Apalachee Highschool Shooting in Georgia on September 4th, 2024

I agree that what little evidence we have of kids calling him gay means that he is gay. Boys calling their peers fag is run of the mill with tons of other unimaginative hazing boys do to each other. If it rolls off your back, you are fine. If it visibly bothers you, or you over react, or even worse, spaz out, the kid will just get picked on more and more especially on the points that make him over react.

Given he had a junkie drug dealing felonious mother, parents just divorced and suggestions from that maternal grandfather that the kid's own father got the mother hooked on drugs, he was probably lacking quite a bit of personal security and couldn't take the normal amount of razzing.

If the rest of his classmates knew about his parents divorce, the thing to have done is if the teachers noticed him being picked on, would be to ask some of the bullies to lay off of him for a little while since he was going through a real bad time, and that the bullies wouldn't like it if they were getting picked on at one of the worst times of their lives.
 
If the rest of his classmates knew about his parents divorce, the thing to have done is if the teachers noticed him being picked on, would be to ask some of the bullies to lay off of him for a little while since he was going through a real bad time, and that the bullies wouldn't like it if they were getting picked on at one of the worst times of their lives.
This is a good take imo. Why not talk to the bullies like real people to see if you can elicit a little empathy rather than just tell the victim they need to toughen up (which is also a good skill to have, dont get me wrong). Might not want to give details of the issues the kid is facing to the bullies though. Idk it worked on me once. I said something that I didnt even think twice about being hurtful. And my brother just calmly said something along the lines of 'yeah that person gets enough shit because of X and I am not comfortable talking like this about them.' Kinda stopped me in my tracks and did make me pause and think about how I said things without it being a punishment type situation. Never was a bully though just a dumb kid repeating dumb things
 
Mom told the school to check on her son on the day of the attack, as she was worried he was going to do what he did.

Are the same faggots who cheered on locking the father up for manslaughter, also going to chase up manslaughter charges for the school? What about the FBI? Or is justice applied unequally and on a whim because of feelings and emotion?

This is the slippery slope you wanted, now slide down it. Call for the arrest of the Head of the school.
Officials accuse him [Colin] of allowing his son to possess an AR-15 style rifle.
Why is it always the same gun?
 
This is a good take imo. Why not talk to the bullies like real people to see if you can elicit a little empathy rather than just tell the victim they need to toughen up (which is also a good skill to have, dont get me wrong). Might not want to give details of the issues the kid is facing to the bullies though. Idk it worked on me once. I said something that I didnt even think twice about being hurtful. And my brother just calmly said something along the lines of 'yeah that person gets enough shit because of X and I am not comfortable talking like this about them.' Kinda stopped me in my tracks and did make me pause and think about how I said things without it being a punishment type situation. Never was a bully though just a dumb kid repeating dumb things
To be fair, in most cases I think you need to work on both ends of the bullying issue. It is just in this case, where the kid is really going through a shit hard time, it is probably time to lean in a little harder on the bullies to give the kid a break. I bet most of them would lighten up enough to give that kid some breathing room. Let's be honest. Most of the classmates probably already knew the shit he was dealing with. They just lack the maturity and wisdom to take that into account when they are thinking about razzing him.

On the whole "toughen up," end. Most kids getting bullied don't get told what they need to do.

1. Enroll the kid in some sort of self defense class. Karate or Judo are just fine. The kid doesn't need the best self defense training. Just enough to give him a bit of confidence to make the bullies beat on someone else. Also martial arts training is typically good about instructing the students on how to not abuse their training.

2. Kid needs to start doing push ups and lifting weights. He is being bullied because he looks weak. If you look more muscular & less doughy bullies will pick on someone else.

3. Kid needs to train up on athletics at least to the point where he is no longer picked last for teams. That isn't that high of a bar. Learning how to build up his endurance through regular running. Spending a couple of hours with his father in the park each weekend playing ball, catch, hitting a baseball, kicking the soccer ball around. The key is to show him how to practice and make sure he knows that if he keeps it up, he can be better than half the kids in his class. Team sports are critical in terms of both social skills, and bonding with other boys through shared experiences.

4. Boyscouts. Camping, Canoeing. Merit badges to acquire manly skills that he will need to know later in life. It is also great for acquiring social skill outside of the pecking order of school life.

