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Ew, why am I not surprised at all with this info? I am not too familiar with this dude at all, In fact I am very blissfully ignorant of most breadtuber or kweer content creators because the moment I see them have some pretentious name my mind goes "Yeah I won't like this person
He was on a podcast with Contrapoints, talking about how evil JKR was. He will downplay any Troon malfeasance and his entire instagram is filled with copy and paste poses of him doing the splits with a middle finger foam finger, complete with your motivational retardation of the day. Him defending Heard, while despising Rowling is not lost on me. He's only pro "women who share the same opinions as me."
Not to go full Android Raptor over here, but I think if men were capable of giving birth then there’d be as many abortion clinics as there are McDonalds franchise chain
When the 2022 decision came down, a massively viral tweet - 400k likes - carefully reminded people that it "wasn't just women who can get pregnant." Well, if trans men are men, and men can get pregnant now, there should be clinics everywhere...but no. It's almost as if actual men don't buy it.

Had to post this on a thread about Charlie Kirk defending the right of a pedophile rapist to impregnate his ten year old daughter:
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Reminder: Emmett Till's father raped Italian women while in the American military and was hung for it. Like father, like son.
see this notion of "Ancient Christian societies did abortion" all of the time but I've never seen it actually get sourced. This thread is admittedly starting to make me reconsider my 100% pro-life views, but does anyone actually have any backing for this? I'd like to have some kind of biblical backing for this.
Sure.
"Abortion in Early Modern Italy" is one title, it's available on the Z library.
"Abortion in the Early Middle Ages" - Zubin Mistry
And stuff by John Riddle, he goes into the history of contraception. "Eve's Herbs" is one title.

The book used during the Roe v Wade overturning was one by Joseph R. Dellapenna, 1400 pages. These other books are shorter reads and more nuanced. Mary Ziegler has a few books, but her one on the history of Roe was very disappointing. It was not very in depth and yes, it used "pregnant people." Pathetic.
 
They be all anti-choice, but show them a pic of some particularly unfortunate nature's typo that would be far better off aborted, and ask them if they'd want to switch bodies for a week.
If anyone is ever actually planning on doing this in an autistic internet debate alobar holoprosencephaly would be an effective choice. Wikipedia puts the photos of real babies that had it right at the bottom of the article so you can read the whole thing without having to actually see them because it’s real gnarly “oh god kill it before it lays eggs” tier stuff.
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Ringwald is a handmaiden now. She sucks Troon cock and will do anything to make transwomen feel safe. Same with Gloria Steinem and, IIRC, the author of "Against Our Will".

Funniest thing about Teen Wolf is the most of the fanbase doesn't even give a shit about the female characters. Stiles/Derek dominates, because it's okay to be an asshole provided you're fucking a weird skinhead twink.
I meant the 1985 movie with Michael J. Fox.Fuck, am I old? In the movie, Scott (protagonist) has a crush on the blonde Stacy and gets bullied by her jock boyfriend. Scott's meek female friend, Boof, has a crush on him but he ignores her advances until the end of the movie (and this is when Stacy (that's not her name, I just forgot) falls for Scott and he rejects her Take that, gold digging femoid!)
WM/AF is more common than BM/WF and they create little hapa incels like Elliot Rodger too but it's white women who are destroying the white race somehow. Although at the same time I don't blame Asian women born in the west for not picking Asian men when they have actual options now. Chink and Indian men are among the worst moids out there.
Asian American men want white women, though, but will settle for Asian (especially to please their parents). What makes hapas uniquely insane? I know many mixed people but I don't know a single normal hapa, at best they're harmless spergs with an inferiority complex about their race or they're absolute basket cases. I have some theories (both parents fetishize each other, geriatric white sperm, racist father with a self hating mother) but these can be true for other mixed people as well. Maybe white and Asian couples tend to have all three more often than not?
I always say if someone made a gimmick account called "Redpillers posting their cuckold fantasies" they would never run out content.

