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For years, liberals and progressives have been raging against federal government being in the pocket of the military-industrial complex. The poster-child of that corruption was the F-35 fighter project, which is a hundreds of billions of USD over budget and years behind schedule that will deliver an aircraft inferior to the inventory the US already has. But now that Trump is saying he'll be cutting it down, people are up in arms about Lockheed-Martin's falling stocks and the possibility that Israel might not be getting as much deliveries of the aircraft. This from people who probably were against US supplying arms to Israel before the election.

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millais said:
For years, liberals and progressives have been raging against federal government being in the pocket of the military-industrial complex. The poster-child of that corruption was the F-35 fighter project, which is a hundreds of billions of USD over budget and years behind schedule that will deliver an aircraft inferior to the inventory the US already has. But now that Trump is saying he'll be cutting it down, people are up in arms about Lockheed-Martin's falling stocks and the possibility that Israel might not be getting as much deliveries of the aircraft. This from people who probably were against US supplying arms to Israel before the election.

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Good move. The F-35 is by all accounts a terrible plane that tries to do everything and is mediocre at all of them, as well as costs way too much.

Unfortunately we in Britain bought it in 2015 so we're stuck with it. Whatever happened to the prospects of carrier-capable Typhoons?
 
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Unseemly and Feral said:
I'm pretty sure if you look at it hard enough, past US elections had an outcome that was suspect. 1876 was definitely 'rigged' in the sense that they just gave Hayes the Presidency in exchange for ending Reconstruction in the South. Warren B. Harding was picked by a bunch of party elites behind closed doors, Nixon suspected as much in 1960 with the very close race between him and JFK (but he didn't try to look into because he figured it'd be better if the country came together afterwards) and in 1824 J. Q. Adams just worked out a deal with Henry Clay. That last one is pertinent to today because Andrew Jackson felt cheated in that election, and vowed revenge. 4 years later, he crushed him and we got our first populist President that was so out there he makes Trump look like nothing.
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Is that the same Henry Clay that Jackson said he regretted not shooting?
 
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That was mostly idiots invading them or fighting them on land.

They've fared considerably less well in their own foreign adventures, such as in Afghanistan. Also the Japanese handed them their ass in the Russo-Japanese War.

And as far as us, I think the Cold War ended pretty favorably for us under Reagan, with the USSR outright ceasing to exist shortly afterwards.

There's a lot of ground between outright nuclear war and kneeling and fucking deep throating Putin.
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Its also worth mentioning that despite popular perception the Russian's actually didn't fare particularly well for most of WWII. The Nazi's caught them by complete surprise, wiped out their entire air force, plowed through the country killing millions with virtually no resistance for months and were very close to capturing Moscow before they got their shit together.

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Good move. The F-35 is by all accounts a terrible plane that tries to do everything and is mediocre at all of them, as well as costs way too much.
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This is something of a misconception.

The F-35 is designed as a low-maintenance multi-role aircraft that can perform many functions very well in comparison to likely enemy aircraft. It was never intended to mach the F-22 in stealth or air superiority, the A-10 in air-to-ground firepower or the B-1/B-2 in long range bombing, but it does perform well enough in all of these categories to do the job for most American/Western missions.

And keep in mind those listed aircraft I'm comparing the F-35 to are exclusively American. It's a significant upgrade for partner nations who still rely mostly on the F-16 and its inferior foreign clones.

As far as cost is concerned the misconception arises from people who don't understand the difference between fly-away costs and expected lifetime maintenance costs. The F-35 is cheaper at this moment on a per unit basis than any comparable aircraft and gets several million dollars cheaper every year.



 
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More salt from psuedo-rebels. This one is called Erin Shrode, and she may have potential one day to be a stand alone lolcow. She has a large digital footprint(public facebook, twitter, linkedin, and Youtube channel), a larger ego, and incredibly thin skin. She went on Fox News to explain why Trump being called Time's "Person of the Year" draws to parallels to Hitler's naming by the magazine in 1934(?) and how the environment will suffer terribly due to this as well:


Now I am no fan of Tucker Carlson, who clearly only goes after low hanging fruit, or Faux(TM) news, but he initially was trying to go easy on her and couldn't stop herself from looking like a fool.
 
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AnOminous said:
That was mostly idiots invading them or fighting them on land.

They've fared considerably less well in their own foreign adventures, such as in Afghanistan. Also the Japanese handed them their ass in the Russo-Japanese War.

And as far as us, I think the Cold War ended pretty favorably for us under Reagan, with the USSR outright ceasing to exist shortly afterwards.

There's a lot of ground between outright nuclear war and kneeling and fucking deep throating Putin.
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I will mention that to me, the cold war was a Pyrrhic victory for the US. we won the cold war, but let the fact that we won go to our heads, we believed we were powerful, we began over-extending our reach and the fact we place so much money into the military at the cost of everything else in the country will be our downfall

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to be honest both republicans and democrats are guilty of this. it depends mostly on who lost
 
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King Kong... with wings? said:
I will mention that to me, the cold war was a Pyrrhic victory for the US. we won the cold war, but let the fact that we won go to our heads, we believed we were powerful, we began over-extending our reach and the fact we place so much money into the military at the cost of everything else in the country will be our downfall
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We still have a chance to undo the mistakes and prevent ourselves from fucking up further, but yeah, the most dangerous mistake the foreign policy planners made was complacency and self assuredness on intelligence and accurate perceptions on the ground. That has gotten us into trouble over and over-they didn't pay close enough attention to al qaeda before 9/11, they didn't think before going into Iraq, and this applies even domestically too-Hillary didn't see her weakness in the rust belt until it was too late.
 
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