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[thediad]

My analysis of the debate:

Trump needed to decidedly annihilate her, but that unfortunately did not happen until his closing statements. The moderators turned the ENTIRE debate into "Orange Man Bad" and put Trump on the defense for the majority of the debate, and I also believe that Trump took Harris' bait a couple of times when he shouldn't have.

Kamala needed to give a reason for people to vote FOR her and not just against Trump. She failed spectacularly at that, and while the moderators helped her dictate what the debate was about, they also hurt her because she did nothing to talk about why she's so great.

Boggles my mind that the Dems keep pushing "Orange Man Bad" when it's beyond diminishing returns. Anyone who doesn't have TDS can see she's a weak leader who offers nothing.

Trump getting her with "I'm speaking, remember that?" And the smugness draining from her face will keep me warm during the upcoming nuclear winter if they manage to install her despite her being as popular as arse itch.

 

[Ukraine is Big Gay]

Funny thing is, American laws changed recently to prevent cheaper, more fuel efficient vehicles from being made OR being imported.

Why? Because CA leads and the automobile industry follows.

There's some vehicles out there that would pass all US inspections and run about $15K, but they won't pass CALIFORNIA laws that haven't quite taken effect yet.

So, you have to buy a vehicle that costs as much as a 4 bedroom/2 bath house.

This is the shit which is why a 90s civic gets a nutty MPG that mogs a fucking hybrid basically. I cannot hate California enough.

 

[Nuns with guns]

I think it was starting to swing when the debate ended. Trump had a post debate conference and after-party while Kamala disappeared again. Her vague answers and camera shyness is becoming more and more of a problem for her with undecideds.

Kamala gave a speech after the debate, though it wasn't overly optimistic.

 

[Lincoln Osiris]

Betting odds right now for anyone interested. The debate did nothing for Trump. However, the fact that it barely did anything for Kamala, who needed a big win the most, is a good sign.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I think I will say it at this point: I think bringing up the springfield ohio stuff was a mistake. Specifically stuff about the pets.

Is that stuff probably really happening? Yes. Were the memes funny as fuck? Absolutely.

But I think it put a chink in the armor that didn't really need to be there. The problem is, a fact is only real if the people actually look at the evidence. And the inherent absurdity of what he was saying ended up preventing people from looking any deeper. A lot of talk from the people around me was "Wow, he thinks they are eating dogs! What a wacko!" Without looking into the situation.

It also hurt because it gave them something solid for the TDS brain. I think before this, people were kind of cracking and realizing that kamala had nothing to her. Him publicly stating multiple times his stance against p2025 and an abortion ban was close enough to showing they lost the two hanging reasons they were anti trump.

Above all, I think trump needs to realize that ye needs to bring his own evidence to the next debate. Next time, he needs to bring his own phone, and hold it up on full volume the next time they try to "erm, actually" him.

Edit: Oh, and if kamala keeps whining for another debate, tell her they can have it on fox news this time.

I have two contrasting thoughts on the Dog & Cat eating:

Sensible & Down To Earth - Yes it was a mistake, it made Trump look foolish at best and at worst just a shitty racist. He could have tackled it in a far more sensible and presidential way, "Over in Springfield Ohio there's a mass influx of immigrants and the town's residents are upset. The cost of the auto insurance and housing has exploded over there to the harm of the working class and those on fixed incomes. I have no problem with legal immigration (and I welcome New Americans) but we can't have a reckless administration. As president I will not lower Quality of Life for Everyday Americans."

Schizo Believer of 4D Chess - Trump's insane success is in large part due to making the US Political Circus stupider. He not only says stupid shit, his sphere of influence has made all politicians & media act stupider than they ever did before. This isn't done by magic (even though it can feel that way) but because Trump is such a viral person, he is the Meme President. It's to his benefit that the Democratic Party and hostile media obsess over some silly nonsense, when they do that they forget to actually attack him on real issues. Did you think Trump ranting about Haitians eating dogs & cats was his worst moment in the debate? If so then Trump's meme magic worked again. Why? IMO to me Trump's biggest fuckup during that debate was when he gave a complete non answer when asked about healthcare. He said he's got "concepts", and that is pathetic. That was one of ABC's most pointed questions during the debate and he completely fucked that up. But the less you think about that (and Kamala's rhetoric of the GREAT JOHN MCCAIN) the better that is for Trump.