No it's DA JOOS!!!
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>jews control the world
>what if it's been Indians the whole time?

If you think white women nag, you've never met a nagging Asian lady. They'll never stop, and they'll make sure you go in to work that day. These white scrotes who think they're getting Asian pussy are going to be judged by her family members because they know what he is: a sex tourist who thinks Asian women aren't going to stab him in the back.
White men always forget the Tiger Mom/Dragon Lady stereotype isn't just a stereotype.
The fact that men in positions of power are saying deranged shit like this and it is taken seriously in legislation is horrifying. This scrote cares more about a hypothetical rapist's best interest than his hypothetical daughter's. If she went to her family for support after experiencing something as deeply traumatizing and life-ruining as sexual assault, his reaction would be "We're going to have the baby". He says he struggled with this question so he is aware of how fucked up it is but he ultimately came to the conclusion that forcing his daughter to give birth to the rapist's baby is the solution. What the fuck is wrong with him?
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>the only women I can feel empathy for are the ones that I have ownership over and are directly related to me
>yes I would force my hypothetical daughter to birth the hypothetical rape baby
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All I can do is laugh. That's so absurd and horrifying that it's almost funny.
It’s disgusting how the American right will make up lies about women getting post-birth abortions (basically, murdering their newborn infants) when no case of that has ever occurred in an American healthcare setting and is nowhere near legal in any state. They’re trying to paint women as monstrous baby-killers when nearly all late-term abortions are performed because the pregnancy is ectopic or the fetus isn’t viable. It’s extremely traumatic to the mother and it’s despicable that stupid, ignorant men have the gall to insinuate these women are murderers and think that women should be forced to carry a dead fetus. The lack of empathy completely astounds me.
I find it specifically fucked that the late term abortions get so much hate (reeee women abort babies for fun and convenience reeee murderous harlots reeeee) because these were the mothers that really wanted their children but unfortunately couldn't have them, but I'm wrong for expecting compassion and empathy from these kinds of men.
alobar holoprosencephaly
I looked up pictures of this and now I want every woman to have abortions all the time just to prevent this. :cryblood:
 
Far too many moids- and I may be giving the rest too much credit by assuming any of them have any semblance of real empathy towards women- just cannot understand *anything* unless it directly affects them.

Pregnancy, child birth, being post partum, etc, all mean jack shit because they will never, ever have to worry about it. Even rape/sexual assault is an abstract concept because who WOULDN'T want random surprise sex, mirite guys?? A baby, however, is a real tangible thing that their smooth monkey brains can understand and doesn't involve them having to concentrate really hard to try and put themselves into the shoes of another, especially those illogical, hysterical beings known as women.

I was thinking about this not long ago. With too many moids, you have to explain things exactly the same way you would to a small child. "How would you feel if little Billy broke your favorite toy? Would it make you sad?" Even then, they still don't always get it.
 
I was thinking about this not long ago. With too many moids, you have to explain things exactly the same way you would to a small child. "How would you feel if little Billy broke your favorite toy? Would it make you sad?" Even then, they still don't always get it.
They really dont have empathy. Any relationship they manage to uphold is transactional. If they cant gain anything from other people, they do not understand the point.

Ask a moid to explain why he loves his mother, or his wife, and if he can , he will list shit that she does for him.
 
Are we still doing our regular series of "Moids, Why The Fuck Can They Not Control Themselves In Public"?

I have another supermarket encounter today. Firstly: it is the middle of the day, I am in the fucking supermarket, why the fuck would I be in any way looking for dick. Dick is not in the Aldi specialbuys this week. I will not be getting a Tesco clubcard offer on dick. I am in the fucking supermarket buying fucking groceries. Leave me the fuck alone.
But I feel the need to add what I was wearing, because honest to God, how is it not possible to signal clearly to moids that I am not receptive to any offer of dick. I do not want your phone number, I do not want to have 'warm chatter' with you, do not fucking attempt to touch me, I do not want your sexual advances.

