Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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My point was not that it should necessarily be illegal for a citizen to pursue these surgeries (though I do think society should shame the hell out of them and discourage them that way)
Why not both? Shame is a brilliant tool that deters the majority, and laws act as backup for the more committed lunatics.
The argument that: “Well, if we don’t offer these surgeries, they’ll do it on kitchen tables in an unsafe way!” Strikes me as an extraordinarily weak one.
It's more than weak, it's impossible. No system is perfect, and you'll never get a 100% hit rate in anything, no matter how good you are. Minimise the damage for the majority, then move the fuck on.
 
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"Masturbated per the OHSU guidelines yesterday."

Erotic. I immediately had to look that up: here, and attached pdf.

Remember, "Any additional use of or engagement with your penis is a positive thing."
 

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Why not both? Shame is a brilliant tool that deters the majority, and laws act as backup for the more committed lunatics.

It's more than weak, it's impossible. No system is perfect, and you'll never get a 100% hit rate in anything, no matter how good you are. Minimise the damage for the majority, then move the fuck on.
I'm on the fence about that; I do think genuine loonies should be kept on a short leash, if possible, but I'm also too much of a libertarian not to be worried about over-reaching the hand of the state.
 
I'm on the fence about that; I do think genuine loonies should be kept on a short leash, if possible, but I'm also too much of a libertarian not to be worried about over-reaching the hand of the state.
I don't think people being told "no, we don't do that here" when they want to cut their leg off because they're loony or have an amputation fetish really inhibits the usual personal freedoms most people like. And I also think it's retarded to wring hands over extreme body mods and mutilation for the hell of it getting a ban as "overreach" when there are so many other things that are already overreach and no one complains about it. The fact is these people take up the same space in the medical system as legit patients who didn't choose to be there. They use resources and time they do not need to. Many hospital systems are already overwhelmed in a lot of areas. To think these people could possibly only ever effect themselves is retarded. In reality, there are few things we do which doesn't in some way effect others. It's just there are things we considered to be positive or neutral. The negative impacts should be mitigated for obvious reasons, it's just that not everyone always agrees on what they are.
 
repeat again: adults should have the right to do anything they'd like to the body they're in, we already pay for poor trash to get their diabetic obese feet removed, in higher insurance premiums or other ways. it's no more or worse than that shit. It's a lot less people too- amputations and complex aftereffects for the obese and diabetics are a massive money pit, whereas trans complications and amputee-for-fun complications are so much less common.
Everyone else already posted the obvious answer to this, so I will say this instead: why is freedom and rights often get defined as self-destructive behavior these days? Why is freedom in progressive circles often gets boiled down to indulging in self-destruction, like cosmetic surgeries, questionable sexual practices (like hazardous kink), drugs, and such? Just something to ponder on.
I'm not convinced that eugenics isn't one reason the elites have supported this Troon shit.
I told another person yesterday that I think it's eugenics too, although I proposed another reason. I did say that it's not a coincidence that SSA people and mentally ill are main targets. My tinfoil theory was that historically we were always some of the most hated groups, and doesn't matter what we can offer to the world, it hates us and seeks for a way to violently oppress. For some reason, I'm thinking about Alan Turing while typing all this out: an influential figure, but none of this guaranteed anything when he got prosecuted and put on HRT got chemically castrated. And by the way, interesting how queer communities never talk about this when Turing gets mentioned during pride month in June. They just vaguely say he was a victim of homophobia, mention him getting prosecuted, but never talk about hormones being used to "cure" his homosexuality. I wonder why...

In the context of modern day West, how can anyone look at this shit and think that this is better or different from Muslims throwing gay people off buildings, stoning/throwing acid at women and cutting girls' clits off? I'm saying, troonism itself is an acceptable violent oppression in the West against homosexuals/bisexuals and mentally ill. Not a "progressive" thing. But a barbaric oppression that, horrifically, people themselves part take in. Those who push others, deliberately or not, to transition are no different from bitches that cut their daughters, I will die on this hill. Not sure about adults, but I can definitely draw the comparison between FGM practice and "parents of trans kids". Literally zero difference. Maybe even worse in some aspects, at least girls aren't put on hormones for life to further fuck them up. Wait, holy shit, wait a fucking minute... Does this mean the West fell below dark age larping Muslim world in the matter of actual progress? Amazing, what else can I say.

