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I’ll try to keep this as short as possible I 24F and my fiance 25M had a rather large disagreement this morning. While I was brushing my teeth and using the bathroom my fiance placed our daughter to watch her show in her high chair and then just proceeded to watch tik toks for the next approx 10-15 minutes straight while my daughter waited. I finally came out and saw this and asked why he hadn’t made any breakfast for her yet… he proceeds to say “I was waiting to ask you what to make for her” (note: she is one and eats scrambled eggs on daycare days like today) I said that’s a lie you know what she eats by now. Anyways this comment sparked a disagreement between us because I vented about his lack of assistance in helping to get her or any of her belongings ready to go in the morning. His solution after getting frustrated with me was to tell me I need to “make him a list of what I would like him to do for her” and I refused as I said I don’t want to mother him as well and as her parent he should know what needs to be done (diaper changes, outfit, teeth brushing, daycare bottles cleaned and filled up, etc.) I tried explaining that as her mom no one ever gives me a “list” I simply look around or think about what needs to be done. So I guess my question is aita for refusing to make the list?
I liked this comment, although my advice would have been "Why did you have a kid with such a scrote? Leave him and take all of his money!":
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NTA
A lot of advice is going to tell you to communicate.
You did that.
Men do not change their behavior because of how a woman feels. He doesn't care about you feel because regardless of you being mad you're still going to do all/most childcare, make his life easier with chores as well, and he gets to regularly stick his dick in you. He has no incentive to change. Men change their behavior based on results of him getting what he wants. Watch him be eager to change when you cut off all sex that you're not 100% into meaning no sex out of love because you care for his needs. Watch him be eager to change when you stop all acts of consideration for him, cleaning after him, cooking for him, or doing his laundry. What he gets from your body and resources is what makes him change NOT your feelings. Too many women think men operate like she does and will change when he hears his partner is sad or hurt by his behavior. I want you sit back and think when has telling a man your feelings of being hurt by him ever resulted in him stopping.

Men care more about what others, especially men, think of him than he ever will care about your feelings. Start telling your friends, his friends, and both families over how he didn't know what to make his own daughter for breakfast. Bring up his lacking involvement every time you gather. Watch him be quick to change his behavior. Countless men are more concerned about being seen as a good guy than being a good guy.
 
Men do not change their behavior because of how a woman feels. Men change their behavior based on results of him getting what he wants.
Fucking accurate. Depressing because it underscores how sociopathic most men are and how pointless it is to treat them like full human beings. But it's the only way to survive a relationship with a moid.

There's not a single inaccurate word in Malefìcent's comment. Absolutely nails it.
 
how sociopathic most men are
Preach!

I hate the "women need to communicate better" line that men continuously trot out.
They blame us for being too social, having better support networks, for talking and gossiping "too much" but WE are also somehow the ones with the inability to communicate?
Moid lies!

The other thing that sends me into fits of laughter is the "vulnerability" line as well.
I can't remember which sausagefest cope thread I was reading earlier (?AskMen) but it was a bunch of them crying that their GFs/wives didn't let them be "vulnerable" or had punished them for showing weakness.
This is another moid lie.
They claim that their girlfriends/wives changed after they divulged something that was upsetting them but in my experience this is never the case.

If women give them space (which they ALWAYS moan they don't get) because they were upset then she's "being weird" and "not being understanding enough". Which they will cry about until the end of time and use it as an excuse for why they can't "communicate".

If women show empathy, kindess, or understanding, they will lash out with sulking, aloofness, violence, or cheating.
They consider it emasculating that a woman saw them "weak" and need to show that they're a "real man".
 
damn, Maleficent-bottle took no fucking prisoners. I’d add onto the last paragraph, that “Countless men are more concerned about being seen as a good guy than being a good guy”, that they care in particular about being seen as such by other men. I wish I could find it again, but I recall someone on twitter (very likely Anna Slatz) sharing a quote about how the emotional focus of men’s life is always other men, it is other men they value and admire, they‘re the ones they look up to, that they want to impress and please. It’s never, ever women.
 
I hate the "women need to communicate better" line that men continuously trot out.
Especially its most commonly seen variety, the "why won't she turn me down directly instead of lame excuses like saying she's too busy to date?"

It's such bullshit, because how did the moid decide to ask her out? He thought she was interested in him. Sure, ok, why did he think this? Did she communicate directly with him? Did she say "I really like you and I'd like to spend more time alone together"? "You're great company, and we should date"? "I'm really lonely and could use a boyfriend just like you"? Fuck no. (We're not that autistic anyway.)

