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It has to do with people leaving fox news and realizing how pozzed the channel is. Also she looks a lot younger than she did when she had her show on fox.Rather impressed with Megyn lately, she went OFFon fag hag Taylor Swift and troonery/poonery enablers at that Tucker live show -
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I HATE TAYLOR SWIFT!
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I present to you the most cringe, pathetic political ad this week.
Edit: I may have jumped the gun, I hadn't seen this banger yet.
I present to you the most cringe, pathetic political ad this week.
Edit: I may have jumped the gun, I hadn't seen this banger yet.
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Original hagmaxxer.
Also, what committee of upper middle class white and Asian women wrote that EHHH I’M WALKIN HEAH working paisan ad? It makes me sick to my ass.
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I SMELL HERESEY!
I really like this push to the middle from Kamala, should make Trump more palatable to anyone not a deranged leftie.
How?
I really like this push to the middle from Kamala, should make Trump more palatable to anyone not a deranged leftie.
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They better not be shocked if Trump wins
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How patronizing, gross and utterly fake, yet variations on this is how Kamala treats her entire coalition of supporters, with complete disdain, just objects that can be manipulated to further propel her grasping drive for power.
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Slight powerlevel but as someone that's had FBI agents try to talk to me, they don't allow recording devices. They all carry around a little book where they can jot down notes. I assume the purpose is to only write down incriminating things, because the MOMENT you tell them you're going to record the conversation they'll pack up and leave.
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"I did my own research and you'll never believe the conclusion I came to" is the next party line huh. Same thing Swift said.
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Many haven't heard that Ghislaine Maxwell's sister was the psychystrist for both Columbine killers. What a weird coincidence!
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Most of these claims come from a book written by Doug Valentine, which are barely sourced.
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Getting drunk and hitting on trannies in his office, offering strippers $5000 to fuck.
‘Deeply uncomfortable & increasingly unsafe’: Women allege harassment by KY lawmaker
Lexington Herald-Leader (archive.ph)
By Austin Horn and Alex Acquisto
2024-09-20 12:26:44GMT
Grossberg banned from strip club after inappropriate touching; also sought sex from dancer
Lexington Herald-Leader (archive.ph)
By Alex Acquisto and Austin Horn
2024-09-20 15:41:08GMT
KY House Democrats vote to expel Grossberg from caucus after sexual misconduct reports
Lexington Herald-Leader (archive.ph)
By Alex Acquisto and Austin Horn
2024-09-20 16:18:15GMT
I guess I see why they made such a big deal about Mark Robinson yesterday, got to take the attention off this type of thing.
‘Deeply uncomfortable & increasingly unsafe’: Women allege harassment by KY lawmaker
Lexington Herald-Leader (archive.ph)
By Austin Horn and Alex Acquisto
2024-09-20 12:26:44GMT
Three more women have come forward to the Herald-Leader detailing specific instances of alleged sexual harassment by state Rep. Daniel Grossberg, even as state officials continue to investigate previous allegations of improper interactions.
The three women, all involved in Kentucky’s political scene in Frankfort, contacted the newspaper after its initial July 30 story where other women said the Louisville Democrat had sent them unwanted “creepy” and “weird” text messages they said crossed ethical lines.
That same story confirmed the state’s Legislative Research Commission was investigating Grossberg’s behavior.
The most recent allegations include inappropriate, harassing or sexually-tinged text or direct social media messages. One of the women described feeling sexually harassed by Grossberg in the summer of 2023, in his statehouse office after a legislative meeting.
Late Monday night, when presented with details of the three women’s accounts, Grossberg denied the claims, but also apologized to those he’s made “uncomfortable.”
“I deny any allegations of sexual harassment or abuse of office,” he emailed to the Herald-Leader. “I sincerely apologize to anyone who felt uncomfortable because of something I said or wrote.”
The women’s ages range from 26 to 28.
Grossberg, 45, is married. He represents about 46,000 Louisville residents in the 30th House District.
The Herald-Leader has granted the women anonymity due to the intimate nature of the allegations against Grossberg and their fears of retaliation.
To ensure the veracity of their stories, reporters reviewed 68 time-stamped texts or direct messages sent by Grossberg via X, formerly Twitter.
Reporters also reviewed another 63 text messages the women sent to friends and family detailing how his behavior triggered worries for their safety. The Herald-Leader also spoke to some of the people to whom these women confided at the time to corroborate their stories.
Their accounts paint a portrait of a rookie representative in Frankfort, running unopposed in November’s election, who wields his power and influence to target ambitious young women whose careers intersect with politics.
The three women who shared their stories for publication said they contacted Herald-Leader reporters to protect other women they feared Grossberg could target.
“While I value my position and involvement within the (Democratic) party and believe deeply in the principles it stands for, I cannot in good conscience remain silent about this issue,” one of the three women told the Herald-Leader.
“No woman should ever feel unsafe or intimidated in any situation, and especially not in a community that should be rooted in respect and equality.”
She added: “All women deserve to live and work in Kentucky without the fear of being targeted by people like Mr. Grossberg.”
Since the Herald-Leader first published the story about Grossberg’s behavior in late July, a dozen women from around the country, many of whom have no relationship with each other, reached out and shared allegations of harassing or sexually-charged communications from him dating back to 2001.
Grossberg added in his statement that he is “fully cooperating” with an ethics investigation into his conduct and said he’s determined to hold himself “to a higher standard and am committed to listening to women’s voices.”
One young woman recalled Grossberg inviting her to his office after a July 20, 2023, legislative committee meeting they both attended. He poured himself 6 to 8 shots of bourbon, eventually slurring his words. She refused his offers to drink with him.
He asked her several intrusive, sex-related questions, including about her sex life and genitals. He told her she was very attractive and said it was a “shame” she didn’t like men.
The two other women shared text messages from the past two years that they described as harassing, unwanted or threatening. Grossberg wrote to one woman “I love you” on multiple occasions, and told the other that if she were to find out his pornography preferences, she “would never forgive him.”
All three said Grossberg, one of 20 Democrats in Kentucky’s House of Representatives, is unfit for office. They said they were intimidated by him after tense interactions and receiving messages from him because he’s an elected official and about 20 years older than them.
