The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Meriasek]

Damn
If you run nvidia-smi in the terminal, does it output anything?

Honestly, I would have recommended Mint if I knew you were going to be stuck in NVIDIA driver hell; it has a similar driver manager utility to that of Ubuntu's.

Well, at this point I expect Linux to not work I was considering Mint, Debian, or OpenSUSE, and ultimately went for OpenSUSE due to various factors and opinions from other users I know. I'm sure it's gonna work properly at some point, at least it's working decently now and stuff like Reaper already work. The rest is work in progress.
I'll see about the terminal output later.
/edit: terminal says driver version 550.107.02.
There's apparently a newer one available. Dunno how I ended up with a slightly earlier one.
/edit2: OK nah driver should be fine. Window animations are still kinda laggy and choppy. There's no input lag or anything, it's all fast and responsive and video playback works fine, tho. Just window animations.
/edit3: well, for now I turned of Compositor, fancy animations are gay anyway.

 

[Jeff Q. Anime]

Torrents specifically are bitrot resistant, when you tell the client to verify a file it will checksum each chunk and redownload any that don’t match the manifest.

And who does that on a regular basis?

And what about when you're the last one left?

it's downright irresponsible.

 

[Meriasek]

Hm, some themes even have semi-usable global menus. Nice. Installing Steam to see how bad game performance would be.

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

Just installed QGIS 3.38 Grenoble and Python wouldn't load until I realized that I was still in a venv from some other small project mentioned earlier. deactivate was all I needed. Damn I feel retarded right now.

 

[jONALD]

The Internet was down for most of the weekend but I still had power. After finally exhausting any cleaning I can do, I did what any sane person would do. I cracked open my barely read K&R second edition. I have no idea what the fuck I am doing besides making people seethe I didn't start on something easier but its got a hook in me after I made the Fahrenheit to Celsius table appear in Xterm.

 

[Captain Wetbeard]

Well, at this point I expect Linux to not work

I'd recommend Garuda since it's the easiest to set up Arch distro. The AUR usually has better support for uncooperative hardware than what you get from debian based distros.
Arch based distros sound daunting, but Garuda really is almost as beginner friendly as Mint, and you can even get it with Cinnamon which is the default Mint desktop environment.

 

[Meriasek]

I'd recommend Garuda since it's the easiest to set up Arch distro. The AUR usually has better support for uncooperative hardware than what you get from debian based distros.
Arch based distros sound daunting, but Garuda really is almost as beginner friendly as Mint, and you can even get it with Cinnamon which is the default Mint desktop environment.

I will never use Arch, because every single Linux question or conversation will have at least one instance of mentioning Arch. Arch users are so incredibly obnoxious that I refuse, on principle, to ever use Arch or anything Arch-derived.

 

[Another Char Clone]

The Internet was down for most of the weekend but I still had power. After finally exhausting any cleaning I can do, I did what any sane person would do. I cracked open my barely read K&R second edition. I have no idea what the fuck I am doing besides making people seethe I didn't start on something easier but its got a hook in me after I made the Fahrenheit to Celsius table appear in Xterm.

C being succinct enough to just "get it" from reading a single book is why it's so ubiquitous. There's no ever expanding list of paradigms or funny new capabilities. C99 is basically complete, some even say C89 was fine for most tasks. There's newer stuff in C11 or C23, but I haven't seen anyone relying on them for anything serious. Other higher level languages or libraries exist if you want fancy things like templates, threads, containers and such. Most nu-programmers can't understand that something can even considered "complete".

 

[Squishie PP]

/edit3: well, for now I turned of Compositor, fancy animations are gay anyway.

Yeah, sounds like a KDE problem. It may not be using GPU acceleration for its animations for whatever reason, but I'm not too familiar with it.

I will never use Arch, because every single Linux question or conversation will have at least one instance of mentioning Arch. Arch users are so incredibly obnoxious that I refuse, on principle, to ever use Arch or anything Arch-derived.

The only Arch-based distro I have ever tried is EndeavourOS, and the only reason I used it was to get maximum compatibility with Steam's Proton compatibility layer (SteamOS is based on Arch.) It isn't too bad, but OpenSUSE is obviously much more stable.

 

[Captain Wetbeard]

I will never use Arch, because every single Linux question or conversation will have at least one instance of mentioning Arch. Arch users are so incredibly obnoxious that I refuse, on principle, to ever use Arch or anything Arch-derived.

I'm pretty sure that's how Windows and Mac users view Linux in general, since every tech conversation will have at least one instance of mentioning Linux.

 

[Squishie PP]

I'm pretty sure that's how Windows and Mac users view Linux in general, since every tech conversation will have at least one instance of mentioning Linux.