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IT'S LITERALLY A FUCKING ANKLE LENGTH BROWN SMOCK LIKE HOW CAN I LOOK LESS INTERESTED IN MOID APPROACHES

i was also wearing an enormous shapeless brown cardigan for warmth BUT NO THE MOID WAS NOT DETERRED

I even had my certificate of ownership, I mean my rings, on. Who the fuck is telling moids to cruise housewives in the supermarket ffs

I don't hate them for making an effort, even if off-base (and your dress was cute, nor should what you wear be evaluated/a factor; you weren't asking for anything regardless of what you had on). It's better than the retards who will not try to make conversation but then go home spinning internal stories about how women are so this or that. ...I'm a firm believer in talking to strangers. Now, if you gave normal humanly detectable signals you didn't want to chat, that's another thing, but I'm not going to hate on the three people left in the world who will actually come out of their phones and engage in the world around them.

Exception:
put their hand on my back or shoulders when brushing past when there's plenty of room
OK that's a certified creep.


My strategy for avoiding unwanted interactions with unknown males is to be closer to 50 than 40.
Lol, I'm past both of those and got hit up by a store clerk the other day. I make smalltalk with almost anyone, so all cool, but for my purchase he had to check my ID and was like waow you're only a couple years younger than I am. Then held onto my card making a show of doing the math, and yep, he was not much older than I am, but yes, I agree with him he looked at least a decade older. Sorry, man, gotta go. "Bye, sweetheart!". Lol.

You can't get too bothered by it. In the olden days, that's sometimes how people met and started something. I'm not going to be a snob about it or let it interrupt my focus on whatever I'm doing.

I'd rather a world where people talk to other humans in the flesh rather than don't. It's not always convenient or welcomed, but cutting a random convo short when you can't be bothered is a normal thing, too.

Not to go full Android Raptor over here, but I think if men were capable of giving birth then there’d be as many abortion clinics as there are McDonalds franchise chains.
Absolutely. And that applies to everything to do with reproductive responsibility and choices.

I can personally recall a period in my 20s when insurance companies started carving birth control out of their coverage (and I had very good insurance)...but would cover ED medication (then extremely new, late 90s). The dissonance.

And - though most insurers started going back to covering it after not too many years, that was $1800/year I paid (as a married woman at that time, tyvm) to be a responsible person who did not yet want a child.

It wasn't until the ACA in 2010 that most* insurers were Federally required to cover birth control. So hate Obama all you want, but the ACA did what it could to prevent and reduce the need for/ possibility of abortion even being on the table. And abortion being available in the context of birth control being readily available and affordable means it is far less likely to be needed.

* certain small employers are exempt from being required to provide employees with insurance coverage options that include birth control.

Now, the ACA only goes so far. Healthcare insurers are largely state-regulated, and as mentioned, there have been carveouts. Only 31 states also require insurers to cover contraception. And apparently, 25% of women who should not have to be paying for contraception are being charged (story included below bc it's the nyt and often paywalled)

Contraception Is Free by Law. So Why Are a Quarter of Women Still Paying for It?
Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont has called on a government watchdog to investigate. Here’s what you need to know.



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By Alisha Haridasani Gupta
June 26, 2024
Last week, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, chair of the Senate health committee, called on a government watchdog to investigate why insurance companies are still charging women for birth control — a move that thrust access to contraceptives back into the spotlight.
In a letter to the Government Accountability Office, the senator noted that insurance companies were charging Americans for contraceptives that, under federal law, should be free — and that they were also denying appeals from consumers who were seeking to have their contraceptives covered. Some experts estimate that those practices could affect access to birth control for millions of women.
Since 2012, the Affordable Care Act has mandated that private insurance plans cover the “full range” of contraceptives for women approved by the Food and Drug Administration, including female sterilizations, emergency contraceptives and any new products cleared by the F.D.A. The mandate also covers services associated with contraceptives, like counseling, insertions or removals and follow-up care.
That means that consumers shouldn’t have any associated co-payments with in-network providers, even if they haven’t met their deductibles. Some plans might cover only generic versions of certain contraceptives, but patients are still entitled to coverage of a specific product that their providers deem medically necessary. Medicaid plans have a similar provision; the only exception to the mandate are plans sponsored by employers or colleges that have religious or moral objections.