After the Herald-Leader published its initial story, House Democrats voted to temporarily remove him from their caucus pending further investigation. House Democratic leadership also called for an additional ethics investigation, beyond the initial Legislative Research Commission probe. He also has been booted from his statehouse office space.
The Kentucky Young Democrats, a political organization that supports politicians under 40, has formally called for Grossberg to resign.
Grossberg and his Frankfort-based attorney, Anna Whites, have offered several defenses, including claiming that the initially reported texts did not reveal “sexually harassing or inappropriate” material.
When contacted close to 8:30 p.m. Monday and presented with details of the three women’s accounts, Whites said this has been a “long process” for Grossberg – “months in which he has been picked on and bullied.”
Whites said that she’s worried the latest publicized exchanges have been misunderstood.
“It’s very easy to make accusations and take comments out of context,” she added.
Whites told the Herald-Leader she had not seen any messages that “cause me concern,” or that she considers harassing.
Grossberg’s attorney has previously said the lawmaker has a “neurodivergent diagnosis,” placing him on the autism spectrum.
She did not specify what condition the lawmaker has. She told the Herald-Leader they had sent medical records to the Kentucky Legislative Ethics Commission in response to a complaint filed by House Democratic leadership against Grossberg.
The three women who most recently shared their stories to the Herald-Leader will be referred to Woman A, B and C for ease of readership and to protect their identities.
The Herald-Leader has reviewed messages corroborating that the events occurred in July 2023, as well as messages she sent to friends after about what happened.
During a late-afternoon July 20 legislative committee, Grossberg, a committee member, texted her asking to talk after it ended.
When the meeting ended, Grossberg invited her to his office instead, stating he couldn’t remember what he wanted to talk about. Woman A, who was 26 at the time, agreed.
There, he showed off some of the items on display in his office, including a bottle of bourbon made by a Jewish distiller.
Grossberg asked if she wanted a drink, she said. Woman A told him she’s sober and doesn’t drink. He insisted they do shots, and she again refused him.
As an alternative, he left his office to grab a Starbucks cold brew from a nearby fridge. He poured her a shot of cold brew and himself a shot of bourbon, and they toasted before drinking.
They’d been talking for nearly an hour when Grossberg left his capitol annex office again to see how empty the nearby rooms and hallways were given the political dynamics they were discussing. He returned and confirmed it was “just the two of us” in the office, she said.
Grossberg then brought up Senate Bill 150 — a sweeping GOP-backed law passed in March 2023 over Gov. Andy Beshear’s veto that bans doctors from providing gender-affirming health care to trans youth.
Grossberg asked Woman A, who is trans, about her own experience. Questions like, how long had she known she was trans, and did she have her gender updated on her driver’s license?
Woman A said she had fielded similar questions by other sitting lawmakers during deliberation on this bill, and the questions “did not take me by surprise,” she said.
But then Grossberg, who was still drinking bourbon, began to probe deeper, asking intimate questions that quickly made her uncomfortable. He asked about her genitals, her sex life and whether she had gender-reassignment surgery.
He added that he did not find the post-operative vaginas of trans women “convincing,” Woman A said.
She bristled at his comments and questions, saying that information was between her, her partner and her doctor.
“At this point I realized I was in a tenuous situation,” she said. “As a 26-year-old trans woman, I was alone with an inebriated middle-aged male state representative in his office, asking me about my sexual identity and history. I felt trapped.”
While this conversation was taking place, Grossberg continued to take shots of bourbon, she said.
“Sometimes, Rep. Grossberg would remember that I don’t drink. Other times, he would act as if he’d forgotten that I wasn’t drinking alcohol with him and begin to pour me a shot of bourbon,” she said. “After reminding him, he would apologize for forgetting and pour me more cold brew coffee.”
Grossberg asked her about her sexual orientation, specifically if she had ever performed a certain sexual act with a man. She responded she only dated women and was in a committed relationship.
Grossberg then told her it was a “shame” she didn’t like men, told her she was attractive and called her partner a “lucky woman.”
He then shared details about his sex life with his wife before asking her more questions about her body, which she said she did not answer.
Shortly after, she told him she needed to get home, and he said he should do the same. Grossberg offered to escort her out and she agreed.
On the walk out, he commented about how empty the building was, that they were “closing the place down.”
To avoid continuing to be alone with him, she excused herself to the restroom and told Grossberg to go ahead without her.
“I hid in the restroom for roughly 20 minutes until I was confident that he had left, and I could walk to my car without encountering him again,” she said. “I was in disbelief at what had just happened.”
Just before 6 p.m., a friend texted Woman A to ask how she was doing. She wrote back, “Well, I’m just leaving Frankfort (because) I was in a committee meeting and Grossberg wanted to chat afterwards and then he ended up getting drunk in his office.”
On several different occasions in 2024, both in person, through texts and in other messaging apps — she shared 14 different text messages from the lawmaker — Grossberg repeatedly made comments she considered harassing or threatening.
In messages she shared with the Herald-Leader, he asked questions about her sexual orientation and expressed serious romantic interest despite being married. The Herald-Leader has reviewed these messages and others referenced by Woman B.
Grossberg told her if she were to learn what his porn preferences were, “I would never forgive him,” Woman B texted a friend May 17 of this year.
“This comment, along with others, left me feeling deeply uncomfortable and increasingly unsafe,” she told the Herald-Leader. “His power within the party, combined with the nature of his questions and comments, left me feeling threatened and concerned for the future of my career.”
In one message, Grossberg encouraged Woman B to use the messaging app Snapchat, where messages and photos disappear soon after sending.
“I like chats that can’t be used against me. lol,” he wrote to her on Dec. 1, 2023.
Woman B called him “scary” and added his actions “have caused me significant distress and have left me with a deep sense of vulnerability.”
She also mentioned in a May 17 text to a friend that Grossberg was “relentlessly” asking her for nude pictures of herself.
Woman B shared with the Herald-Leader multiple texts between her and others referencing a comment Grossberg made to her, stating “you owe me.” She took that to mean either sexual favors or nude photos.
