What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

[FatalTater]

So my official stance on Chemtrails/contrails/whatever has always been "Could They be spraying something into the air? Sure. Are They? I dunno" but I have noticed something.
Where I am, I see lots of planes, but not often do they leave trails. When they do, it's right before something shady happens.
Today I have seen LOTS of trails in the sky.
Hopefully it's nothing.

 

[Squishie PP]

So my official stance on Chemtrails/contrails/whatever has always been "Could They be spraying something into the air? Sure. Are They? I dunno" but I have noticed something.
Where I am, I see lots of planes, but not often do they leave trails. When they do, it's right before something shady happens.
Today I have seen LOTS of trails in the sky.
Hopefully it's nothing.

If you live close to a large body of freshwater, it is possible that they are seeding the clouds for rainfall in order to power downstream hydroelectric dams (it was revealed that this is done in a now-deleted Vice video that I don't have access to at the moment.)

If you live anywhere close to a valuable natural resource, economically active zone, or large industrial area, you should be prepared to leave at a moment's notice. It all depends on where you live, the type of weather patterns that can be inensified/shaped in your particular climate, and the economic activity within your region.

 

[Jimjamflimflam]

"Could They be spraying something into the air? Sure. Are They? I dunno" but I have noticed something.

Thats pretty much my official position on so much these days.

I don't believe its true, but I'm not going to be surprised when it turns out to be true either though.

 

[Meaty Fresh]

So my official stance on Chemtrails/contrails/whatever has always been "Could They be spraying something into the air? Sure. Are They? I dunno" but I have noticed something.
Where I am, I see lots of planes, but not often do they leave trails. When they do, it's right before something shady happens.
Today I have seen LOTS of trails in the sky.
Hopefully it's nothing.

Sometimes, when they're too heavy to land safely, they spray out thousands of gallons of fuel at a time. It's supposed to evaporate before it gets to the ground.

Wonder if you could add something to the fuel and then engineer an "emergency" that would require the place to come back to the airport and dump the funny fuel somewhere. Would this even be a good way to dispense whatever chemicals?

 

[Meriasek]

I've seen it, too. The explanation I got was that they're all composite photos.
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Source of above images: https://explorer1.jpl.nasa.gov/galleries/earth-from-space/

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Source of these: https://www.universetoday.com/41702/picture-of-earth-from-space/

Composite photos is one thing, but this'd be more about those pictures where the "entire" Earth is captured in a single photo.
But it's a pretty simple, none of the pictures are taken from the same distance with the same field of view. It's a bit confusing because the Earth always looks round, but the closer you get, the less of the hemisphere you see (hence the quotation marks earlier around "entire"), making the landmasses appear bigger. Additionally, depending on the viewing angle a continent might also look more stretched out because you're viewing it from a flatter angle.
Oddly enough, Answers in Genesis has a decent article on it that explains the various effects quite well:

https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/danny-faulkner/2018/08/28/nasa-changing-size-north-america-and-flat-earth/

With a very nice demonstration on how distance and FoV affects the size of continents even though the Earth always fills out the view:

 

[FatalTater]

Sometimes, when they're too heavy to land safely, they spray out thousands of gallons of fuel at a time. It's supposed to evaporate before it gets to the ground.

Wonder if you could add something to the fuel and then engineer an "emergency" that would require the place to come back to the airport and dump the funny fuel somewhere. Would this even be a good way to dispense whatever chemicals?

I mean, they could just spray whatever they wanted and then lie and say it was fuel. As long as any investigators are on the payroll the average person isn't gonna find out.

 

[Otterly]

Composite photos is one thing, but this'd be more about those pictures where the "entire" Earth is captured in a single photo.
But it's a pretty simple, none of the pictures are taken from the same distance with the same field of view. It's a bit confusing because the Earth always looks round, but the closer you get, the less of the hemisphere you see (hence the quotation marks earlier around "entire"), making the landmasses appear bigger. Additionally, depending on the viewing angle a continent might also look more stretched out because you're viewing it from a flatter angle.
Oddly enough, Answers in Genesis has a decent article on it that explains the various effects quite well:

https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/danny-faulkner/2018/08/28/nasa-changing-size-north-america-and-flat-earth/

With a very nice demonstration on how distance and FoV affects the size of continents even though the Earth always fills out the view:
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Ahhhh that makes perfect sense! I’ve just had a go with our globe from close up and across the room. Thanks.

