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[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Up-and-coming towns that will become the new urban centers need to cement "the car as the primary method of transportation" into their town charters NOW before all the urbanist fags invade.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Haven't watched it, but I can tell you it doesn't. Let's break it down:

Pros:
+ It looks kinda nice

Cons:
- It's a nightmare to maintain, and if you fail to maintain it, it ends up looking like shit
- Normally, emergency vehicles make use of tram tracks to bypass traffic. When you replace the concrete or asphalt with a grass bed, they end up stuck

Nobody can use the grass for obvious reasons, it becomes a muddy nightmare in rainy situations (including erosion) and a waste of resources in dry situations, it looks a lot like abandoned freight lines, and such a design will tend to trap garbage rather than blowing it off.

 

[quaawaa]

Up-and-coming towns that will become the new urban centers need to cement "the car as the primary method of transportation" into their town charters NOW before all the urbanist fags invade.

Have you seen the Texas GOP platform?

/r/fuckcars seethed about it when it came out.

 

[Atypical Dog]

British drivers are a lot better behaved than American drivers. In the US, both lanes would have been full of cars until the last moment where they would merge into the other lane.

Yeah the cyclist was acting normal to me. Why are the lines on the road zig-zagging, though?

At the base of all this is people not understanding logistics complications that begin to appear once your group is above family size or so. Even the Son of God had to deal with it (Matthew 14:13–21; Mark 6:31–44; Luke 9:12–17; John 6:1–14). Logistics gets hard when you’re dealing with city sized groups of people - it’s a testament to our technological might that most people don’t ever have to think about it. But everyone should try to run a church dinner or similar sometimes and then imagine scaling it up 1,000x or more.

Friend's family is really close to their cousins and extended family. Dinner once a week with 10+ to 20+ people in attendance. They have a restaurant rotation because there are only so many places with the combination of:

• Having seating on short notice (they usually only find out the headcount the night before or day of)
• Ground floor seating for the older people
• Food palatable to everyone or at least an option on the menu (some people are picky)

Needless to say, it gets a lot worse the bigger you get, particularly for their own events.

You'd think that someone would point out that the congestion pricing was still going to be a regressive tax and hurt the common man more than the ultra-rich, but I guess in that situation it doesn't matter because motorists are worth screwing over above all logic and sense.

They're faking the ultra-rich they want to be until they make it into the ultra-rich they'll never become but have to encounter daily - living in the city means you're right next to the old rich downtowns.

Plus urbanism helps rich people anyway. They have a ton of real estate - either for business purposes, speculative purposes, or simply because they like living there. They don't just own an apartment, they own multiple, or the whole damn building, or use it to crash while in the city. See my previous post in this thread about Rehab Valuator and his business model of infill developing duplexes and walkable complexes into existing suburbs. He's pretty based but he puts a crust of urbanism on top of his ideas because it would let him build more units and move more product.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

>just use trains bro
>why do you need to take so much with you? one backpack is enough, you'll return home in a few days, it's not like some are unfortunate enough to lose everything what little they have
>pets take up space that could be used by other people
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These people think that whatever they do in Cities: Skyline also works in real life or something. Wait till they hear weather can affect train tracks and the train itself, especially during a CAT 4 - CAT 5 hurricane. Oh, but then it's the government's fault for not just building a better railroad system, I guess

Based when does DeSantis round up all the Kikes in Palm Beach and force them onto Brightline for the FEMA camps?

 

[LaxerBRO]

Jason shared a good article about Paris and its urbanist mayor:

One of these days a commuter is going to snap and kill the mayor.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Twitter urbanists are upset that some people don't use the subway.View attachment 6506537

Yes they are the same people who side with Anti Car Faggots because they view everyone as Serfs.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Twitter urbanists are upset that some people don't use the subway.

All animals are equal some animals are more equal than other animals...

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Friend's family is really close to their cousins and extended family. Dinner once a week with 10+ to 20+ people in attendance. They have a restaurant rotation because there are only so many places with the combination of:

• Having seating on short notice (they usually only find out the headcount the night before or day of)
• Ground floor seating for the older people
• Food palatable to everyone or at least an option on the menu (some people are picky)

Needless to say, it gets a lot worse the bigger you get, particularly for their own events.

If it's anything like American restaurants, the more people in a group the harder it is to get a table. Party of four will likely be seated while party of six will continue to wait until a larger table opens up. Sometimes gratuity will be automatically applied if a group of "Canadians" show up because "Canadians" often don't tip. (if you know you know)

A big chain restaurant (4,000 sq. ft./370 sq. meters, and up) can easily fit a large party of ten to twenty but if it's a storefront that's a tighter fit.