Moids are forever trying to imagine ways in which one little smile or glance from an attractive women is her signalling her interest to him. Go look at any forum on the internet where men are asking women for advice. It will be fucking filled to the brim with men asking if some totally inconsequential act from a woman is a sign she's interested in him.

So when it comes to interest in a man, something he wants, he will make the most mind-bending illogical leaps to decide she likes him. But when it comes to disinterest, something he doesn't want, he won't accept anything but the most autistic, overtly stated with fucking bells and whistles response.

Fuck this 'communicate better' bullshit. You get the same standards that you set. If 'subtle clues' were enough for you to decide to ask a woman out in the first place, then subtle clues are enough for you to determine she's not interested. Stop being so disingenuous.
 
I went down a very blackpilling rabbit hole this morning via Instagram:

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Don't fake orgasms ladies, they need to know they are shit in bed.
Tell every woman you know that they're shit in bed.

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"My nigel isn't like that" - yes, he is.

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Look up "Extinction Burst".
Men are panicking. Hold the line.

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Some humor as palate cleanser:

(Apologies if these have been posted before!)

Have a great day everyone!
(except the moid lurkers)
 
Louder for the tradwives and pick-mes in the back. ALWAYS have your own money and always, always, ALWAYS have an escape route because moids can and will fuck you over at a moment's notice if that's what they decide to do. You're not going to stay a young, hot, conversative blonde forever.
 
Ngl the sexual assault in the most recent season was beyond the pale in how comically it was handled,
Yeah exactly everything you said is stupid as fuck and a non-issue. You are the problem. You have unironically called fingering the gills of a rapist sexual assault.
In a later episode it's revealed Hughie's gf is actually a shapeshifter and he's been banging this shapeshifter under false pretenses (again rape)
That’s not rape that’s sexual assault, women can’t rape men. Rape is a specific term for specific non-consensual sexual acts involving a penis. It is extremely important people have accurate words for male violence. Many men IRL would not give a fuck if this happened to them, and if Hughie doesn’t feel violated, idgaf. Endless spy movies where people have to have sex. If that isn’t also rape, then I don’t want it to hear the hand-wringing from redditors. I hate to be all, it’s fiction, but it’s fiction.

The point I was making, is this has no real world impact. People will watch this and find it funny because it’s not real.
Mixed in with the typical over-the-top stuff (cake farting, tickling)
We are talking about cake farting. I do not care if other men find the idea of men farting on a cake to maintain cover funny.
and Tek preparing to cut Hughie open (once he discovers his identity) to make new holes to fuck
So what? This doesn’t happen and is just to up the stakes for his escape.
CEO lady rubbing her vaginal discharge on Hughie's face
Gross- out humour that is nothing new whatsoever. The same people are pretending to care about this then logging online to masturbate over a woman getting raped on camera. NO ONE talking about these scenes bitched for even 1 second about the Stilwell (female CEO, murdered with her baby season 1), they don’t care, they just want to “male sexual assault isn’t taken as seriously as women” and women are expected to care about this while rape has been de facto decriminalised. You should spend less than zero time caring or talking about this.
Kripke was taken aback when questioned on his decision to portray Hughie's assault as humorous,
Homelander is a rapist and a joke character that everyone loves. The Deep is a rapist that is a joke character with a lot of screen time. That is the show. Hyper-realistic things happen that don’t mean the same as they do IRL. Starlight spread pedophilic rumours about Firecracker and says sorry once, then uses that as a distraction to beat her up. And she is the shows hero.

You either understand the point I’m making, which is this is not women’s problem, or not. If men want to actually care about this, no problem, they can shut the fuck up about playing the victim regarding women issues though. Otherwise they do not care at all and just want to pretend to virtue signal.
 
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Louder for the tradwives and pick-mes in the back. ALWAYS have your own money and always, always, ALWAYS have an escape route because moids can and will fuck you over at a moment's notice if that's what they decide to do. You're not going to stay a young, hot, conversative blonde forever.
There is a video about Male Bonding and PickMe's explaining how dangerous it is to be a PickMe because males will always attack a woman before they attack other males.

It also goes into why PickMe's are so dangerous for other women to be around:

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There is a video about Male Bonding and PickMe's explaining how dangerous it is to be a PickMe because males will always attack a woman before they attack other males.

It also goes into why PickMe's are so dangerous for other women to be around:
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The Yv edit is amazing, and is the only reason for tiktok. Woman is a fucking star.

