Hurricane Milton

[Verdun_Salient]

I always wanted to fly on one of those hurricane hunter C130s, it sounds awesome

 

[longer-study]

Is it safe to stay if you don't live along the coast? I doubt most people in central Florida will leave, right?

 

[Glep]

Not living in FL, so I have a question: Imagine you're "well" prepared and got food, drink and some shelter covered. What is the potential lethality of a Cat 5 hurricane? How lethal would Milton be in a full "Cat 6" scenario?

• "You may live, but you will suffer dearly"
• "You'll need a miracle to survive"
• "Try to make peace with god. That's all you can do now."

I would say this mostly depends on how close you live to the coast. For reference, there were forecasts warning of 15-20ft storm surge in the Big Bend for Helene. The Taylor County sheriff's office warned those who didn't evacuate for Helene to write their names, birthdates, and important information on their arms and legs in permanent marker so that their corpses could be identified, and the NWS in Tallahassee phrased their warning to say that there would be "unsurvivable storm surge."

Water, namely storm surge, is the biggest killer when hurricanes roll through. If it's not surge sweeping people away, it's things like people trying to drive their cars through flooded streets, and finding out at the cost of their life that the road washed out and all that's left in its place is a 10ft. deep hole.

Coastal and low-lying areas may be uninhabitable for weeks, maybe longer. There will be no power, likely no water, likely no cell service, ground Internet infrastructure destroyed. Inland, power out for days to maybe one or two weeks, likely still have water and cell service. Gas stations throughout the state will likely not have any fuel. Supplies and aid arrival will be affected by road washout, debris, and returning traffic. Things like that. If you want to stick out something like this, you have to be ready to suffer.

I was born and raised in Florida, been through my fair share of hurricanes, had a house flood during the back-to-back-to-back hurricanes in 2004, roof destroyed by Ian--none of those were cat5 iirc, but when your power is out and the storm shows up in the dead of night, it doesn't matter how far inland you are, you're still making peace with God.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

Is it safe to stay if you don't live along the coast? I doubt most people in central Florida will leave, right?

Depends on if you still have residual water from the last hurricane. If the soil is saturated from that, Milton is going to add even more water and you will be enjoying Katrina conditions.

 

[Otterly]

I'm genuinely curious how the pre-contact tribes handled hurricanes.

Any caves nearby? Rock shelters would be good. I’m curious too. I know there was one island that was almost totally washed over in the Boxing Day tsunami and they had almost no fatalities - I’m sure I read they had some legend like ‘so when the sea goes far out to the point you can see the sea bed, don’t go look, you leg it to the top of these specific trees and hang on for a day at least.’ Perhaps simply being less tied to built structures helped - they’d maybe have a set of signs they watched for that were more likely to correlate with flood or poor weather and that was the cue to pack up and head to set places. I’m sure part of the answer is ‘dying’ as well.

and is more resilient to wind shear tearing the storm apart.

Why? (Also thanks to you and @Smyrna fir answering my dumb questions

Anyone else think it’s curious that we’re seeing this rise in troons and giant hurricanes?

God’s punishment for sacrificing children to Moloch?

All I’m saying is drag some doctors out from one of their gender clinics and pull out their beating hearts on top of the roof and I totally wouldn’t be surprised if Milton suddenly dispersed into a brisk gale.

It’s worth a try!

 

[Tar&FeatherFurrys]

Is it safe to stay if you don't live along the coast? I doubt most people in central Florida will leave, right?

I'd imagine you're going to have to deal with the consequences of a completely devastated energy grid, low resources for enforcement, and a shit ton of fleeing people who may or may not be of the devious thieving variety. If you're in the state bud and can do it I'd advise taking a little vacation if possible.

If you can't, good luck bud, seems like this is a real shit show on the horizon.

 

[Jimmy Dean Bowl]

The madlads are out in the storm again, USAF this time.

 

[Michael_Jordan_Peterson]

There is always some kind of doom that comes leading up to election year. The last time it was covid, which it was a huge conspiracy to even suggest it may have come from a lab leak in Wuhan that produced actual covid viruses. Whether or not this weather weapon shit is a retarded conspiracy, which it pretty much is, it says a lot how many Americans think their own government genuinely means them harm.
When I was younger hurricanes were a kind of fun event. Watch the live streams, watch some scary movies, get some snacks and hunker down. But as I get older I see the damage and devastation these things cause and the seriousness of them has started to settle in a bit more. I saw a video of some of the devastation that just hit Fort Myers with Helene; a young couple that had just bought their first home had it essentially demolished 4 days after closing. I hope everyone stays safe and at this point if you're not taking it seriously you might be nuts.

It sounds like all the evacuation routes at this point are clogged and gas is sold out. Stalling out in the middle of florida as the hurricane hits doesn't sound like fun. This storm really gave 0 notice. I think the one upside is the west coast isn't exactly a gigantic population center like if they were trying to evacuate miami or other parts of south florida.

 

[Haramburger]

There any one that can live stream here if you are dumb/brave enough to stay?

Pro-tip: you can't self-dox if your home is swept away by a legendary storm. If Greta Gustava wants to show up to your empty lot to intimidate you, there's a good chance the tide will take her out to sea, which will be a net benefit for society.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

I think the one upside is the west coast isn't exactly a gigantic population center like if they were trying to evacuate miami or other parts of south florida.

Yeah, no cities or large communities exist in Tampa or Bradenton.

 

[Fields Of Rye]

Any caves nearby? Rock shelters would be good. I’m curious too. I know there was one island that was almost totally washed over in the Boxing Day tsunami and they had almost no fatalities - I’m sure I read they had some legend like ‘so when the sea goes far out to the point you can see the sea bed, don’t go look, you leg it to the top of these specific trees and hang on for a day at least.

