, profile pics, etc. all came before that, and he was already angry then.

It makes no sense if you're familiar with the deep lore. Most people aren't. The people that watch Phil are not familiar with the evidence that pins him dead to rights on this issue, and will accept this story as reasonable. Even the ones that have an IQ above room temperature may question parts of his story, but will accept the general thesis that it was his account but he has since sold it.

Even accepting that anybody who wasn't already on his side is satisfied with this new story, everybody who already believed the previous story now knows he's a liar, assuming they care.

 

[Overdrive MASK_de_SMITH]

It's amazing how Phil blundered this WWE Champions "confession."

He just doesn't fucking get why people were wondering about this shit to begin with. Phil, people aren't looking into you because you spent money on WWE Champions, they're looking into you because you spent their money on WWE Champions, then cried poor the next day and begged for tips to pay for your house. If you can spend thousands on a match 3 gatcha game, then you can pay your fucking bills. It's insane that after all this time he doesn't understand why people were following his DownFromTheRafters account.

And doesn't he owe an apology to all the people who correctly pointed out that the account belonged to him afters years off calling them obsessed idiots and conspiracy theorists?

And this whole "I sold the account" is dogshit. If that's the case, Phil, how much did you sell it for? This is where he fucked up, in my opinion. Instead of completely owning up to the fact that he's a gambling addict and that he spend so much money on this game, he lies again by saying he sold the account. That way he can use that to excuse any activity in the account going forward, since now he can say "that's not me, I sold the account, that's someone else." It's a weak ploy to keep playing the game and get detractors off his back, but it's so fucking weak.

What Phil should have done was admit to it and push that as the start of a redemption arc. But instead he buries the truth with even more lies. Honesty and personal integrity are anathema to this man. He'll never fucking change.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

I’m not moving the goal post or coping, I genuinely think Phil is too dumb to google search most of his problems, and I’ve watched him not listen to people too many times to think someone could give him advice he would actually take. We clearly just have different views on his level of intelligence, I don't think anything goes on upstairs when he needs to sell something except "gotta sell something online, head to ebay"

100% agree. I'd even go so far as to say it's a proven fact at this point, we've literally seen people in Phil's chat handholding him with exact directions on what he needs to do and he still can't figure it out or finds some way to fumble things. Based on that, I don't think it's a stretch to say that Googling stuff is beyond what Phil is capable of.

Hell, even as part of the debunk shenanigans, he more or less confirmed this when his chat was saying he could have googled captured cards and Phil adamantly insisted that he couldn't. There's also just been countless times Phil was seemingly unable to look up/even thought to look up basic information.

Unrelated to Google, but to add yet another hole to the story (not that it needs it) but Phil claims he had to sell the account because it was an emergency. Is that really the only way he could raise funds, specifically selling an (going along with his lie) unwhaled account? That means he needed less than $1,000. Probably less than $500 if we're playing pretend and acting like it wasn't a whaled account. This was also apparently back in 2020, when Phil had a more reliable audience where he could do an impromptu begathon and probably get whatever he needed for that emergency. Actually, now that I think about it...wasn't that around the time of the vest streak being a thing? Where Phil was reliably getting $200 a stream?

 

[Gramh]

I can't wait/hope we get to see Side Scroller Adam's response to this, the amount of shit talking Phil has done about those guys has been legendary since the time after the interview and it entirely stems from the WWE Champions narrative as the moment everyone just couldn't with DSP anymore.

 

[Necrosan]

100% agree. I'd even go so far as to say it's a proven fact at this point, we've literally seen people in Phil's chat handholding him with exact directions on what he needs to do and he still can't figure it out or finds some way to fumble things. Based on that, I don't think it's a stretch to say that Googling stuff is beyond what Phil is capable of.

Hell, even as part of the debunk shenanigans, he more or less confirmed this when his chat was saying he could have googled captured cards and Phil adamantly insisted that he couldn't. There's also just been countless times Phil was seemingly unable to look up/even thought to look up basic information.

