US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Back me up!]

Kamala was always going to be fighting an uphill battle with black votes. There's not really a way to spin her identity to make her appealing to black men. With black women, all she has is the increasingly cracking front she puts on and those cracks grow every time she opens her mouth.

The only people she seems to have any appeal with are liberal white women and they will vote for pretty much anything so long as its endorsed by the mainstream.

Counter point: Black voters are the most cucked group and will always, ALWAYS vote for D. Even if they don't vote? Well don't worry some one will fill out the voting form for them!

 

[Nate Scully 025]

Wish I had enough cash in the bank to actually get something beyond my normal dinner for the debate, thanks for that by the way Biden, though I’m probably going to be doing more checking the thread than anything else. My most reasonable hope for the debate, beyond Kamala eating shit and looking like an absolute buffoon, is that Trump manages to finally drive the death knell into his connection to Project 2025. There’s some people who will no doubt still associate him with it regardless, but the more public his denial is, the less effective 2025 is as a weapon against him.

 

[Train Operator]

so do we think this is gonna be another democrat disaster like the 1st debate with Biden or will it be a regular boring debate?

 

[Bland Crumbs]

I think I'll just wait for a highlight reel, depends on how today goes for me. Maybe skim the debate thread.

If I happen to sit down to watch it, I plan to bounce the moment Kamala chuckles nervously because that alone makes her look incompetent on top of retarded. I don't even remember Hillary chuckling during her debates—smirking, sure, but no actual laughing that I can recall.

Same. I would rather give a content creator I like such as Don'tWalkRun a view and like than ABC or Fox ratings.

 

[Nuns with guns]

I simply want him to be held accountable. He should come out and be honest. “I’m dropping out because Trump offered me a position.” Fine. However he didn’t officially end his bid. He just wants those in battleground states to not vote for him and has said those in settled states should go out and support him. It’s a sham and it should be challenged as such. You cannot have it both ways. I don’t think Biden should’ve been allowed to drop out unless it was due to a medical issue, and if they went that route he should’ve been made to resign immediately. If you are incapable of doing the job then you are incapable. RFK isn’t incapable.

Not anymore. RFK fully endorses Trump for free speech.

 

[Back me up!]

so do we think this is gonna be another democrat disaster like the 1st debate with Biden or will it be a regular boring debate?

Its probably going to be boring. Harris is going to complete ignore Trump and try to do her stump speeches over every question. It will get hilarious if Trump is able to completely through her off her game and/or Harris's Handler mess up the ratio of booze/molly to keep her loose.

 

[teriyakiburns]

"Are you his daughter?"
"... No, I'm not."

There is definitely a sex tape with these two out there. It's inevitable.

 

[Necrosan]

Even there she's been slipping. It's nuts.

She came right at the peak of nigger, faggot and diversity fatigue. Sometimes it feels like she was just handed a broken car and was pretty told "If you get there, you get there but we are not expecting much".

so do we think this is gonna be another democrat disaster like the 1st debate with Biden or will it be a regular boring debate?

I'm not expecting much but I'm welcoming any surprises. At worst, she'll just bring up J6 again and spit out all her campaign slogans at once.

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

so do we think this is gonna be another democrat disaster like the 1st debate with Biden or will it be a regular boring debate?

I think it will be a contest of nerves. If both of them keep cool, it'll be boring and the pundits will spend the next two months picking apart pixels like some schizos looking for shapeshifting reptilians. If one of them cracks, that's it.

My hope is that Trump will be a good boy and Kamala will look like a legless retard.

 

[big pauper]

It's aimed at boomers and neocons who think Bush wasn't really bad. Trump had good support with older white voters, it eroded with Covid a bit, and the Dems are hoping to erode it further now.

I don't know why everyone think Cheney's endorsement hurts the Democrats just because he's their boogeyman. This is the party that has turned hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance into regular pastimes. They think it's a wonderful GOTCHA against the enemy, the only kind of argumentation they still do.

If you accused them of approving of Cheney's actual positions, they'll pull the same bullshit they pull with trannies. "Oh no, I don't support that policy, that's someone else. That's some extremist who just happens to be on my side. It says nothing about me or my policies. I'm one of the sane ones. Don't blame me for something an ally does."

this might have worked 5 years ago but it isn't going to work now. even the dumbest and most brainwashed idiots that only repeat what they read on twitter are having a tough time justifying their own position against the constant whiplash that is expected of them from the press and political leadership.

unfortunately for the powers that be, the brainwashing machinery has been completely non-functional since covid - they've been desperate for controllable responses from the general public that are not happening. the thing they need to manipulate people is the thing they're actively fighting against in the hopes of controlling the narrative, but it means they don't have enough energy or manpower to create a narrative like they did with hillary. i think they ran out of smoke for their smoke machine and the only strategy left is to suck all their air out of the room

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Wish I had enough cash in the bank to actually get something beyond my normal dinner for the debate, thanks for that by the way Biden, though I’m probably going to be doing more checking the thread than anything else. My most reasonable hope for the debate, beyond Kamala eating shit and looking like an absolute buffoon, is that Trump manages to finally drive the death knell into his connection to Project 2025. There’s some people who will no doubt still associate him with it regardless, but the more public his denial is, the less effective 2025 is as a weapon against him.

