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At this point, even the most staunchly pro-life women probably wouldn't even put abortion in their top three priorities if they made a list.
This is me. I'm very passionate about the topic but the way it is right now, letting states decide individually, is perfectly fine.

Are we going to get an explanation for the school shooter comment??? I thought I misheard him.
 
I called Vance winning early in the night btw and you DOOMERS gave me rainbows lol. Vance is a fucking tiger. He's slick, sharp, and knows his topics. I can also tell he took a lot of debate classes, the man knows how to pivot out of bad points and topics.
I give rainbows not because I think someone is unduly optimistic, but because I hope they end up being right.
 
After watching the debate without live posting, this was a pretty solid beatdown by Vance, as most expected.

Waltz looked like a crackhead half the time while furiously writing notes. :really:
Waltz is friends with school shooters.
Waltz believes in the 1st amendment, unless he disagrees with the speech.
Waltz wants to take away your guns, but supports the 2nd Amendment (as an avid hunter along with Kamala.) :story:
Calls himself a knucklehead
John McCain (God bless his tumor) and Dick Cheney were role models to Waltz.

Meanwhile Vance took questions in stride, always looked composed, didn't flinch.
He dealt with the J6 question very well.
Handled his abortion statements very well, didn't get flustered like Trump did.
Tackled the 2 issues that most Americans are concerned about, inflation, and illegal immigration.
 
Are we going to get an explanation for the school shooter comment??? I thought I misheard him.
The only logical explanation I can think of is that he meant to say "school shooting victims", somehow fucked it up and didn't say the last word, but thought he actually did.

It relies on Walz being retarded, so I can't entirely write it off. I fucking hate Clown World man...
 
This is me. I'm very passionate about the topic but the way it is right now, letting states decide individually, is perfectly fine.

Are we going to get an explanation for the school shooter comment??? I thought I misheard him.
He misspoke for… **checks notes** the 115,225th time in his entirely public career.

I expect no less from the career bureaucrat.
 
The real reason Trump chose Vance is really simple. Vance got elected by Trumps base in 2022 and they share a power base that Trump controls.

Vance CANNOT turn on Trump. His base of political power would collapse. He is too junior to have deep connections to the Republican party as well. Every other Republican can turn on Trump or think the rino party will support them. The Rino faction wont support Vance and he knows it.
 
I really liked how both Vance and Walz were cordial to each other. American politics is to toxic, and this was a low-tempo exchange.

That being said, Vance was on top of his game, and Walz floundered a lot. This was W for the American right.

For me I actually liked that Walz was somewhat willing to admit his opponment had good points - but then he'd steer all the way back to "Orange man bad" or other Democrat talking points he was coached to do by Kamala's campaign team. I think him and Vance might get along alright if they were not opposing each other in an election.

The one thing I will give Walz is he felt way more like an actual person rather than the fake politically produced personality we've seen Kamala have her entire run. I've yet to see a moment where it feels like Kamala's being real with anyone, like, ever.

I still think I wouldn't want him in the White House though because he's such a massive commie for reals. If they win, Kamala's gonna hide from all the world leaders, and Walz is going to send sternly worded letters unless you happen to be China or another commie run country.
 
After watching the debate without live posting, this was a pretty solid beatdown by Vance, as most expected.

Waltz looked like a crackhead half the time while furiously writing notes. :really:
Waltz is friends with school shooters.
Waltz believes in the 1st amendment, unless he disagrees with the speech.
Waltz wants to take away your guns, but supports the 2nd Amendment (as an avid hunter along with Kamala.) :story:
John McCain (god bless his tumor) and Dick Cheney were role models to Waltz.

Meanwhile Vance took questions in stride, always looked composed, didn't flinch.
He dealt with the J6 question very well.
Handled his abortion statements very well, didn't get flustered like Trump did.
Tackled the 2 issues that most Americans are concerned about, inflation, and illegal immigration.
If the school shooter line wasn't there my favorite from Walz would've been "I'm a knucklehead, I make mistakes, that's why I was voted into Congress!" or something like that and I don't think he realized how that sounded either.

It's almost as if he is saying that he was voted into power BECAUSE he is an idiot rather than despite.
 
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