Unrelated to Google, but to add yet another hole to the story (not that it needs it) but Phil claims he had to sell the account because it was an emergency. Is that really the only way he could raise funds, specifically selling an (going along with his lie) unwhaled account? That means he needed less than $1,000. Probably less than $500 if we're playing pretend and acting like it wasn't a whaled account. This was also apparently back in 2020, when Phil had a more reliable audience where he could do an impromptu begathon and probably get whatever he needed for that emergency. Actually, now that I think about it...wasn't that around the time of the vest streak being a thing? Where Phil was reliably getting $200 a stream?

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that the whole vest money went to WWE Champions and Doordash.

I mean, what alternative is there? What else does he spend money on? The only other ones I can think of is Khet's gut and the car.

 

[SauceRyuKen]

Man, he couldn't even be arsed to bring up a second but less whaled account huh? Well Phil, if you wanna shake us loose finally... I'm sure there'll be a new batch of detractors anyway, you being the roseycheeked likable fella that you are, but motherfucker, you say this like you don't know what our answer's gonna be:

"I've been lying to you for years!"

You have, thanks for taking notice! We all knew though so it was kinda pointless, but narcs gonna narc.

"But you can believe me now, even though I'm not showing any proof and just giving you obvious vague misdirection and what evidence there is still massively stacks against me!"

Well if it's the same to you and with your track record I'm gonna just choose to press X to doubt again. I don't think you're gonna convince anyone without showing the phone. Look, this is waaay beyond reasonable doubt at this point. Just because no one saw you actually plunge the knife into the victim you were found covered in blood 5 minutes away from the murder scene, and witnesses claimed the murderer was a skinnyfat greasy polack who merrily powerwalked away from the corpse as he snorted and acked. At this point the ball is in your rooftop. If you wanna clear it up, cool, but it's gonna take more than "Source: Trust me, bro."

Rafters is still Phil as schedules, spending, habits, typing, and everything else lines up, I don't know what to say. Yes, Phil has been massively distress begging for years to keep wasting on gacha shit. At least gamble it. He's never gonna change and this is in fact the worst possible stance, wanting to keep begging but with confidence and "A good rep" but keep WWEC his dirty little secret. When the King's Kasino Klowns move on he's gonna be worse than he was before with the dents. Best of luck though, this train is going off the rails REALLY fast in a way I think there's no coming back from.

Either the new dents stick around and proudly fund a pudgy guy's transparent, yet top secret hoganpud addiction or he's gonna be stacking shelves with the soulmaid within two years.

What's next? Some Prince Charles denial? Nah I never fucked Camila Parker Bowles and that one phone sex recording was probably some other dude, but he sounded handsome, admirable and positively kinglike? Everyone knows, dude. Denying things this obvious is entirely pointless.

And about the Big Kat, the Fat Kat: We know it's a good deal but girl, you should tighten the screws a little bit. This guy has you working retail and spending the equivalent to your salary every month on Hoganpuds? No honeymoon, no children, no house improvements, just so he can afford gacha? Is there an upcoming divorce rape plan that'll surprise no one but Phil? You could get half his bag every month just to sit at home playing unmodded Skyrim. Scopely will probably sue you for damages, though, but that's fine. Think about it.

 

[GibMoneyPls]

I'd like to know if Phil thinks you keep new friends by lying to them too? Does he think PPP and the other guy (and whoever he plans to interview now) aren't regular dudes? Does he really believe he can make people ride his dick AND give him money, while blatantly lying to their faces? Edit: I guess I forgot he's been doing this for 42 years

Phil, I know you have no friends so it's hard to learn these things. The best way to lose your "friends", and new paypigs is to lie to their face now and expect them to believe this new lie. He expects this new group to pretend to be retarded and believe his lies and continue giving him money. Good luck with that.

Hope the KC guys are going this route. Demand Phil tell him the REAL truth. Straight up tell him if he doesn't admit to reality, you're taking your show and your fans and their money away from him. This'll make him squirm, live on stream, and be actual kino.

 

[AGoodBrazilian]

Why still lie about the LineApp? What kind of sponsorship would be deal exclusively on this app?

 

[SurfingNoise]

Detractors this, detractor there, detractor here... uh, he really has it rough

 

[Elite Kipchak]

"my girlfriend goes to a different school" energy what a fag lmao

 

[johnkimble123]

What is lost in all the WWE Champions talk too and what's also probably lies upon lies...