Yet many insurers are still charging for contraceptives — some in the form of co-payments, others by denying coverage altogether.

A Quarter of Women Are Paying Unnecessarily for Contraceptives​

In his letter, Senator Sanders cited a recent survey by KFF, a nonprofit health policy research organization, that found that roughly 25 percent of women with private insurance plans said they had paid at least some part of the cost of their birth control; 16 percent reported that their insurance plans had offered partial coverage, and 6 percent noted that their plans did not cover contraceptives at all. Additionally, a 2022 congressional investigation, which analyzed 68 health plans, found that the process to apply for exceptions and have contraceptives covered was “burdensome” for consumers and that insurance companies denied, on average, at least 40 percent of exception requests.
In a letter responding to Congress earlier this year, AHIP, a national lobbying group that represents insurance companies, noted that the group “will continue to partner with the Administration, Congress, and policymakers to ensure that consumers have affordable access to contraception consistent with the law.”
Despite the fact that the federal mandate has existed for more than a decade, companies continue to skirt the law because “these mandates are rarely enforced, and the penalties for ignoring them are relatively low,” said Anna Bahr, director of communications for Senator Sanders. Each time a company is penalized, it finds other ways to deny coverage, she said.
In 2015, a study by the National Women’s Law Center, a nonprofit legal organization, found that several insurance companies claimed they were not covering hormonal rings, intrauterine devices or patches because they covered another hormonal method: the birth control pill. That practice was a violation of the mandate and prompted the Obama administration to crack down.

Today, the complaints from consumers are slightly different, said Gretchen Borchelt, vice president of reproductive rights and health at the law center. The group has heard from women whose plans have a “try and fail” caveat, in which patients are expected to try specific products, usually oral contraceptive pills, until those “fail,” before they can get the contraceptive option they want and that their provider recommends for them.
Earlier this year, the Department of Labor, which is one of the three government agencies responsible for enforcing the Affordable Care Act mandate, called that practice “problematic.”
Insurance companies also frequently deny coverage for newer F.D.A.-approved contraceptives, said Alina Salganicoff, senior vice president and director for women’s health policy at KFF. The organization also found that companies might cover a birth control product, like an I.U.D., but deny coverage of the associated services, like insertion or removal, she said. According to a study published last summer, the portion of privately insured women who had paid nothing for their I.U.D.s or implants has been declining since 2015.

What to Do if You Are Charged for Contraception​

Talk to both your doctor and your insurance company and remind them that the law says you shouldn’t have to pay, Ms. Salganicoff said.
You can also call the National Women’s Law Center hotline, which will help you take a thorough look at your plan to figure out what the problem is, Ms. Borchelt said. Sometimes the hotline is able to help patients obtain reimbursements.

Consumers should also let their representatives know, she said, because complaints like these can often be investigated.
Complaints from consumers in Vermont prompted a two-year investigation into health insurance plans there that found that nearly 9,000 people had been wrongly charged for contraceptives. As a result, the state ordered insurance providers to issue $1.5 million in reimbursements last year.
“Public pressure helps a lot,” Ms. Borchelt said.
A correction was made on
June 26, 2024
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An earlier version of this article misstated the name of a lobbying group. It is AHIP, not Advocating for Health Insurance Providers.
The state-Fed interplay on this is complicated, but at least as of earlier this year there were efforts in flight Federally to ensure birth control was made fully available and without cost to all women.

But it is not yet, and it is 99.9% a woman's expense.

