US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[mlanguishi]

Most people don't remember the Hearing Protection Act of 2016 (2015 maybe?) that had already passed both the House and the Senate and just needed a President who would sign it. That law would've removed suppressors from the NFA registry making them easy to buy. Trump suggested he would sign it and Trump Jr. promised he would do it in his first week. Nope. Fast forward a couple years and Trump says in an interview that he doesn't like suppressors at all, meaning he'd ban them altogether like bump stocks and braces if the opportunity arose. The man would negotiate away the 2A if he could and get something stupid in return.

Well yeah, the best president the USA ever had on guns in general in the last many decades was W. He (Trump) is certainly weak on it, but he also doesn't openly call for a AWB, at least hasn't yet.

Do I trust him fully on 2A? Nope. I wish SBRs and Suppressors were off the NFA long ago, but nobody seems to watch to touch that. At least with Trump we have a USSC that is actively protecting 2A. Do you think if Harris gets a few in they will?

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

He's singing the TikTok version by The Marine Rapper

No wonder the Hollywood kikes want to ban this. Some rapper working at Walmart made better content than 90 SNL writers could come up with. We get it for free too

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Well yeah, the best president the USA ever had on guns in general in the last many decades was W.

nigga, what? Ruby ridge, lol.

 

[mlanguishi]

nigga, what? Ruby ridge, lol.

Ruby Ridge was his father...... W pretty much ended the AWB when he could've easily renewed it, and also helped push the spread of CCW.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Ruby Ridge was his father...... W pretty much ended the AWB when he could've easily renewed it, and also helped push the spread of CCW.

Should have said JR. - H.W and W and the same shit. Also I’ll take gun grabbing over the fucking Iraq war lmao.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Well yeah, the best president the USA ever had on guns in general in the last many decades was W. He (Trump) is certainly weak on it, but he also doesn't openly call for a AWB, at least hasn't yet.

Do I trust him fully on 2A? Nope. I wish SBRs and Suppressors were off the NFA long ago, but nobody seems to watch to touch that. At least with Trump we have a USSC that is actively protecting 2A. Do you think if Harris gets a few in they will?

In my experience super-rich people and politicians who have had personal security details for decades tend to be out of touch with people's desire for self-defense and protection.

 

[mlanguishi]

In my experience super-rich people and politicians who have had personal security details for decades tend to be out of touch with people's desire for self-defense and protection.

And Trump's from NYC, so it's not like he's going to be some strong gun guy. Just not pushing actively against it is enough for me. Let his USSC picks take that part on like they are even on bump stocks. Works for me.

 

[Gehenna]

Yep, women love war, at least as long as it's not happening where they live. Just look at all the bitches in Russia going RAH RAH about the war in Ukraine then when Kursk started getting invaded you see these same women with flags all over the place crying about how it's barbaric or some shit. There's a reason Orwell called women dumb propaganda swallowers.

You touch on why the AWFLs don't want WWIII. They all as a general class seem to believe that if it kicks off the U.S. mainland will be invaded more or less from the start. Now, you and I know this idea is bullshit. They do not.

They believe WWIII means the war -will- be where they live.

Well yeah, the best president the USA ever had on guns in general in the last many decades was W. He (Trump) is certainly weak on it, but he also doesn't openly call for a AWB, at least hasn't yet.

Do I trust him fully on 2A? Nope. I wish SBRs and Suppressors were off the NFA long ago, but nobody seems to watch to touch that. At least with Trump we have a USSC that is actively protecting 2A. Do you think if Harris gets a few in they will?

Also do keep in mind a lot of Trump's 2A (and Vax) actions were under advisement from his daughter and her husband. Both major Neocons.

 

[mlanguishi]

They believe WWIII means the war -will- be where they live.