5. Create a culture where it is the norm for him to invite friends over to do things. Getting the first friend over might be hard for him. Maybe invite someone over from boyscouts and have the father work on merit badge stuff. Level up to board games. Then grabbing another friend to go practice sports at the park. This stuff adds up once you get the ball rolling. Once he becomes the kid who comes up with ideas of things to do, his social problems will be mostly over.

6. He needs to be told that the only way to deal with bullies that are physically pushing him around and hitting him is to fight back. No authority at school is going to tell him that. And yes, he will get in trouble. And yes, it won't be fair. And yes, the teachers never do anything when the kid is just being bullied. But the only other alternative is to be pushed around and hit all of the time for the rest of his life. Accept the punishment as part of the price for standing up for himself. Kids like that get told all of the time that fighting is bad. But nobody ever tells them that there is a time and place where that no longer applies.
 
Call for the arrest of the Head of the school.
lol Oh honey.
Schools only want the whole "in loco parentis" thing when it benefits them, not when they're supposed to protect the kids.
There will be no consequences for ignoring a warning and getting people killed.
None at all.
 
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This whole let's try teenagers as adults thing is getting retarded.
 
This girl was sitting next to him in class. It sounds like the school immediately tried to find him after the mother’s call but it was too late; he’d taken the bag with the gun already. There was also some confusion with a similar name. I’m guessing the other boy was named Colton or something. Since it was only his second day, it’s possible that the roster that they looked at wasn’t updated yet so they saw a similar name and pulled that kid first.

Warning for autists: she is a teenage girl that has just been through trauma and rambles as she narrates, so it’s long.

Don’t get me started on the fact that she is apparently allowed to sleep in that class.



The black girl that went to the door has given an interview to the news. She looked out the window before opening it and saw the gun, so she backed away. The teacher asked her what she was doing and she said that Colt had a gun.
 
People seem to have an obsession with his hair as proof he was some kind of fag, but I don't buy it. Firstly if you look closely at court photos can see a lot of split ends. Those can be eliminated by consistent brushing which a gay man would do. It looks like he just added a step of conditioning to make it look good which only takes at most 5 minutes a day in the shower.
I think that if you look into his past, you will find a person who died of cancer recently. If so, he was probably growing his hair out for locks of love, a charity which provides wigs for cancer patients out of donated hair. I'm even willing to clock that death as the motive of that's the case.
Wtf are you on about, locks of love? He looks like a scruffy kid who needed a haircut. I’m sure getting the kid a regular trim wasn’t high on meth dad’s priority list. Colt also looks like a kid who wanted to hide behind his hair, which is pretty common at that age for both boys and girls.

I think the thing people have focused on is that his hair has been dyed. It’s obviously not any sort of professional dye job, the kid just dumped a $2 bottle of peroxide on his hair which is why it’s such a hideous yellow. This is pretty common for adolescents to do because they can do it themselves and it’s cheap. He might have also done it as a new look or disguise in prep for the shooting.
lol Oh honey.
Schools only want the whole "in loco parentis" thing when it benefits them, not when they're supposed to protect the kids.
There will be no consequences for ignoring a warning and getting people killed.
None at all.
There’s nothing to indicate the school ignored it. The mother called the school in a panic about a student who had only showed up once the entire month. The phone call was ten minutes. The school was probably struggling to figure out what was going on and who the kid was and if he was even at the school. Colt had only transferred into that district that semester and he had one shown up one day out of three weeks thus far. I doubt they even knew what he looked like.

So far the only thing that’s been reported is that he texted, “I’m sorry mom.” Now crazy meth mom seemed to realize this was ominous, but I’m not sure any guidance counselor would freak out over being told this. I’m sure then the mom had to start rambling about abusive dad, divorce, no her son actually doesn’t even live with her, does she know why he’s missed the first three weeks at his new school, etc…trying to give context and background about a student that had only been there one day so far. From what’s been reported so far I don’t think the school can be blamed for anything. They were probably trying to find out if attendance had even been reported and if he was there.
Given he had a junkie drug dealing felonious mother, parents just divorced and suggestions from that maternal grandfather that the kid's own father got the mother hooked on drugs, he was probably lacking quite a bit of personal security and couldn't take the normal amount of razzing.
Colt was a walking open wound. Almost any normal razzing or hazing would have set him off. However, I got the impression the “ur gay fag” shit happened at a previous school. Colt had been at this school all of one day so far before he showed up with a gun.
 
