Plagued Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

[WelperHelper99]

Anime is a visual media.

Characters that are supposed to have some maturity will be drawn with a developed body, teenaged or adult.

The other side of the argument of "This character is a teenager" is made by only teenagers and retarded "adults" (Look up My Hero Academia forums/discussions).

I don't care what you goon to, but when the character is a literal child that goes to elementary school, you're a pedophile.

Good way of putting it. Really when I see these arguments being made, the infighting, I see the lolicons winning. This is what they want and this is how they have demolished discussion for decades. We're talking about children nigga. That can barely count to ten. That's a loli. No lolicon pedophile is jerking it to Jotaro or whatever from JoJo's that looks like a brick shithouse.

 

[LavenderMenace]

I see the lolicons winning.

Lolicon and Shotacon coomers jerk off to grade schoolers getting raped by adults. If or when their significant other finds out that they coom over cartoon little girls, they're gonna be single forever.

Just look at Chris Tyson, as soon as it became mainstream that he talks to kids about hentai and likes lolicon, nobody wanted to be near him. His wife divorced him. His family has cut contact with him. He's a miserable troon thats probably gonna kill himself because he had the best job on earth yet he couldn't stop gooning.

Let them think their winning because as soon as normal people find out their secret interest, reality will smack them in the face.

Just like troons, everyone knows who you really are.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

Lolicon and Shotacon coomers jerk off to grade schoolers getting raped by adults. If or when their significant other finds out that they coom over cartoon little girls, they're gonna be single forever.

There's also "people" like Rev, whose wife supports and engages in said behavior. They have normalized said tendencies among certain groups of people, that's undeniable

 

[LavenderMenace]

There's also "people" like Rev, whose wife supports and engages in said behavior. They have normalized said tendencies among certain groups of people, that's undeniable

Absolutely. Women being into shotacon or lolicon, to me, is somehow more disgusting. All their lives, they know about how preditory men can get. Yet they'll go ahead and do or support the same disgusting actions that too many young girls have to experience in the world.

It just makes me genuinely sick.

 

[God of Nothing]

Absolutely. Women being into shotacon or lolicon, to me, is somehow more disgusting. All their lives, they know about how preditory men can get. Yet they'll go ahead and do or support the same disgusting actions that too many young girls have to experience in the world.

you're under the mistaken impression being a victim makes one less inclined to victimize others
the reality is, like pedophiles, they may very well perpetuate the abuse they can suffer

 

[WelperHelper99]

Lolicon and Shotacon coomers jerk off to grade schoolers getting raped by adults. If or when their significant other finds out that they coom over cartoon little girls, they're gonna be single forever.

Just look at Chris Tyson, as soon as it became mainstream that he talks to kids about hentai and likes lolicon, nobody wanted to be near him. His wife divorced him. His family has cut contact with him. He's a miserable troon thats probably gonna kill himself because he had the best job on earth yet he couldn't stop gooning.

Let them think their winning because as soon as normal people find out their secret interest, reality will smack them in the face.

Just like troons, everyone knows who you really are.

My main concern is just infighting. I've watched this fight for years. The last few have been unusually good against the Lolicons. But that's because normies saw it and did something.

Unity is crucial. These people are slippery. Have been for decades. They love arguing "well what is a loli?" when we all know what one is. But that argument has shut down more discussions against them than you can imagine. It's how people like Rev exist at all and are successful. I just really want this thread to succeed and not implode. I've seen that too many times.

 

[TNF]

They love arguing "well what is a loli?" when we all know what one is.

It's honestly weird how lolicons try to change the definition of what a loli is. Now lolicons will argue that every 2D women with a petite body type can be classified as a loli, even though their faces are drawn like that of an adult or they act like adults.

When I was a teenager only prepubescent children were considered lolis by lolicons.

 

[God of Nothing]

It's honestly weird how lolicons try to change the definition of what a loli is. Now lolicons will argue that every 2D women with a petite body type can be classified as a loli, even though their faces are drawn like that of an adult or they act like adults.

When I was a teenager only prepubescent children were considered lolis by lolicons.

This is how they hide.
>Your waifu is in her teens?
>You're a lOliCoN
they will point at a young woman with big tits and a child and say it is the same or not whenever it suits them
it's why there is no point in having this debate: we all know what it is, but only one side ever tries to pretend it's not.
fucking pedophiles

 

[The Foxtrot]

The 'ackshully she's a 1,000 year old dragon who just looks and acts like a 7 year old girl' and 'ackshully she is canonically 16 and you're a pedo for liking an image of an anime girl drawn off-model with huge tits' are equally stupid.