She said she’s speaking up for “those who feel silenced” and “those who are scared of his power since he is a sitting lawmaker.”
His pattern of behavior, she added, “has got to stop.”
On Nov. 27, 2021, when Woman C was 24 and “barely knew him,” Grossberg told her “I love you” and added “(I) still have your back.”
Woman C said she found it odd but didn’t push back, due to his connections and status in the political world.
But the unsolicited messages made her more uneasy to interact in person with him at political events, which they both regularly attended, she said.
In August 2022, during the busy campaign season and after Grossberg won his primary battle against a longtime incumbent, the two became more acquainted through Democratic politics.
He texted her Aug. 19, 2022, at 11:37 p.m. This time, he asked her a campaign question but prefaced it by calling her “beautiful, beautiful.”
“Being referred to as ‘beautiful, beautiful’ in a text message at 11:37 pm by a married man is something I wish to not happen to me,” she told the Herald-Leader.
“I remember waking up to that text and thinking how gross that was, but never said anything to him or anyone, because I didn’t know who to say anything to.”
On Jan. 25, 2023, Grossberg asked Woman C out for a drink in another late-night text and inquired about the year that she graduated high school.
When she answered the following morning — she agreed to get a drink but never did — he responded “there’s something about” girls from that particular high school, punctuating it with a winking emoticon: “
.”
Later that year, on May 23, Grossberg again messaged Woman C, “I love you.”
In December 2023, when Woman C was involved in another Democratic campaign, Grossberg texted her, “my crush on you just went to 11.”
“I remember the feeling of my heart sinking to my stomach as I sat in my office at work, getting ready to eat the leftover Indian food I had just warmed up,” she said. “I remember losing my appetite. I remember my entire body shaking from anxiety. I remember wanting to go home.”
Woman C eventually wrote back “Lol, I know you’re kidding when you say that, but please don’t say that to me.”
After that, the messages stopped.
However, she remained anxious and asked male friends to be around her at events, including Gov. Andy Beshear’s inaugural ball late last year, where both she and Grossberg were present.
“Two of the friends who knew about the text and I walked into the tent at the gala, and I saw Daniel,” she said. “I immediately got that feeling in my stomach again. A night that was supposed to be full of love, celebration, turned to anxiety.”
She added, “I looked at these two friends and made them swear to me they would not let him get near me.”
This story was originally published August 20, 2024, 6:00 AM.
*OP NOTE: The date/time at the top is the updated time of the article*
The three women, all involved in Kentucky’s political scene in Frankfort, contacted the newspaper after its initial July 30 story where other women said the Louisville Democrat had sent them unwanted “creepy” and “weird” text messages they said crossed ethical lines.
That same story confirmed the state’s Legislative Research Commission was investigating Grossberg’s behavior.
The most recent allegations include inappropriate, harassing or sexually-tinged text or direct social media messages. One of the women described feeling sexually harassed by Grossberg in the summer of 2023, in his statehouse office after a legislative meeting.
Late Monday night, when presented with details of the three women’s accounts, Grossberg denied the claims, but also apologized to those he’s made “uncomfortable.”
“I deny any allegations of sexual harassment or abuse of office,” he emailed to the Herald-Leader. “I sincerely apologize to anyone who felt uncomfortable because of something I said or wrote.”
The women’s ages range from 26 to 28.
Grossberg, 45, is married. He represents about 46,000 Louisville residents in the 30th House District.
The Herald-Leader has granted the women anonymity due to the intimate nature of the allegations against Grossberg and their fears of retaliation.
To ensure the veracity of their stories, reporters reviewed 68 time-stamped texts or direct messages sent by Grossberg via X, formerly Twitter.
Reporters also reviewed another 63 text messages the women sent to friends and family detailing how his behavior triggered worries for their safety. The Herald-Leader also spoke to some of the people to whom these women confided at the time to corroborate their stories.
Their accounts paint a portrait of a rookie representative in Frankfort, running unopposed in November’s election, who wields his power and influence to target ambitious young women whose careers intersect with politics.
The three women who shared their stories for publication said they contacted Herald-Leader reporters to protect other women they feared Grossberg could target.
“While I value my position and involvement within the (Democratic) party and believe deeply in the principles it stands for, I cannot in good conscience remain silent about this issue,” one of the three women told the Herald-Leader.
“No woman should ever feel unsafe or intimidated in any situation, and especially not in a community that should be rooted in respect and equality.”
She added: “All women deserve to live and work in Kentucky without the fear of being targeted by people like Mr. Grossberg.”
Since the Herald-Leader first published the story about Grossberg’s behavior in late July, a dozen women from around the country, many of whom have no relationship with each other, reached out and shared allegations of harassing or sexually-charged communications from him dating back to 2001.
Grossberg added in his statement that he is “fully cooperating” with an ethics investigation into his conduct and said he’s determined to hold himself “to a higher standard and am committed to listening to women’s voices.”
One young woman recalled Grossberg inviting her to his office after a July 20, 2023, legislative committee meeting they both attended. He poured himself 6 to 8 shots of bourbon, eventually slurring his words. She refused his offers to drink with him.
He asked her several intrusive, sex-related questions, including about her sex life and genitals. He told her she was very attractive and said it was a “shame” she didn’t like men.
The two other women shared text messages from the past two years that they described as harassing, unwanted or threatening. Grossberg wrote to one woman “I love you” on multiple occasions, and told the other that if she were to find out his pornography preferences, she “would never forgive him.”
All three said Grossberg, one of 20 Democrats in Kentucky’s House of Representatives, is unfit for office. They said they were intimidated by him after tense interactions and receiving messages from him because he’s an elected official and about 20 years older than them.
After the Herald-Leader published its initial story, House Democrats voted to temporarily remove him from their caucus pending further investigation. House Democratic leadership also called for an additional ethics investigation, beyond the initial Legislative Research Commission probe. He also has been booted from his statehouse office space.
The Kentucky Young Democrats, a political organization that supports politicians under 40, has formally called for Grossberg to resign.
Grossberg and his Frankfort-based attorney, Anna Whites, have offered several defenses, including claiming that the initially reported texts did not reveal “sexually harassing or inappropriate” material.
