Debate watch! - Fuck yeah!

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who won?????

  • big T

    Votes: 902 46.8%
  • little T

    Votes: 200 10.4%
  • tie

    Votes: 352 18.3%
  • indian woman

    Votes: 248 12.9%
  • Black woman

    Votes: 224 11.6%

  • Total voters
    1,926
Enough with the blackpilling, Mr. Trump just got an endorsement from the president himself :smug:
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Are you trying to imply that Dick Cheney of all people is a leftist or a democrat? The point of his endorsement is that the Republican party has moved so far right due to Trump that it's unrecognizable, even to him, DICK CHENEY of all people.
Literally yes. He is the poster child for neo-conservatism which is a sub-ideology of liberalism and Trotskite foreign policy . You know the good old way of determining left and right? Look at the french parliament during the beginning of the french revolution. Would he be on the left supporting revolution and democracy? Or would he be in the right supporting the monarchy?

If you think Trump's tiny wiggle to the right from neo-conservatism/libertarianism hybrid to paleo-conservatism/civic nationalism is "so far to the right", then you are going to lose your monkey mind when you learn other countries still have monarchist and theocratic parties.
 
All things considered, I don’t actually think Trump did as poorly as others have been saying. Because he had both moderators and Kamala asking loaded questions and making false claims, I don’t think he reacted in a way that was uncharacteristic of him. Really, he was honestly too nice about it, but he may have just wanted to come across as more calm and collected compared to Kamala (which isn’t a bad strategy). Kamala really was just reading off a script and may as well have been just repeating MSNBC headlines as “owns.” Yes, Trump could have discussed policy more, but he did get quite a bit of policy talk in his rebuttals (such as his stances on Israel and Russia). Kamala really had everything in her favor and still came across as weaker, as she couldn’t really explain any of her points, she only gave vague platitudes. Honestly, Kamala speaking even less would have given her more of an advantage, as every time she did try to explain something, it was all surface level. It would also have given Trump more of a chance to mess up. This debate was Kamala’s to lose, given the moderators doing a lot of the heavy lifting for her, and she still was below expectations.
 
"Just to clarify Kamala, have you ever met Putin?"
"I met with Zelinski 5 times..."
*moderator never follows up*

eat my fuckin' ass ABC. You held Trump's toes to the fire on all sorts of other shit in the same event, and let her get away with not answering.

Biden mixed up Putin and Zelinski too. I put it down to dementia but maybe it's just a democrat thing.
 
Anybody who donates to ActBlue (and Nikki Haley) is a brainrotted TDS leftist.
It's so funny how this guy's singular action as a 17 year old somehow matters more than the actions he took at ages 18, 19, and 20 to you TES weirdos.
Also
>Nikki Haley
>leftist

LOL
Why does Crooks matter to you anyway? You swallow so much bullshit and MSM cope that you probably should be focused on how he was hired by Trump to stage his assassination by shooting a paint capsule on his ear. It was da Drumpfenfuhrer's Reichstag fire!
LOL maybe that's because I'm focused on the actual facts of the case instead of making up conspiracy theories in my head and desperately trying to assert them as fact like you are. Thomas Matthew Crooks, a Republican shot Donald Trump, a Republican. The only bit of uncertainty the media had 2 months ago was whether or not the bullet hit him or shrapnel.

You faggots tried to pin him as a hyper-leftist day one, and when the facts came out that he was, in fact, a Republican who registered and voted in the 2022 midterms, your addled brains couldn't accept that reality and instead keep pretending like this dumb kid from rural bumfuck nowhere Pennsylvania was a 46D chess playing democratic grandmaster plotting to destroy the Republican party within by voting for a candidate he never voted for (Nikki Haley) in a primary he never voted in (2024).

You can be a Republican and not have a slavelike devotion to Donald Trump. The rot in the right wing is so deep these days that being a fanatical Trump sycophant is basically a requirement to call yourself conservative.
 
By kicking the illegals out. Fewer illegals = less competition/demand for housing = lower rent and home prices
You do know that non-citizens are 100% able to buy homes right? Kicking illegals out does nothing in this regards. Also illegals tend to live in tenement style homes (which are bad for different reasons). Not everything can be boiled down to "muh illegals",
 
Pick one.
Retard I can pick both and still be correct. Illegals are bad for many reasons, but they do not cause the prices of homes to go up. And by the way, you can be in this country LEGALLY and still buy homes. Not everyone in this country without a US citizenship is here illegally. If I were say a Serbian Citizen with enough cash, I could fly to the USA, buy a house and then rent it out as a form of investment. The Russians used to do this in NYC with fancy apartments, and the Chinese do this exact shit in Canada. 15 illegal families crammed into a single home doesn't make the average cost of a house skyrocket.
 
You do know that non-citizens are 100% able to buy homes right?
non-citizens and illegals are not the same thing. Also, nobody is buying housing in a foreign country they do not live in.
Kicking illegals out does nothing in this regards. Also illegals tend to live in tenement style homes (which are bad for different reasons).
Source?
Not everything can be boiled down to "muh illegals",
But this can be. Illegals primarily rent, which jacks up rent prices for everyone. This encourages US companies to purchase homes and then rent them out for profit. The mass purchase of homes by corporations increases the price of houses.

Deporting the illegals drops the demand for places to rent. This in turn causes rents to decrease. Lower rents = lower profits for corporations renting homes. This lowers demand for corporations buying homes to rent out. Which in turn creates less demand for homes, which lowers home prices.
 
non-citizens and illegals are not the same thing.
I know, however BUYING property requires paperwork which illegals tend not to have and also creates exposure which your average illegal does not want to risk

Here is an example of what rich Russians were doing in NYC before the Ukraine-Russia War. I bet you these Oligarchs aren't running around with US passports.