...In today dollars, that $1800/year I paid in 1998 is worth about double, so $3600 (though prices have probably dropped with competition and generics more available). At $1800-3600/year, that's $56,000 - $108,000 over a moderate 25-30 years of a woman's sexual activity/fertility. Without Federal action, those are expenses that would be borne almost 100% by women - another pink tax. If you're 46 and have 2 female children in school whose costs you cover, that's $5400 - $10,800/year that would be an out-of-pocket, after-tax expense, just to be responsible and accountable.

The alternative being, of course, abortion (shame), adoption out (shame), or single motherhood (shame shame and even more shame, plus incredible lifetime disadvantage, and not just in, but also significantly in, a material sense).

Men? In my state, child support starts at $50/month. To raise a whole child. No time required, less than a phone bill, limited duration.
 
I see this notion of "Ancient Christian societies did abortion" all of the time but I've never seen it actually get sourced. This thread is admittedly starting to make me reconsider my 100% pro-life views, but does anyone actually have any backing for this? I'd like to have some kind of biblical backing for this.

(P.S: Yes, I already know about Numbers 5:21. No, that's not about abortion.)
Ancient societies that were predominantly Christian did a lot of things you won't see mentioned/condoned in the Bible. Aborting pregnancies is one of those. Psalm 139: 13 - 16 is the closest I can think of, and even then that's not about ABORTION, but rather the author (King David) praising God for meticulously designing every part of him as he formed within the womb. It is up to the Christian to take the themes and teachings of the Bible and decide your own stance on abortion.

Today a man told me that a husband would never leave his sick wife (we were specifically talking cancer) and when I told him that the odds of a woman being divorced go up 6x when she gets a cancer diagnosis he literally refused to believe me. Said the guy would never live it down, friends and family would call him a scumbag, etc. Literally lol. No longer being physically attracted to your wife and/or having to take care of her are literal dealbreakers for men.
 
God, how is it not possible to signal clearly to moids that I am not receptive to any offer of dick.
I've had scrotes try to make a move when I'm pumping gas, in winter, covered head to toe for warmth. I looked more flannel than woman. Nothing deters the acursed bepenised creatures.

Sir, it is 30° f (-1.1°C) outside, I do not want to talk to you. I do not want to talk to anyone. It is cold. I want to get back in my car, turn on the heat, finish my errands and then go home to my warm house, and have a nice hot drink. None of those things will ever involve you or your penis.
 
I'm so sick of hearing about abortion. It's a right. Get the fuck over it. The effort should be focused on
  • + birth control
  • - rape
  • + responsibility
We did this already. Over & over.

Safe, legal & rare. Personal responsibility. Don't violate people.

The current discourse on this is sick. At least when people were arguing over this 30 tears ago and 70 years ago they weren't being so vile and nasty to each other. Men have turned into bitter little scolds somehow.
It's crazy how, within 50 years, things have changed and gotten so extreme on this issue. Once, you could find conservatives/Republicans who were pro-choice. Probably because they actually believed people shouldn't be in everyone's business. In fact, before Roe v. Wade, the South was the most lenient region on abortion, though a few individual states (not Southern) allowed abortion.
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The notes link to a couple of articles explaining the shift from anti-abortion being liberal and Catholic to conservative and Evangelical.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/how-abortion-became-divisive-issue-us-politics-2022-06-24/
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/6/2/451

There has been - sadly, likely only temporary - good news on this front though.

A judge in Georgia, Judge Robert McBurney, has struck down the states six week abortion ban, the ban that cost Amber Nicole Thurman her life, reverting it back to the pre-2022 abortion law. This makes Georgia, as of right now, the most lenient Southern state on abortion, alongside Virginia, and more lenient than many non-Southern states. Thurman had to travel to North Carolina, which has a ban at a dismal 12 weeks. Even so, NC is so overcrowded with women (often from other states, like Thurman) seeking abortion, that they could not see her in time to prevent her death. He wrote an opinion piece that totaled 26 pages, and contained many footnotes, which can be read in full here.