When contacted close to 8:30 p.m. Monday and presented with details of the three women’s accounts, Whites said this has been a “long process” for Grossberg – “months in which he has been picked on and bullied.”
Whites said that she’s worried the latest publicized exchanges have been misunderstood.
“It’s very easy to make accusations and take comments out of context,” she added.
Whites told the Herald-Leader she had not seen any messages that “cause me concern,” or that she considers harassing.
Grossberg’s attorney has previously said the lawmaker has a “neurodivergent diagnosis,” placing him on the autism spectrum.
She did not specify what condition the lawmaker has. She told the Herald-Leader they had sent medical records to the Kentucky Legislative Ethics Commission in response to a complaint filed by House Democratic leadership against Grossberg.
The three women who most recently shared their stories to the Herald-Leader will be referred to Woman A, B and C for ease of readership and to protect their identities.
“I was in a tenuous situation”
Woman A, a 28-year-old involved in politics in Frankfort, recounted what she described as sexual harassment in Grossberg’s office last summer.The Herald-Leader has reviewed messages corroborating that the events occurred in July 2023, as well as messages she sent to friends after about what happened.
During a late-afternoon July 20 legislative committee, Grossberg, a committee member, texted her asking to talk after it ended.
When the meeting ended, Grossberg invited her to his office instead, stating he couldn’t remember what he wanted to talk about. Woman A, who was 26 at the time, agreed.
There, he showed off some of the items on display in his office, including a bottle of bourbon made by a Jewish distiller.
Grossberg asked if she wanted a drink, she said. Woman A told him she’s sober and doesn’t drink. He insisted they do shots, and she again refused him.
As an alternative, he left his office to grab a Starbucks cold brew from a nearby fridge. He poured her a shot of cold brew and himself a shot of bourbon, and they toasted before drinking.
They’d been talking for nearly an hour when Grossberg left his capitol annex office again to see how empty the nearby rooms and hallways were given the political dynamics they were discussing. He returned and confirmed it was “just the two of us” in the office, she said.
Grossberg then brought up Senate Bill 150 — a sweeping GOP-backed law passed in March 2023 over Gov. Andy Beshear’s veto that bans doctors from providing gender-affirming health care to trans youth.
Grossberg asked Woman A, who is trans, about her own experience. Questions like, how long had she known she was trans, and did she have her gender updated on her driver’s license?
Woman A said she had fielded similar questions by other sitting lawmakers during deliberation on this bill, and the questions “did not take me by surprise,” she said.
But then Grossberg, who was still drinking bourbon, began to probe deeper, asking intimate questions that quickly made her uncomfortable. He asked about her genitals, her sex life and whether she had gender-reassignment surgery.
He added that he did not find the post-operative vaginas of trans women “convincing,” Woman A said.
She bristled at his comments and questions, saying that information was between her, her partner and her doctor.
“At this point I realized I was in a tenuous situation,” she said. “As a 26-year-old trans woman, I was alone with an inebriated middle-aged male state representative in his office, asking me about my sexual identity and history. I felt trapped.”
While this conversation was taking place, Grossberg continued to take shots of bourbon, she said.
“Sometimes, Rep. Grossberg would remember that I don’t drink. Other times, he would act as if he’d forgotten that I wasn’t drinking alcohol with him and begin to pour me a shot of bourbon,” she said. “After reminding him, he would apologize for forgetting and pour me more cold brew coffee.”
Grossberg asked her about her sexual orientation, specifically if she had ever performed a certain sexual act with a man. She responded she only dated women and was in a committed relationship.
Grossberg then told her it was a “shame” she didn’t like men, told her she was attractive and called her partner a “lucky woman.”
He then shared details about his sex life with his wife before asking her more questions about her body, which she said she did not answer.
Shortly after, she told him she needed to get home, and he said he should do the same. Grossberg offered to escort her out and she agreed.
On the walk out, he commented about how empty the building was, that they were “closing the place down.”
To avoid continuing to be alone with him, she excused herself to the restroom and told Grossberg to go ahead without her.
“I hid in the restroom for roughly 20 minutes until I was confident that he had left, and I could walk to my car without encountering him again,” she said. “I was in disbelief at what had just happened.”
Just before 6 p.m., a friend texted Woman A to ask how she was doing. She wrote back, “Well, I’m just leaving Frankfort (because) I was in a committee meeting and Grossberg wanted to chat afterwards and then he ended up getting drunk in his office.”
“Deeply uncomfortable and increasingly unsafe”
Woman B is 26 and involved in Democratic politics in Kentucky.On several different occasions in 2024, both in person, through texts and in other messaging apps — she shared 14 different text messages from the lawmaker — Grossberg repeatedly made comments she considered harassing or threatening.
In messages she shared with the Herald-Leader, he asked questions about her sexual orientation and expressed serious romantic interest despite being married. The Herald-Leader has reviewed these messages and others referenced by Woman B.
Grossberg told her if she were to learn what his porn preferences were, “I would never forgive him,” Woman B texted a friend May 17 of this year.
“This comment, along with others, left me feeling deeply uncomfortable and increasingly unsafe,” she told the Herald-Leader. “His power within the party, combined with the nature of his questions and comments, left me feeling threatened and concerned for the future of my career.”
In one message, Grossberg encouraged Woman B to use the messaging app Snapchat, where messages and photos disappear soon after sending.
“I like chats that can’t be used against me. lol,” he wrote to her on Dec. 1, 2023.
Woman B called him “scary” and added his actions “have caused me significant distress and have left me with a deep sense of vulnerability.”
She also mentioned in a May 17 text to a friend that Grossberg was “relentlessly” asking her for nude pictures of herself.
Woman B shared with the Herald-Leader multiple texts between her and others referencing a comment Grossberg made to her, stating “you owe me.” She took that to mean either sexual favors or nude photos.
“I remember waking up to that text and thinking how gross that was”
Woman C, who is also involved in Democratic politics in Frankfort, shared messages of Grossberg calling her “beautiful,” telling her that he loved her and saying he had a “crush” on her.She said she’s speaking up for “those who feel silenced” and “those who are scared of his power since he is a sitting lawmaker.”