Pickmes aren't only dangerous to themselves, they are dangerous to other women. They will throw you under the bus in their defense of men. Never ever EVER trust a woman who betrays a woman in defense of a moid. The first time she does it, drop her. Minimise contact, polite disinterest, whatever. Don't even tell her what you're doing and why. Just go.

Not even a powerlevel, because I'm sure this story has been repeated in every single country, over every single generation, since the dawn of time:
Friend was living with some moid who was slowly but surely turning more aggressive to her. None of us knew about it at first, he seemed fine, showered, had a job, was normal in social interactions (just very boring to talk to), but she started telling us little bits and pieces here and there about how he'd have a bad day and she'd have to walk on eggshells to avoid upsetting him and getting yelled at. She obviously felt ashamed, so fuck knows how long it took before she even started talking about it. Why she stated telling us is because her eggshell walking stopped working, and she was trying to work out what she was doing wrong.
Useless retard pickme 'friend' told her husband, who was besties with abusive moid, and while I don't know exactly what she told him, my money's on her telling him some really slanted bullshit. Her husband tells abusive moid, which I'm sure, Chinese whispers style, only got more slanted in each retelling. Abusive moid shits himself, and is furious with girlfriend for her disloyalty and betraying him and making him look bad.

I don't know if this was the tipping point, but around this time, it got physically abusive, according to her. I don't know the details, because shocker, she wasn't telling anyone much of anything anymore and I really didn't want to get involved in this shit, but at some point a few months later, I got some 3am phone call from this now very teary friend, they had had a serious row at the pub, both of them got thrown out, he stormed off, and she was too scared to go home, could she stay with me the night.
She stayed for almost three weeks, which was a bit uncomfortable to suddenly have a surprise housemate who was really emotionally on edge, she had no clothes or belongings with her other than her party clothes from that night so we had to do a dodgy visit to their shared flat in the middle of the day after we were sure he was at work, and it was a lot of bullshit I didn't want to be included in. Going to their shared flat was fucking terrifying, and I was scared shitless he was going to turn up.
She stays with me for three weeks, then went back to her hometown to stay with her parents, and then joined some cruise company where you live and work at sea on a cruise ships for months. Sounded like nightmare employment, but in the circumstances, I get why you'd take a job like that. She upended her life to avoid this man, while he got to go on as normal.

Anyway, the kicker is that not long after she left on her cruise job, her abusive moid shows up at my door, supposedly all sad and shit (and definitely drunk), wanting to know where abused friend/his ex girlfriend was. He was sorry, realised his mistakes, and wanted to be better. Nervous but also furious, I asked why the fuck he was here. Useless pickme 'friend' had told him where friend was (thank fuck pickme was wrong and had no idea she had even moved back with her parents and was currently on a big boat somewhere in the middle of the ocean). She wasn't answering her phone calls, and he was worried about her, and just wanted one chance to talk. (The fucker never called the police to report her missing, so he wasn't that concerned.)
I later found out useless pickme had decided abusive moid really was sorry, abused friend was being too harsh, and if only he could be given the opportunity to talk to her, they could patch things up. So she asked other friend, other friend told pickme where she thought abused friend was, pickme told abusive moid, and now there's this drunk faggot at my door near midnight, wanting to have a super friendly chat with this lucky woman, and I was in the way of his admirable goals.

Women are so insanely accommodating and bleeding heart, and their do-gooding is so well meaning but can be so fucking misdirected.

He fucked off that night and nothing ever came of it, but thanks to useless retarded pickme, not only was an abused woman potentially put in danger, I was now on this abusive faggot's shitlist for housing and protecting her. An absolutely insane moment in my life, and I lost most sympathy I had had for pickmes.

They'll never be as dangerous as a moid, and women are never to blame for male behaviour, but they're still dangerous. Not even worth the risk of friendship.
 
damn, Maleficent-bottle took no fucking prisoners. I’d add onto the last paragraph, that “Countless men are more concerned about being seen as a good guy than being a good guy”, that they care in particular about being seen as such by other men. I wish I could find it again, but I recall someone on twitter (very likely Anna Slatz) sharing a quote about how the emotional focus of men’s life is always other men, it is other men they value and admire, they‘re the ones they look up to, that they want to impress and please. It’s never, ever women.
I don't think moids are quite so loyal to each other, otherwise women would still be way more oppressed and have no rights. There are definitely males who care more to impress women than they do other males, because only women can give them access to reproduction and men will go so far as to murder other men in order to secure their genetic legacy. I think it is mostly low IQ men who structure their entire life inside of a male hierarchy, which is why the military is so attractive to low IQ men and prisoners, niggers and petty criminals always have this big empathis on "respect and loyalty" between men, but it's all really a meaningless facade cause they turn on each other constantly. There isn't any benefit to being loyal to other men, other than getting away with crimes. Moid loyalty is very fickle because in the end they are all selfish and will do what benefits themselves the most over what benefits the moid community.

