Unpopular Opinions about Video Games

[Lone Wandering Courier]

I still don't get how people think the Last of Us is a 10/10 game. It's not even a game, it's just a movie with mediocre cover-based third-person shooter sections slapped on it.

 

[Day of the Cope]

RDR2 combined fidelity with good art direction and aesthetics. The end result was a gorgeous cowboy simulator.

Yeah, it's real neato that Rockstar made the testicles of your horse contract in the cold. Just wish they spend half as much time making sure your horse doesn't run into every single fence, tree, and rock like a complete fucking retard.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

It's not the worst case out there, but it's significant. We can't set the bar at Concord and give everything else a pass, that's what I see happening, the Overton window in media shifting. At this rate by time PS6 is out we'll think TLOU2 was far-right propaganda in the wake of Dustborn 3.

If they go even farther woke, they'll probably decry the modern SJWs of today as sexists for being such prudes, and go back to being sex-positive and think that anime girls with big tits are ''strong female characters'' since their appeal comes from their female figures.

I'm still not too concerned yet, once we see what the next mainline 3D Mario does with Peach we'll know whether they totally abandoned her original role or not.

Even if they did, it won't impact the player base that much. If the next game has Bowser and his kids holding the kings and queens of the world hostage like in SMB3, and it has Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Daisy as the playable characters, nobody would bat an eye, not even the culture warriors. Peach being a damsel really isn't that much of a hot-button topic when it comes to politics in gaming.

Politics in gaming. You know, I was already a gamer when that word meant the politics of the in-universe game characters, not modern dysfunctional people inserting their wackadoo political screeds into gaming. Back then, ''politics in gaming'' meant that I couldn't just have the Death Star blow up every Rebel planet in Star Wars Rebellion, not unless I wanted the galaxy as a whole to riot against me. Nowadays, it means some twat with a mouth tries to talk to us about how men liking digital women is sexism. Or men staring at sexy ladies in both video games and real life is sexism.

That's a little bit of a reach, just seems like a normal thing, not intentional pro-patriarchy social commentary. On the other hand, what I mentioned is certainly an intentional direction the series is moving in. But again, it ain't that big of a deal, I guess.

My point is that they're not afraid to say that the part of Samus that made her into a brave strong warrior came from a man. If you say that to a feminist nowadays, they'd go nuts.

The Metroid Series is going full-in on 2D Metroid and Metroid Prime-style games. Although we're still waiting for Prime 4.

I don't think it'll ever be comically woke, we won't be getting a black trans Link or gay romance with Ganondorf, but I can see them leaning into Wokeism a little quite easily. We'd hear "Zelda isn't that woke" if they just had a nonbinary secondary character who everyone casually refers to as they/them. I can already see it in my mind's eye, patern recognition is like a superpower these days.

Still, being woke is already turning into cancer that hurts profits, and if there's anything the pure capitalists of Japan hate, it's pissing on their chips when it comes to profits.

I still don't get how people think the Last of Us is a 10/10 game. It's not even a game, it's just a movie with mediocre cover-based third-person shooter sections slapped on it.

Mass Effect 2 is a better game than that. And a better movie, to boot.

 

[Day of the Cope]

Is it unpopular to say that I'm fucking tired of RPGs pretty much always being in a "fantasy" setting? We had Mass Effect until they turned the game into a glorified cover shooter and that's pretty much it.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

im 99% certain they did, Wonder was a test-bed of sorts, Nintendo really isn't woke (most Japanese companies aren't) but they are absolutely willing to cash-in on Women being able to play as her, even if socially left political ideas become less obvious in the general industry in a few years, theres always going to be things like that, people have to remember that the leadership of these companies literally dont give a shit what we think and don't want consumers input.

I don't know if it's 99% but yeah, the odds are pretty high. But they can still just let people play as Daisy or Rosalina, or have Peach unlockable by beating the game to appease people who want to play as a girl/Peach, and still maintain the series' traditions.

If they go even farther woke, they'll probably decry the modern SJWs of today as sexists for being such prudes, and go back to being sex-positive and think that anime girls with big tits are ''strong female characters'' since their appeal comes from their female figures.

Maybe, but I hope all this shit somehow burns out, though I honestly don't see that coming.

Even if they did, it won't impact the player base that much. If the next game has Bowser and his kids holding the kings and queens of the world hostage like in SMB3, and it has Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Daisy as the playable characters, nobody would bat an eye, not even the culture warriors. Peach being a damsel really isn't that much of a hot-button topic when it comes to politics in gaming.

It probably won't impact the playerbase at all, sales won't decline, but that wouldn't change that it'd suck. People didn't even bat an eye at Pokemon going woke, it sold like hotcakes. The reality is woke shit usually doesn't bother most people enough to override their consoomerism.

My point is that they're not afraid to say that the part of Samus that made her into a brave strong warrior came from a man. If you say that to a feminist nowadays, they'd go nuts.

Sure, but isn't that the minimum we should expect? Look how low the bar is. "Metroid isn't explicitly misandrist, based!"

Still, being woke is already turning into cancer that hurts profits, and if there's anything the pure capitalists of Japan hate, it's pissing on their chips when it comes to profits.