Anyway, going back to what I said that nothing we can offer matters, I can see this subtly getting expressed on a daily basis. Realistically, if I look past things I found deplorable in people I met, a shit ton of troons and mentally ill in general have bright, talented, creative minds and arguably a shit ton of either cool or useful skills, that inevitably either end up being wasted potentials, or people just degrade over time, never putting any of this to use. Neither for hypothetical greater good, nor even for people around them.

To think more about it, it kind of aligns perfectly with what you said too. A relatively huge demographic (that is also more often than not possessing creative mind and skills, aka the "gay or mad artist, scientist, whatever else" stereotype) of "acceptable scapegoats" is getting experimented on, milked for money, and left to die only to be replaced by third world retards who don't know any better (realistically, there are great people everywhere, but I don't think it's a coincidence that it's always some sketchy fuckers who immigrate) and won't demand better job environment. Perfect machine for profiting, from literally every side. Happy, stable, smart, strong people are hard to profit off. Let's fucking destroy it all, big money is on the stake. Doesn't matter that it will cost lives of multiple demographics that are already historically messed up and didn't recover yet, and, probably, cost the nation itself, considering that libqueers openly welcome the most deplorable creatures on this planet that can, and will rape and kill them all in nearest future.
 
Lets get back to the horror show...

hannahvt1998 has posted a 5 month post OP update. We've seen this ditch before (it was one of the memorable ones lol) so I'm sure you regulars will recognise it.


Top tier butchery *chefs kiss*
Even the troons in the comments are being honest for once about how this looks and he admits in the comments himself he can't orgasm.
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Let's draw stink lines with Mr. Mustache!
 
I'm on the fence about that; I do think genuine loonies should be kept on a short leash, if possible, but I'm also too much of a libertarian not to be worried about over-reaching the hand of the state.
Ideally, the state is there to back up the citizens. What we have now, is the citizens are there to back up the state.
Doesn't make the state itself the problem, but how it's functioning.
why is freedom and rights often get defined as self-destructive behavior these days?
Because everything sucks now, capitalist efficiencies have already chewed off all the fat from society and all we have left is muscle and sinew, and over-the-top regulations means creating anything is too hard. All that's left is nihilism and destruction.

At least we now have tranny surgeries to mock.
 
Crosspost from the Tenacious Unicorn Ranch thread, Shiteater Jen got a neovag revision:
I was skimming the Kevin thread and saw that ShiteaterJen had been temp banned on bluesky, and Kevin was doomposting about it. A couple weeks ago he got him amole revised, and started infighting with some other lefty.

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Oh the irony.
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Bad news for those of us waiting for his RPG project.

If someone is brave enough Jen is posting pictures revision surgery on his Bluesky account. I've never clicked on a NSFL, and I don't plan on doing so.
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He should read a cautionary tale called Kevin Gibes about the dangers of complacency.
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The gore you've been craving
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deviant shit that has no place in a civilized society.
We've been "defining deviancy down" in the name of personal liberty for way too long. The normal is considered "weird" and the weird is considered normal. Or at least permissible, in a luxury belief or envious sort of way. Human nature, especially the darker warty side, used to be known as something that had to be curbed and channeled to attain civilization. And to keep the game going and the playing field somewhat level. Now anything goes and nothing matters. Sociopaths and psychopaths are revered and enabled. And while we were all urging each other to be liberated, (especially bio-liberated from those pesky bodies we were born in) while turning a blind eye to the consequences and getting the State and the Market into the act, civilization quietly peaked and is visibly going down now.