His pattern of behavior, she added, “has got to stop.”
On Nov. 27, 2021, when Woman C was 24 and “barely knew him,” Grossberg told her “I love you” and added “(I) still have your back.”
Woman C said she found it odd but didn’t push back, due to his connections and status in the political world.
But the unsolicited messages made her more uneasy to interact in person with him at political events, which they both regularly attended, she said.
In August 2022, during the busy campaign season and after Grossberg won his primary battle against a longtime incumbent, the two became more acquainted through Democratic politics.
He texted her Aug. 19, 2022, at 11:37 p.m. This time, he asked her a campaign question but prefaced it by calling her “beautiful, beautiful.”
“Being referred to as ‘beautiful, beautiful’ in a text message at 11:37 pm by a married man is something I wish to not happen to me,” she told the Herald-Leader.
“I remember waking up to that text and thinking how gross that was, but never said anything to him or anyone, because I didn’t know who to say anything to.”
On Jan. 25, 2023, Grossberg asked Woman C out for a drink in another late-night text and inquired about the year that she graduated high school.
When she answered the following morning — she agreed to get a drink but never did — he responded “there’s something about” girls from that particular high school, punctuating it with a winking emoticon: “
.”Later that year, on May 23, Grossberg again messaged Woman C, “I love you.”
In December 2023, when Woman C was involved in another Democratic campaign, Grossberg texted her, “my crush on you just went to 11.”
“I remember the feeling of my heart sinking to my stomach as I sat in my office at work, getting ready to eat the leftover Indian food I had just warmed up,” she said. “I remember losing my appetite. I remember my entire body shaking from anxiety. I remember wanting to go home.”
Woman C eventually wrote back “Lol, I know you’re kidding when you say that, but please don’t say that to me.”
After that, the messages stopped.
However, she remained anxious and asked male friends to be around her at events, including Gov. Andy Beshear’s inaugural ball late last year, where both she and Grossberg were present.
“Two of the friends who knew about the text and I walked into the tent at the gala, and I saw Daniel,” she said. “I immediately got that feeling in my stomach again. A night that was supposed to be full of love, celebration, turned to anxiety.”
She added, “I looked at these two friends and made them swear to me they would not let him get near me.”
This story was originally published August 20, 2024, 6:00 AM.
*OP NOTE: The date/time at the top is the updated time of the article*
Lexington Herald-Leader (archive.ph)
By Alex Acquisto and Austin Horn
2024-09-20 15:41:08GMT
State Rep. Daniel Grossberg offered a dancer at a Louisville strip club $5,000 to have sex with him about two weeks before he was banned for life for inappropriately touching another club dancer, the Herald-Leader has learned.
The Louisville Democrat has been ensnared in a growing controversy throughout the summer linked to his harassing, sexually charged texts and interactions with young women. Numerous Democrats around the commonwealth have called for his resignation, and one of his accusers said in a column published Thursday Grossberg is a potential risk to unsuspecting women.
Six sources at Foxys Gentlemens Club say the married 45-year-old Grossberg was a familiar figure at the club. In fact, he had been kicked out at least twice because of drinking too much and grabbing the dancers.
But he crossed the line when he moved a dancer’s underwear and tried to touch her genitals as she was performing on stage.
“He was calling girls all kinds of names,” Foxys’ co-owner Milford Renfrow told the Herald-Leader. “Disrespecting the girls and grabbing them.”
After a club manager escorted Grossberg from the club to its parking lot off Berry Boulevard, he tried to use his status as a state legislator to get back in. When that failed, he warned he could close down the 24-year-old strip club.
“’You don’t know who I am,’” the club’s manager recalls Grossberg telling him. The freshman legislator also said he “could shut this place down.”
The manager who kicked Grossberg out that night said he was not swayed by Grossberg’s threats.
“I don’t care if you’re Donald Trump. I don’t care who you are,” the manager said he responded. “You can’t treat girls like this.”
To tell this story, the Herald-Leader conducted 13 interviews at Foxys over the past two weeks after receiving a tip from an anonymous exotic dancer that Grossberg was publicly harassing and acting inappropriately at a different Louisville club.
This story is based on independent interviews with Renfrow, as well as the club manager, two bartenders, two dancers and one of the dancer’s close friends who was told of Grossberg’s solicitation the night it happened.
The Herald-Leader is not publishing the names of those unidentified individuals because they fear physical retribution from Grossberg.
In the gentlemen’s club business, it’s not unusual for patrons to be tossed out for being inebriated or violating a club rule, Foxys staff told the Herald-Leader.
But banning someone for life is rare, a remedy used only in extreme circumstances, they said.
In his 22 years in the business, Renfrow estimated that Foxys has permanently banned about five people each year.
“There’s guys that drink a little too much and try to push their luck,” he said. “To those guys, you say, ‘You’ve had a little bit too much to drink, but you can try it again tomorrow.’”
“Then there’s other guys where you have to say, ‘You’ve gotta get out and don’t ever come back.’”
Grossberg was one of those guys, he said.
“We don’t put up with guys like that.”
The new revelations from a strip club in an industrial neighborhood in Louisville, about a mile west of famed Churchill Downs, includes the first confirmed incident where Grossberg used his prominence as a state legislator to publicly threaten others, or, in the case of one dancer, to offer her money for sex, which is illegal in Kentucky.
When presented with the latest allegations, Grossberg on Thursday evening denied soliciting prostitution, or that he used his state representative status unethically.
“Like many people my age, I have been to adult clubs, including Foxy’s (sic.) I have never solicited prostitution from anyone, nor have I referenced my office to gain advantage,” he wrote in a statement.
“The allegations get more outlandish with each story, but they won’t stop me from continuing to work tirelessly to serve my constituents.”
Over the past seven weeks, since the Herald-Leader published its first investigative story about Grossberg’s behavior, the legislator and his lawyer, Anna Whites, have steadfastly denied any impropriety.
The newspaper has reported accounts from six different women in Kentucky politics, including three who say his behavior over social media messages, texts and in-person encounters amounted to sexual harassment.