 

[Brahma]

So my official stance on Chemtrails/contrails/whatever has always been "Could They be spraying something into the air? Sure. Are They? I dunno" but I have noticed something.
Where I am, I see lots of planes, but not often do they leave trails. When they do, it's right before something shady happens.
Today I have seen LOTS of trails in the sky.
Hopefully it's nothing.

Would this even be a good way to dispense whatever chemicals?

This is where it falls down for me. I've no problem believing governments would do it but there's so much better ways to spread the chemicals. They already flurisate the water etc.

Counter arguments usually lie within "not everyone drinks water". Ok, sure. Everyone breathes air though. I'd believe they were dosing petrol and diesel with chemicals to be expelled through the exhaust quicker than contrails being an effective dosing vector.

 

[Grundlejungle]

Can we stop sperging about the moon? In been like 5 fucking pages.
Threadtax: private sector tech is at least 20 years ahead of what were currently shown. I've met a few folks who've worked for nasa and jpl, and after a few drinks they tend to spill the beans. Magnetic propulsion and "a new kind of battery" are things I've heard about from former employees.
They've also said that the main reason that we dont go to the moon again is a lack of funds. Space travel is high cost and and doesn't make enough money/resources to get consistent funding. "For a 100 billion dollars you can get a man to space and advance the human race, but at the end of it you don't make a profit. Investors prefer stuff like hovercars because they can monetize it and make a lot of money for themselves."

 

[NoReturn]

Also, there is rumor there is a giant Lithium deposite in the mountains of North Carolina. So maybe like the land grabbing in Hawaii, there might be some shady shit in North Carolina going down.

Rezzing the "NC is like Hawaii" thing. I believe it at this point.

Rational and Not-as-rational Explanations for what we're seeing:

1. Hubris and incompetence from the government disguised as "We don't want unqualified and untrained people making things worse".
2. Incentives to not rescue these people and to make the situation as bad as possible to the land can be bought up for pennies on the dollar.
3. A small number of poor white people aren't considered a "valuable" demographic.
4. Some people are actively celebrating that this happened to "poor white people" so if the government steps in, they'll get "Oh, so you can take care of white people, but not [insert demographic here]?"
5. They are telling the truth. The money is gone. FEMA actually, genuinely is broke.

I think the truth is some combination of the above.
I mean, thousands of people are dead, and I'm seeing almost nothing about it offline.

 

[Otterly]

Space travel is high cost and and doesn't make enough money/resources to get consistent funding.

Having seen the sheer insanity of decisions made in my line of business to make Line Go Up Next Quarter I can believe this. Spend a hundred k now to make five million savings in two years? No, because Line Go Down next two quarters first and Red Makes Sad. Bit depressing really.

private sector tech is at least 20 years ahead of what were currently shown. I've met a few folks who've worked for nasa and jpl, and after a few drinks they tend to spill the beans. Magnetic propulsion and "a new kind of battery" are things I've heard about from former employees.

This always makes me wonder what the MIC has going on for biological stuff. I would love to know but alas I’m never invited to the cool parties labs

 

[Overly Serious]

Rezzing the "NC is like Hawaii" thing. I believe it at this point.

I'm cynical enough to believe it, but Hawaii was a fire and we know how to start fires. We don't know how to start a hurricane. So this would be extremely fortuitous in timing for opportunistically cashing in on a recently discovered mineral resource.

This always makes me wonder what the MIC has going on for biological stuff. I would love to know but alas I’m never invited to the cool parties labs

I mean, you may not know what they're working on, but you do get to sleep at night. (You can read that as clear conscience or lack of mortal terror, you choice!)

 

[Marc]

I'm in the hurricane disaster zone so I've been pretty busy, otherwise.

the hurricane was faked.

 

[goh]

The Soviets implemented a "Fog of War" style of censorship and governing. The idea being, yes, the Soviet governement is powerful, but it's also strategically incompetent. Some things are set in stone, but others aren't so clear. You see a lot of disproportionate policing here; some places are "freer" in the sense that the government doesn't give a shit in that region (for now). The downside is that anarchy reigns in key areas, turning citizen against citizen in areas of low policing. This is a feature of the Soviet system, not a bug. Criminals become an arm of the state; why would a gang challenge the state when they can reign in a shithole Soviet bloc? Of course, if you're really, really bad, you'll get shipped off to a gulag. You'll either be torn apart by the guards or the prisoners, but you're fucked either way.