I have a week old steak in my fridge. Not sure if I should just eat that over KFC.

 

[Irregardless]

Where did I say people should be kept off? I’m not the one making that argument. If there is someone showing a legitimate campaign get them on the ballot. RFK ran a completely legitimate campaign up until an article came out saying trump was think about making him head of the FBI.

Yes he did, and he gets my respect for trying to be a part of the process and not falling in line with the Democrats when it became obvious they weren't gunna let him play ball.

It’s not throwing away a vote though. That’s just the shittiest thing you can say to someone. Regardless of how you use it you are using it. Using that argument is just attempting to force someone to change their vote to suit you. It is your vote and your vote alone. You should not be pushed to change it because it’s “wasted” on someone.

I’m informed on the issues. That’s why I pick the person I choose to vote for. Interestingly there are things I disagree with RFK on but overall I felt he was a decent candidate with polices I could agree on, and some that I didn’t. But if you’ve found someone you agree with in every single way you might be dense. I will continue to advocate for people to seek alternatives and will not care if I get pushback. In 2016 I was called a Nazi for voting 3rd party, that I wasn’t voting in my best interest, and that I should think about others before “wasting” my vote. That translated to people calling me a Nazi for wanting options, that I don’t know what my own interests are, and that *my* voice doesn’t matter compared to others.

RFK has chosen to be a politician. That means he is a representative of the people and should be working as hard as he can to represent them. What happens to his donors? To the people that have been pushing his name? I want these people held accountable to do the job they said they were going to do. RFK said he was in this as an alternative: and so he should be.

I'm sorry, but it is throwing away your vote. I get that we want politicians to be representatives for the people, and that RFK had a lot of good reasonable positions, but at the end of the day, America is a 2 party system where, in my opinion at least, you are voting for the lessor of 2 evils. RFK did the right thing by conceeding and joining Trump, as there are a lot of people who would rather vote with their heart for RFK when they otherwise would have voted Trump as an alternative. The good part though is that RFK showed that he has integrity and that he wants to make change, so him being brought into the Trump camp means he actually has a shot at getting something done, where as if he just dropped out he'd get nothing done, and being against the mainstream Democrats is a death sentence to your political career on their side.

Kamala was always going to be fighting an uphill battle with black votes. There's not really a way to spin her identity to make her appealing to black men. With black women, all she has is the increasingly cracking front she puts on and those cracks grow every time she opens her mouth.

I wanna say the overt not giving a fuck and pumping migrants into their neighborhoods would change things, but if you listen to blacks long enough you realize that they don't actually see it as Biden/Kamala's or the Democrats fault, they see it as "current politician in charge" fault and what they're really demanding is a different Democrat who will go back to giving them free shit. Their views are very one dimensional, but normally have the core belief that whoever they vote for needs to be a Democrat.

The only people she seems to have any appeal with are liberal white women and they will vote for pretty much anything so long as its endorsed by the mainstream.

This is actually why I'm worried about Kamala pulling out a win. White women are a huge voting block, and in contrast to my previous statement, they actually do appear to be turning out solely based on propaganda and vibes. The most annoying thing is that all of those videos of white women bitching about the economy being shit, the job market being shit, their college degree being a sham, they're all going to be voting for Kamala regardless. There's a video I saw recently of this exact thing, a woman was interviewed by a news station about her thoughts on Joe Biden being re-elected and she basically said "Yea I'm living paycheck to paycheck, things are bad, I just don't think I could do it" and they followed up with her a month later after Kamala had been swapped in and asked her what her thoughts were now, and I shit you not the dumb bitch goes "Yea I'm still living paycheck to paycheck, but honestly, I'm excited about Kamala, I think it's time for a change and I think she can do it". Delusional insanity.

 

[Wargarbl]

so do we think this is gonna be another democrat disaster like the 1st debate with Biden or will it be a regular boring debate?

We know it won't be like the Biden debate, because she won't spend 90% of it staring mouth agape into an invisible abyss, looking like death has its cold grip on her shoulder.

However, if she gets a little flustered and reverts to word salading in circles, it could be a pretty funny slow motion trainwreck.

I don't love this match-up for Trump though. People fucking hated Hillary, even the Dems that planned to vote for her were rolling their eyes and doing it out of party obligation. So most people had no problem with Trump shitting on her. Or Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and the rest of the limp dicked GOP faggots he crushed in 2016.

Most non-political normies barely know who Kamala is, and the DNC has done their best to this point to keep it that way. If she can avoid coming off like a complete retard, its probably a win for her. Especially if Trump can't hold back on his douchier tendancies that make normies cringe. They don't have enough built-up spite for her to make it work (even though that retarded beige bitch deserves every bit of scorn directed her way).

