Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[bluegenius8585]

I am this, and I thank to whatever God that I hadn't been groomed, because I was peak troon groom material.


Have you watched the SRS surgery thread? Is all tomboys chopping their tits off.

I have seen bits of the SRS surgery thread but its honestly body horror for me. I can imagine some stink ditch like Yaniv without wanting to see one.

I don't know if you can groom a non minor but it was creepy what happened to me based when you think about it. Mentally ill at the time wanting something to blame it on and it doesn't take much to manipulate someone into thinking they are "trans"

 

[Chandelier]

Well, there are the 'gay male' pooners who have (bareback!) penis-in-vagina sex, and who haven't yet rotted out their ovaries and uterus with wrong-sex hormones, who suddenly discover oh wait my large, female gamete fused with a male's small gamete and now there's a baby a-coming.

Since many of these pooners have been slathering or injecting exogenous testosterone during their pregnancy (and some don't even stop when they discover they are, in fact, pregnant), you may have a point - the offspring are likely to have multiple medical problems and may in fact be sterile.

IIRC, in the first few months T injections do make pooners more fertile as the estrogen has to compensate for the increased testosterone, before the excess T fries everything. Dried out vaginas, rotten uteruses, you name it. That's why they need hysterectomies.

"Gay male sex" involving penis in vagina sex will always just be spicy straight sex. The retarded pooners arguing otherwise should be mocked relentlessly. Gay sex is sex between those of the same SEX. But nooooooo...all about detaching genitalia from sex now.

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Thread tax. A nephew of mine, who isn't even ten, might be a future Troon out because his BPD mother enjoys dressing him up. I'd otherwise ignore this but he is on the spectrum and mommy dearest is as shit lib as you can get.

 

[Rich Evans Simp]

I just learned that a young male relative I care about now has an iPhone. He never had any interest in “girl things”, but he’s fat, short, and has long hair. I don’t think the poor kid has ever been invited on a play date or been encouraged to have a classmate over to his house. He’s on the cusp of puberty. He does have married parents and an involved dad, but both parents are kind of eccentric and clueless.

I have a terrible feeling he’ll get into porn and the troon hugbox.

 

[TooManyKittens]

I have seen bits of the SRS surgery thread but its honestly body horror for me. I can imagine some stink ditch like Yaniv without wanting to see one.

I don't know if you can groom a non minor but it was creepy what happened to me based when you think about it. Mentally ill at the time wanting something to blame it on and it doesn't take much to manipulate someone into thinking they are "trans"

Criminally? No I don't think you could cross a legal line with a mentally competent adult.


Morally? Fully believe so. I lost a good friend, circa early 20s, to a creep of an older guy who was 55ish. Once he'd established a relationship she cut off everyone, dropped off all social media, and cannot be reached by anyone in any manner. The last time we spoke she was whispering on the phone but insisting she was fine it was her life before this asshole thst was traumatic so we all had to give her space.

Legally? Dude didn't cross that line. Morally? I hope he drops dead.

Theres other ways to do it without age difference imo, most of them require using power dynamics to be coercive and predatory.

Anyhow to keep to thread topic,
The absurdly high number of troons I know seems to have somewhat stabilized. No new unexpected troon outs, one that was 80% there confirmed, but it feels like possibly it isnt such a wildfire ripping through fresh targets as much.

Interestingly some of the handmade stuff I know seem to be wavering a little in their support too. They'll never be full anti troon but they all seem to be waking up to the reality this can't be legit and organic in all cases and just how insufferable and absurd troons are being allowed to act.

The one who confirmed though? Boy howdy what a nutcase. Nobody i was close to thank God but I found his Facebook alt. Its a DID system where his female self is 20 years younger and just pre op because she has to share a body with the post middle age male part of the system (his words not mine). Full Lolita dress, and beard. At least online its a small number of asspats. But I know for a fact some of the asspatters are pretty happy to be physically distant from this person and not deal with the drama irl.

Another trooned kid I am aware of has gone full mental illness schizo, and the ensuing shit is tragic and sad. 2nd person in an extended family to be terrible, troon out, then go completely off the rails of reality. That family hasn't backed off the uber left stances but has suddenly got 100% quiet about the lgbtqia/gender advocacy. (Ngl I feel bad for the family. I can promise this one didn't push the kid to troondom and they bought the line of suicide or transition from professionals.)

Its a wierd dichotomy, a lot of things feel like they're starting to give way and yet the craziest of loons are still running for troonshine.

 

[the printer is outo fink]

I just learned that a young male relative I care about now has an iPhone. He never had any interest in “girl things”, but he’s fat, short, and has long hair. I don’t think the poor kid has ever been invited on a play date or been encouraged to have a classmate over to his house. He’s on the cusp of puberty. He does have married parents and an involved dad, but both parents are kind of eccentric and clueless.

