Do you get more female attraction as a man if you are a little mean with them?

[Irish Turtle]

I am not talking about cursing them out and calling them slurs but I mean mild teasing. I noticed overly nice guys get frienzoned and get placed in the catagory of gay best friend.

 

[God of Nothing]

do you think women feel good about guys they don't feel any tension with?

 

[Gorton Colu]

Well, way back in my highschool years, I remember a friend of mine tagging all of her friends on a Facebook emoticon chart where she tagged another friend of mine as most annoying. A year later, they were in a relationship.

I don't think it works for most women however. I suspect they just don't want or are attracted to pushovers.

 

[Joe Swanson]

Yes, not being a boring person and being willing to banter will make most people like you more, including women

 

[Fascist Frederick]

If you're nice all the time it just becomes normal and stops being nice. You have to be a dick 60% of the time so that the 40% of the time you are nice makes her feel special.

 

[peachlover669]

YOU GOTTA BEAT THAT BITCH

 

[el bandito loco]

I've always had relatively good success with women as an average looking dude and I'm literally almost always mean to them. not like hurtful or violent but I wouldn't call it teasing. There's probably some science around it or something but it's not something I've looked into, I just think they're almost all annoying as fuck and I'm super blunt to people in general. It might be you come across as more honest like that, or maybe you seem artificially tougher or something, or it might be just women find it attractive when you aren't simping for them all day and being a pussy or coddling to everything because they don't get to have as much as a superiority complex or feel as much as you're just means to an end for them.

I'm not saying never pay a compliment or never have manners or something I'm just saying guys that are overly simplike get seem as more pathetic at worst and pet/doglike at best. I'm no casanova or anything but its always worked for me to not be particularly nice.

 

[Trump's Chosen]

I mean mild teasing

You can go a lot further than that and still tap it.

 

[Irish Turtle]

do you think women feel good about guys they don't feel any tension with?

according to modern feminists on bp you have to be super nice to every woman and compliment her on everything.

 

[Garamok]

according to modern feminists on bp you have to be super nice to every woman and compliment her on everything.

Don't worry, they're totally wrong. Women want to be disrespected and be told that they're dirt. Just like in all your favourite porn videos. All women are like that, any woman who wants love and respect is just a crazy feminist.

 

[Squishie PP]

This shit is why I don't want to date. You have to play these retarded little games where you optimize every detail of your social interactions just for the chance that she will like you. I genuinely don't understand how anyone can do this shit without constantly wanting to gouge their own eyes out.

 

[Irish Turtle]

Don't worry, they're totally wrong. Women want to be disrespected and be told that they're dirt. Just like in all your favourite porn videos. All women are like that, any woman who wants love and respect is just a crazy feminist.

nigga did you read my post, I didnt say to call women slurs or attack attack them I said "a little mean" not commit holocaust on them

 

[Fapcop]

I noticed overly nice guys get frienzoned and get placed in the catagory of gay best friend.

Slapping a woman around arouses her base instincts and lets her know you are a strong man who will fill her womb with strong swimmers.

Nah, but seriously: PUA have made big bucks on packaging what should be simple logic and basic human psychology. Everybody wants what they can’t have. A guy (or girl) who just rolls over and lets you know that they’re yours for the taking, isn’t nearly as interesting or attractive as someone who doesn’t.

 

[Irish Turtle]

This shit is why I don't want to date. You have to play these retarded little games where you optimize every detail of your social interactions just for the chance that she will like you. I genuinely don't understand how anyone can do this shit without constantly wanting to gouge their own eyes out.

I learned that too brother dating is retarded and complicated, im going to pwerlevel for a bit and slightly embarass myself. In high school I was a nice guy and I tried to get girls by being their best friend and talking super nice to them, I got female attention in the form of being their straight gay bestfriend but none wanted to date me. Im in university now and when I act like a mild douche to women like bragging or teasing her gently and they all seem way more into slightly mean me than nice guy me in high school.

