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Do we know what Waltz was actually trying to say? School shooting victims? What a knucklehead!
Maybe he was playing into the mental health/"most shooters were bullied" ideas. Walz was trying to portray himself as compassionate and #godly enough to reach out to everyone, no matter how different.
 
Finally got through the fucking VP debate after fucking around at the dealership and trying to find a video to listen to on my drive home. All I can say is that listening to Walz is like listening to a teenager give a book report. Standout moment is when he was pressed on his stance on abortion, danced around the question, pressed to give a proper answer, and then danced around the question. It's amazing to me how someone who has been involved with politics since the Bush era is able to deliver speeches as swiftly as UPS and gives answers about as straight as Ted Haggard. Also, if anyone needs the mics cut off, it's the fucking "moderators".
 
I've got the same Walz fundraising email 3 times since the debate, of him crowing about how well it went and how they need $35 USD to defeat the evil darth trump and his something something whatever. They REALLY want to get that fundraising in before everyone hears about how bad it went.

6 total fundraising emails mentioning him in the past 24 hours from the Kamala team. 2 mentioning her.

I can't block them. I report them as spam and google ignores it and sends them straight through anyway. Meanwhile I just checked and I have... a good number of Trump fundraising emails that are auto-spammed, and I can't whitelist them.

Total Techbro Death cannot come soon enough. How long until the Pajeets decide they have the right to just start beating women in Silicon Valley until they're willing to fuck them?
 
Has ANYONE seen Kamala say a damned word one since the debate started? Anything? Any public statements, any video or photos of her watching the debate, any tweets of support? Anything?

Methinks she's handling it like Clinton handled 2016 -- drunk off her ass on cheap box wine. And yeah, Walz is beating the shit out of his retarded son tonight, guaranteed.
 
Jimmy Bowman-Hamel-Vance is a black hole of charisma who can only win a debate when his opponent is having a bad night. Again, his own electoral history says it all. Even Kamala did better in her elections. Dude will implode if he ever goes for the presidency unless his sugar daddy Thiel convinces the WEF and Bilderbergs to put him in office. I'm not gonna take the W for "my team", I'm going to criticize my team the same way I did when I used to watch football and my team would play like shit half the game and if they won they'd luck their way into a garbage 10-7 victory and promptly lose the next week. For some reason I was allowed to do that without being criticized.

"Doomer" is to the right what "conspiracy theorist" is to the left. I'm giving you previews. And given 2015 pre-Trump America might as well have been the 1950s with how free and conservative it was compared to today, maybe Trump might not be so good?
The ability to write MLA article length posts does not make you intelligent.
 
Media is trying to say the J6 question made Vance lose. I dont know anyone who gives any fuck about J6 who isnt already in the bag for anybody with a D next to their name.
This should tell you enough of how strong Vance came to be. Keep yapping about J6 and concede that he's compassionate about abortion and seems to have common sense in topics the Democrats keep painting Republicans as lunatics. The average voter will notice that and will realize that Vance isn't the "weirdo" Kamala tried to make him out to be.

It's also so fucking funny that the media has gone straight after him HARD because he's Trump's heir apparent, but they can't deny that he didn't do great tonight. A lot of them are actually praising him for him civility and for coming off as likable and genuine. This is a huge win for JD.
 
Holy fucking shit boys I feel incredibly bad for Walz. Anyone up for some armchair psychology? These people want us dead, our children brainwashed and raped, and would not stop at ANYTHING to humiliate us - and I feel genuinely incredibly bad for Walz getting his shit pushed in like that. I felt slightly bad for Biden before but this is next level.

What is wrong with me? Is the RINO‘s allergy to winning infectious? Am I too susceptible to emotional manipulation? Anyone up for some armchair psychology?
 
He needed to at the same time as the above be a counterbalance to Trump. He needed to be everything Trump isn't personality wise. Again, he did.
There were so many opportunities for Trumpian style rebuttals that Vance deliberately did not pursue. When Walz talked about how he benefitted from the GI bill, Vance didn't attack him for stolen valor. When Walz tried to fearmonger over the prospect of Trump prosecuting his political enemies, Vance didn't bring up Jack Smith, Fani Willis, or Juan Merchan. There was no mention of tampons in boys' rooms or bottom surgeries for illegal alien detainees. No Haitian haute cuisine. Absent were bombastic lines like "because you'd be in jail" or "excuse me, I'm speaking."