I have a terrible feeling he’ll get into porn and the troon hugbox.

If you care about him, are you close enough to step in and take a role in his life to help direct him a bit? My kid is on the cusp of puberty and going through a bit of an awkward stage. I talk to him about what's going on in as child appropriate a way as possible. He's now better than most adults at picking up on indoctrination in the media, especially kids' media. I'm more worried about school when he's a little older as his current school is very sensible and avoids indoctrination but there is nothing comparable at higher levels.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Well, there are the 'gay male' pooners who have (bareback!) penis-in-vagina sex, and who haven't yet rotted out their ovaries and uterus with wrong-sex hormones, who suddenly discover oh wait my large, female gamete fused with a male's small gamete and now there's a baby a-coming.

Since many of these pooners have been slathering or injecting exogenous testosterone during their pregnancy (and some don't even stop when they discover they are, in fact, pregnant), you may have a point - the offspring are likely to have multiple medical problems and may in fact be sterile.

I've been exposed to degeneracy for so long that I see a woman get a spark back in her eye from becoming pregnant and immediately think "fucking fetishist" rather than "as He commands".

I genuinely believe this whole troon thing is just a 10-12 year development on back of gender identity. More dudes dress in skirts, okay. The extreme flip-side: Failed males in heels, chastity and recording it all for life-long blackmail. Women? Well I guess they've had lesbian phases and taken pride in being "corrected" into liking pink and cock since forever, so not much new there.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

The absurdly high number of troons I know seems to have somewhat stabilized. No new unexpected troon outs, one that was 80% there confirmed, but it feels like possibly it isnt such a wildfire ripping through fresh targets as much.

Hopefully it doesn't just "stabilize," but drop like a rock when everyone finally recognizes transgenderism for the batshit insane superstition/pseudoscience/mental sickness it is.

 

[FedPostalService]

If you care about him, are you close enough to step in and take a role in his life to help direct him a bit? My kid is on the cusp of puberty and going through a bit of an awkward stage. I talk to him about what's going on in as child appropriate a way as possible. He's now better than most adults at picking up on indoctrination in the media, especially kids' media. I'm more worried about school when he's a little older as his current school is very sensible and avoids indoctrination but there is nothing comparable at higher levels.

You’re a really good parent, kiwi bro, and it warmed my heart reading that.

Your kid is obviously loved and I’m sure they’ll grow up to be a good person.

Keep winning, all kiwi parents out there!

 

[Rich Evans Simp]

If you care about him, are you close enough to step in and take a role in his life to help direct him a bit?

I do spend time with him when his parents aren’t present, but for various reasons my home can’t be a regular after-school hangout or even a weekly visit, which would be ideal. His parents suck in a lot of ways when it comes to vidya, electronics, being sedentary, and under socialization, but they could be worse. Despite their oddities, the dad is fairly traditionally masculine and the mom doesn’t use social media. Trying to stay optimistic, here.

You sound like a great parent. Growing up is hard

 

[autoerotic bus accident]

Acquaintance became a "they" today and the message was shared with me by a third party:

"Hey friends,

I don't want to make a huge post about it... But I have spent the last few weeks coming to terms with my identity. I was finally able to put into words to [husband] all of my feelings and a life time worth of doubts and insecurities.
I am nonbinary, my pronouns are they/them. Please don't feel bad if you skip and refer to me as she still, I will not hold it against you.
I just wanted to share this with my friends "

As a person who has a real life with real problems, I felt nothing but irritation and secondhand embarrassment at seeing this message. This woman is 30. I recognize that she is probably unfulfilled in her marriage either sexually, emotionally, or both and that's why she felt she needed to do this, but after six years in the gender wars I actually find I have no empathy left whatsoever. I hope the dozen emoji reacts she received was sufficient immediate dopamine stimulation to make up for the stabbing intractable shame she is going to feel in a few years.

Also, this announcement already felt so passè that it was like traveling in time. When is this going to end?

 

[Fapcop]

Acquaintance became a "they" today and the message was shared with me by a third party:

"Hey friends,

I don't want to make a huge post about it... But I have spent the last few weeks coming to terms with my identity. I was finally able to put into words to [husband] all of my feelings and a life time worth of doubts and insecurities.
I am nonbinary, my pronouns are they/them. Please don't feel bad if you skip and refer to me as she still, I will not hold it against you.
I just wanted to share this with my friends "

As a person who has a real life with real problems, I felt nothing but irritation and secondhand embarrassment at seeing this message. This woman is 30. I recognize that she is probably unfulfilled in her marriage either sexually, emotionally, or both and that's why she felt she needed to do this, but after six years in the gender wars I actually find I have no empathy left whatsoever. I hope the dozen emoji reacts she received was sufficient immediate dopamine stimulation to make up for the stabbing intractable shame she is going to feel in a few years.