Civilization requires everyone to make some sort of self sacrifice for the good of the whole. Do your job. Stay in your lane. Accept your body. Now that we're past peak we've been volunteering (or coercing) others to make sacrifices instead. Outsourcing it to the less powerful. Largely against their will, often against their knowledge and control (where it comes to kids), all in the name of someone else's "liberty". Of "progress".

Self sacrifice (and/or self control) is for suckers, instead of being one of the keys to living a chaos free, humanly connected, and meaningful life.

A new update from a pooner and her little new baby rotdo
Cope, seethe and sandwich. Kek.

All that's left is nihilism and destruction.
And Stockholm Syndrome.
 
hannahvt1998 has posted a 5 month post OP update. We've seen this ditch before (it was one of the memorable ones lol) so I'm sure you regulars will recognise it.

This guy depresses me. If you look at his reddit history, he's pretty obviously just an autist obsessed with trains. He wasn't exactly an attractive man, but he could have made himself a life. Instead the cult got him at 19 and now he's a completely ruined, unfuckable mess forever. His "girlfriend" is also a man.

Dartmouth charged him $100,000 for that Swedish Chef nonsense (of which he paid $1,700 out of pocket). The remainder was presumably paid by Vermont Medicaid, which is the type of use of a super poor state's resources that just makes you want to fedpost real bad.
 
This guy depresses me. If you look at his reddit history, he's pretty obviously just an autist obsessed with trains. He wasn't exactly an attractive man, but he could have made himself a life. Instead the cult got him at 19 and now he's a completely ruined, unfuckable mess forever. His "girlfriend" is also a man.

Dartmouth charged him $100,000 for that Swedish Chef nonsense (of which he paid $1,700 out of pocket). The remainder was presumably paid by Vermont Medicaid, which is the type of use of a super poor state's resources that just makes you want to fedpost real bad.
What do you mean?!

Surely you’re not suggesting that women can’t post obsessively about trains 24/7, whenever they’re not writing about vaginas?!
 
"Masturbated per the OHSU guidelines yesterday."

Erotic. I immediately had to look that up: here, and attached pdf.

Remember, "Any additional use of or engagement with your penis is a positive thing."
This is from a well-respected regional trauma center and medical school:

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Manifest yourself the penis of your dreams, girlies. But remember:

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FUCKING LOL
My favourite quotes
“Is it weird to refer to my dick by masculine pronouns?” - woman brain moment, worrying about fitting in on a sub full of fellow brodoodz.

“Masturbated… gentle tugging… vibe stimulating tdick” - I’ve never met a man who says he uses a vibrator. Of course some male toys feature vibrations, but usually for the benefit of the lady he’s with. Pardon my normal brain on this subject. Don’t worry about the dick baby, just ram the vibrator underneath it.

“Couldn’t feel it” - lol, lmao. Look I’m an epilator user, and I’ve felt stupid enough times to use it on my pits and bits. It hurts. Even tweezing hurts delicate areas
. What an amazing confession from her here. Don’t worry, the nerves will grow back with nerve therapy and supplements! If that fails another surgery will fix it right up!

But, can she stand to piss??


Lets get back to the horror show...

hannahvt1998 has posted a 5 month post OP update. We've seen this ditch before (it was one of the memorable ones lol) so I'm sure you regulars will recognise it.


Top tier butchery *chefs kiss*
Even the troons in the comments are being honest for once about how this looks and he admits in the comments himself he can't orgasm.

It even has hair. Men definitely have different public hair growth than women. Another thing for them to be paranoid about lol

Crosspost from the Tenacious Unicorn Ranch thread, Shiteater Jen got a neovag revision:
I don’t know what I was expecting, but it was not that “I watch children at the park” face. To think that they think that’s a good result… I guess it’s not rotting and falling off (yet).
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“Couldn’t feel it” - lol, lmao. Look I’m an epilator user, and I’ve felt stupid enough times to use it on my pits and bits. It hurts. Even tweezing hurts delicate areas
. What an amazing confession from her here.
Men are notorious for being cheerful and upbeat when they can't feel their penis. Very male-coded sentiment.
 
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