 

[Meat Target]

so do we think this is gonna be another democrat disaster like the 1st debate with Biden or will it be a regular boring debate?

Most non-political normies barely know who Kamala is, and the DNC has done their best to this point to keep it that way. If she can avoid coming off like a complete retard, its probably a win for her. Especially if Trump can't hold back on his douchier tendancies that make normies cringe. They don't have enough built-up spite for her to make it work (even though that retarded beige bitch deserves every bit of scorn directed her way).

The only time I see Trump freak out like libs claim he does is on Truth Social. In public appearances, he is much calmer, even when it's something serious like his conviction.

He's been holding press interviews regularly while Harris avoids all contact. He has plenty of practice with hostile reporters. Kamala has about as much grace under pressure as a house of cards.

They're gonna try to orchestrate it so Kamala can get in her "I'm speaking" one-liner that they'll soyface and gush about. But given that everything about this Potemkin regime crumbles when subjected to a stiff breeze of scrutiny, I doubt they'll get one that sticks.

 

[big pauper]

the "third parties arent real" meme would work a lot better if there weren't third parties that win positions of office - usually because people are fed up with one of the two parties and clearly do not belong in the other. im not talking about ross perot im talking about how there's practically always 3-4 seats in congress that are independents and there's been independent governors every so often. its not even unusual, its just not as popular as it should be.

if every single person that spend their effort convincing other people that the two party system is unstoppable then we would have third party candidates

 

[CaddestSlown]

One of the biggest revelations for me by James Okeefe is how much of a security risk gay men are. They can't keep a secret at all.

There is a reason up until 10 years ago being a fag was considered a security risk and a reason to deny military and government clearances.

They are slaves to their sexual degeneracy.

Dangle a dick in front of them and they drool, slobber, and sing like canaries.

Depends on the gay. On one hand, the propensity for gay men loving gossip is in par with stereotypes of women and is probably a memetic installation via cycles of depictions in media and general observed, associated behavior. On the other hand, there's gay men who keep tight lipped (lmao) about secrets like anyone else can, avoiding showing their power levels too much or keeping it on par with everyone else. I personally feel like oversharing and sharing everything about your life is just a modern expectation pushed by... very unwell people.

Gossip is fine. Fun even. And at times, extremely productive and interesting. This website exists because of gossip. Sharing damning secrets though... It should not be something that should be done so willingly and without scrutiny, especially in situations like dates or casual gatherings with people not directly involved with those secrets. People will of course do it anyway, it's why we have lolcows.

I will never disagree there's an extremely prevalent promiscuity problem, I'd need to do the looking into it for the statistics, but I'm positive it's another instance of a memetic, learned behavior. There's just spoken and displayed expectation that you HAVE to be hypersexed and irrationally cock addicted to be in the club. Selling out to engage in that promiscuity is a factor when porn sick and brainwashed dudes are given the chance.

That being said, put a pretty enough face in front of anyone desperate for either sex or love and words will flow. The discussions about the extreme effectiveness of lady spies prying the secrets from men has been mentioned here, and I stick by saying a token gay man, as fruitless as possible preferred, is one of the only situations where that sort of thing has any functional value. ...Unless like, someone has venom in their balls or something. Get a misogynist homosexual and the gatekeeping will be strong.

hitler looked like he was dumpy and smelled bad

Anyone who wants to have sex with Hitler based on his physical attributes and his physical attributes alone needs their head checked. Anyone who wants to have sex with him because of his philosophies and actions as a person is probably posting on the Kiwi Farms. Honk honk!

 

[draggs]

They're gonna try to orchestrate it so Kamala can get in her "I'm speaking" one-liner that they'll soyface and gush about.

Trump already assiduously adhered to the rules in the deboot with Joe to prevent any moments that could be clipped like that

All he has to do is repeat. Talk when it's his turn, keep his mouth shut when it isn't. He showed with Joe he can still get his zingers in with that format. I think he's more than up to the task

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

as for plans for tonight, dunno, might catch it while doing chores and nerding it up here, might hang out with the wife watching it or something else, might hang out with online nerd buddies watching other stuff

 

[Sweeter and Savoury]

I too don't think the debate will be that interesting to watch.

It will be more Trump vs the moderators then Trump vs Harris.

Harris will say her stump speech things, she wont talk about policy cuz she has none. The jannys will help her out as much as possible. I think Harris will be predictably bland and boring, no big gaffes, no big oopsie moments. anytime she's pressed hard she will just retreat into her word salad defense. You can't call her out on what she said if she didn't actually say anything right?

All she will do is try to bait Trump into saying gotchas for the media to use tomorrow in the headlines and one "I'm speaking" sassy black girl moment for the darkies.

Still going to watch but I'm not expecting fireworks like last time. Biden having a mental breakdown is a once in a lifetime event and really skewed expectations.

Now if Trump does get Harris's goat and she either gets angry or cries, well then I'll raise a toast to our shitposter in chief.

 

[Johnny Dipp]

I am a relative newbie to stocks but over the past 2 days people seem to have been buying DJT in anticipation of a Trump win