Nobody cares what arbitrary age is assigned to a cartoon but what it's obviously depicting. It's easy to identify pre and post pubescent body types. If you're attracted to prepubescent body types, whether it's a cartoon or 3d, you're a pedo.

There's not that much functional difference between, for example, the "canon" appearance of Hatsuni Miku, and some "fanon" depictions that widen her hips, make her thighs fatter, give her a bigger ass, or make her tits big(ger). If I showed the former to a non-weeb, they'd still assume that she is a young adult. If I showed the latter to a non-weeb, they'd assume she's an older adult. Whacking it to Hatsune Miku is fine.

Now if I used Megumin from KonoSuba as an example to do the same thing, there's a world of difference between the two as "canon" Megumin more closely resembles a teenager who has barely hit puberty (but could also just be taken for an adult who just didn't really have a growth spurt). Whacking it to Megumin is really on-the-line and you could argue someone who does is a lolicon/pedo (but not as strongly).

Cirno or Flandere Scarlet from Touhou? Yeah no, they might be "canonically" a few centuries old, but they're both obviously little girls. If you look at them and think "I'd bang that!", you're a sick fuck.

Unity is crucial. These people are slippery. Have been for decades. They love arguing "well what is a loli?" when we all know what one is. But that argument has shut down more discussions against them than you can imagine. It's how people like Rev exist at all and are successful. I just really want this thread to succeed and not implode. I've seen that too many times.

As I said above, my personal litmus test is "does the character resemble a child or a teenager?". Neither are acceptable, and both creep me out, but we can clearly see the average lolicon isn't trying to whack it to "dubiously legal" art like of Megumin, they're whacking it to full on "CALL THE COPS AND CHRIS HANSEN NOW!" art.

 

[WelperHelper99]

It's honestly weird how lolicons try to change the definition of what a loli is. Now lolicons will argue that every 2D women with a petite body type can be classified as a loli, even though their faces are drawn like that of an adult or they act like adults.

When I was a teenager only prepubescent children were considered lolis by lolicons.

They want that. They want to divorce themselves from the truth, which is loli is little boys and girls getting fucked. The more things they can make "loli", the more they can NORMALIZE it. You ever hear of NAMBLA or the Prostasa foundation? Literal pedophile NGO's? That's what they do. They want to make loli as normal in anime as dudes throwing energy blasts at eachother and shouting retard loud. Because once they do that, it is game fucking over. That is their win scenario. And at that point the loli mind virus will spread at a rate you have never before seen.

As I said above, my personal litmus test is "does the character resemble a child or a teenager?". Neither are acceptable, and both creep me out, but we can clearly see the average lolicon isn't trying to whack it to "dubiously legal" art like of Megumin, they're whacking it to full on "CALL THE COPS AND CHRIS HANSEN NOW!" art.

They want to fuck toddlers. They are pedophiles. They would be on to catch a predator today if it was still on air. That is who these people are. Don't get it twisted.

 

[Markass the Worst]

You ever hear of NAMBLA or the Prostasa foundation?

We have a thread on Prostasia.

 

[WelperHelper99]

We have a thread on Prostasia.

Yes we do and everyone should read it because Prostasia is the gunt guard for pedophiles everywhere and as such lolicons. Horrible people.

 

[TNF]

This is how they hide.
>Your waifu is in her teens?
>You're a lOliCoN
they will point at a young woman with big tits and a child and say it is the same or not whenever it suits them
it's why there is no point in having this debate: we all know what it is, but only one side ever tries to pretend it's not.
fucking pedophiles

They want that. They want to divorce themselves from the truth, which is loli is little boys and girls getting fucked. The more things they can make "loli", the more they can NORMALIZE it. You ever hear of NAMBLA or the Prostasa foundation? Literal pedophile NGO's? That's what they do. They want to make loli as normal in anime as dudes throwing energy blasts at eachother and shouting retard loud. Because once they do that, it is game fucking over. That is their win scenario. And at that point the loli mind virus will spread at a rate you have never before seen.

Don't get me wrong, I get why they do it.

It's just frustrating that they have taken over every east asia animated media related discussion and now act like they aren't the ones who poisoning everything with their pedophilic fetish. Even with franchises that don't panders to their fetish.

 

[The Foxtrot]

They want to fuck toddlers. They are pedophiles. They would be on to catch a predator today if it was still on air. That is who these people are. Don't get it twisted.