They're faking the ultra-rich they want to be until they make it into the ultra-rich they'll never become but have to encounter daily - living in the city means you're right next to the old rich downtowns.

In every neighborhood there's going to be haves and have-nots (or have-mores). This doesn't mean Section 8 apartments shitting up the place but in rich neighborhoods you're going to have people who live in admittedly nice apartments but they're not the ones who live in 10,000+ sq. ft. (930+ sq. meters) mansions.

One of these days a commuter is going to snap and kill the mayor.

The best and funniest option is that she gets voted out, new mayor reverts all the roads to their normal unfucked state, and /r/fuckcars seethes about how this is a shoah on pedestrians.

 

[Atypical Dog]

In every neighborhood there's going to be haves and have-nots (or have-mores). This doesn't mean Section 8 apartments shitting up the place but in rich neighborhoods you're going to have people who live in admittedly nice apartments but they're not the ones who live in 10,000+ sq. ft. (930+ sq. meters) mansions.

I was thinking it might be the people they work with/for since going off the Jason Slaughter stereotype they mostly work in highly-paid fields like tech where they can work from home. Like the feeling of a real estate agent working for/with people who are handling transactions worth more than they are.

If it's anything like American restaurants, the more people in a group the harder it is to get a table. Party of four will likely be seated while party of six will continue to wait until a larger table opens up. Sometimes gratuity will be automatically applied if a group of "Canadians" show up because "Canadians" often don't tip. (if you know you know)

A big chain restaurant (4,000 sq. ft./370 sq. meters, and up) can easily fit a large party of ten to twenty but if it's a storefront that's a tighter fit.

Yep. Generally the restaurants they go to are two or three storefronts turned into one big space, or in a hotel or their own building.

Yes they are the same people who side with Anti Car Faggots because they view everyone as Serfs.

That's cuz they're the serfs, and misery loves company.

 

[LordofCringe7206 Vol. 2]

I really do believe they think the government should be in charge of handling the situation as opposed to people taking action on their own. That does seem to be a core facet of their belief in collectivism and relying on a central power to handle things instead of individuals exercising their independence to do things. "I'm sure Kamala will swoop in and save us any moment now" they think to themselves.

To be fair to them, I don't think it is wrong to expect that. Disaster preparation and relief is a societal duty that your tax dollars should be paying for. But I think they have different ideas of what that exactly means versus what that should entail. To them, it just means having magical public transportation to take care of every issue that could occur.

To me it would mean helping people out with evacuating, helping setup durable safety shelters where possible. Maybe handing out some supplies both before and after the storm, helping out with relief and rebuilding efforts after the storm.

 

[quaawaa]

A big chain restaurant (4,000 sq. ft./370 sq. meters, and up) can easily fit a large party of ten to twenty but if it's a storefront that's a tighter fit.

One thing that a lot of people don't realize is that the average suburban restaurant is several times the size of an average urban restaurant. Your average McDonald's (which is tiny compared to something like The Cheesecake Factory) is equal to at least three city restaurants:

It's not just chains, the minimum size for a dine-in restaurant in the suburbs is much larger. A city-sized restaurant in the suburbs would be takeout-only.

Urbanists will make fun of long lines in the suburbs when a new restaurant opens:

but that's a one time thing.

Long waits and required reservations are an everyday thing for popular restaurants in dense cities, as shown by the media constantly whining about not being able to get reservations:


Those articles get bewildered comments from suburbanites because reservations-required restaurants are incredibly rare in the suburbs because there is so much more capacity.

 

[Yamamura]

Up-and-coming towns that will become the new urban centers need to cement "the car as the primary method of transportation" into their town charters NOW before all the urbanist fags invade.

With enough meddling it will eventually happen unfortunately.

To be fair to them, I don't think it is wrong to expect that. Disaster preparation and relief is a societal duty that your tax dollars should be paying for.

Ideally yes, I agree it is a reasonable expectation that your tax dollars are going to helping your fellow countrymen in their time of need. Unfortunately what currently exists is an administration more fixated on spending your money on pointless foreign conflicts at the moment. I just dislike the urbanist's negative view of self reliance and preparation (maybe not the idea itself, but at least the tools tangentially related to it). When the powers that be are not interested in helping the very least they could do is not restrict people from having the tools they need to help themselves.

 

[unaboomer]

Someone asks if any other cyclists do this. OP admits that they don't:

> we inspired our neighbor to buy a bike and trailer as they saw us carry our children like that
You mean using your kids as collateral while playing chicken with traffic? Reminds me of road raging niggers when they initiate a confrontation and then cry "AYE I got mah keeds in the car" when their victim fights back.