“I never, in my work, approached or crossed a line in my professional communications,” Grossberg said in a July 30 statement released through Whites after the first three women came forward.
And on Aug. 22, following another three women speaking up, Grossberg told the Herald-Leader via email that he denied “any allegations of . . . abuse of office.”
These latest allegations at Foxys come as Grossberg is under formal scrutiny from two separate investigations for alleged misconduct — one by the Legislative Research Commission, the legislature’s administrative arm, and another by the Legislative Ethics Commission.
Several Democrats have called for his resignation, which Grossberg has repeatedly spurned.
In late August, Gov. Andy Beshear, the top Democrat in the state, said Grossberg should give “serious thought” to resigning.
Elected to Kentucky’s 30th House District in 2022, Grossberg currently remains on November’s ballot, facing no opposition after having beat a primary challenger by 50 votes. He represents about 45,000 Louisville residents.
After the 2023 holidays, in early winter, Grossberg visited Foxys for the last time.
With others in the club, the lawmaker sat very close to the main stage and watched a dancer that he had previously expressed interest in perform on the stage.
He began tipping her.
“Then, eventually, he just moved my bottoms all the way to the side, and he tried to, like, touch me,” the dancer said.
She said she moved away just before he could touch her crotch.
“He just moved my bottoms all the way to the side . . . but I moved before he could,” she said. “Then I turned around and I’m like, ‘What’s up? Don’t do that.’”
She said he tried to play it off as “just trying to tip” her, but she recalled Grossberg didn’t have money in his hand.
The night shift bartender remembers the then-20-year-old dancer’s reaction.
“Her face was white,” the bartender said. “She was angry, scared, and she was like, ‘He needs to go. He touched me.’”
Security and the manager were notified, and Grossberg was quickly escorted out.
This was not the dancer’s first threatening interaction with Grossberg.
Roughly a week before Grossberg was banned, he came into the club and ordered a drink. Frustrated that dancers weren’t paying attention to him, he waved a wad of $20s and $100s at that same night shift bartender — the same one working the night he was banned.
“He was upset,” the bartender said.
Minutes later, she retreated to the dancers’ locker room and told them, “There’s a guy with a lot of money here.”
She called a few over to the bar, and Grossberg insulted them, calling one “ugly” and another “fat,” the bartender told the Herald-Leader.
“You can’t talk to the girls that way,” the bartender told Grossberg.
The dancer Grossberg would days later try to grab on stage approached him at the top of the hour, when patrons are expected to tip dancers $1 for a short “dollar dance.”
When she finished, Grossberg refused to tip her, instead sticking his leg and arm against the bar stool next to her, trapping her between his body and the bar, she said.
“I tried to push him, and then he grabbed my arm. Then I literally said, ‘Unhand me.’ Like, I told him to let me go. He kind of, like, fought against me, but like I nudged with my arm and he let go,” the dancer said.
On the night Grossberg was banned for good, the dancer was purposely “avoiding him because of the last time” she saw him. She and the bartender said Grossberg appeared “visibly frustrated” because of that.
“He even got mad at me,” the bartender said. “And was like, ‘You need to bring her over here,’ and I was like, ‘Look, she doesn’t want to sit with you.’”
A fellow dancer with whom she shared what happened, as well as a male friend who gave her a ride home that night, corroborated the dancer’s story.
“I’m like, ‘We don’t do sex,’ the dancer, 21 years old at the time, recalls telling Grossberg that night. “This is a strip club. You get a dance.”
Grossberg did not relent.
He repeatedly asked her how much money it would take for her to have sex. His offer eventually went up to $5,000, she said. In return, she would have to perform in a violent sexual fantasy he described to her in detail.
“He told me that he worked with Kentucky government, and he kind of talked about how he worked more heavily with the police and stuff,” the woman said. “Then he offered that if I did do it, he could guarantee me immunity from certain things.”
The dancer said she believed that “certain things” meant criminal charges for prostitution, at the least.
She said he told her to give him a list of up to five names, including her own, and he would make sure they all were kept out of legal trouble. After the dancer rebuffed him several times, the conversation ended.
Grossberg bought her a drink and said he’d be in contact again.
“After that, I refused to interact with him,” she said.
And on subsequent nights when Grossberg came to the club when she was working, “I just stayed away from him.”
Six women have argued the married legislator has improperly used his stature to intimidate, harass and make them feel uncomfortable through sexually charged electronic messages and in-person interactions.
Whites and Grossberg have offered several defenses, including claiming that some texts did not reveal “sexually harassing or inappropriate” material. Her client also has been “picked on and bullied for months,” she said.
Grossberg’s actions, texts and direct messages have been misinterpreted or “taken out of context for the purposes of media stories,” Whites said. The accusations have been “unfounded,” they have insisted.
“I deny any allegations of sexual harassment or abuse of office,” Grossberg emailed to the Herald-Leader on Aug. 22. “I sincerely apologize to anyone who felt uncomfortable because of something I said or wrote.”
In defending Grossberg, Whites previously has said the lawmaker has a “neurodivergent diagnosis,” placing him on the autism spectrum, which means his brain processes information differently.
The Herald-Leader has also reported Grossberg was the subject of campus controversy at Grinnell College in the early 2000s when he penned a satirical advice column that seemingly tried to play off a reputation he’d gained for making women uncomfortable at the Iowa college.
In his “Sketchy Dan” column, he recommended that “lonely,” “horny” and “creepy” young men aggressively pursue women on campus, even if the women weren’t interested.
The Louisville Democrat has been ensnared in a growing controversy throughout the summer linked to his harassing, sexually charged texts and interactions with young women. Numerous Democrats around the commonwealth have called for his resignation, and one of his accusers said in a column published Thursday Grossberg is a potential risk to unsuspecting women.
Six sources at Foxys Gentlemens Club say the married 45-year-old Grossberg was a familiar figure at the club. In fact, he had been kicked out at least twice because of drinking too much and grabbing the dancers.
But he crossed the line when he moved a dancer’s underwear and tried to touch her genitals as she was performing on stage.
“He was calling girls all kinds of names,” Foxys’ co-owner Milford Renfrow told the Herald-Leader. “Disrespecting the girls and grabbing them.”