“Women are not some piece of collectively owned community property the disposition of which is decided by majority vote,” he wrote. “Forcing a woman to carry an unwanted, not-yet-viable fetus to term violates her constitutional rights to liberty and privacy, even taking into consideration whatever bundle of rights the not-yet-viable fetus may have.” Judge McBurney wrote that “it is not for a legislator, a judge, or a Commander from The Handmaid’s Tale to tell these women what to do with their bodies during this period when the fetus cannot survive outside the womb any more so than society could — or should — force them to serve as a human tissue bank or to give up a kidney for the benefit of another”.

“It is generally men who promote and defend laws like the LIFE Act, the effect of which is to require only women — and, given the socio-economic and demographic evidence presented at trial, primarily poor women, which means in Georgia primarily black and brown women — to engage in compulsory labor, i.e., the carrying of a pregnancy to term at the government’s behest,” the judge added.

He was also, interestingly, Republican appointed.

I guess you could chalk this development up to "one good scrote".
 
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Ancient societies that were predominantly Christian did a lot of things you won't see mentioned/condoned in the Bible. Aborting pregnancies is one of those. Psalm 139: 13 - 16 is the closest I can think of, and even then that's not about ABORTION, but rather the author (King David) praising God for meticulously designing every part of him as he formed within the womb. It is up to the Christian to take the themes and teachings of the Bible and decide your own stance on abortion.
Abortion was even commonplace in colonial America, and it was perfectly legal for a woman to take herbal remedies. Family planning had to be taken seriously because childbirth could be a death sentence for the mother and it was important that she could breastfeed her child up to a reasonable age (milk dries out when the woman becomes pregnant). Hell, Benjamin Franklin even included instructions on how to induce an abortion in a math textbook.

Abortions were not starting to be made illegal in the United States until the 1860’s, when physicians started taking over medicine with the establishment of American Medical Association, which excluded women. Midwives, who could be successful and were formerly pillars of the communities, were targeted by the AMA as “quacks”, and in 1857 the organization pushed a campaign to state lawmakers to ban the practice, with the excuse that “life begins at conception”. That’s how this all took off. It wasn’t religiously-motivated at all, it was because men wanted to gatekeep medicine and strip women from these roles. Abortion became even more vindicated after WWII, when gender roles were established and it was believed that women should be staying home having babies. Doctors could be legally imprisoned for performing abortions until laws began changing in certain states in the 1970’s, then the evangelicals came along in the 80’s with the “all life begins at conception” crap that was espoused by the AMA all those decades ago, and here we are now.

So if you’re all wondering why America is fucking psychotic when it comes to abortion, it all started because educated men were envious that women could have power in a field they sought to control.
 
Especially men who like 'impact play' and 'CN
BDSM is just getting off on violence and control.
Can confirm what they said about men into BDSM, especially when it comes to predators.
When I started to be groomed on social media (this was years after I initially started being groomed), that's when BDSM came into play, especially CNC in later years. In my experience, predatory men gravitate towards BDSM. I can only remember bits and pieces, but I especially remember the first man who groomed me on social media and the last man who groomed me on a different one. The first one I remember was into ddlg and was twenty-one when I was twelve. The last one was likely in his fifties and I was sixteen. He was into BDSM as well, though it was worse than anyone else who groomed me.
Sorry if there isn't much details related to the posts I quoted, accidentally triggered myself and trying not to give too much info about it. Point being, BDSM seems to be a common theme in grooming, often as a way to normalize said kinks/fetishes in sexual situations.
 
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I've tried to seek out the mystery of why men don't bother showing up to these obvious venues for meeting people
>Me spying on the thread
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Moid here, I'm going to see if this intel is good, will report back in a few months. I've already scoped out a local spot with different kinds of fun classes. I didn't even know places like this existed near me until I went searching.
 
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Came here to see if the McBurney opinion had been linked yet.

