NATO invasion won’t be met with soldiers, it will be met with nukes. At that point none of this matters, neither Russia nor the west will remain as coherent societies. It’ll be my neighbourhood vs. the neighbourhood on the other side of the intersection, and then the winning neighbourhood vs. the farmers.
Hard to see how Russian missiles hitting Paris, Berlin, London and DC wouldn't be a justified response to this. These people are sick in the head.
If any nation is poised to survive with even a smidgen of its culture and history intact, it's Russia, and no one else. When the nukes are in the air I'm going to lower Manhattan and wait for their arrival becasue we don't even have the shitty bunkers we had in the 1950s-60s because fuckwad Bill Clinton had them decommissioned in the 1990s.
That's probably for the best tbh, because any bunker would turn into a nigger Thunderdome. I've read stories about the stadium in New Orleans after Katrina and this would be a thousand times worse. Probably better to die watching the fireworks than end up in one of those places.
A lot of people has their own back in the day. They became game rooms for us kids when I was growing up thanks to detente.
OK Shlomo, when are we getting open borders for Israel?
This is the same argument as made by Globohomo. 'Without immigrants out countries won't survive!' they cry, as they import foreigners to hasten the death of the native populace. Inviting people to replace you is the opposite of survival, it is suicide.
I'm not referring to economic migration, I'm referring to people who are opposed to the very people that push replacement immigration. When the war is over I would expect those people to return to their homes and rebuild, if it isn't a radioactive wasteland. Even then there would be areas they could go back to that can sustain life.
Now you sound like Amerikanski. 'Sometimes you must destroy
Well. I am American; I was born and raised in the United States, so I can't not sound like an American. Nor do I want to, because it's who I am.
I really don't know how you came to this conclusion when all I said is Americans who are opposed to their government's reckless actions should go to Russia and stand with her, not to be feted and cossetted as some kind of saviors of, well idk what since I have no idea what you're on about. I can see why resistance is hard for most bongs to understand though you should keep in mind the US is literally a nation founded by men and women who rebelled against Bongland, and won.
Yes. That's kind of the point that's being made.
You have a curious use of the term "exact" because I don't get this analogy and I could list out a tonne of difference between current American situation and life under the Third Reich. (Especially if you're Jewish!)
Go ahead and say it. I don't really see that changes anything about me saying you're not Russian just because I'm not either. (Nor, though I have great admiration for Russian people and culture, do I want to be. I'm proud of much of British culture and try to preserve it).
That's a very unexpected extrapolation from me saying people shouldn't flee their countries if they can fight to save them. I'm not quite sure of the logical leap. Or the relevance really, though if you really want to know I consider the bombing of Dresden a war crime and fairly sure you could find a post from me on the Farms somewhere saying that. But again, I don't see the connection.
Some of those "dregs" are my friends and very fine people as it happens. But again, not seeing the relevance except to say that I'm not fleeing my country to one I (imagine) would be better. I'm proud of my culture and trying to preserve it and do what I can to reign in my government. So not seeing any hypocrisy on my part in saying that others should, too.
But I'm not comparing Americans who oppose their government to Haitian immigrants. I'm comparing Americans who flee their country to one they perceive to be better to those non-Americans who flee their country to one they perceive to be better. The point of comparison is rather clear, I feel.
Forgive me, I possibly got the bit about being regarded as saviours from the bit where you said Russia's "very survival depended" on welcoming such immigrants from America et al. Your words!
Again, you either missed what I posted or you're being deliberately obtuse. I know the urge to speak politely and submit to authority is very deeply ingrained in most bongs but it's not in the vast majority of Americans.
My condolences but I suggest getting friends who don't stab little girls to death.
russia knows how to not fuck up their country permanently, it seems.
You mean "conservatives" like the twice voted for Obama Ethan Oliver Ralph?
Fixed that for you.
The really ironic thing with @Pampered Degenerate reply is that Israel actually takes plenty of guest workers. From Thailand and lately India. All on temporary basis.
What the Duma wants to ban, is labor migrants from Tajikistan etc, bringing their families and effectively creating ethnic ghettoes in Russia.
Israel does have essentially open borders if you're jewish. They also employ a legion of foreign workers from India (who doesn't these days?). Until October 7th they were also heavily reliant on the Palestinians for cheap labor.
The difference is that places like the UK and Canada don't make their own shit and have no intention of starting. They're literally mass importing people with the specific goals of making their own citizens poorer and making themselves richer. But Russia is a country under siege and it really does need people. You need Russians to join the war economy while immigrants do the grunt work as much as possible. Even Nazi Germany (perhaps the most ruthlessly ethnocentric country in history) recognized this necessity during ww2. Ideally those immigrants would be Vietnamese or Burmese or something and not Afghans though-Russia does multiculturalism better than the euros (famously more british muslims joined isis than the british army) but that isn't saying much.
Yes to all of this. It's such hard work that if we're talking actual homesteading in undeveloped land you really need to be a modest group to be confident about this. So get together a group of twenty like-minded people. And I don't mean a few guys plus family. I mean a group where everybody is able to contribute and add on kids to that figure, not include.
Making you, for all intents and purposes, no different from the NAFO dog people who are also foreigners cheering on one side in this war.
The amerimutts wanted the entire planet after WW2, but the Soviets wouldn't accept the role of junior partner in that deal. Similarly, Russia didn't disintegrate like it was supposed to at the end of the USSR, cucking amerilards out of total control of the planet for the second time.
