Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Fapcop]

When the USD and all it's associated currencies aren't worth the paper they're printed from, working seasonal jobs in Russia will put you way far ahead of almost everyone else in the West. It'll be the new "work for a Western tech company while living in Asia"

Putin just signed a decree that provides any Westerner with residency and a route to citizenship if they’re tired of Globohomo neoliberal bullshit.

Oh, and Russian fluency isn’t needed.
(Guess they figure you do the decent whypipo thing and learn once you’re there.)

And as an extra bonus, you get free land in Siberia that can become permanently yours if you live there for five years.
(No, Siberia isn’t all tundra!)

In other news:


Relations between Islamists and the Khokhols are on the rise.

Russia should do the smart thing and offer them a few million dollars for just… Making the problem disappear.

Russia is really walking a fine line here; to accomplish its goals without getting into a conflict with NATO, which has it surrounded;

Well… Technically surrounded, sure.

Militarily surrounded though? That’s an entirely different issue. None of the NATO countries could do a whole lot in an armed conflict with Russia.

They’ve already sent most of their armaments to Ukraine and seen it get blown up.

Even UK generals admit that they’d only have munitions for a week or two of actual fighting with Russia.

 

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The plan just got leaked.

Spoiler

 

[Fapcop]

The funniest thing is that even though these down syndrome chihuahuas want WWIII so badly they will be the first ones to be completely eradicated once it starts, and yet they are genuinely too retarded to realize that, because they are incapable of any higher thoughts except RUSSIA BAD and ME WANT DICK IN ASS. Sometimes I think if they got replaced by niggers it would genuinely be an improvement.

Just one nuke for each of the capitals: Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius would solve 90% of the Baltic problem. As in their population. They aren’t huge countries with large populations.

It’s utterly regarded and you’d think the entire country was dropped on its head as an infant.

If Putin has a bad morning, they’re literally all one phone call away from turning into a new beach vacation spot for Russia.

And nope, NATO won’t do shit. If the choice comes down to mushroom clouds over Berlin and Brussels and the permanent Russification of a few million people with waaay too many vowels in their names, it’s not hard to guess what NATO would do.

What type of Ukrainian refugees did you meet in real life?

They’re fucking annoying. None of them seem to learn the language, for the most part doing the ol’ benefit swindle.

Quite a few of them have gotten jobs tard wrangling other Khokhols though.

“You speak broken English and can read and write non-moonrunes? Congrats! You’re hired!”

Also, as someone else commented, they’re like white people with the soul of a nigger or pajeet.

I stayed at a hotel recently that is making big bucks renting out a floor to khokhol refugees. (To the hotels regret it turns out. The money is really good, but now they need to renovate entire floors.)

The result was: Drunk Ukrainians going in and out at all times of night. Fights. Signs that say: “PLEASE DONT PUT ANIMAL OR HUMAN FECES IN THE TRASHCAN!” Or “PLEASE DONT FLUSH MENSTRUAL PAD IN THE TOILET!” In moonrunes.

And the young ones of course stumble around drunk at night, accost local girls or demand cigarettes from total strangers.

They’re fucking awful, and I can’t wait till they get kicked home like the Syrians did.

 

[cybertoaster]

So hows the kursk spergdition going?

and are now 2 of more than 250000 fighting age Ukrainian males who are living here.

Didn't they said they are already in negotiation with the EU to repatriate all those draft dodgers?

If I was one of them I would go straight to LATAM or SEA, it sucks compared to europe but they wont send you back.

And nope, NATO won’t do shit. If the choice comes down to mushroom clouds over Berlin and Brussels

The only mushroom clouds that matter are those over london and paris. If any other western capital gets hit there's gonna be a lot of cold feet since responding means nuclear suicide. This problem was already debated during the cold war and was one of the reasons west germany almost didn't get into nato.

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

When the USD and all it's associated currencies aren't worth the paper they're printed from, working seasonal jobs in Russia will put you way far ahead of almost everyone else in the West. It'll be the new "work for a Western tech company while living in Asia"

Yeah keep me posted on when that happens.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Can't help but noticing the official EU pro-Ukraine videos are not even 3 minutes long. But the pro-EU news programs and anti-Brexit YouTube are hyping up the public to be okay with an EU army.

 

[Happy Camper]

Some early morning mapping. Seems like it's business as usual still. MSC notes that western press is starting to talk more and more about peace and an end to the conflict again which can only mean that they've given up on the Kursk nuclear gambit achieving any revolutionary success.

Can't help but noticing the official EU pro-Ukraine videos are not even 3 minutes long. But the pro-EU news programs and anti-Brexit YouTube are hyping up the public to be okay with an EU army.

Could be tied to the US elections too. Last time I remember there being a big push for that was when they were angry about Trump if I remember correctly. It went away with Biden in office and bloc unity was demanded throughout most of the war so it's nonetheless interesting to see these stories get put out by these government mouthpieces much like the above mention about peace being talked about more in the media.

 

[cybertoaster]

Apparently CNN has blown the whistle on the disastrous state of the жожол army.

Most of a battalion of 800 just walked off. Fuck me!

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19.000 cases of desertion in four months. And that’s likely an undercount. Fuck me.

From what I’ve been reading, there are plenty of issues with armed men in Ukrainian cities robbing, getting into fights and occasional shootouts.

Afghanistan is probably the future for what remains of Ukraine after Russian annexes what it wants/needs.

Just read the actual article.............well if you're ukrainian I can't imagine how demoralizing it must be to see cnn, of all propaganda outlets, being unable to keep lying about the situation.

Its way worse than I expected, at this point I don't know it they'll make it to 2025, and JFC that story about an entire family wiped out by a missile, fucking grim...