Also, nobody is buying housing in a foreign country they do not live in.

Source?

^here is one such example. This stuff tends to be local in nature. For example, what makes this extra illegal is that in NYC basement apartments are very rare (as they tend to be quite dangerous) because NYC building code states that an apartment should have two modes of entry/exit, this includes a window.


But this can be. Illegals primarily rent, which jacks up rent prices for everyone.
Not disagreeing at all but I was talking about ownership not renting

This encourages US companies to purchase homes and then rent them out for profit.

Which is something that a "Populus" candidate like Trump should be against. Or even the Dems if they had any values left.

The mass purchase of homes by corporations increases the price of houses.

Deporting the illegals drops the demand for places to rent. This in turn causes rents to decrease. Lower rents = lower profits for corporations renting homes. This lowers demand for corporations buying homes to rent out. Which in turn creates less demand for homes, which lowers home prices.
Illegals don't rent from corporations, it gives the corporations too much risk, instead they tend to rent from "private" landlords or sublet from legal citizens.



I know this is all very complicated for you but try to keep up.
It's really not; just not everything is "muh illegals"
 

Motherfucker wasn't the one that started with out with assertions nigger, you were.

By kicking the illegals out. Fewer illegals = less competition/demand for housing = lower rent and home prices

Dumbass reddit response to go out and tell someone else to prove a negative assertion to your own prior assertion with a source.
 
lol they were never intellectual. Even with Thomas Jefferson they were calling each other pussys and trannys, it’s always been a clown show
They were certainly more intellectual than this bullshit we have now. At this point nobody even answers the questions. Kamala literally wouldn't even answer the very first question, she just totally changed the topic and started a self-promotion campaign about how she grew up middle class. Fuckin weird.
 
Motherfucker wasn't the one that started with out with assertions nigger, you were.
There are 50 states in the US, and 45+ of them do not have tenement housing. That is a 19th century NY thing. I asked for a source because the claim is obviously false.
Dumbass reddit response to go out and tell someone else to prove a negative assertion to your own prior assertion with a source.
See above and then continue seething because I'm right.
 
It's so funny how this guy's singular action as a 17 year old somehow matters more than the actions he took at ages 18, 19, and 20 to you TES weirdos.
Also
>Nikki Haley
>leftist

LOL

LOL maybe that's because I'm focused on the actual facts of the case instead of making up conspiracy theories in my head and desperately trying to assert them as fact like you are. Thomas Matthew Crooks, a Republican shot Donald Trump, a Republican. The only bit of uncertainty the media had 2 months ago was whether or not the bullet hit him or shrapnel.

You faggots tried to pin him as a hyper-leftist day one, and when the facts came out that he was, in fact, a Republican who registered and voted in the 2022 midterms, your addled brains couldn't accept that reality and instead keep pretending like this dumb kid from rural bumfuck nowhere Pennsylvania was a 46D chess playing democratic grandmaster plotting to destroy the Republican party within by voting for a candidate he never voted for (Nikki Haley) in a primary he never voted in (2024).

You can be a Republican and not have a slavelike devotion to Donald Trump. The rot in the right wing is so deep these days that being a fanatical Trump sycophant is basically a requirement to call yourself conservative.
Didn't some people report that Crooks had accounts online posting far-right material or am I mistaken?
 
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It's so funny how this guy's singular action as a 17 year old somehow matters more than the actions he took at ages 18, 19, and 20 to you TES weirdos.
Also
>Nikki Haley
>leftist

LOL

LOL maybe that's because I'm focused on the actual facts of the case instead of making up conspiracy theories in my head and desperately trying to assert them as fact like you are. Thomas Matthew Crooks, a Republican shot Donald Trump, a Republican. The only bit of uncertainty the media had 2 months ago was whether or not the bullet hit him or shrapnel.

You faggots tried to pin him as a hyper-leftist day one, and when the facts came out that he was, in fact, a Republican who registered and voted in the 2022 midterms, your addled brains couldn't accept that reality and instead keep pretending like this dumb kid from rural bumfuck nowhere Pennsylvania was a 46D chess playing democratic grandmaster plotting to destroy the Republican party within by voting for a candidate he never voted for (Nikki Haley) in a primary he never voted in (2024).

You can be a Republican and not have a slavelike devotion to Donald Trump. The rot in the right wing is so deep these days that being a fanatical Trump sycophant is basically a requirement to call yourself conservative.
You don't really know much about the American politicial system do you? There is literally no downside in being a registered republican in the context.
https://www.westmorelandcountypa.gov/2830/About-Primary-Elections-in-PA
To vote in primaries in PA you have to register with that party.
Biden was basically running unopposed as the DNC blocked opposition cantidates and outright canceled some primaries. The RNC however were running primaries in which a cantidate we can assume he disliked(as he shot him) was running.

But here lets go through the options and looking at what evidence you have tell me what is the best fit.
1. He registered republican to vote against Trump and when that didn't assuage him he tried to kill him because he thought he was a threat to democracy.
2. He registered republican to vote for Trump and when he felt that wasn't enough he tried to kill him because he thought Trump would save democracy.
3. He registered republican to vote against Trump and when he felt that wasn't enough he tried to kill him because he thought Trump wasn't hardcore enough.
These are the only options you have with your evidence, and with the actblue donation option 1 seems the most likely. You act like him being a republican is some get out of jail free card. It would be like saying "There was no Marxist influence in universities during the cold war because they were all Americans!" as if just because someone is American they can't act in the interests of the Soviet Union, or if someone is registered as a republican they can't be a RINO and act in the interest of the progressive movement.
 
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