Bulava and SS-18/other warheads landing on their heads is a distinct possibility though. We're already being land invaded as much as possible anyway. I doubt they'd care about a real military.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

And Trump's from NYC, so it's not like he's going to be some strong gun guy. Just not pushing actively against it is enough for me. Let his USSC picks take that part on like they are even on bump stocks. Works for me.

It doesn't matter if he's actively against it if he sees it as a negotiating chip willing to be traded away for something far less important. That's how Trump sees the second amendment.

 

[ChrisIsGay]

That's probably the worst thing he did IMO.

Operation Warp speed was far worse then the bump stock ban.

 

[Frostnipped Todger]

Fender's affordable instruments are usually the best quality/value. The quality control on their high end stuff is pretty good, too. Gibson's quality control is inconsistent as fuck. Maybe a few decades ago Gibson was better, and worth the insane prices, but not these days.

As a "Gibson Artist" (I get 40% off), I wouldn't buy a Gibson without playing it first. QC is a joke, and has been for far too long.

 

[Gehenna]

Oh a bit of insider knowledge courtesy of the post-event loose lips. The debate was an utter catastrophe internally.

Apparently I was pretty close but not quite on the mark when I said it was supposed to be the moderators running cover for Harris as she is supposed to lay out her plans. Close because it was actually meant to be structured to ruin Trump and aid Harris with the moderators only subtly helping her.

Meant to, but Harris utterly choked.

The event was supposed to be this,

Odd numbered questions: Harris gets to go first, gets questioned about something she is strong on, she runs platitudes and feels, the moderators switch to Trump to get a response and a zinger, then swap to Harris for a rebuttal where she outlines policy and gets the last word.

Even numbered questions: Trump gets questioned on something he is weak on, Harris responds quickly and dodges any real response except a dig in to him, Trump then gets angry and proceeds to say things off the cuff.

It was actually not a bad plan at all, and if it had gone right it would have been bad for Trump. Except... Harris choked. It started right, Trump did his response, but when it came back to Harris she either forgot the policy or completely failed to keep her composure. Nobody is sure because she refuses to talk about it or sit down to see where she can improve. The moderators tried to fix it, and this is why that first question kept going back and forth so long, tried to set her up for the plan but she just completely choked.

And this kept happening for every question. The moderators increasingly having to step in until by the end it was what everyone acknowledges as a 3 v 1 match.


The entire thing had a plan but she just absolutely wrecked it from the start and internally nobody has a clue what to do with it. The debate she is trying to get going is meant to be a repeat of the plan.

 

[mlanguishi]

Operation Warp speed was far worse then the bump stock ban.

Probably. I can 'forgive' that some because everyone on all sides was demanding it, from what I remember. At least he wanted it optional, no mandates. To me having an option to poison yourself is a bit less draconian than banning features on firearms, but I understand your viewpoint. Just my opinion on what's worse.

@Gehenna Yeah, that description is pretty much what happened from what I saw too. Trump started strong and they were hoping she'd be able to react, but by around 30 minutes in the mods were in panic mode and had to start picking up the slack and did so until the end.

 

[Vaclav]

Harris banging second debate drum so hard is a sign that she needs it.

Donald J. Trump is shaping future culture.

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Link to tweet: https://x.com/TONYxTWO/status/1837584574844489905
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I've thought that Trump's real metagame victory in that debate was to embed this idea in popular consciousness - even as they were trying to refute it, the Dems got more people to repeat the line about "eating the cats." If they had any brains they should have memoryholed it ASAP, it's a gut punch that goes far beyond any policy discussion. It reflects the destruction of everything normal and wholesome in the country.

 

[Mr.Morningstar]

Spoiler: ai nightmare fuel

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She really is Kamala "chameleon" Harris.

 

[John Badman]

Oh a bit of insider knowledge courtesy of the post-event loose lips. The debate was an utter catastrophe internally.

Apparently I was pretty close but not quite on the mark when I said it was supposed to be the moderators running cover for Harris as she is supposed to lay out her plans. Close because it was actually meant to be structured to ruin Trump and aid Harris with the moderators only subtly helping her.