If Harris wins this will be looked upon as one of the many fuck ups that cost Trump the election. If he wins then 4D Chess will need to be studied by Political Science Majors for years to come. Beyond the healthcare crap man I wish Trump had seized on what I think was a true killshot moment and bashed Dick Cheney. For me a major reason to be MAGA is to spite that ghoul who messed up a generation of Americans with the abysmal War on Terror.

Betting odds right now for anyone interested. The debate did nothing for Trump. However, the fact that it barely did anything for Kamala, who needed a big win the most, is a good sign.

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I'm not surprised I felt the debate was a wash. The people voting for Harris & Trump have their minds made up already and I don't think Harris or Trump said anything that really made their voters second guess themselves. With the exception to foreign policy; I question how any CodePink Anti-War Democrat can accept Harris who wants to continue the Ukraine War.

 

[Betonhaus]

I have two contrasting thoughts on the Dog & Cat eating

I think the most important thing is that when people ask "is this real" that answer is "technically no" and not "not in the slightest". More people then you think will pick up on the distinction.

 

[AnotherPleb]

I agree wholeheartedly, but these are people who keep crowing about OUR DEMOCRACY since they feel entitled to rule over everyone else forever.

They continue to say it's 'our democracy' because they never intend on letting you have any say.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Sensible & Down To Earth - Yes it was a mistake, it made Trump look foolish at best and at worst just a shitty racist. He could have tackled it in a far more sensible and presidential way, "Over in Springfield Ohio there's a mass influx of immigrants and the town's residents are upset. The cost of the auto insurance and housing has exploded over there to the harm of the working class and those on fixed incomes. I have no problem with legal immigration (and I welcome New Americans) but we can't have a reckless administration. As president I will not lower Quality of Life for Everyday Americans."

I don't think you've ever had to deal with Haitians they legitimately do eat cats and dogs as part of the culture they're basically the blackest pavement apes in the world they make the jungle Bunny of America look civilized in comparison

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I think the most important thing is that when people ask "is this real" that answer is "technically no" and not "not in the slightest". More people then you think will pick up on the distinction.

Interesting strategy, simply deciding and declaring something is not true because it sounds too silly to your ear, even as the evidence that it probably is true piles up.

I'm sure it worked well for you during the covid psyop, as well.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Interesting how the hashtag #TrumpLost is apparently trending, yet it has less hits than the other trending Twitter topics.

The problem isn't that he did poorly, it was a washout. The problem is that's exactly what the fuck they did in 2020 with Biden, have a so-so debate, pump out endlessly on repeat the meme that it was a terrible showing for Trump, and let every coward in 'independent media' use that as the off-ramp for tensions in the wake of the steal.

It's the same exact fucking play from 2020 and seemingly fucking nobody has noticed it. It'll take a few days to see if it works, but it's the exact same shit. Kamala's too fucking stupid to recognize it though even if it was what got her and Biden in their offices, hence her demand for a second debate.

Repeating for emphasis; this is the setup to attempt to legitimize her "win" in November. This is basic pattern recognition.

If Harris wins this will be looked upon as one of the many fuck ups that cost Trump the election.

If she "wins" it was through fraud.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

I don't think you've ever had to deal with Haitians they legitimately do eat cats and dogs as part of the culture they're basically the blackest pavement apes in the world they make the jungle Bunny of America look civilized in comparison

Correct. It is a 100% sure bet that barring them intentionally suppressing it, there absolutely have been incidents of Haitian immigrants killing and eating wild game or pets they find in America. Absolutely a sure bet. It's just a matter of finding it.

Even now the left has been reduced to "AKSHULLALY that person is from a DIFFERENT Ohio town" or "AKSHUALLY that person wasn't Haitian, technically" to cover for it. All while the right is pointing out that oh hey, they literally practice cannibalism in Haiti, and Kamala's forcing tens of thousands of these people on white communities.