 

[VargReallyDidNothingWrong]

Just read the actual article.............well if you're ukrainian I can't imagine how demoralizing it must be to see cnn, of all propaganda outlets, being unable to keep lying about the situation.

Its way worse than I expected, at this point I don't know it they'll make it to 2025, and JFC that story about an entire family wiped out by a missile, fucking grim...

Archive it and link it, please

 

[cybertoaster]

Archive it and link it, please

Here: https://archive.is/mXFfW

 

[Happy Camper]

Here: https://archive.is/mXFfW

That article's absolutely savage as far as western reporting goes.

Two and half years of Russia’s grinding offensive have decimated many Ukrainian units. Reinforcements are few and far between, leaving some soldiers exhausted and demoralized.

CNN spoke to six commanders and officers who are or were until recently fighting or supervising units in the area. All six said desertion and insubordination are becoming a widespread problem, especially among newly recruited soldiers.

prosecutors launched criminal proceedings against almost 19,000 soldiers who either abandoned their posts or deserted, according to the Ukrainian parliament. [...] It’s a staggering and – most likely – incomplete number.

Ukrainian soldiers in the area paint a grim picture of the situation. Kyiv’s forces are clearly outnumbered and outgunned, with some commanders estimating there are 10 Russian soldiers to each Ukrainian.

The battalion suffered painful losses in the past year, fighting on multiple front lines before being sent to Pokrovsk without any rest. Dima saw so many of his men killed and wounded, he became numb. “I’ve now made the decision that I will stop getting attached to people emotionally. It’s a rotten approach, but it’s the most sensible one,” he said.

They can't even put on an uniformly positive spin on the Kursk offensive outside of broadly claiming that it "boosted morale". For who? The soldiers in Donetsk having all their supplies and reinforcements rerouted to sit in open fields in rural Russia waiting to get picked off by air strikes? Even the sapper they interview timidly insinuates that he's bewildered by the thing.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Could be tied to the US elections too. Last time I remember there being a big push for that was when they were angry about Trump if I remember correctly.

Germany and especially France were pushing for an EU army when Bill Clinton and George W. Bush were presidents. But the talks of an EU army stopped under Obama. During the 90s it was predicted the European Union would’ve surpassed the United states as a superpower in 2015. You see video games in the 2000s and doctor who rolling with EU superpower and military at the time.

 

[cybertoaster]

broadly claiming that it "boosted morale". For who?

There's the undeniable effect of "look we can invade too" that works with the masses but the real boost must've been the possibility even if remote that with kursk they could enter negotiations in better terms, but as they're getting bogged down there I say its unlikely.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

There's the undeniable effect of "look we can invade too" that works with the masses but the real boost must've been the possibility even if remote that with kursk they could enter negotiations in better terms, but as they're getting bogged down there I say its unlikely.

It seems like an attempt to do a Tet Offensive against Russia...disregarding the Tet Offensive failed...disregarding that Russia is not the 1960s United States...disregarding common sense in general.

What an incredibly stupid operation. For all the good it did them, they might as well have just zerg rushed Crimea like the US wants so Uncle Sam can open a nice big base as God (the State Department) intended.

 

[The giant penis of doom]

If I was one of them I would go straight to LATAM or SEA, it sucks compared to europe but they wont send you back.

Hey, if you are a so called "skilled worker", life can be great there. You can work remote, and enjoy the local general cheapness. You can live in an actual hotel in Vietnam for a month for like 2 million dongs.
Of course if you compare the gibs situation, yeah, but lets assume most of these people don't want to parasite. They are not kikes afterall!

During the 90s it was predicted the European Union would’ve surpassed the United states as a superpower in 2015.

From an American, ignorant, anti-nationalist point of view that's entirely reasonable. Similar population with better innerconnectedness (when it comes to transportation), similar access to ports, Suez > Panama, Russian resources close by. It makes sense, if you ignore that Europe is not a country, and for it to become one, it would have to basically be destroyed and remade.

You see video games in the 2000s and doctor who rolling with EU superpower and military at the time.

I liked the depiction of Dreamfall Chapters, from 2014. A bit more realistic, small state-like entities in various states of shitholery.

 

[The Foxtrot]

Putin just signed a decree that provides any Westerner with residency and a route to citizenship if they’re tired of Globohomo neoliberal bullshit.

You son of a bitch, I'm in, where do I sign up?

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

And they will have favored status over you

not that I'm advocating for the "work for russia/china" but at least it issue you highlight makes sense in this scenario since the chinese/russians are the natives and you're the immigrant worker. At home in the west the *illegal* immigrant is favored over you in terms of jobs, housing, law, etc.

 

[Fapcop]

You son of a bitch, I'm in, where do I sign up?

As I recall you have to write a letter to your local Russian consulate.

https://tass.com/politics/1831019

Free land as well!


It’s a little easier than the previous shortcut!

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Militarily surrounded though? That’s an entirely different issue. None of the NATO countries could do a whole lot in an armed conflict with Russia.

We all know it means the US and their toys, and we do have that foederati thing going. The only thing holding everyone back is this time it'd be a world war with nukes.

Free land as well!

I could see this as attractive to folks of a particular religion, like Mennonites or Amish, that shy away from challenging host governments for concessions and have a talent for farming/animal husbandry. The typical American isn't the frontier type anymore, and the free land in the Far East is pretty close to frontier.


A bit dated but gives you an idea what this would be like and to be honest it could really pay off for Russia, like it did for the US a couple of hundred years ago,. It would be almost as harsh as a settler life on the prairie was but the potential gain, for everyone, is enormous.

 

[Male Idiot]

Amish

Amish Siberia sounds like a good sequel to the Finnish-Korean Hyperwar.

But to any aspiring vodka enthusiast, this does sound like a frontier life. Just make sure you are comfortable with that. Ted Kazinsky would have loved it.