> Professor spends 7 hours commuting
Notice how the value of time only counts if you're commuting by car, in which case every second from stepping out of your front door to sitting in your chair at the office is deducted from your hourly wage. Having a 1:1 commute:work ratio riding a train is okay because...you get to play your Switch some of the time? I guess this is fine if you don't have a wife or kids waiting to see you when you come home, but who are the ones calling others incels again?

> Just have insurance for when you lose everything in a flood!
As mentioned elsewhere (too lazy to quote because I'm phone posting), these people have never dealt with insurance before. It's not like an Amazon return where you're instantly refunded and provided a free shipping label with no questions asked. It's an expensive and drawn out process where you only net a fraction of what you lost.

That's just "stuff", what about family photos or other irreplaceable/sentimental items? How many dollars worth of Funko Pops is that worth? Since armchair trainnies are so dismissive of the natural desire to not leave your life behind with only your clothes on your back, I imagine their response would be some saccharine platitude about how "you still have the memories even if the photos are gone".

> Anything better than living in a 19th century slum is a luxury
This is another one of those fallacious relativistic arguments warmunists use to gaslight the Western world into believing that anything more than the "global average" (skewed by 2 billion Indians and Africans who sleep on dirt floors with no electricity or plumbing) is considered "luxury".

 

[quaawaa]

Musk just announced a self-driving bus:

I suspect this will be used in the Vegas Loop tunnels, turning them into mass transit.

Will urbanists love him now or is he forever tainted because he supports Trump?

 

[Meriasek]

Musk just announced a self-driving bus:
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I suspect this will be used in the Vegas Loop tunnels, turning them into mass transit.

Will urbanists love him now or is he forever tainted because he supports Trump?

It doesn't have rails and it's made by Musk, so the seething will be nigh thermonuclear.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Long waits and required reservations are an everyday thing for popular restaurants in dense cities, as shown by the media constantly whining about not being able to get reservations:

Even theme parks (that urbanists unironically claim to be great walkable American cities) have long wait times for their rides. Almost like congestion and waiting in line is a fact of life when you have a lot of people in one spot rather than some mystical property that cars have but buses and trains somehow don't.

 

[pellegrino31415]

Urbanists will make fun of long lines in the suburbs when a new restaurant opens:

but that's a one time thing.

Usually when an In-n-Out drive thru is 8 hours long the wait to get inside the actual building is just as long. And when an In-n-Out opens in a new area it stays like that for a month or so then settles down for a 2 hour wait and after about a year you have "normal" service.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

Yep. Generally the restaurants they go to are two or three storefronts turned into one big space, or in a hotel or their own building.

In suburban areas (or really, anywhere but the downtown areas), stand-alone restaurants (or otherwise purpose-built) tend to be the most common. Hotel dining is less common as many of the suburban hotels lack restaurants (and the urban ones have paid parking) and tend to have a bad reputation.

Those articles get bewildered comments from suburbanites because reservations-required restaurants are incredibly rare in the suburbs because there is so much more capacity.

There were several articles about NYC enforcing time limits for diners (I believe it was mentioned earlier ITT), which is counter-intuitive since the idea of a good restaurant is to stay and linger (and restaurants certainly don't mind if they can keep the wine pouring) with the "people enjoying coffee" meme circulating on urbanist circles.

NYC restaurants (can also apply to restaurants in older downtown areas) tend to have tables packed closer together (which increases noise levels), deal with antiquated drainage/trash issues (and are hideously expensive to fix), no ADA compliance (sometimes things are up or down a single staircase with no elevator or ramps), and so forth. The reason why there tends to be less chain restaurants in New York City is not because they have better food, but that the chain restaurants had to completely rethink their model and how to operate there.

When I was in New York c. 2007 (probably one of the city's best years) I remember eating out at a few places but everything seemed so cramped, even some of the "larger" places. None of that ever happened at any of the restaurants that were in the rotation back home, and because of the homeless situation, many of the fast food-type places did not have public restrooms (I've only seen that outside of the urban areas once, in one of Houston's shittier neighborhoods—coincidentally, not far from the rail terminus).

Overall, urban restaurants are not just antagonistic if you wanted to drive there, it's antagonistic to large groups, antagonistic to those that want to linger, and antagonistic to children and families. Urbanists don't really have an answer to that beyond a few stock photos of small children riding in a cargo bicycle.

 

[BulkForceFive]

Twitter urbanists are upset that some people don't use the subway.View attachment 6506537

I will actually agree with this dork's general complaint, but not for the reason he thinks. If more rich people (the 'certain class' he's talking about) were forced to walk/bike/take public transit they might not support and vote for soft-headed policies that let scumbags walk freely on the streets. Of course that Escalade could just as easily be carrying a foreign diplomat or celebrity who has no say in how NYC is run, and I'm not so cold-hearted to insist they ruin their fancy gala clothes walking to the event.