There has to be a reason why women in countries with higher IQ's have more rights than women in countries with low IQ's where "honour among men" is valued the most.
 
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You are a really amazing friend for doing that.
Incredible ❤️
You saved her life
They will throw you under the bus in their defense of men. Never ever EVER trust a woman who betrays a woman in defense of a moid.
Agreed 💯%
PickMe's can really fuck you up psychologically with their betrayal too.
There is a chance that you turn into a PickMe for safety (because you mistakenly believe that only men are "trustworthy") or you become too frightened confiding in other women thus losing your one of your greatest safety nets.

I had a few PickMe friends in High School.
One girl liked to tell the guys in our group/in the periphery of our social circle everything you said, especially anything embarrassing.
The worst ones were the few girls who got jealous at any male attention you got even when it was clearly inappropriate and dangerous (like stalking).
I wasn't "lucky" because moids refused to accept my "No" and kept showing up at places where they knew I'd be.

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Isn't that because when women have rights, they are the ones doing the mate selection, which naturally results in higher IQ offpsring?
I think this is mostly the reason but I also think that higher IQ men know that having loyal women in their life is much more beneficial than having the respect of other men. Women make a man's life more comfortable and better overall, hence "happy wife, happy life". Men don't really do much for each other. Women are also inherently self sacrificial and they will always do what is best for the family unit instead of what only benefits themselves. Plus having a wife and children automatically comes with respect from other men.
 
You are a really amazing friend for doing that.
Incredible ❤️
You saved her life
I'd love to take credit for it, but it was all her. I was just there to open the door.
She probably put up with his bullshit for a bit too long, but when her intuition told her not to go home with him that night, she listened.
Barely a few days into staying at my place, she was crying almost constantly as she realised just how tense her life had been living with him, and I think she finally understood life doesn't have to be that way. It was like she had been holding back all these emotions, and as soon as she was given space, everything came out in an absolute flood. (Really. SO many tears.)
Full credit to her for recognising she deserved better, and for immediately making changes to give herself the happiness that she deserved. A woman's intuition is the greatest gift she has, a legacy from every female ancestor before her, and I genuinely hope every single one of her great great grandmothers are looking down on her now as they watch her have an absolute blast and live a good life.

And fuck that pickme. I don't hate her, but I also kind of hate her, if you get what I mean.
 
Yeah exactly everything you said is stupid as fuck and a non-issue. You are the problem. You have unironically called fingering the gills of a rapist sexual assault.
Your fixation on me using "rape" in a few points instead of "sexual assault" is so bizarrely autistic (this is a gossip forum and not a fucking police station or courthouse) and your statement that nonconsensually shoving your fingers into someone's orifices and masturbating while they tell you to stop is not sexual assault is so baffling that I am not going to bother addressing the bulk of your angry post.
You either understand the point I’m making, which is this is not women’s problem, or not. If men want to actually care about this, no problem, they can shut the fuck up about playing the victim regarding women issues though. Otherwise they do not care at all and just want to pretend to virtue signal.
I thought the point of my post was quite clearly stated, but here it is again for you:
However the important thing to take away from all this is that it is the male showrunner (Kripke) who thinks male sexual assault is funny. It is always men downplaying the assault of other men.


Pickmes aren't only dangerous to themselves, they are dangerous to other women. They will throw you under the bus in their defense of men. Never ever EVER trust a woman who betrays a woman in defense of a moid. The first time she does it, drop her. Minimise contact, polite disinterest, whatever. Don't even tell her what you're doing and why. Just go.
Pickmes are incredibly dangerous and I didn't realize until later in life. It's easy to dismiss them as just looking for male attention, but many of them are willing to actually harm women or help men harm women. You did a good thing by helping your friend.

A good friend of mine found out her husband was cheating on her with her male coworker; I think I've talked about her in this thread. He bullied her into moving out while he kept the house. She foolishly had agreed to an amicable split, and she needed some paperwork and other things from the house and he refused to cooperate. I convinced her to come with me to their house while he was on vacation, and we went through the whole house and got everything she needed (we even went up into the attic and got down all the decorations she wanted). I was not afraid of this guy becoming violent, but I was armed and he was across the country. Can't imagine how nerve-wracking it would be to have been afraid he could be violent, and stopping by the house while he was only at work.
 
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