After a club manager escorted Grossberg from the club to its parking lot off Berry Boulevard, he tried to use his status as a state legislator to get back in. When that failed, he warned he could close down the 24-year-old strip club.
“’You don’t know who I am,’” the club’s manager recalls Grossberg telling him. The freshman legislator also said he “could shut this place down.”
The manager who kicked Grossberg out that night said he was not swayed by Grossberg’s threats.
“I don’t care if you’re Donald Trump. I don’t care who you are,” the manager said he responded. “You can’t treat girls like this.”
To tell this story, the Herald-Leader conducted 13 interviews at Foxys over the past two weeks after receiving a tip from an anonymous exotic dancer that Grossberg was publicly harassing and acting inappropriately at a different Louisville club.
This story is based on independent interviews with Renfrow, as well as the club manager, two bartenders, two dancers and one of the dancer’s close friends who was told of Grossberg’s solicitation the night it happened.
The Herald-Leader is not publishing the names of those unidentified individuals because they fear physical retribution from Grossberg.
In the gentlemen’s club business, it’s not unusual for patrons to be tossed out for being inebriated or violating a club rule, Foxys staff told the Herald-Leader.
But banning someone for life is rare, a remedy used only in extreme circumstances, they said.
In his 22 years in the business, Renfrow estimated that Foxys has permanently banned about five people each year.
“There’s guys that drink a little too much and try to push their luck,” he said. “To those guys, you say, ‘You’ve had a little bit too much to drink, but you can try it again tomorrow.’”
“Then there’s other guys where you have to say, ‘You’ve gotta get out and don’t ever come back.’”
Grossberg was one of those guys, he said.
“We don’t put up with guys like that.”
The new revelations from a strip club in an industrial neighborhood in Louisville, about a mile west of famed Churchill Downs, includes the first confirmed incident where Grossberg used his prominence as a state legislator to publicly threaten others, or, in the case of one dancer, to offer her money for sex, which is illegal in Kentucky.
When presented with the latest allegations, Grossberg on Thursday evening denied soliciting prostitution, or that he used his state representative status unethically.
“Like many people my age, I have been to adult clubs, including Foxy’s (sic.) I have never solicited prostitution from anyone, nor have I referenced my office to gain advantage,” he wrote in a statement.
“The allegations get more outlandish with each story, but they won’t stop me from continuing to work tirelessly to serve my constituents.”
Over the past seven weeks, since the Herald-Leader published its first investigative story about Grossberg’s behavior, the legislator and his lawyer, Anna Whites, have steadfastly denied any impropriety.
The newspaper has reported accounts from six different women in Kentucky politics, including three who say his behavior over social media messages, texts and in-person encounters amounted to sexual harassment.
“I never, in my work, approached or crossed a line in my professional communications,” Grossberg said in a July 30 statement released through Whites after the first three women came forward.
And on Aug. 22, following another three women speaking up, Grossberg told the Herald-Leader via email that he denied “any allegations of . . . abuse of office.”
These latest allegations at Foxys come as Grossberg is under formal scrutiny from two separate investigations for alleged misconduct — one by the Legislative Research Commission, the legislature’s administrative arm, and another by the Legislative Ethics Commission.
Several Democrats have called for his resignation, which Grossberg has repeatedly spurned.
In late August, Gov. Andy Beshear, the top Democrat in the state, said Grossberg should give “serious thought” to resigning.
Elected to Kentucky’s 30th House District in 2022, Grossberg currently remains on November’s ballot, facing no opposition after having beat a primary challenger by 50 votes. He represents about 45,000 Louisville residents.
The night Grossberg was banned
Grossberg was a familiar figure in Foxys. But only a few were aware he was an elected official, and they only knew because he told them.After the 2023 holidays, in early winter, Grossberg visited Foxys for the last time.
With others in the club, the lawmaker sat very close to the main stage and watched a dancer that he had previously expressed interest in perform on the stage.
He began tipping her.
“Then, eventually, he just moved my bottoms all the way to the side, and he tried to, like, touch me,” the dancer said.
She said she moved away just before he could touch her crotch.
“He just moved my bottoms all the way to the side . . . but I moved before he could,” she said. “Then I turned around and I’m like, ‘What’s up? Don’t do that.’”
She said he tried to play it off as “just trying to tip” her, but she recalled Grossberg didn’t have money in his hand.
The night shift bartender remembers the then-20-year-old dancer’s reaction.
“Her face was white,” the bartender said. “She was angry, scared, and she was like, ‘He needs to go. He touched me.’”
Security and the manager were notified, and Grossberg was quickly escorted out.
This was not the dancer’s first threatening interaction with Grossberg.
Roughly a week before Grossberg was banned, he came into the club and ordered a drink. Frustrated that dancers weren’t paying attention to him, he waved a wad of $20s and $100s at that same night shift bartender — the same one working the night he was banned.
“He was upset,” the bartender said.
Minutes later, she retreated to the dancers’ locker room and told them, “There’s a guy with a lot of money here.”
She called a few over to the bar, and Grossberg insulted them, calling one “ugly” and another “fat,” the bartender told the Herald-Leader.
“You can’t talk to the girls that way,” the bartender told Grossberg.
The dancer Grossberg would days later try to grab on stage approached him at the top of the hour, when patrons are expected to tip dancers $1 for a short “dollar dance.”
When she finished, Grossberg refused to tip her, instead sticking his leg and arm against the bar stool next to her, trapping her between his body and the bar, she said.
“I tried to push him, and then he grabbed my arm. Then I literally said, ‘Unhand me.’ Like, I told him to let me go. He kind of, like, fought against me, but like I nudged with my arm and he let go,” the dancer said.
On the night Grossberg was banned for good, the dancer was purposely “avoiding him because of the last time” she saw him. She and the bartender said Grossberg appeared “visibly frustrated” because of that.
“He even got mad at me,” the bartender said. “And was like, ‘You need to bring her over here,’ and I was like, ‘Look, she doesn’t want to sit with you.’”
