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Hitler is trending on TikTok again — and they’re trying to make him seem like a nice guy​

Hitler is, once again, trending on TikTok. Speeches given by the Nazi Führer, translated into English and read by an AI in a stilted accent, have garnered millions of views on the platform.

Some users lip-synched to the speeches, others simply posted them with a darkened image of Hitler in military attire; most implied or openly stated praise for the speeches and for the Nazi leader.

Media Matters, a think tank that tracks hate speech online, reported that some of the sounds and videos have since been removed, after receiving hundreds of thousands or even over a million views each, but some accounts are still active and regularly uploading content.

The virality of the videos is another instance of TikTok’s struggles to moderate posts on its platform. Though its policies prohibit praising or sharing the manifestos of “individuals who cause serial or mass violence, or promote hateful ideologies,” users are often able to find ways around the rules or fly under the radar.

On TikTok, trending videos are grouped around “sounds,” snippets of audio that users can use as a backdrop for their own videos; sounds are relatively harder to moderate, given that the speaker is often hard to identify and the content doesn’t include openly prohibited terms such as slurs. The use of AI to read Hitler’s speeches in English allowed the speeches to be produced quickly and reposted in a slightly different version if they’re removed, avoiding TikTok’s regulations. From there, numerous videos can spread the speech by using it as a background sound for their posted videos.

The videos also rarely identify Hitler by name, often using euphemisms such as “the great painter” or “the Austrian painter” — a reference to his stalled art career — instead. And the content of the speeches used in the videos is not overtly hateful; the excerpts feature Hitler saying he did not want to go to war but was forced to, as well as discussing art and culture.

This tactic of using anodyne excerpts from Hitler’s speeches serves not only to evade moderation, however, but also to frame the Nazi as a maligned hero and an great leader. Some feature such captions as “what if he won” and “just listen.”

And while some comments express skepticism that Hitler was a good leader, many applaud the speeches, saying: “he is NOT the villain,” “AH was a good and kind man,” and “now I understand why they didn’t translate this before.”

This is not the first time something like this has occurred on TikTok; last autumn, Osama Bin Laden’s antisemitic “Letter to America” also went viral on the platform. Numerous users shared it, commenting their agreement with the inflammatory letter, which contains antisemitic conspiracies in addition to criticism of the United States.

The existence of this content on the platform is obviously dangerous and breaks TikTok’s own moderation rules. But it also serves as a gateway to more overt conspiratorial content; TikTok’s algorithm is skilled at directing people to more of what they seem interested in by suggesting similar search topics, and those automated suggestions are seemingly not subject to moderation in the way the videos are.

When Media Matters looked into the videos, they found suggested search terms popping up on videos, including “the painter English speech.” This shows that the algorithm is using the same coded language — referring to Hitler as “the painter” — to help direct users to more of Hitler’s translated speeches.

Not all of the videos made with the Hitler sounds, however, were supportive. Some used the sound of Hitler’s speech to mock the Führer, captioning them with jokes such as “when I pooped in the urinal in 3rd grade.”

Until TikTok improves its moderation, poop jokes may be the best defense against users attempting to popularize Hitler’s ideology again.
 
The thing is, though, the modern elites have equated intelligence and morality. A bad person can't be crafty or intelligent. He has to be crazy and stupid
They also project a lot so it's safe to assume they're crazy and stupid.
I stand by my point; Hitler sacrificed his people's lives for no good reason.
No good reason? Striking at what you perceive to be the reason for childhood prostitution in the capitol of your nation is 'no good reason'? Judge the guy however you want but Hitler is a direct consequence of what followed from WW1. Saying the guy did all that he did for 'no good reason' isn't just ahistorical it's a denial of basic humanity.

Fucking nobody on earth does much beyond scratching their ass for 'no good reason'. Serial killers, madmen, rapists, the worst and most malign minds on the planet themselves don't do shit for 'no good reason'. You might not like the reason, it might not make sense to you, but there's definitely what they perceive to be 'a good reason'.
 