• Fake proposed but also did it as a last ditch effort but also Leanna called for him when she had her panic attack but also when Phil was with her in the hospital he asked "was that real" and all she did was take off the ring & hand it to her but also the relationship was pretty much over a year prior when May Burst happened (good luck finding the truth in there) - but he basically blamed her & detractors for May Burst (depression and 'lack of being romantic' whatever the fuck that means)
• He was asked either earlier in the day or the previous night to name another friend, since this is post-Rambo post-Seattle move, and he said "his gf" (who apparently was on the outs with), his viewers (who he has repeatedly said aren't his friends), and random unnamed people that he kept in touch with (LOL). Later hears himself say he had no time for friends and agrees - we all knew this but he's also blamed detractors for "scaring anybody who would play co-op with me away"
• Blamed detractors for his business being on the decline which lead to the iJustine comment - no accountability here
• Said detractors could dish out trolling but when it was turned against them they couldn't handle it (citing how SoK turned on each other and folded soon after, or something) - lol
• Literally sounded like he was feeling bad for the people trying to catfish and blackmail him, which I guess was the alternative to just giving detractors a W there - his schtick here was they messed with the wrong person but no credit was given to anybody who figured this out. He used something similar when it came to Laveria.
• He retconned the back stuff and said that being in Seattle cured him (reasons being less walking to get to the car, not having to deal with snow, and shorter drives to get places, or something). Meanwhile all the swaying on the documentary was post move, like years post move.
• Said that detractors were wrong about his gin love and that he liked tequila and vodka more (not sure how that helps your case bud)
• Blames trolls for ratting him out to Washington about not registering a business or something & the tax guy stuff again - again, no accountability for not doing the least bit of research
• Laughed about scamming a chair from the company that was just drop shipping cheap Chinese ones to him
• Laughed (as he has all react) about his shit talking online, the same shit talking he claimed he was doing during the FGC days because he was a drunk, and the same shit talking that he had to cry his way out of, and the same shit talking he still does on SF6
• Said that it was wrong to do fundraising events (funniest thing here is he calls people who called him out for this 'critics' not detractors, funny how that works). He literally says "nobody wants to tune into a stream and hear somebody say that they have a big bill to cover", which will be fun to go back to when he inevitably starts begging around tax time with the bill he may have. Also leaves out that he's done this through July 2024, albeit not in events but "I need money for my day off".
• Pretends like he can't read any chart that paints him in a negative light and takes the weirdest thing from them (oh look at how low my viewership was, instead of seeing that the chart was showing how you made a fuck ton despite having low stream numbers). Did this with the "ban" chart too.
• Admits that not every dollar raised during "tax" fundraisers went to taxes, and then blamed people for not also putting 2 & 2 together and realizing that the money also went to other things because he still "has to eat this week too" - so another lie since he was making $$ the rest of the week too for "eating" and other stuff
• Has a good hearty laugh about the Jasper reveal, and also whines that Joon pinpointed on him saying he had the cat "for a while" as if that makes it better
• Pretty much laughed at how much debt he had at the time of the bankruptcy, even saying "he didn't even remember some of those accounts", which should tell you a lot about him and finances

This is just one night, and it's been the same thing most of the react honestly. The few times he takes blame about things, there's always "but also" to deflect part of the blame elsewhere. Even if he says "I take 100% blame" he still then deflects some of it. Just wanted to put this out there so it isn't lost that his whole reaction to this documentary has been a good fun laugh at him being a liar, a bad friend, a bad boyfriend, and pretty much a bad person.

 

[CaptainDeTractor]

The sad part about the continued WWEC lies is that the Whalechairs are still gonna Whalechair and give this faggot beggar more money. I know if I were repeatedly lied to and screwed over, the last thing I’d do is sign my checks over to the cocksucker that did it, but we’ve seen how this goes. Although I’d like to believe that even SOME of the dents realize how retarded this lie is.

 

[Need Help With Tips]

Why did DSP lie to Khet about WWE Champions?
Won't someone please think of the BBWs?

 

[FormerPro]

This guy still not understanding that no one would give a single fuck how much he spent on this game if he wasn't on stream begging that he's going to lose his house and can't afford groceries is incredible. The only reason people are so intent on "getting him" is because he literally sits on stream 6 days a week calling them mentally ill for pointing out something that's the truth and still continues to do so.