Also, this announcement already felt so passè that it was like traveling in time. When is this going to end?

Should have asked her what “non binary” actually means, lol.

Maybe it’s time to get preggers or something? If her life is unfulfilling, playing pretend sure as fuck won’t help.

Please don’t tell me she has kids already.

It so tiresome, isn’t it?

 

[Alexander Thaut]

met a pooner. they were a school security guard with bass pro shop merch on them and kept acting hyper-aggressive. it was pathetic. shame because she was a 5'0 chick with a decently cute face. probably could have had an easy life if she'd spruced up and "went to charm school"

 

[Fapcop]

met a pooner. they were a school security guard with bass pro shop merch on them and kept acting hyper-aggressive. it was pathetic. shame because she was a 5'0 chick with a decently cute face. probably could have had an easy life if she'd spruced up and "went to charm school"

Please tell me you ma’am’ed her!

 

[Clyde Cash's Left Teste]

Acquaintance became a "they" today and the message was shared with me by a third party:

"Hey friends,

I don't want to make a huge post about it... But I have spent the last few weeks coming to terms with my identity. I was finally able to put into words to [husband] all of my feelings and a life time worth of doubts and insecurities.
I am nonbinary, my pronouns are they/them. Please don't feel bad if you skip and refer to me as she still, I will not hold it against you.
I just wanted to share this with my friends "

As a person who has a real life with real problems, I felt nothing but irritation and secondhand embarrassment at seeing this message. This woman is 30. I recognize that she is probably unfulfilled in her marriage either sexually, emotionally, or both and that's why she felt she needed to do this, but after six years in the gender wars I actually find I have no empathy left whatsoever. I hope the dozen emoji reacts she received was sufficient immediate dopamine stimulation to make up for the stabbing intractable shame she is going to feel in a few years.

Also, this announcement already felt so passè that it was like traveling in time. When is this going to end?

Somebody really does need to start a rumor that Non-binary is actually an alt-right movement or something

 

[Marvin]

Please tell me you ma’am’ed her!

This.

Also, probably the best thing to do is to "mess up" once, let them correct you, and then just exaggeratedly use their preferred name and pronouns for the rest of the time.

Like "ok whatever you say SIR what would my little man want to drink? we've got coke, sprite, root beer..."

Just rub it in every time you address her for the rest of the time.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

As a person who has a real life with real problems, I felt nothing but irritation and secondhand embarrassment at seeing this message.

You should say something. Doesn't have to be big or long or profound. Just a quick snippy remark to make her feel that little twisting tug of doubt and embarrassment.

It is a tax we must make them pay, if we want this to end.

Somebody really does need to start a rumor that Non-binary is actually an alt-right movement or something

This could work. After all, don't "terfs" use the NB colors? I can't remember what white/green/purple is supposed to be, but you see terfs with those colors in their X profiles.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Nonbinary people are like the kids who answer “infinite wishes” when asked what they would wish for.

 

[Metal Slime 20x6]

After all, don't "terfs" use the NB colors? I can't remember what white/green/purple is supposed to be, but you see terfs with those colors in their X profiles.

White/purple/green and white/purple/yellow were the colors used in flags during marches by suffragettes in the early 20th century, so that’s why they’re the terf colors.

 

[Blanche Devereaux]

I reinstalled Facebook tonight for shits and giggles, just to be greeted with the news that a longtime acquaintance's husband of four years is "finding her true self" or whatever. While I'm not shocked, considering he cross-dressed on Halloween the past three years and looked the type, I am honestly mortified for her and baffled that she's choosing the support him and stay in a marriage to a fucking loser. She's got questionable self-esteem but I'm hoping once the shock wears off and she starts to realize the shit she's in, she'll quietly take off. She's an attractive woman in her early 30s with a career, they have no children, and she could easily bail now and find a guy who isn't a degenerate. I'm depressed.

 

[Fapcop]

I reinstalled Facebook tonight for shits and giggles, just to be greeted with the news that a longtime acquaintance's husband of four years is "finding her true self" or whatever. While I'm not shocked, considering he cross-dressed on Halloween the past three years and looked the type, I am honestly mortified for her and baffled that she's choosing the support him and stay in a marriage to a fucking loser. She's got questionable self-esteem but I'm hoping once the shock wears off and she starts to realize the shit she's in, she'll quietly take off. She's an attractive woman in her early 30s with a career, they have no children, and she could easily bail now and find a guy who isn't a degenerate. I'm depressed.

Social pressure to be a handmaiden is likely at least part of the answer. You may want to discreetly reach out and let her know that you support HER no matter what choices she makes.