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This whole let's try teenagers as adults thing is getting retarded.
Weird that the judge ruled out a death sentence.

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was also an underaged killer who commited a far less (in comparision) gruesome murder and the judge was willing to sentence her to death. She only got off of that throught appeals. That this kid won't have to face even the possibility of a death penalty when he's being tried as an adult is very strange
 
Weird that the judge ruled out a death sentence.

Alyssa Bustamante
was also an underaged killer who commited a far less (in comparision) gruesome murder and the judge was willing to sentence her to death. She only got off of that throught appeals. That this kid won't have to face even the possibility of a death penalty when he's being tried as an adult is very strange
She was in Missouri. And in the end she only got this on a plea deal: Life imprisonment with the possibility of conditional release in 2024, plus consecutive sentence of 30 years in prison. All appeals failed. In general the system doesn't want to kill kids and has laws against it even if they deserve it. It is the way it is.
 
Unlikely he came out because of his abrasive father (and fucked up mother), and he's only 14.
Not as though he has a body count, regardless

He mentioned tranny acceptance, when he mused about the desire to attack an elementary school in 2023. Why the fuck would he mention that in the first place, if it wasn't on his mind.

When someone at high school was called a fag, by multiple people, they usually were (or became) fags. Teenagers are not known for having nuance, in that respect.
If he was trans-phobic (and is demonstrably mentally unstable) he would have lashed out at a slur like that.
My experience, which granted is >40 years ago, is that the kids who accused other kids of being gay were often that way themselves. I've gotten a few walloping surprises on social media, although most of them were not surprises.

The biggest shock (and she was NOT a bully!) was the classmate who, ca. 2000, was on a Discovery Health Channel "Changing Sexes" program, on the f-to-m episode. I just about fell off my chair when he held up his graduation picture; I had no idea that this cute girl who always had perfect hair, makeup, and clothes was hiding such a horrible secret.

Weird that the judge ruled out a death sentence.

Alyssa Bustamante
was also an underaged killer who commited a far less (in comparision) gruesome murder and the judge was willing to sentence her to death. She only got off of that throught appeals. That this kid won't have to face even the possibility of a death penalty when he's being tried as an adult is very strange
I lived in the region at the time. That the crime was committed BY A GIRL really blew a lot of people out of the water, until we learned about her background. She didn't have a chance either.
 
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I lived in the region at the time. That the crime was committed BY A GIRL really blew a lot of people out of the water, until we learned about her background. She didn't have a chance either.
Yeah. It seems like having an addict as mother and a felon as father tends to create people that are violent/have poor impulse control. Somebody should look if there's a correlation between the two
 
Yeah. It seems like having an addict as mother and a felon as father tends to create people that are violent/have poor impulse control. Somebody should look if there's a correlation between the two
It doesn't really need looking into. Its a sad fact of reality that this mix of crime and drugs only breeds more crime and drugs. Hense the term "white trash". It doesn't usually end in murder or school shootings, but usually it ends pretty sad and miserable, with the kids propagating the cycle, too uneducated and too poor too dig themselves out of their hole, and too impulse driven to make any real progress on bettering themselves.
 
The only Question is did the judge find out about him being gay before ruled death is not included.

The judge didn’t rule anything.
In 2005, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Roper v. Simmons that the death penalty is unconstitutional for people who were under 18 when they committed a crime. The ruling was based on the idea that adolescent brain science makes it unconstitutional to sentence juveniles to death.

And there is no confirmation that he is gay at this point.
 
As far as the shooter's opinions about trans stuff, I wonder if he was angry that being gay was seen as bad by his peers but being trans was put on a pedestal?
I could see that as the sort of thing to frustrate a cisgender gay teen to violence.
I've created several poo-storms by stating that I believe that most teenagers who say they are trans are doing it for attention, and also because they think that identifying this way can get them a free pass for assorted bad behaviors.
 
AR style rifles are extremely common here in the US. Even among gun enthusiasts it's more popular than any other type of "assault" type rifle. And they're so common for a good reason, it's basically the best type of gun money can buy.
their commonality results in them being used in many shootings, and their being used in many shootings results in future shooters using them in an attempt to copy those that came before. an example being the buffalo guy who used a bushmaster AR specifically because of that brands notoriety for being used by high profile shooters/criminals
 
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