I keep hearing that, but 0 companies pivot from it, and more continue to jump on the bandwagon and double down on it. Bandai Namco recently announced they're woke niggers now, and Sony is not slowing down with this shit, meanwhile Nintendo is flirting with it (TTYD, for example).

 

[Judge Dredd]

Is it unpopular to say that I'm fucking tired of RPGs pretty much always being in a "fantasy" setting? We had Mass Effect until they turned the game into a glorified cover shooter and that's pretty much it.

I'll do you one better. So many fantasy games are straight Tolkein/Dungeon and Dragons. A fantasy can be anything, but it's always elves, dwarves, and goblins. So much so that it's immediately what comes to mind when you use the term.

 

[LORD IMPERATOR]

Maybe, but I hope all this shit somehow burns out, though I honestly don't see that coming.

It keeps alternating. Back in the old days, the feminists loved seeing sexy women on TV and hated trannies. Now it's the conservatives who love that, when they used to hate sexuality in media because they were more censorious. Both sides trade positions the same way baseball teams trade players.

It probably won't impact the playerbase at all, sales won't decline, but that wouldn't change that it'd suck. People didn't even bat an eye at Pokemon going woke, it sold like hotcakes. The reality is woke shit usually doesn't bother most people enough to override their consoomerism.

It depends. If it's subtle woke, that's been with us for more than 30 years, it flies under the radar. Nobody batted an eyelash at Captain Planet shoving environmentalism into kids' faces for years. Nor did people bat an eyelash at Batman becoming an anti-gun advocate because he doesn't use guns and his parents were killed by guns, so the comic writers made him hate guns.

Even the gaming world didn't care about that kind of woke; KOTOR had a lesbian romance in 2003, and Mass Effect not only had that in 2007, but they also made the more pro-diversity, peace-loving rhetoric the ''Paragon'' side while the nationalist, pro-human rhetoric is considered ''Renegade''. They even have Cerberus, a pro-human faction in the entire Mass Effect trilogy that plays a major part, and their alignment is typically ''Renegade'', and half the shit they do would make Unit 731 and Josef Mengele proud. Make of that what you will.

If it's overt woke, shoving shit in your face while calling you sexist for getting a boner while looking at a hot chick wearing a bikini, then yes, it's going to piss people off.

Sure, but isn't that the minimum we should expect? Look how low the bar is. "Metroid isn't explicitly misandrist, based!"

Basically, yes. But it was based because Metroid Dread pissed off game journos and David Jaffe by being Nintendo Hard, and they whined like babies about it.

I keep hearing that, but 0 companies pivot from it, and more continue to jump on the bandwagon and double down on it. Bandai Namco recently announced they're woke niggers now, and Sony is not slowing down with this shit, meanwhile Nintendo is flirting with it (TTYD, for example).

TTYD is barely a scratch. But yes, there is some experimentation with that, but Bandai Namco hasn't really done anything yet, and Sony's main base is in California now, so they're more accurately classified as a western company since they've been ignoring the East for quite some time.

I'll do you one better. So many fantasy games are straight Tolkein/Dungeon and Dragons. A fantasy can be anything, but it's always elves, dwarves, and goblins. So much so that it's immediately what comes to mind when you use the term.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. But basically, the only other version of fantasy that's popular is the ASOIAF-style backstabby Game of Thrones type, where magic is just evil and all the leaders of the world are massive cunts, or the Sword and Sorcery type where the world is a harsh environment, magic is usually evil, and once again, most world leaders are massive cunts. So between them, Tolkien's schematic looks far more appealing.

That, and many of the early RPG authors were DnD nerds, so of course, that shit spilled on their work.

 

[Edgy But Dull]

they also made the more pro-diversity, peace-loving rhetoric the ''Paragon'' side while the nationalist, pro-human rhetoric is considered ''Renegade''

Yeah but everyone couldn't resist going renegade anyways because it had significantly more fun responses. Kind of like how everyone talks up FemShep being the default Shep because her VA was suppose to be better but stats showed that the overwhelming majority of people went MaleShep.

 

[The Last Stand]

I'm sure you heard this before, but game journos thought GTA III was going to be a bomb and that State of Emergency was going to be their big title back at E3 2001.

Oh yes, I remember GTA 3 having a middling reception at E3 2001. When the game launched, it was a surprise hit. I remember the selling point of State of Emergency was how many NPCs were active on screen at once with 60fps.

I still don't get how people think the Last of Us is a 10/10 game. It's not even a game, it's just a movie with mediocre cover-based third-person shooter sections slapped on it.

Uncharted was better.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It keeps alternating. Back in the old days, the feminists loved seeing sexy women on TV and hated trannies. Now it's the conservatives who love that, when they used to hate sexuality in media because they were more censorious. Both sides trade positions the same way baseball teams trade players.

True conservatives don't typically advocate for overt sexually provocative material, never have.

It depends. If it's subtle woke, that's been with us for more than 30 years, it flies under the radar. Nobody batted an eyelash at Captain Planet shoving environmentalism into kids' faces for years. Nor did people bat an eyelash at Batman becoming an anti-gun advocate because he doesn't use guns and his parents were killed by guns, so the comic writers made him hate guns.