Barrier Islands have ecology that’s dedicated to surviving hurricanes, when you don’t have to worry about a house or a car or shit you can just walk up hill and hug a tree, unless the island goes completely under you’ll be fine.

There’s so much debris due to the modern day but the lizards on barrier islands literally just evolved to hold on to trees. Ofc it’s miserable and shitty but you aren’t going to get hit by a detached house like you would if you tried it in Appalachia

 

[Hey Johnny Bravo]

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The madlads are out in the storm again, USAF this time.

Gotta get that data for NCAR.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

They're already reporting that Elon Musk was trying to fly a bunch of Starlinks into North Carolina and FEMA grounded the flights. You're either a prophet or a really good guesser.

Hawaii is 100% blue and Biden/Harris ass fucked the people in Lahaina after the fire just as hard as they're ass fucking the Hurricane Helene victims. Remember the train crash in East Palestine, Ohio? They fucked that up too, down to the crippling "shelter in place" orders, when they should have been evacuating people as fast as they could. And look at the withdrawal from Afghanistan, jfc, what a shitshow.

It's not a dastardly anti-Republican conspiracy. Biden/Harris just have an appallingly bad record in disaster and emergency response and have squandered all the FEMA money every year since taking office, simple as.

I haven't seen such negligence since Calvin Coolidge, and he did nothing on purpose.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

Sucks the Seminole didn't have a written language. I'm genuinely curious how the pre-contact tribes handled hurricanes. It's not like they had horses until Europeans came over, so it's not like they had any way to leave in a hurry.

The Seminoles didn't exist until the 1700s when a bunch of Indians who kept getting BTFO by other Indians and whites decided to band together and invade Florida where the Indians were pretty weak.

Apparently the Florida Indians would pile all the shells from the oysters and clams they ate in front of their villages along the beaches and let it form dunes and mounds. It wouldn't save their ass in a storm like this, but it would help mitigate the storm surge and give time for them to evacuate. And they ate a fuckton of shellfish, because the actual Florida Indians the Seminoles BTFO didn't farm. Hell, they probably didn't farm unlike the tribes north of them because you'd have to be crazy to farm in Florida. Your crops would just get blown down by a hurricane or waterspout, and if you managed to harvest them then a hurricane would blow down your mud granary and you'd be right fucked. Since there's oysters and clams everywhere, the woods are full of deer and those palmettos you can eat, why bother doing backbreaking shit like farming in that humidity when you can spear a deer or a fish and call it a day?

 

[Tinidril]

I like how there are farmers from every possible strata of society.

Right now, there’s probably a meteorologist at a TV station, discretely pulling out his phone in the commercial break, to update his fellow Kiwis on what’s going on.

I realized yesterday, as I was in bed reading various selections from this thread to my husband, that I get a lot, if not most, of my "news" from the farms these days. I have faith in the truthfulness of the farmers, and I know "facts" offered by one kiwi will be supplemented, corrected, or trashed by others.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

This storm is beautiful to watch on satellite imagery. It organized so quickly and neatly as it strengthened and was picturesque. The eye wall replacement mentioned above is a little less so but yesterday in particular was cool to watch. I've felt the impact this year and will feel more of it from this storm, that's life in the southeast. It's just unfortunate that I have home, business and family interests in both badly affected states.

WTF is wrong with this season. What is with all these Hurricanes blowing in from the West. The Superstitious side of me is saying that all these wild storms in the month of October means the leadership of the nation has angered heaven, and as we approach the night of Samhain when the veil between this world and the fae grows weakest, the wrath of heaven becomes more pronounced.

But that is just silly talk.

23/24 had an El Nino event that ended not too long ago. Keep in mind that global climate and ocean currents are fairly poorly understood, everything affects everything else and sometimes in unexpected ways. There's no grand mystery here it's a bad hurricane season. They happen sometimes. 20ish years ago the same kind of thing happened for the east coast; a bunch of hurricanes. The only unusual thing about this hurricane season is what happened in NC and that was an anomaly because it was already very wet there and any time a storm system moves into an area like that the elevation of the terrain basically "forces" the moisture out of it (it dumps an assload of water) it's called orographic lift.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

El Nino

Isn't the weather trend the opposite now: "La Niña"?

 

[I'm Retarded?]

There is always some kind of doom that comes leading up to election year. The last time it was covid, which it was a huge conspiracy to even suggest it may have come from a lab leak in Wuhan that produced actual covid viruses. Whether or not this weather weapon shit is a retarded conspiracy, which it pretty much is, it says a lot how many Americans think their own government genuinely means them harm.

Gentlemen... the election year is upon us. It is time we reaped the benefits of our hard work. Activate the Doomsday Device.

*ominous mouse click*

 

[God's drunkest driver]

Isn't the weather trend the opposite now: "La Niña"?

I don't know if they've called it yet, but it was trending in that direction. It's not necessarily one or the other though you can go into a neutral period after either.

 

[Deo_Terra]

Sucks the Seminole didn't have a written language. I'm genuinely curious how the pre-contact tribes handled hurricanes. It's not like they had horses until Europeans came over, so it's not like they had any way to leave in a hurry.

The Seminole as we know them today aren’t actually native to Florida they originally started as the remnants of the Muskogee Creek Confederacy alongside a few groups of fugitive slaves who refused to surrender to the US and go to Oklahoma and went south to fight a guerrilla war in central Florida for about half a century until they got completely stomped in 1857 where then those who again didn’t accept surrender and exile into Oklahoma fled into the Glades to become the Modern Seminole Tribe of Florida.