Instead, Vance scored a decisive victory by relying solely on scholarship and the appeal of the Trump platform. I'd like to say that such a masterful performance would convince fencesitters - those that like the policies but hate the man - to turn out for Trump in November, but as others have noted, the only people bothering to tune in to a VP debate probably have already picked their horse long ago.
 
Jimmy Bowman-Hamel-Vance is a black hole of charisma who can only win a debate when his opponent is having a bad night. Again, his own electoral history says it all. Even Kamala did better in her elections. Dude will implode if he ever goes for the presidency unless his sugar daddy Thiel convinces the WEF and Bilderbergs to put him in office. I'm not gonna take the W for "my team", I'm going to criticize my team the same way I did when I used to watch football and my team would play like shit half the game and if they won they'd luck their way into a garbage 10-7 victory and promptly lose the next week. For some reason I was allowed to do that without being criticized.

"Doomer" is to the right what "conspiracy theorist" is to the left. I'm giving you previews. And given 2015 pre-Trump America might as well have been the 1950s with how free and conservative it was compared to today, maybe Trump might not be so good?
You need to get laid.
 
Jimmy Bowman-Hamel-Vance is a black hole of charisma who can only win a debate when his opponent is having a bad night. Again, his own electoral history says it all. Even Kamala did better in her elections. Dude will implode if he ever goes for the presidency unless his sugar daddy Thiel convinces the WEF and Bilderbergs to put him in office. I'm not gonna take the W for "my team", I'm going to criticize my team the same way I did when I used to watch football and my team would play like shit half the game and if they won they'd luck their way into a garbage 10-7 victory and promptly lose the next week. For some reason I was allowed to do that without being criticized.

"Doomer" is to the right what "conspiracy theorist" is to the left. I'm giving you previews. And given 2015 pre-Trump America might as well have been the 1950s with how free and conservative it was compared to today, maybe Trump might not be so good?
Didn't you say Vance was gonna get destroyed?
 
After this debate.

Total. Doomposter. Death.
Goodnight A&N, this has been a great night, we got 35 more days until we win.

Seize American destiny.

TRUMP-VANCE 2024
MAGA
It's absolutely fucking hilarious how this thread is so desperate for any sliver of hope that they're clinging onto the fucking vice presidential debate for copium fuel after Trump bombed the actual Presidential debate between the top of the ticket, then tucked tail and refused to do another.

The most memorable thing about the 2020 debate was a fly landing on Pence's head. Trump lost that election. Vance crying about being checked on his bullshit is totally going to secure Trump the win this time!

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Can't dial the gimmick to 11 all the time, it loses value

@Save the Loli read the above
No gimmick at all. I'm just pointing out the flaws in your favorite politicians, namely that they just aren't very good. Especially Jimmy Hamel, who is a fraud owned by a pedophile globalist billionaire. You guys should really stop being the Party of Stupid, but as that isn't likely to happen any time soon, the Party of Evil will keep winning.

You can tell the elite want NO ONE opening this can of worms. Tampon Tim could've shut Jimmy's faux-populism act down cold if he brought up how Jimmy Hamel's entire career has been bankrolled by pedophile billionaire Peter Thiel and the CIA.
Didn't you say Vance was gonna get destroyed?
I did, and I admit I was wrong. Tampon Tim had a bad night. I hope you'll do the same once Trump loses yet again, or when Thiel's catamite is BTFO even worse in 2028.
 
They keep touting the lie because that's what they'll point back to when the 3 AM ballot drops happen showing Kamala leading by 300,000 brand new consecutively counted ballots. If they acknowledge she's in trouble it makes a steal much more difficult to pull off, if they make it seem like she's ahead or it's a close race, they can dump tons of ballots if it's within the margin of fraud and then just reference their own propaganda "SEE, SEE, WE TOLD YOU MAGACHUDS THAT KAMALA WAS THE MOST POPULAR GIRLBOSS EVER, BUT YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE!"

That, causing a world war, and taking out D-man are about their only options left, and they've already failed the last one a couple times now.
I just had a horrifying thought. I've had the same view as you but what if they flip it and rather than use the even polling to pull off a cheat, they use it to say that Trump cheated when he wins a landslide? And then they refuse to concede?

Eh... paranoia.
 
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