Yeah, but it was more rare over 30 years, especially depending on how you break it down.

Environmentalism should be a bipartisan issue to a degree, I didn't see anything wrong with Captain Planet. It didn't support passing draconian laws to force us to eat bugs or anything, just "hey maybe don't litter or dump toxic sludge into water".

As for Batman and anti-guns, you can sometimes depict something (even positively) without necessarily advocating for it politically. I don't know the intentions behind that initial decision, but I suspect it wasn't gun control propaganda.

Even the gaming world didn't care about that kind of woke; KOTOR had a lesbian romance in 2003

Sneaking gay propaganda into media isn't new, I never said it was. It was just rarer and done a little more subtly, quietly, and with a less preachy tone. They just made enough headway culturally doing it that way that they felt it was safe to ramp it up. Frog boiling.

TTYD is barely a scratch. But yes, there is some experimentation with that, but Bandai Namco hasn't really done anything yet

No, it's pretty bad. Not just Vivian but there's a whole bunch of political correct changes, such as a character no longer disliking seeing Luigi in drag, and removing a scene with Goombella being catcalled. It's pretty much ruined.

And well yeah, of course they haven't done anything yet, they're just the latest to the DEI party, very recently announcing it. There's no signs of it slowing down.

 

[Friendly Primarina]

State of Emergency could've been a sleeper hit if R* refined its foundation.

"Hurr durr lets set a GTA game during a riot but make every mission an escort mission" - retard.

 

[The Hardest R]

Nintendo plays things very safe. I don’t think they will go full Soyny anytime soon but if they feel they will catch too much shit for Princess Peach being a damsel, they will cut that out. They have an out by just just having Luigi needing to be rescued.

 

[Scarthew]

Is it unpopular to say that I'm fucking tired of RPGs pretty much always being in a "fantasy" setting? We had Mass Effect until they turned the game into a glorified cover shooter and that's pretty much it.

mass effect isnt an rpg anyway its just a shooter with tacked on skill trees and dialogue does not an rpg make. At least jrpgs have weird sci fi and lovecraft elements in them generally. FFX and its post future world that shuns technology is fun because it explains away why swords and magic are used while still allowing alien looking creations.

 

[Day of the Cope]

FFX and its post future world that shuns technology is fun because it explains away why swords and magic are used while still allowing alien looking creations.

That's part of the reason why I loved the Tales of... series. Tales of Symphonia (the Gamecube version) was my jumping on point and I guess that kinda shaped my view of RPGs going foward.

 

[Mr. 0]

Yeah, and I have no problem with it here and there, though I'd prefer her to just get her own adventures for the most part, and stay kidnapped in the mainline games. It's like Bowser being the main villain, Tatanga and Wario were fun new villains, but at the end of the day I want Bowser to be the main villain in most games.

rest in peace paper mario

 

[The Ugly One]

I'm pretty sure RAGE itself can't render cloth like physics over 30 fps. That's why the flags, inflatable tube men and banners move weird and the flags on the back of hte monster trucks glitch the fuck out when you play 60+FPS on GTA V on PC.

With RDR2, I noticed that womens dresses moved weird in certain cutscenes, so I'd assume it's something they don't want to work on and figure to release a patch would possibly highlight the effect.

A lot of game math uses integers for performance reasons, which can become turbofucked at high frame rates if you never tested for that. And once it's implemented, it often can't really be fixed without rewriting all of it.

 

[Ibanez RG 350EX]

A lot of game math uses integers for performance reasons, which can become turbofucked at high frame rates if you never tested for that. And once it's implemented, it often can't really be fixed without rewriting all of it.

But usually you're talking about several multiples of the intended frame rate before you start to get those problems. If 60 fps is enough to make RAGE physics freak out, it must really be held together with duct tape and old bubble gum.

 

[XL xQgg?QcQCaTYDMjqoDnYpG]

A lot of game math uses integers for performance reasons, which can become turbofucked at high frame rates if you never tested for that. And once it's implemented, it often can't really be fixed without rewriting all of it.

there's always the source code leak to investigate this
I found out plenty of things I was interested in by searching through it (findstr/grep)

 

[Leaded Gasoline]

But usually you're talking about several multiples of the intended frame rate before you start to get those problems. If 60 fps is enough to make RAGE physics freak out, it must really be held together with duct tape and old bubble gum.

It's just the cloth physics that die past 30 fps, the rest of the game can go up to 180 fps or so before everything falls apart

 

[The Ugly One]

But usually you're talking about several multiples of the intended frame rate before you start to get those problems. If 60 fps is enough to make RAGE physics freak out, it must really be held together with duct tape and old bubble gum.

With fixed-point arithmetic, it all depends on where you pin your range. If I'm using 16-bit fixed point, and my range is well-resolved between 1/30th of a second and 1/5th of a second, it might be total garbage in the range [1/60, 1/30).

I'm not certain that's what they're doing, of course, but things going to shit when you divide by two smells like integer truncation issues.