I wonder how many arguments in favour of Hitler are going to bring up his economic policies?
You know, stuff like price control... the exact fucking thing Kamala wants to do.
But please, knowing this, tell me how non-Jewish citizens of Germany were doing just fine.
Feel free to tell me how Hitler's attack of private property and collectivising industry makes him a good guy.
Yeah, turns out when your history books focus on a the bad happening to one group, people assume it was good for everyone else.
If all it takes for you to like someone is some bombastic speeches, than you probably don't hang up on random calls from people with Indian accents.
Dumb. Fucks.
 
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No good reason? Striking at what you perceive to be the reason for childhood prostitution in the capitol of your nation is 'no good reason'?
You're being obtuse. He started a fight and lost. When faced with imminent and certain defeat the honorable and responsible thing to do is surrender and accept whatever terms you have to in order to spare your people unnecessary harm and death. I say the same of groups like Hamas or Hezbollah.

This is what you would do if you actually valued their lives. Of course, much like the leaders of Hamas or Hezbollah, Hitler did not genuinely value the lives of his people so instead he consigned them all to mass murder, rape, and sacking by the Soviet horde because the worth of that all-important blood and soil is apparently nothing against the weight of one man's ego.
 
No good reason? Striking at what you perceive to be the reason for childhood prostitution in the capitol of your nation is 'no good reason'? Judge the guy however you want but Hitler is a direct consequence of what followed from WW1. Saying the guy did all that he did for 'no good reason' isn't just ahistorical it's a denial of basic humanity.
By that logic you can say that because of some grievance from a few years ago Zelensky also has good justification for marching hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians into Russian minefields and artillery fire.
 
I don’t have TikTok or I would post some of the zoomer/alpha Austrian painter videos, very curious to see what they look like in reality and to see the profiles and people posting them.

Edit: and race/nationality
 
I don’t have TikTok or I would post some of the zoomer/alpha Austrian painter videos, very curious to see what they look like in reality and to see the profiles and people posting them.
This, but more Mexican-y.
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You're being obtuse.
No, I'm being nuanced. You're trying to pigeon-hole the discussion into one narrowly focused on his military conquest then using that to paint a picture of who the man was in his entirety.

Stop with the 'for no good reason' shit too, that phrase has minted more neon-yahtzees than anything Hitler or his cronies ever said and I'd appreciate the world having a few less of them, yeah?
By that logic you can say that because of some grievance from a few years ago Zelensky also has good justification for marching hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians into Russian minefields and artillery fire.
Explain, then. Because I'm not following how the comedian stooge of the U.S. compares to the guy who had to live through Weimar Germany and its horrors.
 
No good reason? Striking at what you perceive to be the reason for childhood prostitution in the capitol of your nation is 'no good reason'? Judge the guy however you want but Hitler is a direct consequence of what followed from WW1. Saying the guy did all that he did for 'no good reason' isn't just ahistorical it's a denial of basic humanity.

Fucking nobody on earth does much beyond scratching their ass for 'no good reason'. Serial killers, madmen, rapists, the worst and most malign minds on the planet themselves don't do shit for 'no good reason'. You might not like the reason, it might not make sense to you, but there's definitely what they perceive to be 'a good reason'.
Hitler started attacking other countries because his shitty economic policies were running his nation into the ground and the first thing a hungry man steals is food off the plate next to him.
Fuck off with this whole attempt of nobility and "muh nation being raped by the hands of blah blah blah". He fucked up his economy and ended up paying the price at the end.
 
No, I'm being nuanced. You're trying to pigeon-hole the discussion into one narrowly focused on his military conquest then using that to paint a picture of who the man was in his entirety.
"People are complicated, man. Sure my neighbor might be a pedophile, but he also coaches girl's volleyball and volunteers at his church. You can't just make black and white judgements of a person's character y'know?"

Fuck off lmao
 
Explain, then. Because I'm not following how the comedian stooge of the U.S. compares to the guy who had to live through Weimar Germany and its horrors.
Ukraine between 1990 and 2000 was about Weimar-tier. Child prostitution and all. Lots of British tourists came around. Ukraine believes (incorrectly) it to be Russia's fault. Does that give Zelensky (who lived through that time period) justification to march hundreds of thousands of people to their deaths in a futile battle against Russia?
 