Oh I'm not getting it twisted, just pointing out that both are not normal, but also not the same. Lolicons trying to conflate the two is just a piss poor attempt at defending their own actions.

It's just frustrating that they have taken over every east asia animated media related discussion and now act like they aren't the ones who poisoning everything with their pedophilic fetish. Even with franchises that don't panders to their fetish.

It's fucking tiresome to have to deal with the "I LOVE CUNNY!" faggots. I wish we could just make them bite the curb in Minecraft.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Don't get me wrong, I get why they do it.

It's just frustrating that they have taken over every east asia animated media related discussion and now act like they aren't the ones who poisoning everything with their pedophilic fetish. Even with franchises that don't panders to their fetish.

You know the Sam Hyde meme:

They literally cannot stop themselves, they are demented. Like any STD, they have the urge to spread their mind plague with everyone. The only cure is talking about it, talking louder than the cunny spammers on 4chan. If they could shut up about it the problem would have fixed itself by now. But the urge to rape kids doesn't go away that easily.

Oh I'm not getting it twisted, just pointing out that both are not normal, but also not the same. Lolicons trying to conflate the two is just a piss poor attempt at defending their own actions.

Yeah I get it. They love twisting their words. Its how they have imploded discussions on the internet since message boards became a thing.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

The converse of this, when an anime girl who is canonically underage is drawn as an obviously post-pubescent adult generates outrage is one of the most bizarre zoomer trends to me. The 'ackshully she's a 1,000 year old dragon who just looks and acts like a 7 year old girl' and 'ackshully she is canonically 16 and you're a pedo for liking an image of an anime girl drawn off-model with huge tits' are equally stupid.

Nobody cares what arbitrary age is assigned to a cartoon but what it's obviously depicting. It's easy to identify pre and post pubescent body types. If you're attracted to prepubescent body types, whether it's a cartoon or 3d, you're a pedo.

this shit is why i don't trust ages in anime

Omg so Recorder to Randoseru is just reminding me that this really should be brought up in discussion about what makes something lolicon/shotacon or not.

For those not in the know:

Recorder and Backpack is a seinen 4-koma manga about a 17-year-old sister and her 11-year-old brother. The biggest gag throughout is the fact their ages don't match with their physical appearances, and so high school girls and other adult women who swoon over the boy because he's impeccably handsome get shell-shocked upon hearing or realizing he's still a kid.


Yoiko is about fifth-grader Fuuka Esumi just being a kid, but she has the body of an adult woman. Grown men get naughty thoughts and get peeks of her panties until they realize she's been hanging around with a gaggle of schoolchildren who're her friends and then feel they've been had.


Hatsukoi Monster is about a 15-year-old girl getting her first boyfriend whom saved her from getting hit by a truck, but she finds out he's only 10 which makes her really confused because she's already fallen in love with him. Though apparently the mangaka might be into that which is why she made it, so this one's rather iffy.


Teacher's Time is another 4-koma manga about a 27-year-old teacher who gets treated like she's one of her students (or even just any other kid) and not taken seriously because she's so smol. This was an actual scene:

"Don't forget, at the end of the day I have the body of a grown woman!"
[imagine spot]

I feel called out uguu.

The one big thing these series all have in common is that the main comedy is around how these characters just do not look their age at all. This is something that is pretty unique to Japanese entertainment, in a sense, in that it's not uncommon to come across someone like that IRL, but you very rarely have Western media centering itself around it because it could lead to claims of pedophilia and the like. Anime just doesn't care because it's a drawn, 2D medium, so it can make this sometimes-uncomfortable situation into something hilarious.

So if you ask me, these series (Hatsukoi Monster is one I'm unsure about) aren't lolicon/shotacon series simply because they're comedic and tongue-in-cheek in nature. It's similar to how If My Wife Becomes an Elementary School Student has that premise to be "shocking" but it's actually not a lolicon series nor a gag series about size =/= age, it's the furthest thing from it as a drama, and the series itself also is very self-aware about the weirdness of it since the husband is still madly in love with his wife and no longer sees this little girl as anyone but his dead wife, and the girl (the reincarnated wife) calls him out on it.