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

This article was posted a few pages back, but I can't quote the post because forum software.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-president-sept-11-anniversary-rcna170544

Anyway, I just wanted to point out how propaganda works. The thrust of the article is Ornj Man Bad and tries to take away the good press he's getting for the 9/11 appearance.

But look at this particular line:

When Trump announced his presidential run in 2015, there were plenty of reasons to be concerned. He was overtly racist. He encouraged violence among his followers.

They put these hyperlinks to bolster their opinions, assuming most people won't click on them.

This bold proof that Drumpf is overtly racist is this article they did in 2015: https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/2015-the-year-racism-made-comeback-msna766046

The whole thing is a screed about racism, Rick Santorum, Jeb!, and a bunch of unrelated shit that has one mention of Trump saying anything, which is: "The perspective follows a line that was started by Donald Trump when he claimed that Mexico is sending murderers and rapists into the U.S." which was, of course, true as we now know. This is their big proof Trump is racist that they cite. They present no proof he "encouraged violence among his followers," that's just stated as fact.

They rely on the idea that dumb readers "Would Actually Like To Not Know Moar?"

The kicker by the way, is the last line of that 2015 article:

“Donald Trump is the best thing that could happen to Hillary Clinton,” Zepeda-Millán said.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I don't think you've ever had to deal with Haitians they legitimately do eat cats and dogs as part of the culture they're basically the blackest pavement apes in the world they make the jungle Bunny of America look civilized in comparison

When humans are starving to death (which happened to Haiti) they will resort to desperation. I remember a documentary on WW2 and it talked about how Europeans started eating dogs too.

Correct. It is a 100% sure bet that barring them intentionally suppressing it, there absolutely have been incidents of Haitian immigrants killing and eating wild game or pets they find in America. Absolutely a sure bet. It's just a matter of finding it.

Even now the left has been reduced to "AKSHULLALY that person is from a DIFFERENT Ohio town" or "AKSHUALLY that person wasn't Haitian, technically" to cover for it. All while the right is pointing out that oh hey, they literally practice cannibalism in Haiti, and Kamala's forcing tens of thousands of these people on white communities.

Second hand story but a good friend of mine has a story that he had a co-worker from Poland who would catch ducks in the affluent neighborhood with a manmade pond. So I believe 100% that Haitians would do that too. Slaughtering cats in large numbers I do have some disbelief over because Cats just aren't an animal that result in great yield for the effort. Yes I saw the cop video of the seemingly homeless nigress who was eating a cat but she seemed mentally ill.

Cat eating isn't even a thing anymore with Jungle Asians.

 

[demicolon]

Winners don’t beg for a rematch immediately after leaving the ring.

Yeah that's why Biden didn't request another debate. Because he won the first.

 

[Kulee Baba]

Yeah that's why Biden didn't request another debate. Because he won the first.

FYI the ABC Debate was part of Biden and Trump's agreed debates. Trump shouldn't settle for anything less than a Town Hall debate which is a far more friendly atmosphere.

 

[ForgedBlades]

I will never forgive Matt Drudge for taking the money and running. Look at this shit.

 

[Ukraine is Big Gay]

I will never forgive Matt Drudge for taking the money and running. Look at this shit.

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They must be seething deeply to unironically post this shit lol

 

[Sammich]

I will never forgive Matt Drudge for taking the money and running. Look at this shit.

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That kike faggot sold out so quickly, that site has been shit a bit before the 2020 election. I remember being a bit surprised at some of the stuff and other sites he was linking. Now it's just like that anon twitter account, some scum fuck wearing the skin of a corpse.


a month old piece, wishcasting some bullshit


well over six months old, wishcasting some bullshit


Oh, he tanked in the markets so badly (no change, and trump up a percent..

Such a goddamn disgrace now

 

[Ukraine is Big Gay]

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well over six months old, wishcasting some bullshit

The irony being a lot of french people admire and love napoleon for elevating the common man instead of chopping heads to bring kings down to them.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The new MAGA flag:

I like it.
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