Not to toot my own horn, but what's happening in Appalachia due to Hurricane Helene is exactly the point I'm making here. Disproportionate FEMA response to volunteers, ignore actual damage under the guise of "bureaucracy," and "underfunding," and allow looters (that don't even speak the lingua franca) to roam free.
Moreover, I should note the reason why FEMA hates these Appalachian volunteers: It 100% is down to demoralization. They want us atomized, not working together. A community with strong bonds will persevere a Soviet method of control. Wouldn't you trust someone who walked through Hel with you?

Be prepared. Be knowledgeable. Be connected.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

We don't know how to start a hurricane

We can make weather. This isn't even conspiracy, just a fact based on 100 year old science and 3 decade old practice. We can also break weather. In one Eastern European country, they fire rockets into gathering clouds of particularly heavy thunderstorms. Yes, firing a rocket at a cloud is peak Slav, but it works. Very cool to witness and it gives a couple of hours heads up to baton down the hatches.

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Cloud seeding/Chemtrails - Are real and again, not a conspiracy. Aluminium is added to the exhausts of jet engines to disperse the flecks into the clouds. The idea is to reflect sun to keep the earth cool. We spend billions on it globally and the official 'good guy cooling the earth' reason is based on science that is about as reliable as a chocolate fire-guard, yet we persist. Some believe it helps disperse/gather rain clouds.
Aforementioned Slavic country gets bombarded with chemtrails, with some cloud formations looking like nothing I've ever seen, most often preceding extended periods of dry, unseasonably hot weather. It just so happens that the EU fucking hate this country for being so independent and rejecting the EU outright for being evil.

RE: Moon pictures. NASA have admitted to colourising Mars photos to make them red. Mars isn't red, not one bit of it is red, it's never been red, it is the same bleak colour as the moon. NASA edit the photos and aren't shy about admitting to that face. Source : NASA and Why Files.

 

[JustSomeDong]

We can make weather. This isn't even conspiracy, just a fact based on 100 year old science and 3 decade old practice. We can also break weather. In one Eastern European country, they fire rockets into gathering clouds of particularly heavy thunderstorms. Yes, firing a rocket at a cloud is peak Slav, but it works. Very cool to witness and it gives a couple of hours heads up to baton down the hatches.

Exactly. The Air Force and Naval Aviation practiced weather modification in Vietnam. Its not fiction, or conspiracy theory. We can most definitely seed clouds and rain, and with moderate success redirect entire storm fronts. Its historical fact, and was military policy. If you can be sure a jungle is dry, napalm is much more effective.

 

[goh]

I'm cynical enough to believe it, but Hawaii was a fire and we know how to start fires. We don't know how to start a hurricane. So this would be extremely fortuitous in timing for opportunistically cashing in on a recently discovered mineral resource.

Why start a hurricane when you can pour 180 pounds of dry ice into a tropical storm and get it to careen a different direction? We've been doing that since the 40s.In fact, let's compare the experiment with our lovely lady, Helene:

Note, there were lawsuits over Project Cirrus. They were thrown out because the claim was Hurricane King was "created" by the military, which is not true. The government did not create a hurricane in the 1940s; they moved one. They moved it pretty far too! Thank God they'd never do that again!

 

[AnOminous]

Not to toot my own horn, but what's happening in Appalachia due to Hurricane Helene is exactly the point I'm making here. Disproportionate FEMA response to volunteers, ignore actual damage under the guise of "bureaucracy," and "underfunding," and allow looters (that don't even speak the lingua franca) to roam free.

I think it's just open hatred of white chuds who don't by and large vote for them.

 

[goh]

I think it's just open hatred of white chuds who don't by and large vote for them.

Yes. Soviets likewise paraded their hatred of different ethnicities/beliefs/classes. Rednecks are the most anti-establishment; ergo, allow them to die while funneling billions elsewhere. Blame it on bureaucracy or under funding, both "reasonable" excuses for pro-establishment ingroup, then ignore or prolong the suffering of your outgroup. Willfully withholding promised aid and forming a blockade effectively kills more people than a military force ever could, all while keeping your ingroup's perceived innocence.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

Last century, there were countless examples of the CIA experimenting on Americans. What's to say the Hurricane/weather modifications aren't experiments to see how effective of a weapon it can be?
Instead of dropping syphilis on niggers it's rainclouds on hill-billies.