Grossberg offers $5,000 for sex
Two weeks before he inappropriately touched the on-stage dancer, Grossberg offer to pay another dancer $5,000 to have sex with him. Prostitution is a crime in Kentucky.A fellow dancer with whom she shared what happened, as well as a male friend who gave her a ride home that night, corroborated the dancer’s story.
“I’m like, ‘We don’t do sex,’ the dancer, 21 years old at the time, recalls telling Grossberg that night. “This is a strip club. You get a dance.”
Grossberg did not relent.
He repeatedly asked her how much money it would take for her to have sex. His offer eventually went up to $5,000, she said. In return, she would have to perform in a violent sexual fantasy he described to her in detail.
“He told me that he worked with Kentucky government, and he kind of talked about how he worked more heavily with the police and stuff,” the woman said. “Then he offered that if I did do it, he could guarantee me immunity from certain things.”
The dancer said she believed that “certain things” meant criminal charges for prostitution, at the least.
She said he told her to give him a list of up to five names, including her own, and he would make sure they all were kept out of legal trouble. After the dancer rebuffed him several times, the conversation ended.
Grossberg bought her a drink and said he’d be in contact again.
“After that, I refused to interact with him,” she said.
And on subsequent nights when Grossberg came to the club when she was working, “I just stayed away from him.”
Previous allegations against Grossberg
Since July 30, the Herald-Leader has published three stories detailing Grossberg’s interactions and communications with young women, all of whom are involved in the commonwealth’s political scene.Six women have argued the married legislator has improperly used his stature to intimidate, harass and make them feel uncomfortable through sexually charged electronic messages and in-person interactions.
Whites and Grossberg have offered several defenses, including claiming that some texts did not reveal “sexually harassing or inappropriate” material. Her client also has been “picked on and bullied for months,” she said.
Grossberg’s actions, texts and direct messages have been misinterpreted or “taken out of context for the purposes of media stories,” Whites said. The accusations have been “unfounded,” they have insisted.
“I deny any allegations of sexual harassment or abuse of office,” Grossberg emailed to the Herald-Leader on Aug. 22. “I sincerely apologize to anyone who felt uncomfortable because of something I said or wrote.”
In defending Grossberg, Whites previously has said the lawmaker has a “neurodivergent diagnosis,” placing him on the autism spectrum, which means his brain processes information differently.
The Herald-Leader has also reported Grossberg was the subject of campus controversy at Grinnell College in the early 2000s when he penned a satirical advice column that seemingly tried to play off a reputation he’d gained for making women uncomfortable at the Iowa college.
In his “Sketchy Dan” column, he recommended that “lonely,” “horny” and “creepy” young men aggressively pursue women on campus, even if the women weren’t interested.
Lexington Herald-Leader (archive.ph)
By Alex Acquisto and Austin Horn
2024-09-20 16:18:15GMT
Embattled State Rep. Daniel Grossberg is no longer allowed to caucus with his fellow Democrats in the Kentucky House of Representatives.
“In addition to calling for state Representative Daniel Grossberg’s resignation today, the Kentucky House Democratic Caucus also voted to expel him permanently as a caucus member,” party leaders said in a statement Friday afternoon.
“He has since been notified of that change, which previously had been a suspension.”
House Democrats voted in late July to temporarily suspend the Louisville freshman lawmaker following Herald-Leader reporting of “creepy” and “weird” messages he’d sent to women in Kentucky politics. They also asked for a formal investigation of his conduct by the Legislative Ethics Commission, which has since unanimously voted to further the probe into his conduct.
Removal from caucus means the 45-year-old lawmaker who represents the 30th House District is not allowed to vote for who should serve in House Democratic leadership and cannot attend caucus meetings, during which policy and votes are discussed among party members.
Additionally, Grossberg will not have access to caucus resources, like assistance from its staff on bill drafting and research.
House Democratic leadership in August also informed Grossberg he’d been removed from all his interim committee assignments.
Also in August, the Herald-Leader has reported the experiences of three more young women in Kentucky politics who shared allegations of inappropriate, harassing or sexually-tinged text or direct social media messages.
And just Friday morning, a Herald-Leader investigation revealed Grossberg had been banned for life for inappropriately touching a dancer at Foxys Gentlemens Club in Louisville. He’d also solicited a different dancer for sex just two weeks before, offering her as much as $5,000 to act out a specific sexual fantasy, she told the newspaper.
Grossberg has denied all allegations of impropriety and rebuffed the mounting calls for his resignation, which now include top Kentucky Democrats Gov. Andy Beshear and Lt. Gov. Jacqueline Coleman.
“In addition to calling for state Representative Daniel Grossberg’s resignation today, the Kentucky House Democratic Caucus also voted to expel him permanently as a caucus member,” party leaders said in a statement Friday afternoon.
“He has since been notified of that change, which previously had been a suspension.”
House Democrats voted in late July to temporarily suspend the Louisville freshman lawmaker following Herald-Leader reporting of “creepy” and “weird” messages he’d sent to women in Kentucky politics. They also asked for a formal investigation of his conduct by the Legislative Ethics Commission, which has since unanimously voted to further the probe into his conduct.
Removal from caucus means the 45-year-old lawmaker who represents the 30th House District is not allowed to vote for who should serve in House Democratic leadership and cannot attend caucus meetings, during which policy and votes are discussed among party members.
Additionally, Grossberg will not have access to caucus resources, like assistance from its staff on bill drafting and research.
House Democratic leadership in August also informed Grossberg he’d been removed from all his interim committee assignments.
Also in August, the Herald-Leader has reported the experiences of three more young women in Kentucky politics who shared allegations of inappropriate, harassing or sexually-tinged text or direct social media messages.
And just Friday morning, a Herald-Leader investigation revealed Grossberg had been banned for life for inappropriately touching a dancer at Foxys Gentlemens Club in Louisville. He’d also solicited a different dancer for sex just two weeks before, offering her as much as $5,000 to act out a specific sexual fantasy, she told the newspaper.
Grossberg has denied all allegations of impropriety and rebuffed the mounting calls for his resignation, which now include top Kentucky Democrats Gov. Andy Beshear and Lt. Gov. Jacqueline Coleman.
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