Hitler started attacking other countries because his shitty economic policies were running his nation into the ground and the first thing a hungry man steals is food off the plate next to him.
Fuck off with this whole attempt of nobility and "muh nation being raped by the hands of blah blah blah". He fucked up his economy and ended up paying the price at the end.
"People are complicated, man. Sure my neighbor might be a pedophile, but he also coaches girl's volleyball and volunteers at his church. You can't just make black and white judgements of a person's character y'know?"

Fuck off lmao
You're right, he was just the biggest, worst, stinkiest doo-doo head and any attempt at nuance is just apologia.

Holy shit you niggers are special. Enjoy losing the war.
 
You're right, he was just the biggest, worst, stinkiest doo-doo head and any attempt at nuance is just apologia.

Holy shit you niggers are special. Enjoy losing the war.
Yeah, yeah. Flip the fucking table and storm off. Don't care.
I have no desire to portray Hitler in any light, good nor bad.
But if you think I'm going to sit by and let people prop up a Socialist, you're cooked.
The war on private property was real and the consequences were even more so.
 
This is really all I care about. I was issued a challenge to make a case for Hitler being a devil without mentioning the holocaust.

Yes I know and I'm here to point out that you are grasping at straws and not doing very well.

Go ahead play your ace, I don't care man (I mean you are playing it defacto every time you bring up the omission anyway). The Americans interned the Japanese and if the Germans bombed us like we bombed them in Dresden there would be a lot of starved japs in Arizona and shit. The Japs were beyond brutal to the Chinese and the Philips. I don't know if there is a worse fate in WWII than being in the Russian army, never mind being captured by them. Think about it for a minute, we nuked Japan while we were winning, imagine what the narrative would be had the Germans won, imagine what we would have done if the war actually reached our shores at any point outside of Perl Harbor. But "Ohh boo hoo muh 250 thousand 6 million Jews died in a war that killed 85 million people! Let's lie to ourselves for a century so we can repeat the same mistakes and learn nothing!" Look around, the wheel is spinning and this time we aren't going to fight the mid-century Germans, we are going to be the mid-century Germans.
 
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Truth hurts.
I can just picture someone trying to portray Zelensky with the same level of "nuance" in 70 years. "So what if he was a loser who gave away his country to Russia, a degenerate who got his own people killed, and a clown that played piano with his dick? He did good things too!"

Sometimes a clown is just a clown, bros.
 
Hitler started attacking other countries because his shitty economic policies were running his nation into the ground and the first thing a hungry man steals is food off the plate next to him.
Fuck off with this whole attempt of nobility and "muh nation being raped by the hands of blah blah blah". He fucked up his economy and ended up paying the price at the end.
Weren't his shitty economic policies also one of the main reasons why Germany lost the war? Unlike the US and the Soviet Union, Germany utterly lacked the factories capable of building its planes/boats/tanks/etc. & Hitler wasn't wise enough to build up Germany's manufacturing sector before declaring war on the rest of Europe. Germany only went into full war production around 1943!
 
I can just picture someone trying to portray Zelensky with the same level of "nuance" in 70 years. "So what if he was a loser who gave away his country to Russia, a degenerate who got his own people killed, and a clown that played piano with his dick? He did good things too!"
I'll withhold judgement until I see the actual outcome of the war, but I would hold Zelensky to the same standard I raised above.
When faced with imminent and certain defeat, capitulation is more honorable and righteous than condemning your people to death and ruin, all so that you can avoid having to say "We lost" for a little while longer.
 
I'll withhold judgement until I see the actual outcome of the war, but I would hold Zelensky to the same standard I raised above.
When faced with imminent and certain defeat, capitulation is more honorable and righteous than condemning your people to death and ruin, all so that you can avoid having to say "We lost" for a little while longer.
Putting Zelensky aside, can just compare how Germany ended WW1 under Wilhelm II to how Germany ended WW2 under Hitler. As in, Germany was still a real country at the end of WW1, despite losing.
 
Yes I know and I'm here to point out that you are grasping at straws and not doing very well.
In what way? I've made a case for Hitler being a devilish person that cannot be conclusively invalidated, all without mentioning the holocaust.
Feel free to disagree if you need to, but I consider this a challenge cleared.
 
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