This really does go back to context in general, but even though these series could bring out the lolicon/shotacon crowd, they may not necessarily use them as fap material simply because it's hard to stay aroused when you're laughing a lot.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

You only way you can actually beat the lolicon/shotocons using the "violent video games" defenses, is if you're a jack thompson, otherwise unfortuantely, this sort of "gotcha" is gonna win the argument for the loli defenders, since the spectators or normies are gonna view a person who thinks "violent video games don't lead to real violence, but lolicon can lead to real rape" is a hypocritical moralfag or at least logically inconsistent.
To them it's either "bad things in media doesn't make people do bad things IRL or it does, not one or the other". Hence why I'd advise against using arguments against lolicon that use the same logic/reasoning as "violent video games make people violent", since it would only set you up for defeat.

That really isn't the case, as @Markass the Worst has already explained why they are different very well here ITT. But the tl;dr is that, commiting a violent act in a videogame is wildly different in both execution and depiction than doing so IRL, while being sexually attracted to a character that resembles a minor in both their appearance, their behavior, and their actions, is not all that different from being sexually attracted to an actual minor, as in both cases the principles behind them are the same.

"Don't forget, at the end of the day I have the body of a grown woman!"
[imagine spot]

She looks a little like a Digimon character

 

[Equal Rights for Androids]

So if you ask me, these series (Hatsukoi Monster is one I'm unsure about) aren't lolicon/shotacon series simply because they're comedic and tongue-in-cheek in nature

>HAS THE FACE AND BODY OF A CHILD
>NOT LOLICON

I don't care what you say, Recorder and Backpack's girl looks like a little girl therefor any sexualization of her is pedophilic. The boy looks like a grown ass man so he fucking is.

Yoiko, that shit does not happen in real life. That's a grown ass woman.
Hatsukoi Monster that's a grown ass man. Not even little boys who hit puberty early grow to that size so soon in 5th grade.

Also, I think people who specifically jack off to fictonal 14-17 year old characters are, pedos, just as much as the lolicons. In fact there's sort genre of lolicon that is specifically attracted to teenage fictional characters

Jerking off to it because you know they're underage and that fact turns you on. Taboo fetishism is the genre.

We already consider, adults who are specially attracted to teens as pedos, I don't think attraction to drawn teenage characters should be an exception, neither acceptable.

Difference being that 'teenagers' in anime are not remotely the same development, appearance, or emotion wise to real teenagers. You're trying to base shit on age just because the law says so. That's weak morality on your end. You need better reasoning for why someone thirsting over grown ass adult male like Jotaro is a pedophile. Because you look really fucking stupid calling me a pedophile for it. You actually hurt the anti-lolishota movement by making arguments like that. Because it'd be unreasonable to most people. Stick to arguing about easy-to-identify loli shit which is a child's body.

 

[WelperHelper99]

That really isn't the case, as @Markass the Worst has already explained why they are different very well here ITT. But the tl;dr is that, commiting a violent act in a videogame is wildly different in both execution and depiction than doing so IRL, while being sexually attracted to a character that resembles a minor in both their appearance, their behavior, and their actions, is not all that different from being sexually attracted to an actual minor, as in both cases the principles behind them are the same.

Sexual urges and violent urges are two completely different catagories. There are people called pacifists that will die before commiting a act of violence. Sexual attraction? Turning that off is... nigh impossible unless you're born broken.

 

[James done did it]

This really does go back to context in general, but even though these series could bring out the lolicon/shotacon crowd, they may not necessarily use them as fap material simply because it's hard to stay aroused when you're laughing a lot.

I think the entire point of most of these shows is they exist in an environment where pedophilic sexuality is significantly more acceptable than it is in the West and they're generally lampooning it. I don't think they're meant to be erotica. But stripped of that context I'm sure lolicons will wank to just about any kids they can find in a pinch.

I also agree that people who are sexually fixated on teens in particular are pedophiles. People who are incidentally attracted to a post-pubescent teenager aren't, necessarily, though acting on that attraction is still generally immoral. Biological and legal/social adulthood are different things and there are multiple good reasons that legal/social childhood lasts several years longer than biological childhood in most countries. Of course none of this applies to a cartoon where things are a lot simpler.

Semantical autism does matter because it's the only way someone can even attempt to justify being sexually attracted to a cartoon child without also being a pedophile. The majority of people haven't fallen for their sophistry but 15 years ago most people weren't open to the idea that trannies could be real women either. And I see way more hentai/coomer garbage IRL than ever before. I was struck a few weeks ago when I saw some profoundly normal looking fuck have some epic "haha its censored hentai xD!!!" stickers on his truck. Like I could run into this guy working in a machine shop or something and there he is proudly advertising he's jerkin his gherkin to anime girls after work.