He shows absolutely 0 contrition for anything. When Joon points out his lies it's because he "mispoke or misremembered or whatever" and it's not important. But Justin Wong and Chris Furtado must immediately and sincerely apologise and move on with their lives.

He doesn't seem particularly bothered by the actual mentally ill stuff the crazy people on the internet have done (i.e swatting him) his main concern is that people are relaying things he's said/done to the people it's relevant to:

• The detractors harassed iJustine by telling her I said she only got where she was by gangbanging execs
• The detractors harassed John Rambo by telling him I lied about him not wanting to play Mario Party and was extremely jealous of him for being better received in project 9.
• The detractors harassed the judge by pointing out I was committing fraud by not disclosing I had a cat or a million collectibles.

I think some people may have thought this "redemption arc" timing with the documentary may have finally opened his eyes, but anyone that paid any attention in the past 10 years knew this was the only outcome. If there's one thing worse than being a lying, sheltered, delusional hermit with no friends and no redeemable qualities it's letting the detractors get one over on you.

 

[Prince Lotor]

Fake proposed but also did it as a last ditch effort but also Leanna called for him when she had her panic attack but also when Phil was with her in the hospital he asked "was that real" and all she did was take off the ring & hand it to her but also the relationship was pretty much over a year prior when May Burst happened (good luck finding the truth in there) - but he basically blamed her & detractors for May Burst (depression and 'lack of being romantic' whatever the fuck that means)

The amount he continues to narcissistically retcon and shit on Leanna is still crazy.
She was still wearing the engagement ring in the hospital. The way he casually said tonight that he's pretty sure he caused the panic attack by screaming at her that day to explain why we should feel bad for the Phil onscreen about to say "just give her a pill and leave her there". The way he explained that they "hadn't been romantic in over a year and were basically roomates" (totally not like his current relationship) is Phil saying he basically ignored her for a year. Then his narc ego got injured during the Fake Engagement Ring fiasco and so he decided to try to "patch things up" with a ring but was still ignoring her to the point the Nier Automata fight happened. But also they had amicably broken up behind the scenes months ago, but also he wanted to know if her asking for him during her panic attack really happened, but also they were just roommates, but also the relationship basically fell apart as soon as they got to Washington, etc. . .

 

[San Dimas High School]

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Whichever ween gets his account banned would be helping him more than Tut and KC combined.

 

[Very Honest Content]

inadvertently getting Phil to "admit" (while still lying) to being Down from the Rafters, does that make PPP and Warski two of the best detractors in history?

A cat got him to show the account open on a stream. Cucked by Jasper, eternally, why even live?

Phil knows everything about WWE Champions, except how to stop playing it.

 

[EmpGulcasa]

Who could have predicted he was lying all this time.. truly, he is a master manipulator. The Loki of our time.

 

[johnkimble123]

The amount he continues to narcissistically retcon and shit on Leanna is still crazy.
She was still wearing the engagement ring in the hospital. The way he casually said tonight that he's pretty sure he caused the panic attack by screaming at her that day to explain why we should feel bad for the Phil onscreen about to say "just give her a pill and leave her there". The way he explained that they "hadn't been romantic in over a year and were basically roomates" (totally not like his current relationship) is Phil saying he basically ignored her for a year. Then his narc ego got injured during the Fake Engagement Ring fiasco and so he decided to try to "patch things up" with a ring but was still ignoring her to the point the Nier Automata fight happened. But also they had amicably broken up behind the scenes months ago, but also he wanted to know if her asking for him during her panic attack really happened, but also they were just roommates, but also the relationship basically fell apart as soon as they got to Washington, etc. . .

This also really speaks to another thing that he exposed just by doing the react, but that we’ve seen and known all along…

When the other party isn't around to debunk a lie, he’ll spin a story any way he can to benefit himself. He doesn’t think he’ll get caught so he lies. Like I said earlier he’s a sociopath. This is the first time he’s gotten confronted to his face about lies, and he laughs about most of them, or deflects and blames other people’s actions for why he lied.

Heck he probably looks at Boogie with scorn, not because he lied about having cancer, but because he was so stupid to lie about something so major instead of telling 1000 “small” (in Phil’s mind” lies. He probably pats himself on the back for not being dumb enough to tell a lie like that and instead just lying about things that are harder to prove.