 

[Fapcop]

I learned that too brother dating is retarded and complicated, im going to pwerlevel for a bit and slightly embarass myself. In high school I was a nice guy and I tried to get girls by being their best friend and talking super nice to them, I got female attention in the form of being their straight gay bestfriend but none wanted to date me. Im in university now and when I act like a mild douche to women like bragging or teasing her gently and they all seem way more into slightly mean me than nice guy me in high school.

Gee, weird! Almost as if they like a challenge or something?

It’s human psychology 101. What would make you feel more satisfied: 100$ that just fell into your lap, or 100$ that you get as the result of a contest where you had to best others and challenge yourself?

PUA are pretty cringe, but they’re not entirely wrong. At the bottom of any PUA “method” is basic human psychology.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

nigga did you read my post, I didnt say to call women slurs or attack attack them I said "a little mean" not commit holocaust on them

It's more about being confident, women want confidence because that means you'll be confident and strong as a partner. If you're willing to make a sassy joke on a date, that shows that you're not desperate and that you're not going to be a doormat for her or for anyone. The problem isn't that some men are too nice, it's that they don't show a backbone and are maybe even hiding their true face. It smells of not being trustworthy.

I tried to get girls by being their best friend and talking super nice to them

And they could tell that you weren't being sincere. And if a woman feels like a man is hiding something, they're not going to want to be alone with you. Because they can't know if you're just a guy trying to laid, or a future troon serial killer.

 

[Irish Turtle]

It's more about being confident, women want confidence because that means you'll be confident and strong as a partner. If you're willing to make a sassy joke on a date, that shows that you're not desperate and that you're not going to be a doormat for her or for anyone. The problem isn't that some men are too nice, it's that they don't show a backbone and are maybe even hiding their true face. It smells of not being trustworthy.


And they could tell that you weren't being sincere. And if a woman feels like a man is hiding something, they're not going to want to be alone with you. Because they can't know if you're just a guy trying to laid, or a future troon serial killer.

You are speaking the truth brother, in retrospect I am cringing hard at my past nice guy actions. I noticed now in college when I act like a rich spoiled fratboy asshole some women willingly just walk into other rooms to get isolated with me. Another aspect besides confidence is looks I used to be 230 pounds of fat but now I am somewhat muscular and 200 pounds, I only started weightlifting for 3 months but I saw a massive transformation in my looks and the way people treat me.

Gee, weird! Almost as if they like a challenge or something?

It’s human psychology 101. What would make you feel more satisfied: 100$ that just fell into your lap, or 100$ that you get as the result of a contest where you had to best others and challenge yourself?

PUA are pretty cringe, but they’re not entirely wrong. At the bottom of any PUA “method” is basic human psychology.

thats true but basic psych isnt being taught to gen z for example we were taught to think that troons are women by our woke teachers instead of the reality of them being mentally ill men in dresses.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

I only started weightlifting for 3 months but I saw a massive transformation in my looks and the way people treat me.

We're all gonna make it brah, good job. Don't worry about being a bit cringe before, a lot of guys fall into the nice guy trap before they figure it out. And women have their own weird hang-ups when they're young and dumb. Men just need to value themselves more, respect women but also respect yourself.

 

[Fapcop]

You are speaking the truth brother, in retrospect I am cringing hard at my past nice guy actions. I noticed now in college when I act like a rich spoiled fratboy asshole some women willingly just walk into other rooms to get isolated with me. Another aspect besides confidence is looks I used to be 230 pounds of fat but now I am somewhat muscular and 200 pounds, I only started weightlifting for 3 months but I saw a massive transformation in my looks and the way people treat me.

thats true but basic psych isnt being taught to gen z for example we were taught to think that troons are women by our woke teachers instead of the reality of them being mentally ill men in dresses.

Good on ya brother!

Sounds like you’re way ahead of many other men your age. Some don’t figure this out till they’re past 30. Others never do but troon out.

 

[Irish Turtle]

We're all gonna make it brah, good job. Don't worry about being a bit cringe before, a lot of guys fall into the nice guy trap before they figure it out. And women have their own weird hang-ups when they're young and dumb. Men just need to value themselves more, respect women but also respect yourself.

Good on ya brother!

Sounds like you’re way ahead of many other men your age. Some don’t figure this out till they’re past 30. Others never do but troon out.

Thanks guys for the words of encouragement