Turns out there is actually one based dude in Georgia. I don't know how that happened, but there's one. Maybe there is a flicker of hope amidst the blackpill.

You should read the opinion, it is based as fuck.

Re supermarket moidery: you know those jackets dogs can get that say "REACTIVE: no touch, no speech, no eye contact"? I want one of those. Normalise those. Normalise a LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE sign.
 
Can confirm what they said about men into BDSM, especially when it comes to predators.
When I started to be groomed on social media (this was years after I initially started being groomed), that's when BDSM came into play, especially CNC in later years. In my experience, predatory men gravitate towards BDSM. I can only remember bits and pieces, but I especially remember the first man who groomed me on social media and the last man who groomed me on a different one. The first one I remember was into ddlg and was twenty-one when I was twelve. The last one was likely in his fifties and I was sixteen. He was into BDSM as well, though it was worse than anyone else who groomed me.
Sorry if there isn't much details related to the posts I quoted, accidentally triggered myself and trying not to give too much info about it. Point being, BDSM seems to be a common theme in grooming, often as a way to normalize said kinks/fetishes in sexual situations.
I'm so sorry about that. I hope they both get a nasty case of cancer and die slowly and painfully.
 
My strategy for avoiding unwanted interactions with unknown males is to be closer to 50 than 40.
A withering stare and stone cold silence has always worked for me at any age. It's a socially unkind response to a socially inappropriate start, and I fucking LIVE for the awkwardness as he creeps back into whichever dark corner he emerged out of.
 
One thing I never quite understood with kink relationships (usually of the BDSM kind) is that you could do whatever cruel and degrading thing you wanted but as long as there's a safe word you could switch all of that off like a light and everything apparently goes back to normal. I've always had trouble believing that such behaviors didn't also spill into the day-to-day relationship and that it only stays in the bedroom.

For example, I had one friend who was into that kind of lifestyle (it was somewhat popular in the goth community at the time) but I also remember having to help her move her things out of one guy's house because he was abusive and did stuff like install keyloggers onto her computer because he was paranoid of her cheating on him.

Also, there was another guy (a friend of a friend of a friend) in his early thirties who was heavily into that scene because my friend above told me about his closet full of gear. He used to throw parties at his house all the time, and I attended some of them because I was young, broke and there was free food and drink. He seemed okay at first, but at one of these parties this girl who was about to turn eighteen was sitting in his lap and he was all over her and said to everyone aloud that he can't wait until her birthday like she was some kind of present he gets to unwrap. I'm guessing that the parties were a way for him to groom young girls into his lifestyle, so my opinion of him soured a lot. I ended up stealing a bunch of booze from him at the last one I attended and never went back.
 
I've always had trouble believing that such behaviors didn't also spill into the day-to-day relationship and that it only stays in the bedroom
Compartmentalisation. Something men do by second nature. It's how serial killers can go home to a family, philanderers can look their wife in the eye, and a man can fucking hate a woman but still enjoy having sex with her. They pack everything into separate boxes in their brain, not to be unpacked unless necessary, and never at the same time. It's why therapy is so much less successful for men, and why trying to talk things through with a moid is a fucking nightmare.

Women don't usually have this ability, because we treat the world and life as a whole, and everything is intertwined with at least something else. Men deride this as us being complicated, as though it's not life itself which is complex.

Women should avoid BDSM. If your man says he really needs it, let him find another man to do it with. BDSM will only fuck up your shit while your man gets his rocks off. Not worth it.
 
Ask a moid to explain why he loves his mother, or his wife, and if he can , he will list shit that she does for him.

This is a foolproof test tbh. If you've been dating for a few months and their answer is about how you service them, run.

Run and don't look back. This is the same moid that will throw a fit a la "she doesn't do anything" if you decide to have a rest day. The same moid who will not support you during pregnancy. The same moid will abandon you if you get chronically and/or terminally ill.

This is an appliance seeker and they must never be allowed to pass on their worthless genes.
 
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