Meant to, but Harris utterly choked.

The event was supposed to be this,

Odd numbered questions: Harris gets to go first, gets questioned about something she is strong on, she runs platitudes and feels, the moderators switch to Trump to get a response and a zinger, then swap to Harris for a rebuttal where she outlines policy and gets the last word.

Even numbered questions: Trump gets questioned on something he is weak on, Harris responds quickly and dodges any real response except a dig in to him, Trump then gets angry and proceeds to say things off the cuff.

It was actually not a bad plan at all, and if it had gone right it would have been bad for Trump. Except... Harris choked. It started right, Trump did his response, but when it came back to Harris she either forgot the policy or completely failed to keep her composure. Nobody is sure because she refuses to talk about it or sit down to see where she can improve. The moderators tried to fix it, and this is why that first question kept going back and forth so long, tried to set her up for the plan but she just completely choked.

And this kept happening for every question. The moderators increasingly having to step in until by the end it was what everyone acknowledges as a 3 v 1 match.


The entire thing had a plan but she just absolutely wrecked it from the start and internally nobody has a clue what to do with it. The debate she is trying to get going is meant to be a repeat of the plan.

Which is why it’s important to get her to debate on X with Elon.

 

[Necrosan]

The entire thing had a plan but she just absolutely wrecked it from the start and internally nobody has a clue what to do with it. The debate she is trying to get going is meant to be a repeat of the plan.

I love how she is like the person at a school project who is so dumb that, even when they try to help, they fuck it up and it's better to let them sit on a corner, touch nothing while everyone works and earn the grade in silence.

Feel bad for the one dude who is trying his hardest to carry Kamala through the finish line.

 

[Betonhaus]

Oh a bit of insider knowledge courtesy of the post-event loose lips. The debate was an utter catastrophe internally.

Apparently I was pretty close but not quite on the mark when I said it was supposed to be the moderators running cover for Harris as she is supposed to lay out her plans. Close because it was actually meant to be structured to ruin Trump and aid Harris with the moderators only subtly helping her.

Meant to, but Harris utterly choked.

The event was supposed to be this,

Odd numbered questions: Harris gets to go first, gets questioned about something she is strong on, she runs platitudes and feels, the moderators switch to Trump to get a response and a zinger, then swap to Harris for a rebuttal where she outlines policy and gets the last word.

Even numbered questions: Trump gets questioned on something he is weak on, Harris responds quickly and dodges any real response except a dig in to him, Trump then gets angry and proceeds to say things off the cuff.

It was actually not a bad plan at all, and if it had gone right it would have been bad for Trump. Except... Harris choked. It started right, Trump did his response, but when it came back to Harris she either forgot the policy or completely failed to keep her composure. Nobody is sure because she refuses to talk about it or sit down to see where she can improve. The moderators tried to fix it, and this is why that first question kept going back and forth so long, tried to set her up for the plan but she just completely choked.

And this kept happening for every question. The moderators increasingly having to step in until by the end it was what everyone acknowledges as a 3 v 1 match.


The entire thing had a plan but she just absolutely wrecked it from the start and internally nobody has a clue what to do with it. The debate she is trying to get going is meant to be a repeat of the plan.

Which raises the question:
1. If they did it all over again how are they sure Harris won't choke again?
2. What possible leverage do they have to get Trump to agree to the same debate style from a friendly news Corp?

 

[invisibult plus+]

I've thought that Trump's real metagame victory in that debate was to embed this idea in popular consciousness - even as they were trying to refute it, the Dems got more people to repeat the line about "eating the cats." If they had any brains they should have memoryholed it ASAP, it's a gut punch that goes far beyond any policy discussion. It reflects the destruction of everything normal and wholesome in the country.

Pretty much. It sounds SoOo WaCkY but it’s true. Trump understands this kind of arrogance and knows how to take advantage of it.