Mac users are just glorified phoneposters, I don't consider them even part of the equation. But as someone who came from Windows because of Microsoft's incompetence and utter lack of regard for user autonomy, it is hard to not recommend Linux to people when they have similar complaints about Windows.

Arch on the other hand, is a distribution for slightly more experienced Linux users that does not offer as much stability as Ubuntu, Mint, OpenSUSE, Debian, anything RHEL-based, etc. Recommending Arch-based stuff to people who are new to this is a surefire way to make sure they never come back.

 

[Meriasek]

I'm pretty sure that's how Windows and Mac users view Linux in general, since every tech conversation will have at least one instance of mentioning Linux.

True. Arch users are just the vegans of the Linux world.

 

[AmpleApricots]

You people are way too hung up about distributions.

 

[DavidS877]

You people are way too hung up about distributions.

This is the funny thing I encounter at work.
I've had places where they were all in on Vendor X, nooooo, not Vendor Y. And on servers it's just a handful of minor changes. "dnf or apt or yast or whatever arch uses but no one uses arch for servers" And some package name differences. I suppose after the first 30 years all distributions are basically the same.

I'll work with anything as long as they pay.

 

[Squishie PP]

You people are way too hung up about distributions.

I honestly don't care as much about specific distros. It is more that newcomers should be given Linux for Niggers instead of Linux for Whites/Trannies.

 

[the rat]

No getting rid of the workspace switcher either

Not sure if it's because of where you want to put the icons (though I was able to get them to the bottom just fine?) but you can disable the clip under WPrefs. It should normally come with WindowMaker but I think on some distros the path is wrong so it seems like it's not installed when trying to open it through the dock icon or menu
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D. There's no built-in way to see the user's programs list from ~/.local/, so moving your programs to the applications menu manually can be tedious on your first week.

Interestingly, WindowMaker under Debian seems to include some auto-include script for applications but it prevents you from modifying the menu.


WindowMaker is great, the only complaint I really have towards it is how it handles the dock. I don't like the idea of having one dock for pinned programs then another for unpinned/minimized programs, It'd be nice if there was a way to have that merged like how it is in MacOS. I guess I could just disable the main dock though lol.

 

[The Anarki Main]

you can disable the clip under WPrefs

Thanks! I figured this out on my own though the day after posting, just forgot to update it.

I've also found out how to hide program icons for good and only show the docked windows, but it seems like it only works on certain applications and you have to do it for each and every one.


I've gotten used to WM pretty fast. I'm trying to find out how to make my own dockapps though the documentation that's available is sparse these days.

It'd be nice if there was a way to have that merged like how it is in MacOS

If your pinned dock is in the top right then setting icon positioning to the top right as well seems to work. Not the bottom right though, since it seems like when there's a dock anywhere on the screen it is commited to taking up that entire row/column. I couldn't find a way to make the pinned dock anchor to anywhere else other than either the far left or far right of the Xinerama canvas.

True. Arch users are just the vegans of the Linux world.

That's more of a Gentoo thing.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

I could be crazy. But I swear in that last video I linked from him where I said he was coping and seething. He scoffed at the idea of the duplication of work having to be done because of how things are currently being implemented. Because he didn't seem to like the person he was making the video about.

But seems to be agreeing that it's an issue here in this newer video.

I could be completely misunderstanding. But it seems like this is the case.

 

[0gh]

Most of what's on the data pool will be movies and tv, where if I lose a drive it would suck but I can redownload the missing files as long as the rest of the files are complete

MergerFS then. You just want one file system for all drives without any nonsense, then mergerfs. Not one of my hdds ever failed so bad I couldn't recover data from it if I really needed it. In fact, none of my own HDDs actually used for the same purpose ever failed, only those I handled for various workplaces, and even for those no data was ever lost and could always be recovered.

The ones that become too old I chuck in external enclosures, mark them and use for very unimportant things, but even those are still alive. I have a small pile of dead SSDs on the other hand, but HDDs are sturdy fuckers. I still have and use a 2TB HDD from what, ten years ago? 0 issues, scrutiny and smart stats are great. I don't hold anything important on it just out of an abundance of caution, but that's a pretty good lifespan compared to horror numbers others are saying online like 3-4 years. I don't even have a single HDD in my servers that's newer than 3-4 years

Some people talk about hdds like you look at them wrong and boom they're unusable forever, but before a disk dies data starts getting corrupted, you get a lot of feedback from the disk and smart before you're really at any risk in the vast majority of cases. Use scrutiny and set up alerts and you basically have 0 chance of losing anything unless your houses catches on fire or there's physical damage.

If you're worried about losing your data, back it up. If your disks are in RAID, I don't think you can actually get the data off of them as easily as you could get it off of a regular disk with its own normal filesystem.

 

[std::string]

MergerFS then

The person you responded to wanted to speed up I/O though which I don't believe is possible with MergerFS.